What happened to the NBA Finals? (Kofie)
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Its not the NBA Finals anymore, its “The NBA Finals presented by UA-cam TV” lol, also if NBC really is coming back please give them the Finals. No more ESPN its just nonstop cringe.
ESPN will still have the finals every year during the next contract
ABC has the finals every year. I agree they should alternate like the NFL does, but they won't. NBA is too risk averse.
@@deepvoicedude4749 The NBA could alternate every year since NBC is free over the air like ABC but ESPN gave up the Friday package I believe and paid more money to have the conference finals and finals every year. I just hope ESPN is listening to the backlash they got this postseason and make changes next year. Look at MNF it was Garbo for awhile then they got Joe Buck and Troy Aikmen and it’s been the best it has ever been in my lifetime (I’m 20)
Lol I'm sure they'll stop the program because you said
At least Mike Breen is a legend
Another thing about the presentation that you didn't touch on is that ESPN muted the crowd so much so it didn't sound like a playoff atmosphere. Watching the replay of the PP half-court buzzer beater is so different than watching a video from a phone inside the arena.
That's probably because of FCC rules and Celtics fans being so vulgar.
@@selanryn5849 snowflakes
@@selanryn5849 are you aware other networks also run celtics games and don't lower crowd noise? or that espn does this in every game for every team?
@@selanryn5849 What NBA fanbase isn't vulgar?!
@@selanryn5849the Northeast sports fan base are ALL vulgar. It comes with the territory
The ESPN on ABC production, presentation, and personalities have soured the NBA Finals for sure. Those halftime reports that feel like there is a bum rush to cram 5 talking heads into
TNT games feel 100 times more meaningful. Give them the finals
ESPN is just straight trash at this point
I agree espn halftime is the worst. Too many ads. Also TNT gives me actual player perspective from Chuck, kenny, and Shaq. I dont want to hear from Stephen A and Michael Wilbon
Jrue was that piece that made it stick, improving their defense. Derrick improved to great heights. KP made a great sacrifice. Boston could not miss this season
Derrick is such a solid glue guy, extremely underrated player. Wish we could have him on the Spurs again to pair up with Wemby, but I'm happy to see him ball out and get a ring.
NO TF HE WASN'T, THAT WHOLE TEAM WAS FAR TOO STACKED
@@ilackedtheheartTbh Derrick doesn’t become the shooter he is without Mazzulla. He helped him find his three point stroke in the summer of 2022.
Agree with the broadcasting issues. This just felt like another first round matchup. Like sure it's playoff basketball, but I didn't get the special feeling that one should get with a Finals. And it's not about the 4-1 outcome, because other 4-1 series have still felt important (even the 2017 Warriors vs Cavs). They need to get the custom courts back. Physically, not just a digital overlay.
As someone old enough to remember when the Lakers mopped the Nets in 2002 and thinking that was a really boring finals, I would say this one definitely wasn't great but it's not the worst finals I've ever seen. This Celtics team was just way too good this year and felt inevitable. Plus, everyone is right. There isn't much pageantry to the finals compared to the other major North American sports. The Stanley Cup has the fucking best trophy in sports, the Super Bowl is a capitalist hellhole while still being a love letter to football, and the World Series has tradition on its side.
All of this!
I literally was telling someone about that nets lakers series horrible
“Capitalist hellhole” incredibly accurate
People seem to need the finals to be close to consider them good. I think watching a great team be dominant can also be great. Behold the Juggernaut.
The 02 finals were bad do was 07 so was 2018 but this one is a stinker for sure...
I feel like the mavs being a popular pick for a lot of people was part wishcasting from celtics hate, and part perception due to a "weak" and admittedly injured east. But like, we saw this celtics team for 82 games and they were extremely dominant through that and the play-offs. I felt like I was going insane when I assumed going into the series that this would be the celtics in like 5 or 6.
Celtics did have a cake walk. The Lakers easily would have got to the ECF. That's how weak the East is right now There's no way the Celtics are repeating.
No way the Celtics repeat with this roster? I don't know about that@upfulsoul826
My thoughts exactly
@@upfulsoul826 With how stagnant and volatile the Lakers were all season, they would not have made it out of the second round.
@@upfulsoul826 You all really need to stop with the "east is too weak, that's why the Celtics look good" reasoning. It's silly, it didn't make much sense a month ago, it makes even less sense now.
This season, the Celtics have a 22-8 season record against Western teams, which extrapolated over 82 games would give them a 60-22 record (a far cry from the Lakers' 45-37, who don't even only play Western teams anyway, bad comparison really). That extrapolated Celtics record is not far off their true record of 64-18, in which they've mostly played against "weak" Eastern teams. And they have literally the 3rd best offensive rating in history, while being a very good defense. They didn't just dominate the East during the season, they dominated the whole league, so they fully deserve their place as number 1 in the East (and in the league) for the season.
