The Best EV's for a HOT Climate

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  • Опубліковано 25 січ 2025

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  • @maltiveru
    @maltiveru Рік тому +2

    In Malta with summers reaching 38-43 degrees Celsius (excluding heat waves) I noticed that nissan leafs lost 6-8 bars in 5 to 7 years. I noticed this in leafs for sale with some of them jdm imports. So heat is indeed a problem.

  • @franklong6269
    @franklong6269 8 місяців тому +1

    I just bought a Tesla 2022 RWD Model 3 with 77,000 miles on it. I live in Arizona, and during the winter, it gets somewhere between 225 miles to 260 miles, which is most of its projected range because it has 19-inch wheels. With 18-inch wheels, it's supposed to get 272 miles of range. With 19-inch wheels, that range should drop at least 5% to 258 miles. Note that I would have to drive like my Grandma to get 250 miles or range - so keep that in mind. My Model 3 charges to 254 miles of range at 100%. It will get most of that range if I drive it reasonably and the weather is below 85 degrees F. When the temperature rises to 85 -100 degrees F, the range will drop from 30% - 50% because the car uses a ton of energy to run the heat pump to cool the battery system. So, heat does drastically affect the range of the vehicle during the day. At night, when it cools off, right now, I get about 3.5 - 4 miles per KW, which is around 225 - 250 miles per charge, which is really good. But the heat just kills my range.
    Since it only costs me about $9.50 to charge from 0 to 100% or about $6.60 to charge from 30 to 100% using my level 2 home charger, the loss of range is not a huge deal to me because I don't drive 150 miles a day in 100-degree weather. My Tacoma 4-wheel drive would cost about $50.00 to drive 150 miles. So it costs five times more to drive in the summer and about eight times more to drive in the winter.
    Since you live in Australia, you should take this range loss caused by heat into account before you buy any electric vehicle (EV). ALL EVs will lose range in hot climates. The good thing about Tesla vehicles is that their heat pumps DO work in very hot climates and they cool the batteries to increase their longevity and endurance over several years. I am not sure whether other EV manufacturers offer similar cooling systems for hot climates. I would MUCH rather lose 30 to 50% of my range and protect the life of the battery than allow the battery to overheat to keep my range in hot weather. It is an intelligent trade worth making and Tesla got this right.

  • @haydenwhite2413
    @haydenwhite2413 Рік тому +1

    I keep reading that one shouldn't DCFC in hot weather, but what about level 2? Is charging at 7 kwh in 30-35 C heat still detrimental? Or can recent cooling manage that? I have yet to find any data.
    For clarity, I have a Ford Lightning, which I understand has lithium-ion with active cooling, and I live in Mississippi (not far from Texas).

    • @TheChargeShow
      @TheChargeShow  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Hayden, good question. So, the battery cells themselves won't suffer at all from the DCFC. Or from any charging at all really. Electronics hate heat. So thinking about working your way down the the weakest link in the system - the cells in the battery are fine. But the chip boards and the AC compressor will likely be working hard. But I probably wouldn't worry about them failing in 30-35c heat.
      But for things like ebikes and scooters, I would always try to not ride in the heat, and if I did, I'd be very gentle.
      I've repaired heaps of electrical items. Such as scooters and bikes that have overheated.
      But of course, it's a Ford, so it's well made, and the main issue is the battery chemistry, which is fine because of the cooling. So the only concern is where the electronics are located that manage the charging etc. Most likely they will never fail, and they probably have cooling fans on them too.
      A fan is the simplest thing to do to get rid of heat on any electronic device. So at the very least, you can get closer to ambient.
      Personally, I would always preference charging slowly, such as with a 7kW charger, rather than rapid charging, if I wanted to charge on a hot day.
      But, I would be quite fine to charge it out on a public charger on a hot day too. But then my concern would be, are my wires getting hot inside the charger at my house, and how are the chip boards doing in there. Maybe just installing a small fan will help your charger last for years in your warm climate.
      It probably will be fine as it is though, but if it breaks, it's expensive.
      Hope that's not too long for a reply :)
      Awesome truck you have too.
      Maybe just google what the charging infrastructure looks like inside the truck, and where it's located, and see how it stays cool. That's probably my first thing to do.

  • @wolfsgravestone3968
    @wolfsgravestone3968 Місяць тому

    Is owning an electric car in a country where the temperature goes up to 50 degrees Celsius, and no indoor parking not recommended?

