One of my boys called Giannis a taller Ben Simmons before that playoffs he went and won the title and Ben Simmons had the meltdown in Philly, we still roast him to this day about that take
Wrong I LOVE KD he's my 2nd favorite player ever but bird is better then or equal to magic so downing one downs the other I have bird as my 3rd best all time and i swear on my mom I like kd more I love kd birds just that man
Man, 2009 ball was cracked... -Bron MVP -Kobe FMVP -Wade scoring title -Dwight DPOY -Melo's best playoff run (WCF vs Kobe) -CP3's best season (only 08 is arguable) -All fresh off of winning a Gold Medal together
@@kingjaydex7464 he literally said all time and then he said “ even then” meaning that he isn’t better all time , literally going off what he said and how he made it sounds that’s all
@@kingjaydex7464 Sage immediately discredited Klay still, and at least insinuated that the gap between him and Ja isn’t that big in terms of All-time. But Ja hasn’t really done much compared to Klay. He may have a higher ceiling, but Klay’s still way better for now.
Worst take I ever heard one’s one of my friends from college ( Texas state) said kyrie game 7 shot is better than steph curry’s whole career and he but it on god 😂🤦🏾♂️
You forget there was a pandemic going on with a virus we had no idea about and there were riots breaking out all over the country. I had no interest in watching basketball, I cant even imagine playing.
@@Quazey8 They were quarantined to separate them from the virus. And they’re professional athletes, not a regular person that enjoys playing basketball at their local gym. There’s a difference
@@actioninmyphannypack wow did u just say they aren't regular ppl . Wtf dude. They aren't machines and there were dudes getting sick in the bubble and sitting out. Lol if u think ppl just cuz their on tv don't have emotions like regular ppl then thats a whole other debate. So if a camera followed u around tomorrow u don't get sick any more?
@@Quazey8 What I meant was that playing basketball is a way of life and takes up a huge chunk of their lives. It’s not something they do on the side like people with 9-5 jobs. I never said they are machines or aren’t humans. You intentionally misinterpreted what I said to try to make a point. Nice try tho
Jason Williams is definitely a King for life because the heat he throwing in the direction of Kobe is wild. I get it. It’s not fun when someone busts your ass to the point Shaq calls your team the Queens, but damn
Worst NBA take I ever heard: Its a tie. 1) Dads friend said McGrady was a thug and when pressed could not explain or defend why. Looking back as an adult I think blud was just racist. 2) Dad is the definition of a boomer with takes that put Mad Dog to shame but my favorite as a Suns fan... We once argued for 20 min because he felt Ayton should be moved to 4 so he could play with JaVale and "be like McHale and Parrish"
Man, I was arguing with my older coworker. Nigga tried to tell me that Jerry West was a better all time player than LeBron. His reasoning being Jerry West is the logo
Hell no, Duncan used to get raped in pick and rolls so u leaving that man on an island with peak KD I'm sorry hes getting wrecked, he couldn't handle nash so how the hell is he stopping kd
The worst take I ever heard was my homie saying that Kawhi Leonard is better than MICHAEL JEFFREY JORDAN. His reasoning was because Kawhi got a championship by himself on the Raptors……. YES THE RAPTORS ( Pascal, Danny Green, Kyle Lowery and VanVleet ??????) 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@yetundeadeyemi2436 stop being obtuse, just cuz he wasn't an allstar that specific year doesn't mean he wasn't still an allstar calibre player. That's like saying jokic without an Allstar this year when we know murray was playing damn near superstar level
For the last one gimme Solz’s team but with Bird instead of Kawhi. Elite two-way group with enough bucket-getters to compete offensively. Bird gives them the added playmaking, rebounding, and intangibles boost (positioning, leadership, communication, details) they need while imo not sacrificing as much as most thing defensively, especially with how strong the rest of the team is (and Bird was a good defender, especially in a team, those Celtics were the best defense of their era)
Nah, Klay the scariest when hot that man got the record for most 3's in a game AND LETS NOT FORGET HE SCORED 37 IN A SINGLE QUARTER OFF LIKE 5 DRIBBLES. That's the "hottest" nba game ever played he got it man.