Finishing first in the conference usually makes a PO run easier, and indeed they were not faced against that good of an opposition during their run, it's true, but it's not as if they struggled during that run and they're just not responsible for the opposition they face. Sometimes MJ's Bulls or KD and Steph's Warriors have had very easy PO runs, but nobody doubts the dominance of their team, it makes no sense to judge a team solely on the opposition it faces (not saying the Celtics are the same caliber of the teams I took as an example here obviously).
Anyway, the Celtics just won the Finals quite easily against the team that came out on top in the West, it's not like they got swept by the Mavs. It's time to stop with this silly reasoning now.
One of the worst finals. Maybe because I was a kid when I started watching, but the trophy logo on the middle of the court made it so much better.
The NBA did, in fact, play up the In-Season tournament more than the NBA Finals
I feel like Adam Silver or someone needs to step in with ESPN/ABC etc to talk about how piss poor their coverage has been in recent years
adam silver wont do anything like that, his side of the league is literally there to keep the owners happy and they make enough money to not care about the coverage, just as they dont care about player health, or fan service or community impact
It’s been bad
Not having the starting lineups takes away that chill inducing moment. Remember the Bulls (who I hated) the lights drop and that music starts "And now..... " and the crowd would go wild.
With streaming services, almost seems like the production staff just doesn't try to add those moments.
And where are the player stats during foul shots/time outs/dead ball moments?
Nuggets blew their load on the Lakers, Wolves blew their load on the Nuggets, Mavs blew their load on the Wolves. That's what made it disappointing me. Those three series the winners did not carry the same energy to the next round which is really frustrating more than anything.
This!
This is why the playoffs should just be one and done like the NCAA tournament. Teams are spent by the middle of May and half of the games end in blowouts anyway. A shortened regular season and sudden death playoff format is the only thing that will save the NBA from becoming the MLB.
Nasty but tru
@@SuperjuniiGetting rid of 7 game series is a very terrible idea lol
That's a lot of loads.
18:50 Me too i kept rolling my eyes seeing all these videos titled something like "Mavs just EXPOSED Celtics BIGGEST weakeness" after game 4 😂
That was a very nutty talking point. The team down 3-1 had momentum! Jesus Christ sports talk is stupid...
Dallas sports fans are not the most rational.
I’ll have to look for these? My joy at laughing at them will be unparalleled 😁
So, I make music and here is what I will tell you. For productions like this a simple beat made by one guy ain’t gonna cut it. Emulating human instruments and symphonies are simple not possible or lack that UMPF you were talking about. For companies like EPSN / ABC they used to hire actual symphonys to put something together. That is the ONLY way to make something so grandiose. Just like the Star Wars or Lord of the ring movie scores. They need to allocate more resources to that. Most of us cannot “see” music, but a lot of us can hear it. When you hear great music it creates an atmosphere that gives you goosebumps. Without it films and shows lack suspense.
As Regular Show put it "You can't touch music but music can touch you"
Modern music scoring seems to favor being silently heard in the background over memorable melodies that you will remember like the examples you give. I don't understand why it's the trend but it is. Also those terrible dissonant remixes of classic songs lol
NFL On Fox intro music has that Gladiator feel for sure.
Like, “it’s bout to go Down”
As a Celtics fan I agree with the bulk of this. Still happy and relieved to finally not blow it down the stretch, but the lack of pageantry was def felt. Not sure how much of that is no one felt it was worth it to get outta bed to cover a forgone conclusion.
Anyway, here's hoping they get Cade some help in the next couple months.
I've been feeling the same way about these finals and hadn't quite been able to put together why, but your analysis is spot on. The way they presented the "show," from the court logo, the intros, the music, the analysis, it just didn't feel like there was a sense of enormity or importance. It was just another game. ESPN (or someone else) needs to put in some serious work to reimagine their production.
ESPN is such a former shell of itself.
I used to respect their coverage. It’s so niche and ciche that’s in genuinely not authentic.
Their trying to be so damn hip and are falling short.
They’re also pandering to xenophobic and racist parts of their audience
@DunningKrugerJnr How?
