Grew up with and loved the Soupy Sales Show then in 1990 Soupy happily cheered us along then joined in a Veterans march along 42nd Street in Manhattan.
Kitty Carlisle was the queen of evening gowns. Arlene became a little more hip in the 1970s; look at the hot pants she wore when Burt Reynolds was the mystery guest on WML.
Dorothy Kilgallen is by far my favorite panelist. She is so very smart and often nails the answer! My second favorite is Arlene Francis. She is also sharp but has a great deal of joviality!
Interesting. I'm just the opposite. In this episode in particular, Dorothy annoys me. For example, getting hung up on the 'display' aspect of the trampoline. Or suggesting the gal dances with snakes. This episode isn't Arlene's greatest, either. But across the series, she seems incredibly sharp-thinking and quick-witted. I like that!
Arlene's gown puts me in mind of Gil Fates's joke line from the Arlene Francis chapter of his WML book. Something to the effect of "You'd never know to look at the way she dresses on our show that she sleep's in Martin's old gym uniforms."
regarding Joan Collins: The second volume of her autobiography was called "Second Act" and was released in 1996, following her successful court battle against her publisher, Random House. The company had demanded that Joan return the $2-million advance it had given her for two novels, as it claimed her submissions were "substandard". The New York judge ruled in her favor.
Bennett Cerf was also the mastermind behind the long-standing scam of the "Writing School", which, like the "Famous Art School", encouraged people to send samples of their work, told them they had talent, and scanned them for tuition fees. This was all exposed in a feature by famed muckraker Jessica Mitford.
So glad that I could find an episode of the original What's My Line? with Soupy as a guest panelist, just a few years before he appeared as a regular panelist on the syndicated revival. He was one of the best celebrity players on several game shows including To Tell the Truth, Match Game, Hollywood Squares, and most of all, Pyramid.
That was Anthony Newley's fault. He should have from the very beginning hid his British accent with an American one. Once they knew they were British, it was all over (they were the talk of the town back then)
I am fairly sure I would not have known who Joan Collins was in May 1965. (I would have heard of Anthony Newley in passing.) My first acquaintance with Miss Collins was her role as Edith Keeler in one of the very best "Star Trek" (TOS) episodes, "The City on the Edge of Forever". It is a role and episode that I think about often and use occasionally in discussions about far-ranging topics.
How things can come together. Newly had great influence on Bowie's starting career. In the panel in Soupy Sales, who's sons many years were part of Bowie's Tin Machine, somewhere in the late eighties.
Watching the celebrity guest made me remember Joan's book. Anthony Newly abandoned her & their child after their daughter was in a car accident as a child.
Around this time, many of my classmates were into watching Soupy Sales in a big way. In contrast, I was never much of a fan of his. Even so, I have been impressed by his two appearances on WML so far. He doesn't abandon his shtick, but he dials it back a couple of notches so it enlivens the game play without interfering with it. I thought that his question of one of the challengers about wearing gloves was a good one. I don't recall the question having been asked before,
Anthony Newly didn't change his voice AT ALL. And he's supposed to be an actor? Also, I wonder if he had any idea he'd end up being one of 5 husbands that Collins would have.
Dorothy made an erroneous statement when they were discussing how she guessed the Mystery Guests when she said "He's English and she's not" when in actuality they are both English.
Another of the most transitional episodes of WML, though no one at the time knew it. Dorothy would be the past in about seven months. Daly would be history in 2 1/4 years. Arlene is the past, the present, the future. Soupy Sales is the future. And in this broadcast we see why.
It's worth a laugh searching UA-cam for "Soupy Sales Do The Mouse" to see what Arlene was describing. Can anyone imagine Bennett doing the Watusi? The audience was more rowdy than I've ever heard, between the baby crying, wolf-whistling a male contestant, and the guy who keeps shouting "Bravo!"
Good imagination for Bennett by getting the trampoline. I knew Dorothy was thinking pool table, but some are quite decretive and no trampoline is AFAIK.
poetcomic1. it was probably a prank, john daly makes it a point to welcome "the good folks of iowa, jefferson iowa." the whistles were guys, probably his buddies trying to embarrass him.
Bennett asks if it's in the alligator family. Alligators have four legs, and that had already been asked at least twice and his being mocked when he suggested a tiger after the first "no" to being four-legged.