I can’t say you got that dawg in you when you run to the greatest team of all time to win anything and refuse to not play with top 15 talent and sprint from every form of grind imaginable
Swear, I mean the kobe shit was wild but the rest of what j will said was pretty much true, larry bird is definitely top 10 all time hes definitely better than KD (in an all time discussion although there is definitely an arguement for in general especially relative to the era he played in) and most definitely he would COOK in todays nba. Esoecially if you allowed him to grow up as a player in todays league and be able to adjust his play style to be a better shooter and develop in a better way with the resources available nowadays. If you just transported him as he was back then directly into todays nba he may not do quite as well because of how his playstyle doesnt translate as well but he would definitely still be an extremely good player
@moneymoves263 Yeah, I agree to a certain extent, I more so meant the volume of three point shots he took and how efficiently he shot those shots due to being in a league that didn't value the three as much, Larry was a bit more focused on the post game than luka but their midrange and playmaking is very comparable in terms of the style and speed they play with. I also feel like bird is hugely undervalued all-time as a defensive player because he was white and didn't look very athletic but he was actually a great defensive player for a lot of his career as well
KD has more of that dog in him than Bird? Crazy!! Larry Bird played in a era where "that dog" had to be a part of your game to be successful in the league.
12:00 as a member of both there's a million anime but only 32 nba teams thousand college teams at most so i got alot to watch thats new and constantly coming out and lebron aint bustin a chainsaw out his head and slicing demons up
Call Sage sick all you want. But in 2014, Melo had better career shooting % against Lebron than Bron had against him. Especially on post ups where Melo had +10% on him. It was showed during a Heat game. Before injury he was one of the best at defending him AND scoring on him
Kawhi honestly wasn’t a terrible pick, also KD was wearing a suns jersey and bron was wearing a lakers jersey which leads me to believe bron isn’t in his prime in that picture
Worst take I ever heard actually came from my dad. He said KD shouldn’t have been top 75 but Tiny Archibald should have been. I love him but I had to roast him for a good 10 minutes.
I once heard that "Kevin Durant has more dawg In him than Larry Bird" i don't agree with that take as KD ran from the grind his entire career and Larry was drafted by the best team in the league so Larry is better easily 😂😂
Probably the worst I hear was that random Obesssed Lebron hater not ticket, who said lebron Aint even top 100 and give the most hater anylisis of lebron’s Game ever
once kobe retired the discourse around his all time ranking changed. there was a period where him being ranked top 3-5 was common and not considered weird at all. fast forward to today n everyone is so determined to not overrate him because of his death that if you got him higher than 7 you’re a delusional kobe d-rider n you don’t kno ball. fr it’s more common to see him ranked outside the top 10 than in the top 5 these days. it’s been interesting to see how the nba community’s overall view of kobe has changed over the years
Not only should the NBA bubble count, but it should be counted the most of any ring. Literally every team and every player had the same variables to deal with. It was about who wanted it the most and turns out the two teams that wanted it the most were the Lakers and Heat and to prove it wasn't some fluke this last playoffs had all 4 teams from the bubble returning to the conference finals.
Paul George finished top 3 in mvp and dpoy 2018, and would have multiple finals appearances if he didn’t have to go through the heat big 3. and everyone loves to use the playoff P nickname but melo is one of the biggest playoff chokers of all time 💀 career shot chucker and traffic cone
As a fan of both nba & anime. Anime nerds is more insane in terms of debates, its also hard to back up the your perspective with data coz its doesn't exist like on NBA. Other Sports are not as insane as NBA through the insanity of comparisons, Anime is more a wildfire creating more fire rather than killing it. Powerscaling in anime is clearly toxic though its interesting via some level of high debates using Science, making preferences in Anime is Indeed a nutshell. I'm not making a case for fandom to fandom? Its more rabid and toxic than NBA community.
Lmao that Luka Better trap card editing was s-tier 😂.
Faxxx
😂😂😂🤣
The “Luka Betta” trap card goes crazy😭😭
The worst take I’ve ever heard was someone try to say that Stephen Currys offence isn’t his defence.
It isnt...
Draymond is currys defense
@@butterflybasics1688must be new here cause we all know Steph Curry’s offense is his defense
@@yeeeer4905 cool but he average a triple double?
@@butterflybasics1688 How does that affect LeBron’s legacy tho ?
