I can’t imagine why Jane risked her life for Katherine Howard. I have to imagine there was some ulterior motive or purpose to her standing watch while Katherine entertained Thomas Culpepper, because she knew first hand what could happen to her and everyone around her. Philippa Gregory’s theory seems the most plausible, that she was ordered by Norfolk to help Katherine conceive an heir for the king with Culpepper. It’s one of the strangest things in history that just do not make sense.
I thought this but I thought maybe she saw Katherine as the daughter she never had considering that Katherine was very young but distantly related to her through marriage and maybe she did it out of maternal instincts towards her. Xx
@@l.plantagenet plus a child with Katherine Howard would have further secured her place on the throne bc she was capable of making kids which is all Henry cared about after awhile
I was and still am mystified about Jane and Queen Katherine. Jane had been at Court a long time, she witnessed a lot of executions, including her husband's and sister inlaw.. She knew Henry VIII's temper and cruelty. So why did she do it⁉️. I guess it's something we'll never know.
William Parker is my grandfather 9X removed. As cofounder of the Virginia Company, he was of course gentry at court. I’m curious if and how he would be related to Jane Parker. Mary Parker, his daughter, is my grandmother having married William Webber. Could you please expound upon this most interesting story as well??
There’s a better theory that Katherine Howard was not unfaithful to Henry 8 with Culpepper or anyone else. Her marriage was very unhappy. Both were more or less forced. Jane spied around and was involved in many intrigues..
Interesting how through the sands of time our lives intertwine. When I was younger I worked and aquatinted with the family of a Gentle giant of a fellow with the name Boleyn. From New Zealand. My ancestors was also in promenance on Scotland's throne at the time of Henry viii.
Very Interesting story and I can not understand why Jane did what she did considering she would know what would happen to her having seen them closest to her be executed, how on earth was she not afraid of having the same thing done to her, Is mind-boggling
Jane Boleyn gave false testimony against Anne and her husband George leading to their executions. Karma caught up for her sins in sending 2 innocent people to death.
Where those that were executed at the Tower of London would their loved ones been able to request to have their bodies returned to them for proper burial or was being convicted enough to ensure that they had to legal say in such ? I’m not a lawyer and definitely don’t have any expertise in 16th British law but would be interesting to learn
@@ladyshakari Just awful. How could anyone really be safe? They went in monasteries and murdered monks who were no threat to them because they never left the monasteries.
Jane Boleyn was like Anne Boleyn Did you had terrible husbands but unlike Jane Anne never tried to kill her husband Both women were very strong and very beautiful but jealousy madness can train someone evil like how we saw with Jane
There is actually no evidence to say jane had any part in her husbands or anne boleyns execution. yes she had a big part to play in Katherine Howard's affair with culpepper i think its unfair for a lot of people to say she got what she deserves
I recently found that jane Boleyn is an ancestor of mine going back in time in my family tree her brother Henry Parker is my grt father many times over. So I’ve become very interested in her life. My belief is that ah dry the 8th was a tyrant & already had his eyes on jane Seymour and Anne was not conceiving it was his plan all along to get rid of Anne & anything to do with the Boleyns. If any one is more interested there is a book on janes life by Julia fox the famous lady rochford she has done extensive research of her life & theories. Also the portrait claiming to be of jane Boylen is also disputed to be of lady grace Parker (newport) my many times grandmother sister in law to jane. Hans Holbein wouldn’t of named jane as lady Parker in the portrait as she was known as lady rochford at the time. That’s the claim anyway.
@@kathrynorozco5416 depends where your looking for your evidence for that. As I said in my comment a lot of history on jane isn’t actually correct and she has been portrayed inaccurately to be a villain in history alot of the accounts are not all true. Like the fact that her and George had a horrible marriage & she testified against him & Anne sending them to their deaths when in reality she was pressured by the likes of Henry the 8th who was a man who wanted his own way and that of Cromwell with threats. Times were very dangerous & different back then. So for us to comment when we wasn’t there and living through those times is silly. Jane visited and wrote to George while he was incarcerated, with very loving words if she didn’t love her husband and felt guilt she never would of visited him before his death. I have since done many research on her, her life at court & ancestry. As I said in my above comments half of the history on jane isn’t correct nor accurate. The only person to truly look into jane Boleyns life is Julia fox who has written a biography on her life and has looked at all evidence that is available on her. I’m not saying she was an angel but she did things to survive those times in her way & we don’t know the full history to truly say in certain circumstances. She is not my direct ancestor anyway I’m her brothers direct ancestor and her parents. I find it fascinating to come from the line I do tbh but appreciate your comment & the overall feelings ppl have about her in history. But I do encourage people to not always go of the villain in history theory who was a jealous wife.
@@kathrynorozco5416 also most of the accounts written about jane were written 50-100 years after her death and nor is there true based evidence for majority of the narrative that was written about her. Very unfair in my eyes.
