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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2021
- How to deal with a missing administrator account when trying to diagnose and repair windows 10 pro startup / boot loop. Also explaining issues with an HP Designjet 500 not printing in windows 10 after updates.
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The blame is the BAD HP printer driver, not the Windows updates. If the HP DRIVER was written according to the advisement Microsoft voluntarily provides to developers, Windows updates would apply without issue. HP stands for Horrible Products. Love your videos! Great to see new content from you!
I'm sure you're already aware of this so this is more for other people... A good rule of thumb when encountering a BSOD is to first update drivers, and whatever you're doing at the time of the blue screen occurrence can be a good indicator of what to update (along with the specific stop code). The only exception might be if a failing harddrive is the suspected culprit, in which case data recovery should probably take priority.
Normally I agree with you. However a February 2021 and then a March update made it worse caused blue screens on a bunch of printers Sharp/Kyocera/HP and Certain Brother Models. Unfortunately our biggest client has Sharp and Kyocera printers. In general printers suck. They did re-release the March CU update on the 3/21 and rolled that into the April update.
@@JonathanGray89 What I think happened is MS tried to convert the Spooler to a Windows Store type APP. Like Calculator before it was converted to Windows Store App it was an easy way to bypass security as it had access to both System Reserved Memory and CPU at the same time. The problem is HP , Some Brothers, Sharp, and Kyocera do not write push to print drivers. Ever had issues with a printer working over Citrix/RDP it is because it is not a push to print driver. To make thing more confusing the abbreviation for Push to Print is PNP.
@@thepoliticalstartrek Yep. My workplace just went through that and I was rolling back dozens of computers because we use Kyocera and Ricoh printers. We tried enabling "direct printing" as one of our guys thought that to fix the issue, but it didn't for us. I think it was the KB ending in 0802. A couple weeks later, MS released 1567 as an OPTIONAL update which really made me angry as it meant I had to manually install it on every single computer, and I had to pull the update from the catalog as the majority of them didn't even show the update was available. Luckily in April, the important update that ends in 1330 appears to have resolved the issue. It was a nightmare to say the least.
@@MaxDad7 Yeah might have another one in the works. All my Dell systems with 10 started getting printer driver errors on the HPs and the Print to PDF. You can't even re-install Print to PDF when this happens. However, you can re-install the HP drivers.
Holy crap. I used that exact printer forever. HP Designjet 500 with a 24" Roll. I'm in "construction design" and have been in this since the early 90s. We used to have pen plotters that would literally draw the lines and the paper would go back and forth back and forth back and forth- quite hypnotic to watch. Some honest advice for your client- that carriage and cable will eventually wear out. When it does, it's not worth fixing when you can get a faster/more compact/quieter/way more modern os compatible/cheaper to operate Epson T3170 (24" roll color printer) for a grand now (Or something similar- the fact that the 500 has lasted this long suggests very light but regular use so he doesn't need a heavy commercial grade large format printer). *Honestly, I would recommend doing that while the Designjet 500 still works and can be sold/mothballed as a backup* (make sure to remove all ink and clean before though- already went through that problem with an improperly mothballed Designjet 1050 I had to use after the 500 was worn out- lots of cotton balls and rubbing alcohol later...). That way you can just let Windows update. Oh, and F that other guy for a 100% markup on a prebuilt gaming PC from Best Buy. Jeezers.
OMG he takes FOREVER TO GET TO THE POINT.
Good to see you back Timmy Joe!
This guy should have at least 900k subs. Just found this channel and without a doubt Timmy joe is my favorite tech guy on UA-cam now
A rested Timmy Joe is an awesome Timmy Joe
Your buddy Tyler is like the computer dealer for you 😂. Cool dude
Glad your back and hope you were able to enjoy some time away.
Great to have you back
Glad to see you back! Stay safe out there and keep up the great work!
Update service just gets re enabled by its self tried it many times, gotta use group policy to disable updates
Also make your connection metered and set to not update while on a metered connection. 😁
Another reason i love Linux. Most distro i worked with, when you install, if you don't put an admin password it will put the main account as admin. No worries.
love the videos man, best tech on youtube by far!
some things on windows just make me wonder how it became so standard. Also looking forward to some more vids
Thanks. I'm doing a backup image on my new PC right now. Obviously something I should have done weeks ago.
This was great content!!!! I recently went through the same issue, only I had to remove the graphics card (assumed culprit as far as drivers) and reloaded fresh copy of Windows 10. Thanks!!!
Now that was useful advice. I've had a couple of exactly these issues recently.
Me too
Did it work?
For your clients that work with older equipment and they don’t like change. Take a look at windows 10 LTSC builds. 10years if support and only security updates.