Wtf 😂
One of my boys called Giannis a taller Ben Simmons before that playoffs he went and won the title and Ben Simmons had the meltdown in Philly, we still roast him to this day about that take
What the he-
was he high that day?
@@KireaPhillips_superj0ka nope Just an idiotic take lol
lmao he’s the same height as well, maybe an inch taller
Larry has more heart and dawg in 1 mullet hair than kd has in his entire life
You’re right but glazing lowkey
W glaze
white person comment
Worst take I've heard in awhile is KD has more dog than Bird, hell 🤣
Maybe a literal dog tho?
@@dumbassdude8372yea, female dog 😂😂
Wrong I LOVE KD he's my 2nd favorite player ever but bird is better then or equal to magic so downing one downs the other I have bird as my 3rd best all time and i swear on my mom I like kd more I love kd birds just that man
Durant got that Teacup Chihuahua in him bruh
Social medid dog. 😂
Imagine still being a Durant glazer in 2023, this is crazy.
Idk wtf a glazer is bro
@@hoppy23glazer = knob polisher
Using glazer unironically you 12
@@Intr0verticalyou earned yoself a squalorship blood
@@Intr0vertical KD is that you 🤨?
Man, 2009 ball was cracked...
-Bron MVP
-Kobe FMVP
-Wade scoring title
-Dwight DPOY
-Melo's best playoff run (WCF vs Kobe)
-CP3's best season (only 08 is arguable)
-All fresh off of winning a Gold Medal together
Picking Klay is not a bad take, bro got 60 in 29 minutes on 11 dribbles coz he was mad they gave him smoke over being late for practice
He did that like 5 years ago at this point. You can’t use something from 5 years ago as a point for today
@@IKBanksI He said "in their prime"
And he’s had 2 season ending injuries since then what are we doing
@@lucidstudious750 no he did not. He said and I quote “not talking till I find a better player than Ja Morant”
@@IKBanksIim pretty sure the other guy was talking about the "who would you take when they're hot" question
worst take i have headr is when one of my lebronsexual friends said that the reason he lost in 2011 is because the mavs were a super team
They were bro , can’t nobody hang wit the talent of Brendan Haywood, J Terry and JJ. Three most underrated superstars on a super team ever!
bronsexual over here yeah that's dumb he chocked that's it
Now come on. Mavs team was good ong. They swept the defending champ KOBE B BRYANT. If you remember
@@domskiis111 jason terry yes he is underated, but who tf is brendan haywood and JJ bro like what?
they were good enough to sweep kobe and pau
Cannot believe they missed the total “ayo” moment when Arenas was talking about Klay😭
2:14
Worst nba take I’ve heard is that kd has more dog in him than bird
Sage calling Steph a runt is wild
People forget that Steph is 6'2" in real life. He'd be one of the tallest if not the tallest person in most rooms.
@@unc54I am 6'2 and can confirm. If someone is taller than they are REALLY tall
@@unc54then dame is 6'1 stop
Sage at 6:01 was just gold 😂😂
8:00 definitely the worst basketball take I’ve ever heard was when some dude tried to say KD had more dog in him than Larry Bird, shits unbelievable 😂
editing starting to get elite🙏🏾 can’t wait to see what y’all got cooking for the future tho, i peep what y’all been hyping up👀
Klay still scored 60 on 11 dribbles. He is without a doubt the most "dangerous" when hot. Bro basically touch passes the ball to the net.
Wait that was 37 point quater or 60 game ?? The 11 dribbles
The editing durin the Luka and Larry Bird part was great.
The editing is getting better and better, good shit guys
having ja morant better than klay all time is crazy, sage on some good shit 4:54
For real. Prime Klay was sometimes more deadly than Curry.
He said that the only argument for Klay would have to be all time
@@kingjaydex7464 he literally said all time and then he said “ even then” meaning that he isn’t better all time , literally going off what he said and how he made it sounds that’s all
@@kingjaydex7464 Sage immediately discredited Klay still, and at least insinuated that the gap between him and Ja isn’t that big in terms of All-time.
But Ja hasn’t really done much compared to Klay. He may have a higher ceiling, but Klay’s still way better for now.