Okay, now I have an answer for where I would go if I could time travel. I would go to New York City 1965 to watch Dorothy Kilgallen and friends dancing "the Watusi", and maybe join in.
I love Arlene, Dorothy and Bennett! Did anyone notice that the right side of Arlene's face drooped slightly? You can see it 7:30 through 8:20. I was never a fan of Anthony Newley's singing voice. His vibrato was excruciating on the ear but I suppose it does well on the Broadway stage. For me, he came off as self absorbed when he sang. Sorry.
Why did John and the panel talk so long with the first contestant? Almost two minutes after that John had flipped all the cards. And another peculiar thing is that you can hear a baby babble ca @9:00
Johan Bengtsson What's My Line? To take the most obvious (and easy) explanation; The first contestant was both sophisticated, had an interesting occupation, and was extremly beautiful. ;)
SuperWinterborn And what would the less obvious explanation be? :) "The first contestant was both sophisticated, had an interesting occupation, and was extremly beautiful." You can apply those words on countless of female contestants who never received the same treatment. :)
Johan Bengtsson Ok, but this particular contestant seemed to had caught Daly's attention more than usual. I'm sure, if this was digital recorded, we would have seen John's eyes sparkling, the few times he dared look at her. ;)
Probably his friends from home that are making fun of him. John mentions something that there is nice to have so many from Jefferson, Iowa in the audience.
Bennett obviously isn't paying very close attention when the first contestant was on. It was determined that it wasn't a 4 legged animal yet he went on to guess "Tiger" and then guessed "Alligator" after he'd already been chided for guessing "Tiger".
Joan Collins' hairdo... sorry, but I think even Dolly Parton might have suggested dialing back the volume. I think Joan Collins is a gorgeous woman, but boy, I couldn't keep from staring at that massive thing on her head.
The skier is gorgeous! Looks somewhat Like joan Collins with smaller hair. Also glad to hear from Soupy that Dorothy enjoyed the new dances. Not a square like Bennett.
Grew up with and loved the Soupy Sales Show then in 1990 Soupy happily cheered us along then joined in a Veterans march along 42nd Street in Manhattan.
The great, one and only, awkward genius Anthony Newley!
He didn't exactly seem thrilled to be there though.
Joan Collins' hair is bigger than a football helmet. The water skier was gorgeous!
Wow Joan Collins... gorgeous
I love Joan's maternity dress! So flowing and classy.
Arlene certainly loved her gowns...we all loved her gowns. Those were the days of such elegance; everyone looked like such adults.
Arlene was also on the board of Bonwit-Teller dept.store. She was promoting their upscale ladies dresses on the hugely watched WML back in the day.
I wished those Elegant,Eloquent and Dapper Days would revive their Days into the 21st Century.
And I loved the manner they spoke in.
Kitty Carlisle was the queen of evening gowns. Arlene became a little more hip in the 1970s; look at the hot pants she wore when Burt Reynolds was the mystery guest on WML.
@@lastdays3148 I agree with you and especially this horrible age of big fake buttocks and trashy clothing .
Dorothy Kilgallen is by far my favorite panelist. She is so very smart and often nails the answer! My second favorite is Arlene Francis. She is also sharp but has a great deal of joviality!
Interesting. I'm just the opposite. In this episode in particular, Dorothy annoys me. For example, getting hung up on the 'display' aspect of the trampoline. Or suggesting the gal dances with snakes. This episode isn't Arlene's greatest, either. But across the series, she seems incredibly sharp-thinking and quick-witted. I like that!
COLLINS MUST BE IN A WIG....?????
@@d.jensen5153 Arlene looks seek...
@@jimrick6632 Always!
I LOVE DOROTHY!
Tony NewIey regards the panel with the menacing glare of a silent movie villain.
Exactly! Villain describes him well. Kind of a comical villain.
Joan the only one still here .. how cool is that
& working.
Dame Joan Collins on FX, Baby! #AmericanHorrorStory
LINDA EVENS IS STILL AROUND....
@@jimrick6632... he meant on this show.
@@jimrick6632 It's Evans, and NOT on this show.
Joan looks gorgeous here.
Joan is gorgeous, smart and so funny.
Dame Joan Collins, I think she iconic, still going strong in 2022.
That’s the biggest hairdo I’ve ever seen.
Our Joanie♥️
@@HiHi-xk5mb that wig is the worst!