I actually encountered this issue at my place of employment a couple of months ago. I figured out which update was causing the issue, but Windows wouldn't let me uninstall it (of course). Since the affected PCs had very little on them and we couldn't wait for a fix, I just reformatted them and reinstalled the printers and that got around the issue. Microsoft has since patched the update (and then had to patch the patch lol).
Windows updates are the bane of my existence.
Thank you... even thought you solution did not work exactly as planned, it did put me on the right track.
There was a March security update they broke printing, been dealing with this shit at work for like 3 weeks.
TJ you a hustler. keepin it real.
I just changed a customer's laptop from a HDD to SSD. I do a fresh install vs moving everything over as it runs cleaner. Got all the keys for the software before the move. That went over fine. Customer uses Sticky Notes and wanted them moved over without having a backup. Did a backup anyways just to be safe. While making it into notepad for ease of use I noticed that a lot of them were the same. There was a bunch open on the desktop when I first booted. I asked her and she thought that when you closed them they were gone forever. 🤦🏻♂️
She was happy to learn that they didn't disappear. Then asked me to get rid of the duplicates for her. There were countless notes. That took a few hours to sift through.
there is a microsoft tool to disable some selected windows updates i think, by "hiding" them
You can also defer the updates for up to 6 months(from what I remember). This gives your PC time before a bug is found and they "unlist"(the KB is kept but disabled) the update.
It's then subsequently patched/fixed and given a new KB article+update.
the kb5001330 update has caused me stutter/frame drops in games/while streaming
it also caused my friends computer to blue screen randomly
it also caused anther friends screens to not work (meaning instead 3 screens he could only use 1 via the hdmi and his valve index via display port)
What I think happened is MS tried to convert the Spooler to a Windows Store type APP. Like Calculator before it was converted to Windows Store App it was an easy way to bypass security as it had access to both System Reserved Memory and CPU at the same time. The problem is HP , Some Brothers, Sharp, and Kyocera do not write push to print drivers. Ever had issues with a printer working over Citrix/RDP it is because it is not a push to print driver. I found that most of the ones that blue screened where ones we had issues getting to work over Citrix. To make things more confusing the abbreviation for Push to Print is PNP. Only way I found to recover and older HP with that issue was to go into Safe Mode and manually remove all the installed INFs for that printer. Luckily for me I use to modify INF files to spoof 66 lines in a 60 lines required environment.
Finally some tech advice that actually works 🤞🤘 keep up the good work .
Thank you.. with every random problem I get with Windows (this time, it seems as though an update caused the problem since I haven't installed any software for a few months), I feel like leaving the OS for good. Will give this method a try.
Ive never used it but couldn't you open the bios using the f key startup options windows has? they are nearly as painful to get into but idk
I have the same problem but it was after I reset my pc, it wont let me use a mouse or keyboard when selecting region so I had to go into recovery mode which does let me use my mouse and keyboard and it asks for admin account even tho it doesnt have any accounts, will this still work since i dont have any accounts?
Alright, this is very helpful. Thanks sir!
I usually go and clean through diskpart on old hard drives.. cuz I run into at times that windows claims it cant be installed on the hard drive under install
You can opt out of immediate updates by using the "metered connection" setting.
You can make backups with just windows tools, you can even browse the WIM image with 7-zip and also extract individual files from it. You can restore using a Windows 10 setup USB using the SHIFT+F10 console. Go to google and google github dismbackup. It's the one from me.
Btw,some updates make all files and folders read only,and it's a LONG WAY to make them the usually way around....
I know that after two to three years of constantly upgrading Windows 10 it tends to get a bit unstable. Just waiting for the Sun Valley update later this year before a fresh install. If you are using Linux Mint, do a fresh install when upgrading to the next major version. And, yes, if it's important, back it up 😎!
love your vids all the way from the uk take care and stay safe :)
@Timmy Joe PC Tech
Did you already make yours video making PC backup yet?
Ugh I have the same administrator issue, what commands do I need to put in the command prompt to get my gaming pc to work again!
living in ontario has been a nightmare. 6+ months of lockdown in toronto.
it's not jimmy rigging it's timmy rigging glad to see your back
Nice nod to AVE on the departure :)
Question. Can you make a print server that runs a legacy operating system and print over a closed network? Maybe a little Nuc running windows 7 or something? Unless his print software requires direct access to the printer, just use a print server.
Nice AvE ref at the end.
That plotter is a real skookum choocher, till she aint, then you got put them angry pixies back in to get 'er working again!
Great video. I like your style 👍
@Timmy Joe PC Tech How about making printing server using virtual machine? You need updates to be enabled to stay secure or you could end up having ransomware attack.