For some reason, Jane seemed to thrive on gossip and intrigue. Margaret Pole, on the other hand, stayed under the radar by not living at court. Henry killed her anyway. Such a dangerous time to be a noble in England.
I always read about her as a traitor to her husband and that envied and hated Anne because her husband spent more time with his sister than with her I don't care what the new version of her says we can pretend to know more than her contemporaries we did not live in that so I believe what her contemporaries said about her most of them even knew her or her family and while we modern people didn't we were not there
Except the modern account is more accurate because they go by contemporary evidence. The betrayal narrative you’re talking about is based on hearsay and accounts that took place 50-100 years after the fact. We also need to remember how powerful the Kings propaganda machine was. Anne was so ruined that she wasn’t spoken of even under her daughter’s reign. There is no contemporary evidence that Jane and George hated each other, or that she hated Anne.
@@cl5470 History Calling did a really great video about her that basically debunks all the myths about her. I don’t think calling her life sinister is all that fair.
So hard to get through the video I would defy anyone after watching the video for six or seven minutes to repeat what you've learned it's agonizingly painful a little personality would have been good just a little bit of Personality would have been good
I can’t imagine why Jane risked her life for Katherine Howard. I have to imagine there was some ulterior motive or purpose to her standing watch while Katherine entertained Thomas Culpepper, because she knew first hand what could happen to her and everyone around her. Philippa Gregory’s theory seems the most plausible, that she was ordered by Norfolk to help Katherine conceive an heir for the king with Culpepper. It’s one of the strangest things in history that just do not make sense.
I thought this but I thought maybe she saw Katherine as the daughter she never had considering that Katherine was very young but distantly related to her through marriage and maybe she did it out of maternal instincts towards her. Xx
Maybe she enjoyed the intrigue and didn't think about the danger.
But he already had an heir.
@@l.plantagenet he needed an “heir and a spare” just in case something happened to Edward.
@@l.plantagenet plus a child with Katherine Howard would have further secured her place on the throne bc she was capable of making kids which is all Henry cared about after awhile
"Her life was very interesting." Understatement of the day. This was a wonderful review of a rather complicated time in English history! Thank you!
Jane Boleyn ended up just like her husband and sister in law.. reduced to tatters.. I still think Mary Boleyn was the smartest one..
The luckiest, anyway. Anne was very smart.
Mary was smart enough to distance herself from the Court during her sister's fall, anyway.
@@dianetheisen8664 Exactly and she chose happiness over power..
I was and still am mystified about Jane and Queen Katherine. Jane had been at Court a long time, she witnessed a lot of executions, including her husband's and sister inlaw.. She knew Henry VIII's temper and cruelty. So why did she do it⁉️. I guess it's something we'll never know.
Henry was a monster. 😩
The worst!
If only he had been forced to stand upon a scaffold with a crowd watching.
And if the images of him are anything to go by, he was most unattractive!
if he was a monster he had his reasons
@@verak66 he would have broken the scaffold!
What goes around comes around
Jane’s residence was not a “house”. It was a palace!
William Parker is my grandfather 9X removed. As cofounder of the Virginia Company, he was of course gentry at court. I’m curious if and how he would be related to Jane Parker. Mary Parker, his daughter, is my grandmother having married William Webber. Could you please expound upon this most interesting story as well??
I could maybe help with this on my family tree as I also found recently I’m an ancestor of jane boylen & baron Morley & Alice St. John x
@@clairewrigley6733 Are you really an ancestor of theirs? How old are you?
@@thomasmiles9068 well if my family tree is all correct. I’m 33.
There’s a better theory that Katherine Howard was not unfaithful to Henry 8 with Culpepper or anyone else. Her marriage was very unhappy. Both were more or less forced. Jane spied around and was involved in many intrigues..
Interesting how through the sands of time our lives intertwine. When I was younger I worked and aquatinted with the family of a Gentle giant of a fellow with the name Boleyn. From New Zealand. My ancestors was also in promenance on Scotland's throne at the time of Henry viii.
Interesting story thank you for sharing
Very Interesting story and I can not understand why Jane did what she did considering she would know what would happen to her having seen them closest to her be executed, how on earth was she not afraid of having the same thing done to her, Is mind-boggling
Jane Boleyn gave false testimony against Anne and her husband George leading to their executions. Karma caught up for her sins in sending 2 innocent people to death.
I love this channel. Great job!!
Where those that were executed at the Tower of London would their loved ones been able to request to have their bodies returned to them for proper burial or was being convicted enough to ensure that they had to legal say in such ? I’m not a lawyer and definitely don’t have any expertise in 16th British law but would be interesting to learn
Who wasn't sleeping with each other back then?
So true. There was a lot of sneaky things going on. Seems you lived longer if you stayed away from that court.
@@ladyshakari Safer to be a farmer and keep to yourself.
@@verak66 indeed, you can burn for worship of a different faith.