@kellygreen5556 I agree! 🙂
@@HiHi-xk5mbYes. I've read the catty remarks she has long made about others so trashing that ridiculous wig she wore here is fair game.
Arlene's gown puts me in mind of Gil Fates's joke line from the Arlene Francis chapter of his WML book. Something to the effect of "You'd never know to look at the way she dresses on our show that she sleep's in Martin's old gym uniforms."
Hi it’s now Aug 2018 I really appreciate being able to see and enjoy Dorothy Kilgallen. What a horrible terrible tragedy that She was Murderd
regarding Joan Collins:
The second volume of her autobiography was called "Second Act" and was released in 1996, following her successful court battle against her publisher, Random House. The company had demanded that Joan return the $2-million advance it had given her for two novels, as it claimed her submissions were "substandard". The New York judge ruled in her favor.
Maybe they thought they were substandard compared to sister Jackie's novels.
AND, Bennett Cerf was one of the owners of Random House. ( although Bennett was well dead by the time Joan was writing.)
Bennett Cerf was also the mastermind behind the long-standing scam of the "Writing School", which, like the "Famous Art School", encouraged people to send samples of their work, told them they had talent, and scanned them for tuition fees. This was all exposed in a feature by famed muckraker Jessica Mitford.
Interesting episode ! Anthony Newley and Joan Collins ended up having a bitter divorce in 1971.
Joan Collins looks stunning !
Joan Collins....wow!
She's no Marie Dressler, but I will admit that Joan is one fetching lass !!
Beyond gorgeous, super prettilyJoan Collins 1960s,
So glad that I could find an episode of the original What's My Line? with Soupy as a guest panelist, just a few years before he appeared as a regular panelist on the syndicated revival. He was one of the best celebrity players on several game shows including To Tell the Truth, Match Game, Hollywood Squares, and most of all, Pyramid.
Soupy’s real name was Milton Supman.
Soupy as cute as ever!
Kinda ironic that this was the year her 5th husband Percy Gibson was born! Lol
Who??
Oh god that cradle robber 😅
I can't believe how quickly they were able to guess the mystery guests.
That was Anthony Newley's fault. He should have from the very beginning hid his British accent with an American one. Once they knew they were British, it was all over (they were the talk of the town back then)
In the 80's Joan Collins was briefly married to the Swedish pop singer Peter Holm, who had a hit with a cover version of "Sister Jane".
I am fairly sure I would not have known who Joan Collins was in May 1965. (I would have heard of Anthony Newley in passing.) My first acquaintance with Miss Collins was her role as Edith Keeler in one of the very best "Star Trek" (TOS) episodes, "The City on the Edge of Forever". It is a role and episode that I think about often and use occasionally in discussions about far-ranging topics.
Definitely a distinctive star trek episode with joan
She makes it less than two years from this episode.
Joan had been in films since the 50s.
Isn't it refreshing to see people act dress and talk with Class?
Especially smug, uppity and egg-headed snobs.
Yes. Too bad there is not as much anymore
Ted Bundy dressed and talked classy. Cerf was a scam artist who badmouthed Dorothy after her death
Fake
I want to go back there!
How things can come together. Newly had great influence on Bowie's starting career. In the panel in Soupy Sales, who's sons many years were part of Bowie's Tin Machine, somewhere in the late eighties.
Watching the celebrity guest made me remember Joan's book. Anthony Newly abandoned her & their child after their daughter was in a car accident as a child.
Around this time, many of my classmates were into watching Soupy Sales in a big way. In contrast, I was never much of a fan of his.
Even so, I have been impressed by his two appearances on WML so far. He doesn't abandon his shtick, but he dials it back a couple of notches so it enlivens the game play without interfering with it.
I thought that his question of one of the challengers about wearing gloves was a good one. I don't recall the question having been asked before,
What does Soupy sale?
Always a big Soupy fan!♥️
And to think that Soupy would eventually be a full time member on the panel in the 70's.
It was not the same show as the original
Although he likely did not remember doing so, John told the same "joke" about the mule and the rope on a WML episode in the 1950s.
After Joan Collins married Anthony Newley in 1963, did she go about telling people that she was "Newley married"?
I was a new baby then, too - 2 months old. :)
Brooke Shields was born the day after this episode aired.
Loved Arleen, Dorothy & Bennett but Arleen was my favorite.