From a production standpoint, espn has really butchered the finals since 2019
Idk why so many people thought dallas wouldve won. Its the same with last year with the heat. It was just kinda obvious who was always going to win
@@mezzb it's not even that. The only way I could see Dallas winning is if KP was unhealthy. Even then there defense just out right counters what Dallas wants to do. Which is lob and get corner 3s
It’s just wishful thinking. People say the team they want to win, not the clear favorite. Happened with nuggets lakers twice in a row
Luka is the best player in the NBA and I thought we would see 2016 Finals Kyrie is why I picked them that and I knew Tatum be out there throwing up bricks in the Finals
Because the Mavericks were a totally different team since the trades that by every metric put them up there with the Celtics, and they fucking manhandled THREE different 50+ win teams to get where they got when the West was clearly the better conference, and they have the practical MVP on their roster. Boston was better, yes, but nobody should be seen as nuts for believing in the Mavs up til this point.
@@michaelhaydenbell they beat the clippers who’s best player was injured, the youngest team in the league in the second round, and yeah the wolves were a good time. To pretend any of those teams are close to the Celtics is crazy.
People complaining about an easy playoff path for the Celtics confuse me. Isn't the point of getting the first seed that you get an easier playoff path? The Cs were hurt too, they were just a much better team than any other they faced
But they were hurt emotionally, from people endlessly clowning on them (until they won now lol) and for some reason that gets discounted time and time again when compared to a broken leg or whatever. But I can relate to the pain of being bullied by everyone. So, good for them.
The first seed in the West exited in the second round. It's not the same playing field.
@@myam754 The first seed in the west wasn't as good a team, simple. You can't say the Celtics weren't good because other teams played below expectations
@@axelolsson341 Of course the Celtics were good.
That's the point for the team and it's fanbase, yes, but the majority of fans are not Celtics fans. They are either fans of other teams or fans of basketball in general, those fans don't want to see teams waltz into a title. We want to see long, competitive series.
I do believe that part of what makes Michael Jordan's (and to an extent the 1990s NBA) legacy so beloved was how epic those playoff productions were during the excellent and unmatched NBA on NBC days. Seriously, look up those monologues all over UA-cam, its incredible how all these decades later the commentary, the introductions, the music, and the overall visuals just appear so much better than what we're seeing today.
On the topic of Jrue and D White offensive boards, it was also something we saw with the pacers. When the pacers were at their best it was in large part because their guards crashed the hell out of the offensive glass.
2:02 it’s a discussion because even if they had wiped the floor with their first three matchups, they’d have been more tired and possibly hurt if the opposing teams stars had played, luka and kyrie went against some of the most tiring players in the league on their run, and bostons worst opponent was donavan mitchell
nuggets dropping the ball in game 7 ruined the season
as a wolves fan that was the happiest i was all season
Maybe don't blow a 3 - 2 Series lead or blow a 20-point lead in Game 7.
@@2phonebabykeem913 honestly, if wolves hadn't fumbled against the Mavs and actually put up a fight in the series, i would've been happy too as a Nuggets fan. but Wolves getting 3-0'd just soured the fact for me that the Nuggets lost
The Spurs beating Denver late in the season created this
@@Law-of-EnTropy Denver would have lost to Dallas as well.
Didn't watch after the first game. Definitely one of the worst NBA Finals ever.
As a new fan in the middle of this season, the finals felt really fun to me. Very exciting and entertaining even though it wasn't very close
Most of my coworkers aren't super into basketball, casual watches at best, but during the first 2 rounds of the playoffs this year everybody was talking basketball all the time. Everybody was up to date on all the records and teams and injuries and everything. Sense round 2 finished I haven't heard almost anything unless I bring up a game or something related to it comes up naturally. Even my coworkers who were Mavs fans and my friend whos a Celtics fan have not been following it that closely and didn't really seem to care much when their team made it to the finals or even won. This is the exact opposite of what I normally see where people don't even know the playoffs are happening until like round 3 or maybe even not till the finals and then are following it really closely at the end. Again I don't have any friends who are super into ball like that, but even myself who does follow the game pretty closely just wasn't really able to feel excited or invested after the second round. I couldn't tell you exactly why, but its definitely a thing.
Adam Silver gotta hear this stuff abt the broadcast
He doesn't care, the NBA is going to triple their TV deals.
NBA finals viewership is still historically low.
@@dryames4319because we all watch it illegally 😂
Congratulating Boston fans is nasty work
0 pageantry, like I remember the Big Three Heat introductions in the Finals like it was yesterday. NBA sold out they should let moments like the Final breathe, not jam crazy UA-cam Ads down our throats
Ya everything is so rushed nowadays, always thinking of the next instead of the present.. its strang you can even hear it in the players.. they just won and all they can think about is, "ya were going to try and do it again next year"
Like we get christmas commercials and ads 1 day after halloween.. things are less present nowadays
The fact that the Bucks just gave away Jrue for a spiraling Dame and a bag of chips is true poetry.