@@ladyshakari Just awful. How could anyone really be safe? They went in monasteries and murdered monks who were no threat to them because they never left the monasteries.
What is the music you use in the video Its really good to litssen to
Jane Boleyn was like Anne Boleyn Did you had terrible husbands but unlike Jane Anne never tried to kill her husband Both women were very strong and very beautiful but jealousy madness can train someone evil like how we saw with Jane
There is actually no evidence to say jane had any part in her husbands or anne boleyns execution. yes she had a big part to play in Katherine Howard's affair with culpepper i think its unfair for a lot of people to say she got what she deserves
It seems to me like she was always meddling. Wherever there’s gossip, there Jane Boleyn was.
I recently found that jane Boleyn is an ancestor of mine going back in time in my family tree her brother Henry Parker is my grt father many times over. So I’ve become very interested in her life. My belief is that ah dry the 8th was a tyrant & already had his eyes on jane Seymour and Anne was not conceiving it was his plan all along to get rid of Anne & anything to do with the Boleyns. If any one is more interested there is a book on janes life by Julia fox the famous lady rochford she has done extensive research of her life & theories. Also the portrait claiming to be of jane Boylen is also disputed to be of lady grace Parker (newport) my many times grandmother sister in law to jane. Hans Holbein wouldn’t of named jane as lady Parker in the portrait as she was known as lady rochford at the time. That’s the claim anyway.
No offense but that’s Sad for you having to be related to an awful person. She led four people to their deaths and a very manipulative person
@@kathrynorozco5416 depends where your looking for your evidence for that. As I said in my comment a lot of history on jane isn’t actually correct and she has been portrayed inaccurately to be a villain in history alot of the accounts are not all true. Like the fact that her and George had a horrible marriage & she testified against him & Anne sending them to their deaths when in reality she was pressured by the likes of Henry the 8th who was a man who wanted his own way and that of Cromwell with threats. Times were very dangerous & different back then. So for us to comment when we wasn’t there and living through those times is silly. Jane visited and wrote to George while he was incarcerated, with very loving words if she didn’t love her husband and felt guilt she never would of visited him before his death. I have since done many research on her, her life at court & ancestry. As I said in my above comments half of the history on jane isn’t correct nor accurate. The only person to truly look into jane Boleyns life is Julia fox who has written a biography on her life and has looked at all evidence that is available on her. I’m not saying she was an angel but she did things to survive those times in her way & we don’t know the full history to truly say in certain circumstances. She is not my direct ancestor anyway I’m her brothers direct ancestor and her parents. I find it fascinating to come from the line I do tbh but appreciate your comment & the overall feelings ppl have about her in history. But I do encourage people to not always go of the villain in history theory who was a jealous wife.
@@kathrynorozco5416 also most of the accounts written about jane were written 50-100 years after her death and nor is there true based evidence for majority of the narrative that was written about her. Very unfair in my eyes.
Are you ever gonna do a video on Grace O'Malley?
She was a contemporary of queen Elizabeth and there aren't enough good videos on her.
For some reason, Jane seemed to thrive on gossip and intrigue. Margaret Pole, on the other hand, stayed under the radar by not living at court. Henry killed her anyway. Such a dangerous time to be a noble in England.
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What does that have to do with Grace O'Malley?
Jesus, talk about karma
Some how managed to climb her way back to the king's court...some how?...you know how 😆... she was a "lady" after all
I always read about her as a traitor to her husband and that envied and hated Anne because her husband spent more time with his sister than with her I don't care what the new version of her says we can pretend to know more than her contemporaries we did not live in that so I believe what her contemporaries said about her most of them even knew her or her family and while we modern people didn't we were not there
Except the modern account is more accurate because they go by contemporary evidence. The betrayal narrative you’re talking about is based on hearsay and accounts that took place 50-100 years after the fact. We also need to remember how powerful the Kings propaganda machine was. Anne was so ruined that she wasn’t spoken of even under her daughter’s reign. There is no contemporary evidence that Jane and George hated each other, or that she hated Anne.
Contemporaries liked her. It was later historians who turned her into a villain.
@@cl5470 History Calling did a really great video about her that basically debunks all the myths about her. I don’t think calling her life sinister is all that fair.
@@coreyboggs2011 Nope, that is revisionist bullcrap. She was seen as a traitor and a horrible person by contemporaries. And most likely, she was!
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I bet Elizabeth was not fond of her aunt, Jane for what she did to her mother.
Aunt in law not even a true aunt. Her aunt was who knows where with her husband and boy aka she only had one aunt, Mary Boleyn
It's pronounced "Beecham" in the UK.
There was nothing sinister about Jane Boleyn. She did what she had to in order to survive as long as she could.
So hard to get through the video I would defy anyone after watching the video for six or seven minutes to repeat what you've learned it's agonizingly painful a little personality would have been good just a little bit of Personality would have been good