I just clicked on this to see Joan's fabulous hair.
Me too. But I can't go past Bennett Cerf's witticisms!!
Anthony Newly didn't change his voice AT ALL. And he's supposed to be an actor? Also, I wonder if he had any idea he'd end up being one of 5 husbands that Collins would have.
Fun intro of Bennett by Dorothy. Would love to see these two Watusi! :)
A bit earlier in 1965 on the show, Bennett pronounced it "Watutsi." I hope he could dance it better than he could say it.
Both Arlene and Soupy Sales would later join the panel in the syndicated version of WML.
This is basically a glimpse of the future
Bennett Cerf was one a few episodes in 1969 to 1971.
At 18:18...Joan Collins, what a difference! I think people look better as they age...like fine wine.
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!!😉
Dorothy made an erroneous statement when they were discussing how she guessed the Mystery Guests when she said "He's English and she's not" when in actuality they are both English.
Nah, she was trying to be smarter here, she did that here several times by asking confusing questions !!
Another of the most transitional episodes of WML, though no one at the time knew it. Dorothy would be the past in about seven months. Daly would be history in 2 1/4 years. Arlene is the past, the present, the future. Soupy Sales is the future. And in this broadcast we see why.
What about Bennett?
Did Dorothy pass away 7 months after this episode?
Bennett would be on some of the syndicated episodes from 1969 to March 1971. Then he passed in August 1971
TM Martin Five months and one week. Take a look at what happened.. I won't say any more.
John Daly passed in 1991 !! Hardly within 2 1/4 yrs
Bennett Cerf was eccentric, but he sure was smart. He figured out the trampoline!
He was a riddle master!!
The great 'Edith Keeler'. 🖖🌹 Ms Collins is stunning.
It's worth a laugh searching UA-cam for "Soupy Sales Do The Mouse" to see what Arlene was describing. Can anyone imagine Bennett doing the Watusi? The audience was more rowdy than I've ever heard, between the baby crying, wolf-whistling a male contestant, and the guy who keeps shouting "Bravo!"
J.C.'s hair could have its own zip code!
Such class! Compare this to now.
Joan Collins..... she's still got it....and I think she is almost 90 year's young!
Wow, they were wearing ball-gown attires on a tv show! The first lady introduced spoke very clearly w her comforting voice.
Dame Joan's coiffure is EVERYTHING. #plotzing
It's amazing! I did my hair like that a bit in my teens.
The WIGS, THE WIGS!!
Anthony was Oscar nominated for Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory In a music category
It’s refreshing to hear whistles for a handsome man, Mr Sorensen was a good looking man. I thought whistles were just for celebrities.
I love Joan!!!!
Earth to Bennett: Alligators have four legs.
Soupy asked that.
Is Arlene......well.... slightly tipsy here? lol :-D
Joan Collins is wonderful - a legend 60 years after this was taped....
Joan Collins had 5 husbands. Only her last husband remained married with her for 10 yrs or more.
Joan Collins was a beauty!
Good imagination for Bennett by getting the trampoline. I knew Dorothy was thinking pool table, but some are quite decretive and no trampoline is AFAIK.
Bill Sorenson, the trampoline man, looks like what news anchor Douglas Edwards looked like in the early 1950's.
Wow that hairdo on Joan! But she is still beautiful.
Where on earth did Joan get that wig?
Was Joan ever ugly in her life, damn that's a gorgeous woman ! And is still stunning !
Joan Collins was gorgeous!
Yet another look into the future this episode is.
That snake lady is beautiful.
Soupy Sales’ born name was Milton Supman! 😜 ❤
Handsome trampoline guy got WOLF WHISTLES! That has got to be a first!
poetcomic1. it was probably a prank, john daly makes it a point to welcome "the good folks of iowa, jefferson iowa." the whistles were guys, probably his buddies trying to embarrass him.
To tell the truth
Joe Postove - the exact thought that hit me immediately.
Joan's hair has it's own zip code.
What does Soupy sale? Nothing is mentioned in the info, just curious!
Stage name
I've only just noticed that the young Anthony Newley and the young Monty Python's Terry Jones look almost identical!!!
I think he looks like Joaquin Phoenix
Somehow it doesn't quite seem correct to call Soupy Mr. Sales.
Bennett asks if it's in the alligator family. Alligators have four legs, and that had already been asked at least twice and his being mocked when he suggested a tiger after the first "no" to being four-legged.