Folks are all talking about Jrue, but I feel the Porzingis trade is somehow worse. The Celtics got Porzingis and TWO first-round picks for Marcus Smart, two expiring veteran role players, and an early 2nd round pick.
Without the fleecing done in this trade, the Celtics wouldn't have the ammo to trade for Jrue (one of those firsts went to Portland).
@@jack90054Brad was walking around with a ski mask and a gun all offseason and catching the other GMs in dark alleys. Danny taught him well.
well it wasnt a spiraling Dame, Dame averaged 30 that season he played amazing
Dame was coming off arguably the best season of his career but sure he was "spiraling"
I swear people just make shit up
Jrue is awesome. He's not better than Damian f**king Lillard though
He's also the same age and shot 40% and 30% from three in the playoffs for the Bucks. Meanwhile Dame this year averaged 31 on 64% TS without Giannis while being injured
But Jrue was so good as the _fifth_ option that he must be better I guess
@@holstorrsceadus1990 For real. Idk how he convinced Portland that was the most they could get for Jrue.
LA would have given them Reaves and every pick they own.
Speaking as a European Celtics fan, first of, waking up at 2 AM was such a pain but the win made it all worth it.
Secondly, I can't really speak about the presentation of the Finals on ESPN, but it felt in France that they did their best to make it feel as important as possible.
Thirdly, what's up with the Boston hate in the US? I don't get it
As someone from the UK I feel you, following the okc thunder every playoff game that ended at 4am felt huge.
Also boston hate is because of the sports fans and culture in the city. They're perceived as obnoxious. The city also has a history of racist. And segregation which rubs people the wrong way.
@@mxchael_0385I didn't think the hate applied to today's city. Though I assume the racist past still lingers in a sense?
Boston sports fans have a bad reputation because of
1) The way they act; both online and in the real world (loud and passionate with lots of bragging)
2) Because their teams are successful
3) They have a reputation for being racist sometimes
But honestly, if you’re a city with multiple historically relevant and continuously good teams, you just gain enemies🤷🏻♂️ like Lakers and Yankees fans
@@lucaslonchampt613it doesn’t lol, Boston gets this hate because it is a rich city
Because Boston fans are only beating by laker fans by how annoying they are
I definitely agree with the player introduction compliant. I mean how iconic is the bulls walkout to the song Sirius .
Things like that really give gravity to a finals
While I agree nobody in the East was gonna stop Boston this year, it still was pretty disappointing we didn’t really get to see any interesting matchups there. The Celtics were so good this year that the only thing we thought they needed to prove, closing out tight games and perform well in the clutch, wasn’t ever really necessary anyway. Boston felt like a Lamborghini that we only got to see drive at 25 mph, but that’s even more credit to Brad and the organization for how well they constructed this roster.
Charles Barkley saying it's snowing in Minnesota when it was actually 67 degrees was one of the funniest segments i've ever seen. God, we need an Inside the NBA finals coverage just once.
All I know is that the duo if Ryan Roucco and Rebecca Lobo, with the big 3 of Elle Duncan, Andrea Carter, and Chiney Ogwumike at halftime, would never disappoint me the way the team for the NBA finals did this year.
The Mavericks were way too reliant on Luka and Kyrie’s scoring. It felt like no one’s shot was falling this series on both sides but the Celtics did everything else well while the Mavs were just waiting until the shots started falling.
I won’t lie…TNT coverage has been superior to ESPN in my opinion. There’s an aura around Kevin Harlan when he commentates big regular season games and playoff games. Not to mention, you can ACTUALLY HEAR everything in the arena on TNT over Mickey Mouse ESPN….
Wow thank you so much for not lying, that must have been difficult.
@@michaelhaydenbell I was giving my actual honest opinion. You can be a sarcastic ass elsewhere
I'm a casual, but the last series I really cared about was Nuggets/Wolves since that one at least went 7. Doesn't help that the Cs and Mavs both play uninteresting basketball. I get all the talk of how talented the Cs roster is, but they're so boring to watch. Things that didn't help this:
1. ESPN constantly glazing them for being from Boston. They obviously aren't going to say that, but anybody who's had to watch ESPN at the gym knows what I'm talking about. It would've been just as bad if it was the Lakers. They just glaze the big market teams with a "storied history" and it makes me tired of hearing about them.
2. J Kidd shows how unimportant coaching can be in the NBA. Guys like Spo or Pop can have a huge impact on the game, but Kidd looks like a clueless idiot on the sidelines, and the Mavs win anyway because they have a good roster.