Worst take I ever heard one’s one of my friends from college ( Texas state) said kyrie game 7 shot is better than steph curry’s whole career and he but it on god 😂🤦🏾♂️
I would hope my fellow Bobcats were smarter than that, man. Some people just can’t be helped.
In the bubble, every team had the same advantages. It was the most even playing field in NBA history
You forget there was a pandemic going on with a virus we had no idea about and there were riots breaking out all over the country. I had no interest in watching basketball, I cant even imagine playing.
@@Quazey8 They were quarantined to separate them from the virus. And they’re professional athletes, not a regular person that enjoys playing basketball at their local gym. There’s a difference
@@actioninmyphannypack wow did u just say they aren't regular ppl . Wtf dude. They aren't machines and there were dudes getting sick in the bubble and sitting out. Lol if u think ppl just cuz their on tv don't have emotions like regular ppl then thats a whole other debate. So if a camera followed u around tomorrow u don't get sick any more?
@@Quazey8 Way to misinterpret what I said.
@@Quazey8 What I meant was that playing basketball is a way of life and takes up a huge chunk of their lives. It’s not something they do on the side like people with 9-5 jobs. I never said they are machines or aren’t humans. You intentionally misinterpreted what I said to try to make a point. Nice try tho
Austin rivers praying at dame missing is actually hilarious 😭😭
Jason Williams is definitely a King for life because the heat he throwing in the direction of Kobe is wild. I get it. It’s not fun when someone busts your ass to the point Shaq calls your team the Queens, but damn
Worst NBA take I ever heard:
Its a tie.
1) Dads friend said McGrady was a thug and when pressed could not explain or defend why. Looking back as an adult I think blud was just racist.
2) Dad is the definition of a boomer with takes that put Mad Dog to shame but my favorite as a Suns fan... We once argued for 20 min because he felt Ayton should be moved to 4 so he could play with JaVale and "be like McHale and Parrish"
Sage slurping KD acting like he got more “dog” in him than Bird is hilarious
Kd gets his feelings hurt by randoms on Twitter. Larry Bird would never
That anime villain bit was GOLD😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
How did they put LeBron at the 2 when he's 6'8" and make him look shorter than 6'6" Jordan? Like what are you doing? Lol
Man, I was arguing with my older coworker. Nigga tried to tell me that Jerry West was a better all time player than LeBron. His reasoning being Jerry West is the logo
Duncan and Hakeem are locking up KD and Shaq
Hell no, Duncan used to get raped in pick and rolls so u leaving that man on an island with peak KD I'm sorry hes getting wrecked, he couldn't handle nash so how the hell is he stopping kd
stop it u wanna be different so bad
Sage picking Melo and CP3 on his team, but never considering Luka lol
Kudos for the Dame respect
Sage gotta be trolling talking bout KD gotta dog in him 😂😂😂
1:05 the pause from sage saying “ no “ and he’s “ one of them “ took me out
these edit getting somewhere next level. great vid.
@6:04 😭😭 sage going crazy
The worst take I ever heard was my homie saying that Kawhi Leonard is better than MICHAEL JEFFREY JORDAN. His reasoning was because Kawhi got a championship by himself on the Raptors……. YES THE RAPTORS ( Pascal, Danny Green, Kyle Lowery and VanVleet ??????) 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Against just Steph not even the full superteam. Bro is def meat riding
@@Rosinronin steph and Draymond... that's two allstars, and klay played four of those games, stop leaving that out
@@jonnstewart2023draymont wasn't an all star that year
@@jonnstewart2023by that logic Steph had to go up against 5 all stars on the team
@@yetundeadeyemi2436 stop being obtuse, just cuz he wasn't an allstar that specific year doesn't mean he wasn't still an allstar calibre player. That's like saying jokic without an Allstar this year when we know murray was playing damn near superstar level
Love y’all vids man
the trap card bit editor need a raise
For the last one gimme Solz’s team but with Bird instead of Kawhi. Elite two-way group with enough bucket-getters to compete offensively. Bird gives them the added playmaking, rebounding, and intangibles boost (positioning, leadership, communication, details) they need while imo not sacrificing as much as most thing defensively, especially with how strong the rest of the team is (and Bird was a good defender, especially in a team, those Celtics were the best defense of their era)
The absolute WORST TAKE I've ever seen was a dude saying Lebron isn't top 75💀💀
Yea that just hate
Fire up the reddit, ya been tuning in to the fiba team usa
Editor spazzed on this vid
Nah, Klay the scariest when hot that man got the record for most 3's in a game AND LETS NOT FORGET HE SCORED 37 IN A SINGLE QUARTER OFF LIKE 5 DRIBBLES. That's the "hottest" nba game ever played he got it man.