This is right before Dorthy Kilgalon was murdered.
John was really long tonight. I wonder if the network cut the show off before all of the credits (or any of them) rolled?
Okay, now I have an answer for where I would go if I could time travel. I would go to New York City 1965 to watch Dorothy Kilgallen and friends dancing "the Watusi", and maybe join in.
Both so beautiful the newly couple i liked them as a boy
Joan's wig is nuts.
Your chin has nuts.
Especially when you're up for promotion, shake & fry guy.
Bennett Cerf had an obsession over asking the question about whether the product has ever been alive. 😜
And Arlene had the obsession of asking "is it a four-legged animal?"
Look at Joan Collins eyes (easy to do) when Dorothy guesses who they are. She is absolutely gobsmacked
There are no poisonous snakes; snakes are venomous.
Tony really didn't disguise his voice.
Joan’s hair!
Oh that poor third contestant. After 15 years they never learned time management?
You like time management?
Shove a self-winding Timex up your ass.
Mr Trampoline was super handsome :-)
Now I know that the source of Joan Collin's inimitable power surely lay in her helmet!
Lol!
Anthony Newley's "just a middle-aged, silent majority, Geritol, rock and roll star."
Why did John quit
Dorothy knew everything.
I love Arlene, Dorothy and Bennett! Did anyone notice that the right side of Arlene's face drooped slightly? You can see it 7:30 through 8:20. I was never a fan of Anthony Newley's singing voice. His vibrato was excruciating on the ear but I suppose it does well on the Broadway stage. For me, he came off as self absorbed when he sang. Sorry.
You are, indeed, sorry.
You SorrySackOfShit.
Why did John and the panel talk so long with the first contestant? Almost two minutes after that John had flipped all the cards. And another peculiar thing is that you can hear a baby babble ca @9:00
Yes, the pacing felt strange to me, too.
Johan Bengtsson What's My Line? To take the most obvious (and easy) explanation; The first contestant was both sophisticated, had an interesting occupation, and was extremly beautiful. ;)
SuperWinterborn And what would the less obvious explanation be? :) "The first contestant was both sophisticated, had an interesting occupation, and was extremly beautiful." You can apply those words on countless of female contestants who never received the same treatment. :)
Johan Bengtsson Ok, but this particular contestant seemed to had caught Daly's attention more than usual. I'm sure, if this was digital recorded, we would have seen John's eyes sparkling, the few times he dared look at her. ;)
SuperWinterborn he hid it well because he virtually ignored her until they guessed her line
if dame joan's wig could talk.
I wonder why the audience is whistling at the second guest... first time I've seen that with a male contestant!
Probably his friends from home that are making fun of him. John mentions something that there is nice to have so many from Jefferson, Iowa in the audience.
He is handsome
Nice little shimmy by Arlene as she walked to her chair...
I do love how they are all obsessed with marriage status.
You might be referring to John always asking: "is it Miss, or Mrs.? This was so the panel would be able to address the females properly.
People didn't address strangers by their first names right away as we do now, so John asked if the woman was Miss or Mrs.
They're not obsessed, rex. They're polite... good-mannered.
Btw, is it Miss or Mrs. Positor?
7:52 A weird whine could be heard.
Dorothy would pass away only 6 months from then.
MiketheYung God Five months and one week.
She is so smart.
Joan Collins is stunning as is her wig.
Mrs Sites from Kentucky is sultry.
I remember Soupy Sales from the 70s. Wow he looks like Gerard Butler here.
2024Joan Collin’s is still alive .
Alexis Colby !
Bennett obviously isn't paying very close attention when the first contestant was on. It was determined that it wasn't a 4 legged animal yet he went on to guess "Tiger" and then guessed "Alligator" after he'd already been chided for guessing "Tiger".
Jeff Vaughn he's a little annoying, is Bennett Serf.
Bennett Cerf though a publisher is basically a jerk
Joan Collins' hairdo... sorry, but I think even Dolly Parton might have suggested dialing back the volume. I think Joan Collins is a gorgeous woman, but boy, I couldn't keep from staring at that massive thing on her head.
The skier is gorgeous! Looks somewhat Like joan Collins with smaller hair.
Also glad to hear from Soupy that Dorothy enjoyed the new dances. Not a square like Bennett.