3. Everything else Kofie said about the ESPN/ABC presentation. Feels like they didn't give a shit about what should be their biggest sports programming of the year. I don't necessarily love NBC sports but they at least make it feel like they're happy to have this on air. TNT makes random mid-season games feel important and fun. I don't know why ESPN can spend hours breathlessly glazing the Cs but when it's time for the actual game, it's like they stopped caring. It's similar to how Fox's World Series coverage detracts from the game, though 90% of that is Joe Buck.
Ehh the Celtics are very interesting to watch they actually play team basketball but I understand most of yall like watching one or two player takeover all game
Neither of these teams play uninteresting wtf lol. Mavs were just off that the worst possibility time unlike when it's all clicking and Boston was Boston
I mean, I thought people were being crazy picking the mavs to win again. This Celtics team was just stacked.
It’s just Celtics Hate, I would know because I picked the Mavs
Ngl whats annoying more rn is how much people are beating around the bush on the Mavs .
How we getting crushed
Tf does that even mean?
ESPN/Disney doesn't care about giving the viewers what they want, they care about telling you what they want you to see/believe.
Best part of this Finals is the memes and jokes. Kyrie folded. What a shame
It didn't feel like the finals at all, it felt like the somber silence that comes with putting a very sick dog to sleep.
There is no better way to describe it than this
i wish we could.. oh i dont knoe. build up a positive narrative about both teams before the finals to try and make it seem like a legendary battle.... they made the mavs feel like they didnt even have an all star on their team and nobody was excited to see the game at all
ESPN’s NBA halftime show has to be one of the most boring soulless segments I’ve ever seen. And it’s been like this a for a few years. The cast literally has no chemistry and the commercials dominate most of the break. ESPN is really just a shell of itself and that’s sad to see. The NBA cannot afford to lose Inside in my opinion it’s way too iconic.
Can I say, another thing that definitely hurt the NBA Finals and playoffs as a whole is the cringy passing of the Larry O Brian in different events. Like it was every other day I was watching someone on Instagram who does not care for the game of basketball holding the trophy, and it just made it feel meaningless. When I saw the Celtics finally lift the chip, it felt weightless.
100% can’t win playing top down like that, Kobe said it himself in regards to Harden. Eventually a good defense can just hone in on your top guy and if nobody else has shot the ball in 5 minutes then yeah, you’re gonna lose in the long run. It’s a team game at the end of the day. Luka is practically in a body bag after this season, just not a good strategy long term.
I've said it for years: MSG (knicks) has the best score bug in the NBA. (although they made it worse this years, it was better in past years)
The finals hasn’t had a game 7 since 2016 and that one was fire
U can’t expect every finals to have a game 7
@@Hoodie-HasI think people just expect the finals to always at least be close and competitive because ideally their teams playing are the two best in the league. But realistically people have to realize basketball is still about matchups. Every series isn’t going to be great.
In my opinion, the intro to the 2015 Finals was peak production. I feel like you could show that to a casual viewer and they can immediately pick up why this game is meaningful, eras of the league, all time greats, and not to mention the background music. It felt BIG. I don’t understand why ESPN/ABC are unable to produce a product for the NBA that puts the square focus on making the Finals feel big, feel like there is a championship on the line. Now, I understand with a 7 game series vs a single game like (ie. Super Bowl) it does make the equation different, but then again, ESPN has the CFP and I honestly have zero complaints with that product. The graphics, build up, overall production value and everything surrounding those games are phenomenal. What can’t they invest that same effort into the NBA? I guess time will tell
Why is it that when the Celtics bring in veteran role players, everyone buys in and plays their role to a T. But when the *Lakers* bring in veteran role players, all of a sudden they forget how to play the game of basketball???? Serious question from a salty Lakers fan.
And don't tell me it's just a coaching diff. Derrick, Tingus, and Jrue have taken quantum leaps in Boston. But players like D'Lo, C. Wood, Malik, Nunn end up with career low shooting streaks once they get to LA. Make it make sense.
I think it's fit honestly. Jrue Holiday and Al Horford fit the Celtics scheme. Russell Westbrook and Pat Beverley do not
Bro I refuse to answer that for you the way you just compared those 2 examples, I think it's more important you figure out how silly that was on your own, especially for not taking into account having such an inauthentic drama queen of a leader for one and the other being much more of a... yknow...TEAM.
Finally some real basketball talk and not blinded by celtics hate. Respect
Hoping next year we get Nuggets vs Celtics so we know for sure who's the best team. Also Celtics deniers acting like Porzingas played the whole playoffs. Every contender in the East was down a starter and the Celtics still dominated.
Not just missing a starter but their best player.
Now if Tatum only played 3 games and Boston won, that would be something.
People talk about Denver last but they still beat KD & Booker and LeBron & AD. And even Miami beat Boston and Milwaukee.