    • @TheChargeShow
      @TheChargeShow  Місяць тому +1

      Hi there, yes you can, but it is very very important to make sure that the car you buy is fairly modern. Most of them after 2014 come with full battery cooling using Air Conditioning. Tesla's are perfectly fine, almost all modern ev's are good at cooling their batteries. But 1 or 2 do not come with good battery cooling.
      You are welcome to ask me which one you want to buy and I'll let you know. Heat destroys battery chemistry and the range drops very very fast, so within 5-7 years, you may see the car with only half the range. It can get that bad, for example with the Nissan Leaf. Heat has destroyed the batteries in hot countries on them. Most modern ones and tesla's are fine. Even in the very hot climates, they are safe, and the car is able to keep the battery at a healthy temperature to stop the heat damaging the battery. Hope this helps mate :)

  • @karl7796
    @karl7796 2 роки тому +1

    How many cycles can you get from an LFP cell? Do they lose capacity over time?

    • @TheChargeShow
      @TheChargeShow  2 роки тому

      It's about the same really. Which is great. I'll be doing a video on the new Sodium ion batteries coming out this year too. SO many years with not much change, and now things are moving. It's great :)

    • @karl7796
      @karl7796 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheChargeShow EV's are a great idea, but imagine if most folk that have bought an EV come home at night and plug into charge the EV, the network would not be able to carry the demand. The network is set to deliver a certain voltage level at a set demand. Already the demand is high at night and supply authorities try to limit demand by using off peak. With governments reducing their reliance on coal, nuclear and relying on wind and solar the situation could become drastic as wind and solar are not constant, plus you have to factor in peak summer and winter loading on networks and charging your EV which may draw between 10 to 15 amps from domestic supply could cause supply problems.

    • @TheChargeShow
      @TheChargeShow  2 роки тому +1

      @@karl7796 Yes this is a small concern, it's very well documented that oil refineries use huge amount of electricity that is taken from the grid, to produce the petrol that we buy. In the UK for example, we know that the petrol is refined in the UK, and so this discussion has actually led the UK National Grid to actually put together a document to show people who believe that the grid wouldn't cope, actually it will cope, because in reality, the demand from the grid will be not going to oil refineries, but rather directly into your cars. If you have a google, you can find this document. Roughly - the amount of electricity that is used to refine 1 litre of petrol, is enough to drive a Nissan Leaf electric car 80 miles. That's a lot. So the issue in places like the UK, is actually making the adjustment in timing. According to the national grid themselves, no adjustments is actually needed to the suppliers nor the grid itself. It's not the same argument in places such as Australia where they don't refine the oil into petrol or diesel. But one thing is certain, we want the demand for EV's to be there, because at the most stripped back level, this alters people mindset, which leads straight into a greener future, a more sustainable future.

    • @karl7796
      @karl7796 2 роки тому

      @@TheChargeShow My concern with this is that the push to remove gas appliances and replace with electrical appliances will further add to the strain on a network already struggling. So when you have more reliance on wind and solar and they due to weather conditions cannot meet the demand you need to install huge battery banks to maintain your electrical system. These huge battery farms will need huge amounts of minerals to make a cell, those cells have a limited life cycle and are not environmental friendly to make or dispose off. So one side you reduce your Co2, but you are replacing them with chemical hazards and of course you need energy to produce them anyway. Some where some place somebody has to produce Co2 to make product, so what happens countries such as China, India etc where the environmental regulations are not so strict become the producers of products. Western countries are just shifting their outputs somewhere else around the world and give the illusion they they are "green".

  • @mohamedkasemali1500
    @mohamedkasemali1500 Рік тому +1

    Is the bmw i4 good for hot climate?

    • @TheChargeShow
      @TheChargeShow  Рік тому

      I'll get back to you on this :) I'm not sure.

  • @LarryNgetich
    @LarryNgetich Рік тому +1

    I am very interested in one of these. I live in Kenya and hybrids struggle badly thanks to the weather and terrain. It has been a dream to see electric vehicles that could be a good fit for our conditions.

    • @TheChargeShow
      @TheChargeShow  Рік тому +1

      Hi mate, that's great. I can imagine how hot it get's there in Kenya. Most cars these days that are electric will be fine for hot climates. But sadly not the Nissan Leaf.

    • @LarryNgetich
      @LarryNgetich Рік тому

      @@TheChargeShow Yes, very hot. The Nissan Leaf is actually doing well in the cooler parts of Nairobi, there are quite a number of grey market imports running around. However, for long distance driving, there's just no way they can make it.
      I think the EV manufacturers that will dominate Africa are Rivian, Volkswagen and BYD. They seem pretty well put together, and BYD already has a presence here through their buses.