Who are the Giff? | Playable Race | Spelljammer |D&D
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Chris Perkins, Jeremy Crawford and Todd Kenreck sit down to talk about the Giff in Spelljammer.
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I love how the play test UA Giff was literally just a hippo but bad, and collectively everyone screamed ‘WHERE IS THE GUN?!?!’ so loud that they made it a base part of their race
Do we have final versions of any of these races yet?
@@Adurnis Coming in the Spelljammer book in August.
@@Adurnis not yet, but the early release copies that some streamers get will be coming out in a few weeks for review, so soon. Even if they don’t, Spelljammer is only next month
As. They. SHOULD.
I wonder what they're going to do with Dwarves in the future.
The giff were absolutely modelled on 19th century English adventurers in terms of personality and It is glorious.
They combine the two most terrifying things in existence. 19th century British Colonialism...and Hippos
@@michaelreed7881 Oh god, they’ve teamed up!
DM: "Oh, you're playing a Giff Warlock? Interesting. Who's your patron?"
Player: *cocks gun* "'Murica."
"The looming spectre of British imperialism, good sir!"
Don't forget Saint Smith and Saint Wesson
Brandon: as I read your comment, when I got to "Murica" my brain automatically subbed in an eagle cry.
Truly the American Giff would be amazing. Hahaha
The Twin Gods Smith and Wesson
I think the new Giff is a really good compromise between the classic gun-toting militaristic Giff and the new direction they're going with Spelljammer. I'm excited to play with them!
All it need is new gun mechanic.
I mean we need more fire arms fantasy other than Warhammer Fantasy, which blew up (no pun intended) six years ago.
I now want every city in Spelljammer to have a Little Giff Town.
@@EliteslayerX Sounds of explosions in the background.
Giff Town basically sounds like Spelljammer Tortuga lol
Gonna make an entire crew of Giff, each one an upper-crust, tea swilling, etiquette observing man of good breeding, except for one of them: "Major Bluntt" who's got no manners and likes to shout "Yuh Bast'ud!"
Traditional Giff DO strongly prefer to work among their own kind.
If I ever play a Giff, I will unashamedly name him "Moto-Moto" and he will be a bard
Like 'em big? Like 'em chunky?
I recently played dnd for the first time, and dm'd for friends. Everyone had pretty common races. One of my friends searched up a list online and told me "I'm playing a giff, his name is Moto moto"
Thats the first thing I wanted to do as soon as I discovered them.
There IS very much something satisfying about playing a Theodore Roosevelt-esque shirtless hippo person punching a mind flayer while yelling "BULLY!", and I'm glad ya'll recognize that.
Thanks for giving us Giffs with guns. I think it was a sticking point for everyone.
A Giff without a gun is like a Satyr without a musical instrument.
I'm still annoyed that they had to invent a magical excuse instead of just, "Giff like guns", but here we are.
@@KefkeWren I think it's because they've mostly eliminated racial proficiencies since Tasha's, I think the mystical reason is neat, and we should probably still be able to change it if it's just a race proficiency.
Yes, but when are grung going to be playable in a sourcebook instead of just the amazing unofficial: ONE GRUNG ABOVE?
I remember first seeing these fellas in Mordenkainen's Tome Of Foes and being incredibly intrigued. It's interesting that we're only getting more about them now considering, since the Giff originate from the setting to begin with, it seems like we've been building towards Spelljammer for years now.
I've had a Giff in my campaign setting since Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes released. He has a mysterious past and operates a tavern made out of his old spelljamming ship a Giff Great Bombard. I've been waiting for 5e Spelljammer for YEARS!
Now, I can headshot astral trolls and scream "Giff gud, n00b!"
I don't know why, but I always see them as having an aristocratic british accent...
Aye love. Thwarting baddies, stashin loot, and flogging through the end of our days is the nane of the game. Good on ya ta keep up with Ol' Ironjaw Ignis!
Look at their art from current and older editions. They are basically Age of Sails British Navy the species with a love for firearms and explosions that'll make Michael Bay Blush
Giff : guns are part of my religion
Straight Outta Giffton.
I'm so happy this race is going to be available. I know some folks who aren't into it but the more character variety, the better
In my original Spelljammer universe, my home-brewed Crystal Sphere contained "a" Giff home world with many different nations modeled after 19th Century Europe. If you've seen the movie "55 Days at Peking" (1963), it wouldn't be hard to imagine the different formations of Hippopotamoid troops dressed like British, French, Prussian, and even American Marines during the Boxer Rebellion complete with their marching bands. This the Giff way of life! 🦛
This is truly a Giff from above.
Booooo...but, also yay.
Do they actually have proficiency in guns that would be awsome. Gun cleric? Gunpowder domain?
I’m a healer but *cocks gun*
That would be the Forge Cleric my good sir.
@@capy-karma186 this is mind blowing information
GUN KATTA! ;) Anyone who is a fan of "Equilibrium" will get it, and the idea of a Giff monk carrying in dozens of pistols, is a hoot, lol :)
Gun devil? ⛓️🪚
Giff vs Gith, I'm sure that won't be a problem to non-native English speakers at all.
There quite a few East Londoners that will have a bit of trouble as well!
I think I’m going to pronounce the Giff like the peanut butter brand. That way, it will be easier to keep track. Plus I just imagine a Giff munching on a celery stick covered in peanut butter. 😆
@@toze2145 That's why they're called giffyankees, innit?
@@jdsmith112363 Githyanki, and Githzerai (think I spelled it right). Are both of the Gith race. "Gith" is the generalization.