Dallas beat the Clippers without Kawhi, the baby Thunder and a Minnesota team that looked completely spent after beating Denver. And Boston obviously played no one because the best player got hurt on the three teams.
It felt like a very default Finals because the one team that could really push Boston -- Denver -- wasn't there.
I feel the exact same way but even more about the NHL broadcast. I miss doc emrick
We definetly getting a Lakers vs Celtics 1&2 saga just now. It's going to feed Families for sure
Only until game 5 with the graphics and the no ads during time out did it feel like the finals. ESPN have destroyed the coverage. Even the score graphic being the same is pathetic. Should be in gold there should be a big trophy on the court etc. Make it feel like something special.
There's someone on YT that mixes the old playoff theme over timeouts in hope that ESPN will go back to the theme. It hits way better than the new one
The broadcast won’t change because the NBA will always go to the highest bidder, just the nature of the business 🤷🏿♂️
As a Celtics fan it felt like the appropriate finals to end a dominant season. Dallas came out strong on multiple occasions but Boston always had a response.
Now the halftime breaks… yeesh
also: the NBA on ESPN theme is the opposite of the NHL ESPN theme
It didn't feel like the Finals because the Mavs completely no showed and were a major disappointment behind their historically awful shooting, poor defense and worse attitude.
I have been preaching that ESPN is trash for YEARS. Their soccer coverage has been abysmal for longer than their basketball coverage has and I’m so happy more mainstream sports are taking notice.
They did the same thing in 2021 and 2023, any finals series that wasn't lebron or the warriors there was a low effort affair for ESPN, they also were smacked in the mouth after game 1 like the Mavs were when the C's showed they were really that good this year, They really were trying to show that it was Luka and Kyrie vs Boston discounting that they were the more complete team. You brough up all this but it really does go to show you that the celtics haven't really changed since 08. The more complete team dominating the super star and the supporting cast.
Gotta think buisness bro yes we fans and would like more coverage on the finals but business wise lebrons name generates more views it’s the way life is right now
If they are a business they should be able to adapt to what's going on, ESPN made it like it was dead set that the Mavericks was gonna win, putting doubt on the Celtics for a 10 days straight before the finals, posting odds from Vegas like its readings from Nostradamus. Trying to get the inside scoop on who's gonna be the new head coach of the Lakers like that shit is relevant as the season hasn't even ended yet and honestly I blame the people they hire who have hitched their wagon to covering Lebron like Windhorst. All and all it's bad for the NBA with how ESPN has covered the finals for the past 15 or so years.
@@Esquire311 bro they not bandwagoning they literally going off the viewers response, that other stuff I can’t speak on
@@AarionWalker I ain’t saying bandwagon, they are the ones that generate narratives and give analysis. When the bias is so blatant then that’s how you turn viewers away, it’s ok to be a fan of what you’re reporting on but to talk about it like it’s the full reality of the situation is always hilarious to me
@@Esquire311 I understand
It's hard to blame the nets for that trade man. They got Jason Terry too. That wasn't even mentioned smh.
That trade was immediately considered a massive failure as soon as it was announced, so I think it's fair to criticize the Nets. A vast majority of people knew it wasn't going to work. The rich Russian guy who bought the team gave away way too many assets for such a comparably small return.
@@j-rey- relax man. Sarcasm
@@damitrimoore oh 😆. It's hard to tell on youtube, some people are that stupid.
Mentioning the spurs as a contender is nasty....
I feel like the media/ ESPN lost the art of story telling and show casing the hard work and dedication that lead both teams to the finals in a major way. I agree with the presentation on the court that it didn’t feel like the finals. They invested time and resources for the in-season tournament with the on court presentation, why not the finals which is the logical choice? This finals was boring and gave up watching it after game 1.
What’s funny is a lot of people say they haven’t been watching the finals for the past like 5 yrs but NBA continues to boast about breaking viewing records which I find funny
People didn’t really expect The Mavs to win, they just really wanted them or anyone else to win besides Boston.
Personally, what annoys me more is how easy Celtics made it to the finals. I had little doubt they would make it regardless since they had the better roster (even with KP out). To play every series leading up to the finals against teams that were already at a disadvantage... and then their star player gets hurt... that's weak beyond comparison
Maybe but that's not the Celtics being weak, that's everyone else failing to drink their milk and eat their Wheaties.
Was listening to Dallas sports radio pregame and postgame and that was honestly my favorite part of the finals. Maybe next year Mavs.
Same dude, but that's because I knew they were gonna win as soon as Helibert went down.