Thanks dude I've dealt with this before and just reinstalled windows
Just install the April CU update. They had a known issue with both the Feb CU and the March CU. In fact they re-released the March CU with the fix on the 3/21.
I have a crazy hp to i wil save this vídeo just in case. Thanks man.
"your i5 won't run windows..." B.S. you can still run Win10 on much older machines, like aa Core Duo.
My friend has a similar problem but his included an old slide scanner as well as the printer. Used a VM with XP. Copy files over from shared folder for printing, sorted. Did it on his Mac as well , using Parallels, as Apple is a PITA with updates. VM's are real Skookum
Would windows 10 LTSC be better for the plotter? Has less frequent updates.
It seems like LTSC would just be better in general because the way I see it described is that it gets ONLY security updates and not feature updates. Getting a legit license key for it is expensive but doable. I don't really know how true the hype for LTSC is, though.
I ran into something similar when my windows would not let me even boot into safe mode. Never gave me the option in any of the rescue steps. Very problematic. I have a B550 and moved my Rx 570 gpu from the primary x16 slot to the secondary x16 slot (which runs at x4) and the AMD driver would load and then continuously loop for some reason and crash my computer. The system crashed before i could even do anything in windows. Pretty crazy problem. Doesn't matter if there are one or two gpus in the system, if i try to use that secondary gpu as the primary monitor, windows crashes. The basic microsoft video driver works just fine. I don't do much gaming on it so i have some time to find a solution.
Windows sticky keys hack is also another way to get a system CMD prompt, you need to boot into WinPE like you did though.
Gotta love when updates break stuff... Windows loves to hose USB to serial drivers on updates. Microsoft updates the driver to a newer driver that doesnt work and you have to roll back the driver. Thanks for a great arse saving video!
I got into the command prompt using USB and typed the administrator account line as you did. But it didn't work. What did you do after your video at 8.38? How did you exit the command prompt screen in a way that then gave you the admin access you needed?
Did you fix it yet?
@@fightfannerd2078 Unfortunately not. I gave up in the end :(
I had that HP PC... Returned it because the air flow is horrible in the one I received because they installed a 360mm AIO fan over the top vent. There is no front vent in the case... The only open vent was a 4x4 inch vent on the bottom of the case. It would hit 90° or higher within 20 minutes of gaming.
What can sometimes confuse Windows if you have multiple boot drive options and have upgraded your PC with other SSDs/ NVMes/HDDs from other PCs which still have Windows on them. Windows gets confused during updates...
i had this same issue at work twice. first time it took a week for them to fix. second time about an hour?? . but i still need to install the update.
so i will wait till the last min. to install
8:32 I typed that command and it showed it completed successfully. But the issue is still not solved 😢
Yep the pdf printing blue screen affected a handful of PC's at my office too. Windows 10 updates are such a pain.
What about disabling the windows update service in services.msc?
Why I have a SSD with my main pc OS backed up and disconnected from the PC as a JIC drive so if get a virus or what ever it is safe.
I back up every week. Kinda' paranoid about it, but I lost crucial data... once. Won't let it happen again. A program I highly suggest is SyncBack. You can get it for free and set it up on a schedule. I just turn on my backup drives before I go to bed, and turn them off when I get up in the morning.
you can set windows update to notify for download and install in regedit
you can block driver updates with the windows driver blocking tool
Hi Timmy Joe. I hear that you are an AVE fan. The man is a wordsmith.
Love the ave reference
might want to put a cut down version of Windows 10, Titus or Tech Yes have those versions available, you could down the size and have windows update turned off by default
when i try to open command prompt or other advance option it show you need to sign in as an administratior to continue but there aren't any administratior account on this pc
I ran into this same fucking problem not long ago, had to do a new OS install. Didn't lose anything important but a huge waste of time and still don't know how it happened. GG timmy
I miss your content. I hope you're doing well.
Every video I see on restart a pc they have like 6 options in the advanced options meanwhile I only have 2 options
The BSOD from printing was a wide spread issue but has been fixed
Fixed, for how long? We're talking Windows here.
@@ibizenco lol
2 Annoying things about windows 10 in situations like this.
1)The F8 option to boot into safe mode, last know good config... Etc is disabled by default and the only way to get to these options are to allow the PC to fail booting multiple times witch probably isn't good if windows is already borked. You can enable the F8 button option at boot and it really should be the other way around you need to disable it.
2) in previous versions of windows when you booted into safe mode it listed on screen what windows was atteming to load and could show you where it got stuck rather then getting a blue screen with a generic message or just a small clicle loading icon that never loads. Multiple times with win 7 desktops that failed to boot I was able to fix by looking at where it got stuck bitting into safe mode. With windows 10 I have had very little luck and have just reloaded the system cleanly.
Can you teach about how to get into safe mode?