Sane person
Sage should take his own advice and get KD out his mouth 😂😂
Naw the trap card edit was CRAZY 😂
To say KD had more dog in him than Larry Bird is the single most criminal statement in the history of mankind
Sage is hilarious bro activated exodia 💀
I can’t say you got that dawg in you when you run to the greatest team of all time to win anything and refuse to not play with top 15 talent and sprint from every form of grind imaginable
My lineup would be Cp, Kobe, Ak47, Dream,Yao Ming not the greatest yet a interesting dynamic I would like to see
How is Bird not top 10 all time?
Swear, I mean the kobe shit was wild but the rest of what j will said was pretty much true, larry bird is definitely top 10 all time hes definitely better than KD (in an all time discussion although there is definitely an arguement for in general especially relative to the era he played in) and most definitely he would COOK in todays nba. Esoecially if you allowed him to grow up as a player in todays league and be able to adjust his play style to be a better shooter and develop in a better way with the resources available nowadays. If you just transported him as he was back then directly into todays nba he may not do quite as well because of how his playstyle doesnt translate as well but he would definitely still be an extremely good player
@@CelticIconhis playstyle definitely translates well. larry was literally just luka with back problems
@@moneymoves263bird and luka play nothing alike
@moneymoves263 Yeah, I agree to a certain extent, I more so meant the volume of three point shots he took and how efficiently he shot those shots due to being in a league that didn't value the three as much, Larry was a bit more focused on the post game than luka but their midrange and playmaking is very comparable in terms of the style and speed they play with. I also feel like bird is hugely undervalued all-time as a defensive player because he was white and didn't look very athletic but he was actually a great defensive player for a lot of his career as well
People who don’t know basketball only say he aint
I will never forget the 2019 WCF curry finished the half with 0 points, he finished the game with like 40 points.
I think it was Houston WCSF game 6...Curry had 0 and ended with 30
@@Bigedub101 your right he finished with 33
Prime Melo and that Knicks squad had the heats number they were owing that big 3
AD was injured before the bubble and got healthy when the bubble started😂
Clippers was hurt too and a few other teams had injures
11:48 that strong and strike naruto ost😭😭😭
Bubble is the greatest season of all time
KD has more of that dog in him than Bird? Crazy!! Larry Bird played in a era where "that dog" had to be a part of your game to be successful in the league.
Did anybody else think Sage sounded like Steven A when he was explaining the KD skill thing?
“Overration” is a funny ass word 😭
As a weeb and someone who has played sports my whole life, basketball nerds are wild fr lol
It’s crazy people get paid 10s of millions of dollars to play basketball and think it was “exhausting” to play basketball for 3 months of the year
u do it
HE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD!!!
The worlds most self proclaimed troll
Worse take ive heard is dwade is the most overrated player of all time
12:00 as a member of both there's a million anime but only 32 nba teams thousand college teams at most so i got alot to watch thats new and constantly coming out and lebron aint bustin a chainsaw out his head and slicing demons up
Sage trolling too much with that kd bird take
bro sage always there to get in his knees and slobber on luka’s thing and i’m 1 billion% loving him more for it
Durant isnt as offensively skilled as Jokic, not even close,
🤣 what’s wrong with your editor 🤣 he’s going crazy 🤣 trap card lmao 🤣
The 2020 bubble ring is the greatest ring of all time
The worst take I’ve heard was one kid in my class said Lebron wasn’t top 5 after he broke the record
Sage has definitely not seen a story of Bird, He's the biggest trash talker ever.
Based solely off of best players to wear a Laker Jersey
1. Lebron
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. Shaq
5. Wilt
6. Kobe
Isn't the craziest take to me.