The past few finals have felt so underwhelming. I feel like a lot of it is the ESPN graphics and presentation. Ik the trophy hasn’t been on the court in over 10 years but they should bring it back. They made entire new courts, trophy and all, for the in season tournament but for the finals they just have the computerized ads. It just takes away from the finals experience, at least have the Finals logo actually on the court not just on the broadcast. Speaking of the broadcast, the graphics package sucks. The minimalism makes the scoreboard look like a movie game. Also it feels like the crowd isn’t as loud on the broadcasts idk if that’s just a me thing
i consider that Knicks Sixers series the finals because that was by far the most fun part of the whole playoffs
Nuggets wolves clears easily
I think a ton falls on the broadcast and coverage. ESPN and the NBA have completely dropped the ball over the last couple years. The jerseys, the court, the graphic package and even the halftime show is completely lifeless. I remember watching Kobe beat the Celtics and it felt more like an epic story coming to its conclusion. This broadcast team was very disappointing as well. Somehow they made Mike Breen seem less exciting. No shot to Burke and Reddick but Mark Jackson and Van Gundy just fit together. The scoreboard absolutely sucks too. They’ve gotta do better
2 weeks between ECF/WCF and the NBA finals leads to a depressing lead to the finals. yeah the same happens for NFL and a month break between last game of CFB and the TItle.. but there is so much that leads up to it, and it's only One game, One day,One time. Finals is a series.
Also Boston was under repped by media. Imagine having a team with a top 10 player, top 20(ish player), top 30 player, and defensive players where they won 64 games in regular season and only lost 2 games in EC getting to finals and being yawned at. So ridiculous. It seemed every other team in the WC was over hyped by the media..
The Mavs had momentum from the second half of the season to make it to the finals. I doubt they will be back, so many acquisitions are gonna happen in free agency which will probably lower the amount of playoff caliber teams in the west by 1 or maybe 2. Unless the Mavs use the system they have now by splitting the 5 spot to conserve and push pace, they still don’t have enough 3rd and 4th options to count on for scoring
That’s what they will address this offseason or at the next deadline
ESPN’s Presentation is just awful. They just don’t get it. The rotating panel of random NBA players was just awful.
Like just talk about the game and series. yap, analyze, do whatever. Finish your season as a tv show with the crew that got you there (which sucks enough already).
But shoehorning these random ass players in this moment; instead of just focusing on THE FINALS AND THE PLAYERS IN IT!!!!! I just don’t understand who makes these choices for ESPN, why, and if ANYBODY actually enjoys what they do 😂
But that would need effort~ We need somethign easy and can generate clicks, like how Lebron unfollowed “Big Perk” on social media (actual ESPN segment title DURING the finals)
@@jack90054 that’s insane haha. They are so insular and make this weird little version of the nba world to live through. Oddballs
9:00 "is there such a thing as too much being on one person?" i would say yes for sure. i think the only time you find success with one player having such a high offensive load is when it's someone like jokic, who is facilitating within a flowing system more often than he is isolating against set defense. this celtics team is the latest example of cohesive team play on both ends being the winning formula.
Now I realize your voice is from the awesome Secret Base videos! Your hat tipped me off, the algorithm had to have thrown me your personal channel because I watch their channel so much
Markelle Fultz over Tatum is still crazy to me. The Celtics were going to pick Tatum first overall but traded back when they found out the Sixers wanted Fultz and the Lakers were always taking Ball
Crazy based on college tape or based on what they became?
Or because of the atrocious front office in Philly that had no clue Boston wanted Tatum all along while Boston knew with certainty Tatum would be there at three
A few thoughts: I think Denver would have given the Celtics a much tougher series and Without KP, I don’t think the Celtics could have even stopped Jokic, Dallas was a great story, but once they got into the a finals, the depth and size of Celtics was too much and sad truth is Irving is now in his 30’s, so maybe lost a step and you saw what happened with how the Celtics were able to put guys on him and that slowed him down (also he took some less than awesome shots), I think also getting through East, facing teams who lost important players to injuries, so that the Celtics didn’t have as many challenges and were able to keep their players healthy… Celtics were a great team this year, but the playoffs were kinda meh in quality of games
I don't understand those who thought the Mavs were going to win. Great 2nd half of season but still very flawed but also only for through because OKC couldnt get anyone else to contribute and Mavs rode a hot streak and each game still came to the wire. Then played an inexperienced squad w/KTowns. Meanwhile Boston has been dominant. Just because you beat a team that beat The team doesn't mean you become The Team; transitive property does not apply.
Especially in this year's NBA
Matchups are as important as they have ever been.
I can honestly say that I watched less than 2 minutes of the nba finals. To be perfectly honest, I did not even know the Celtics won until today. Today's NBA Finals just does not have the same interest as it once had. The last one that I watched in it's entirety was the 2016 Cavs-Warriors.
half the time you couldn’t see the amount of timeouts a team had on the scoreboard
Go Mavs! Congrats Celtics. Kofie, you were spot on about the broadcast. I skipped the pregame and halftime. Enjoyed Breen and Burke. Inside the NBA would be amazing for the Finals.