Time to install Linux OS or Unix OS sounds like an easier way to go with this but that's my thought on it. At less with those OSes you update what you want and when you want.
I was thinking the same thing. If the programs or equivalents were available. The amount of time it would take to change ones workflow, would be less painful in the long run than having to keep dealing with windows and it's nonsense. Especially with aging hardware. It is one of the reasons I ditched windows after a year of hell. About a year and a half ago.
Linux isn't perfect (I use mint), though it is getting better, but after all the issues with windows, it got to the tipping point that I had less issues with linux. Steep learning curve. But worth it. And I'm not a tech wizard. But at the same time I'm not clueless either.
I have no other pc what am i supposted to do, is there a way to go without losing my files and reinstalling windows
How do you do this if you can’t get into your computer as it keeps restarting
I had a windows 10 update completely corrupt the windows 10 files on my hard drive right after an update install before shut down. Next day all I got was a blue screen, lost all files on my hard drive. To add insult to injury I couldn’t even do a fresh install of windows 10 because what ever happen also bricked my hard drive making it useless. If there is a way to permanently turn off updates in the config file I’d like to know, ever since my debacle my main rig is not attached to the internet.
I'm with you brother. I live in Kingston... This is all horse shit.
Glad to see you back
Nice video.
oh look, jimmy toe BREAKS ANOTHER PC.............
My laptop was at 62% of a factory reset and was unplugged and lost power now i can't get it to work please help
The PRE-BUILT Software IS THE ADMIN> !
I went through this same thing with Windows about 2 weeks ago after a storm killed power to our place and my ups wasn’t plugged in yet (just received it earlier that day). I thought it fried my components so I used it as an excuse to rebuild the whole damn thing and then began the repair process. It didn’t take so I had to reset Windows and start over 🙄 I was pissed but at least it works now lol
Hi! I’ve recently just had this issue occur and I’ve tried to do the net user administrator /active:yes prompt, and it says it worked successfully, but when I go back to the native recovery environment, it still doesn’t show up?
I know this video is 2-3 yrs old, but I’ve been desperately trying to fix this problem for the last two years and am looking for help anywhere I can
Any solution?
@@PedroHeund full fresh clean reset
Strange story. On Linux I can just reboot into the BIOS by giving a simple command (in my case systemctl reboot --firmware), probably on Windows that is possible too but who knows with proprietary BIOS's. On Linux that printer would probably work fine, HP is well supported on Linux. Brother too. However, his CAD-program might not support Linux...
You hold SHIFT when you tell Windows to reboot and there should be an option to boot in UEFI firmware that comes up (as well as other options, like safe mode, etc)
@@TheSamMaster That is how long I haven't used Windows anymore. I had read it before though.
You can't disable Windows updates but you could hold off Windows updates until they threaten to in support and then you can go in and break the windows update with admin rights and then boom. My friends still running One of the earlier versions of Windows 10.
Macrium: good. Veeam Endpoint Backup: Better
DJ500: Use driver version 5.10, not the newer 5.32. HP doesn't like supporting old plotters on new operating systems. That's the most stable driver I've found.
question for you twice on diff boards switched vid slot and ethernet goes into a deep sleep never get back tried few ideas from google gotten nowhere and why does this happen
I want to see the video on how you messed up the fan.. i am about to try to replace just the fan itself, Because i broke a blade. Ans i wouldn't mind a chuckle.
happend to me to but i clicked that i dont see my account and windows took me to another page and i clicked the restart button. but every time i restart or boot my pc i come directly to the page and message ¨you need to sign in as an administrator to continue, but ther aren't any administrator accounts on this PC¨ can someone help me
Jimmy rig....you mean Timmy rig lol
to stop window from updating:....set to only dl updates on unmetered connections....then set uR connection as a metered connection
how do I make it work shift +f10 isn't working
new system took only 3 minutes from start to finish to upload windows - 3 minutes i was in the home page of windows - and downloads - such as 80 gig downloads are only taking about 15 minutes or so
Thats what happens with a gigabit connection
@@danielwanner281 what fiber ? i dont have no gig connection - and it would blow you away to find out just how low it is
@@jamesfox2857 Well, downloading 80GiB in 15mins like you described would be somewhere in the ballpark of 800MBit/s, so i just assumed a gigabit connection
@@danielwanner281 naaaa - NO where near it - way Under that - WAAAAYYY under
thats make sense
Your customer can set up a simple workstation PC ..windows7...no internet...just to run the plotter..cad files moved over by usb stick :)
download stopupdates10 from majorgeek, it will block updates for a while because windows finds a war to re enable them later down the line. I'm still on 1809 because of the update fiasco back then. Create a local administrative user, way less headache if something happens to your microsoft account.
I do it today.!