Worst take I ever heard was that Curry isn't a top 5 PG because he's short and isn't a playmaker 💀
Call Sage sick all you want. But in 2014, Melo had better career shooting % against Lebron than Bron had against him. Especially on post ups where Melo had +10% on him. It was showed during a Heat game. Before injury he was one of the best at defending him AND scoring on him
0:29 had me crying 😂😂😂
Sage was tweaking 😂😂😂but I fw it
Kawhi honestly wasn’t a terrible pick, also KD was wearing a suns jersey and bron was wearing a lakers jersey which leads me to believe bron isn’t in his prime in that picture
sage: you fool !
Worst take I ever heard actually came from my dad. He said KD shouldn’t have been top 75 but Tiny Archibald should have been. I love him but I had to roast him for a good 10 minutes.
18:21 so we gon act like prime Lebron didn't say "fuck" when Kawhi checked in in da finals
I once heard that "Kevin Durant has more dawg In him than Larry Bird" i don't agree with that take as KD ran from the grind his entire career and Larry was drafted by the best team in the league so Larry is better easily 😂😂
The only team that truly had something that happered them was the raptors Pascal not playing aau made him booty cheeks in the. Bubble
Bro came in looking like bench mob Pascal with the confidence of kawhi Leonard 😂😂
If the dog is a scared little chihuahua, then yeah, KD has that dog in him.
I saw a thread about Larry Bird having a top 3 player of all time argument it was a horrendous read
A PlayStation friend of mine said “klay Thompson is a glorified mike milller” that’s the worst take I’ve ever heard
CP3 and Joel at their peaks would be wild, that pick and roll would go crazy.
Dream stray was out of pocket lmao
Probably the worst I hear was that random Obesssed Lebron hater not ticket, who said lebron Aint even top 100 and give the most hater anylisis of lebron’s Game ever
The worst take I prolly heard was that AD isn't a top 15 PF all time in his prime
Nobody that wasnt kobe fans had kobe top 3 or 5 before his death. If you look at all time lists from around 2017. Most people had him top 7-12
Yup to say that he's been underrated overall is crazy
once kobe retired the discourse around his all time ranking changed. there was a period where him being ranked top 3-5 was common and not considered weird at all. fast forward to today n everyone is so determined to not overrate him because of his death that if you got him higher than 7 you’re a delusional kobe d-rider n you don’t kno ball. fr it’s more common to see him ranked outside the top 10 than in the top 5 these days. it’s been interesting to see how the nba community’s overall view of kobe has changed over the years
I've had him at 1 consistently and have moved Jordan down to 3
@Gators54i’ve literally never saw someone have kobe outside the top 15
I never saw him in no top 5 before his death. Now people have him as 3rd behind Lebron. He's getting overrated now imo....
Sage's face when that dude brought up Dame had me rollin'
Not only should the NBA bubble count, but it should be counted the most of any ring. Literally every team and every player had the same variables to deal with. It was about who wanted it the most and turns out the two teams that wanted it the most were the Lakers and Heat and to prove it wasn't some fluke this last playoffs had all 4 teams from the bubble returning to the conference finals.
the worst takes of all time is time duncan not being top 5, and kobe not being at the very least top 7.
Tim Duncan top 5?????
@@GGGTREX he's the best power forward ever and won five championships i would say so
Paul George finished top 3 in mvp and dpoy 2018, and would have multiple finals appearances if he didn’t have to go through the heat big 3. and everyone loves to use the playoff P nickname but melo is one of the biggest playoff chokers of all time 💀 career shot chucker and traffic cone
Exactly
As a fan of both nba & anime. Anime nerds is more insane in terms of debates, its also hard to back up the your perspective with data coz its doesn't exist like on NBA. Other Sports are not as insane as NBA through the insanity of comparisons, Anime is more a wildfire creating more fire rather than killing it. Powerscaling in anime is clearly toxic though its interesting via some level of high debates using Science, making preferences in Anime is Indeed a nutshell. I'm not making a case for fandom to fandom? Its more rabid and toxic than NBA community.
nah you cooked. W
Bro put Melo on a prime bron, yeah GGs bud
😂
Standing 10 toes on Luka > Larry is NUTS
Worst take I’ve ever heard is one of my guys said Kobe isn’t a top 10 player & that people only say he is cause he’s dead 😐
You thought you had a trap card had me dying😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Worst take I've heard "LeBron James is a point guard"... On the basis that any player who is a facilitator is a point guard lmao 🤦