Happening in the nhl too, it isn’t competitive😭
I think it's fine to say that the Celtics are one of the best teams of the last decade but you've got to quit saying NBA history. They got out of a super easy East and ended up playing a 5-seed in the finals. I don't think we know how good this team is but we know it's a really solid team. I don't even think they go back to back. I'm not trying to hate on them but they ended up getting a team that they matched up really well against in the finals and I'm not so sure that the result would have been the same if that had been the Nuggets or the Timberwolves especially the Nuggets. Boston is one of the better teams in the last 5 years but that's as far as I'm willing to go. Let's see what happens to them over the next couple years and then we can start placing them correctly in NBA history. . Remember that the Nuggets had a pretty easy time in the playoffs when they won the championship as well but they got knocked out before they even got to their conference finals the next year. Let's not jump on the bandwagon and figure out how good they are over the next few years.
The Mavs were never going to win. Dallas has no plan. They weren’t architected. They let Brunson walk, ran Tingus Pingus out of town, went to the thrift store for the worst piece of Brooklyn’s super team, and then tanked for a weak draft pick. And don’t get me started on Jason Kidd. That’s not how championships are built.
a well deserved vacay for Kofie! nbc needs to get in the NBA game
I’m not the only one who had the same opinions now my team won the championship so I’m happy but this all felt weird and didn’t feel like it felt from years ago
On the team make up, you CAN find a similar team historically. Unfortunately it’s ALSO the Celtics
Wipe the floor with the pacers is crazy
people always do this when a team wins the finals now, trying to tear them down and tell how "easy" their run was. kinda sad.
people are CRYING because the celtics put together the best team in the league, played great team ball, REMAINED HEALTHY, and moved accordingly?
People are complaining because they did all that and they’re boring as hell to watch
@@jacksonhoward3444in a league with no super teams anymore the Celtics were as close as you can get without being a super team. That’s not their fault at all. But it’s still pretty boring seeing a team that’s clearly above everyone else just dominate the whole season to a championship.
Like I said. Not their fault at all they did what they were supposed to do and can only play who’s in front of them. But it still made the playoffs pretty predictable and boring. Every other team was scratching and clawing while the Celtics were basically running through flower fields.
@@ithinkimanaries2620 totally agree
Were a lot of analysts and fans really expecting the Mavs to win? That wasn’t my perception. Can’t believe if you’ve watched these 2 teams that anyone would actually have the Mavs over the Celtics. Yeah this was worst playoffs in like 20 years (since I’ve been watching)
Fans were picking Dallas 70-30 in like every poll and ESPN's analysts were about 50-50
Agree though. I thought it was wild people thought these teams were close. Especially since Boston's offense and defense are designed in a lab to beat this Mavs team
My favorite nba UA-camr. Beyond insightful 🙌🏽
I don't think any team that made the playoffs this year were going to put up any effort resembling a fight against this Celtics team.
I think this is the first NBA finals since 2010 that I haven’t watched. I’ve just been so uninterested and wanted the season to be over. Call it unc energy, call it whatever, but I’m glad the season’s done frankly
I'm fully convinced that a #1 option can have too much of the offensive load placed on him. Luka turned the ball over and bricked so many shots at crucial times because the rest of his team, especially Kyrie, was unreliable as far as shot making goes.
His defense was also abysmal for most of these games. If you want to be kind, you could say he was saving his energy for the offense. Unfortunately, for the finals, this kind of playstyle doesn't work well.
He may have been the best player on the floor, but he also didn't perform up to his usual level of greatness. Terrible free throw percentage. Relatively low FG%. Also, fouling out the way he did in game 3 (I think) was a terrible decision on his part. Mavs could have won that game.
Of course, most importantly, Boston was able to guard him and, especially, his team so damn well.
My Dad was quite angry that Dallas wasn't moving the ball around.
I'm screaming in front of my tv everytime the Mavs run iso and brick a shot.
@@myam754So you want DJJ dribbling against Derrick White and PJ trying to drive on Al Horford?
In order to move the ball you gave to get two on the ball and Dallas couldn't do that against Boston except in the 60 minutes KP was playing because they couldn't beat Boston's defenders off the dribble and Boston switched every screen.
Even if you change the offense and run Kyrie around like Steph, Boston is still just gonna switch.
The only way to beat a switching team is isolation -- to make them bring two to the ball -- or on the glass. Otherwise they will switch and all that player and ball movement does nothing.