Hence I like the "Jiff" pronunciation more
I remember the first time i came across the Giff in game. it was a random encounter where three of them attacked the party at the tavern they owned. A couple of party members were away so when they returned we had to try explaining what happened. the Barbarian said 'well, they threw some sort of pineapple that exploded!.'
When Chris appeared to discuss Giff I couldn't help but remember the fair commodore once again. I loved Warrington Munt so much.
So we’ve got the elephant people, cat people, lion people (unrelated to the cat people), owl people, rabbit people, eagle people, crow people, lizard people, cow people, turtle people, snake people, fish people, frog people (grung), and now hippo people. I kinda see a pattern here ;)
Always has been. ^^
After playing a loxodon monk for so long I am now salivating at the thought to play a hippo
I've always thought of the Giff as the cuddly version of a nineteenth century Boer War British soldier.
I can't believe they actually gave them a weapon proficiency. Glad to know they haven't completely abandoned that.
I think the Astral Spark is a nice compromise for how you can bring in Legacy cultural trait.
@@daviddalrymple2284 I think abandoning the idea that races aren't allowed to have a culture and just accepting that there's already options for swapping traits out would be a better compromise.
Hippos on the moon.... something about their harpoons.
I’m actually planning to play a DND game using a Giff character who’s entirely based on a British adventurer British accent, gentlemanly and all who’s a exile from his home because he loves hunting people particularly criminals to taxidermy and make into trophies, I’m excited to see what I can do with it and see how he can grow haha
I love that you're bringing these back and they're really fun and we've been making some in hero forge but the part where you say hippos are swimming around in the water is kind of really wrong. Hippos can't swim. Only the babies can. Hippos packing so much muscle that what they do is actually kind of more amazing; they basically run through the water like a water horse and it gets out of the way if it knows what's good for it. They actually leave trails in the bottoms of rivers. That's why they can't live in really deep water only a certain level.
I have a Giff character named Jamie Jenkins. His catchphrase is "Jamie's got a gun!"
Literally DnD version of Peter Potamus.
I’m waiting for the Giff bard that does Gilbert and Sullivan style patter songs.
Hearing them talked about as just big hippo people, and a designer actually saying "there's no deep layers there" fills me with despair for 5e. They say they wanted to drill into what distinguished the Giff other than "they look like hippos", but that's _exactly_ how they made them - big hippo man who is big, and also a hippo. When you strip away the cultural elements of these races, when you take away the strange and the quirky to leave behind "broad-shouldered hippo person", you're losing a big part of what makes the game interesting. Sure, not all members of a race are going to represent the default culture, but that's something best left to subraces and player choice. The original Giff weren't just "hippo people", they were this funhouse mirror look at old fashioned British machismo with a love of guns and explosives, travelling the endless expanse to new worlds in search of adventure and glory, and even if you were going to rebel against that image, it still helps to know what the character is rebelling against, and to think about which cultural norms they embrace, which they follow or subvert without thinking, and which they actively reject. Knowing the "normal" culture for a race, what they're most often like, can help to make a character that's a _person,_ with actual reasons why they are the way they are.
...but no. The Giff aren't allowed to have a culture. When people complained that the Giff lost their uniqueness, the design team had to find an _excuse_ to give an aspect of it back to them. They have to have magic - an "astral spark" to make them interesting for _what_ they are, rather than who. They can't be good with firearms because they come from a culture that promotes skill with firearms, it has to be passed on to them from a forgotten god. It has to be a magical power that makes them good with them. Never mind that the Giff were originally one of the few races besides Dwarves that were fundamentally incompatible with magic, and that this could have been played into as a reason that they would develop technology instead. No, giving them a cultural reason for anything was never an option. The only way they are allowed to have a trait is if it's an obvious physical characteristic, or it's magic.
I'm frankly beyond disappointed in WotC.
I love these videos. I wish Chris and Jeremy were interviewed together though. It's a bit jarring otherwise.
Oracle of ages/seasons immediately came to mind when I saw these
Forget it Jake, it's Giff-Town.
Imma rename and reskin Giff Town at my table to he Giffypop.
Okay...your first Giff character's firearm is named _______. And go!
My brain immediately goes to Matilda.
There is no better name for a weapon than Mathilda! ♥
These weird hippos are very interesting to me for some reason
I’m enjoying these quick-dives into Spelljammer. I always thought the Giff looked stupid & didn’t have much interest in them, but this video has grabbed my interest a bit more in them. :) Excited for more!
So "Weapons are part of my religion"
This is the Way.
I had this idea for a mini campaign.
Where the players are trying to stop a Civil War with the Giff.
And the thing is the reason for the war is simply how are they pronounced.
Giff?
Or
Jiff?
The Jiff love peanut butter
A god of firearms you say. Could this be a new cleric domain?
War, Knowledge, and maybe forge could all fit the bill.
@@videogollumer The joke I was trying to make involved getting people to imagine a dedicated Gun Domain Cleric. But yes, if we were going to treat this idea seriously, then a War Domain Cleric with a feat that grants them proficiency with firearms would probably be the best way to make them. I will name this character Father Francis Harold Callahan, Saint of the Hand Cannon. His god is Justice, LN
The Giff really put the "big game" in big game hunter.
Giffs are often found in close proximity to Jaypegs, Bimps and Peengees.
The Jiff use Juns.
Ah yes, the gift of the giff god of guns.
Thank you Todd. I adore the Gift, looking forward to officially being able to play one.
All Giff need to where Piff helmets
say it with me people HIPPOS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SWIM.
"Walking underwater" is an unnecessary additional rule. Swim speed works perfectly well for abstracting the experience
@@DoinItforNewCommTech then just don't give them a swim speed like 90% of other playable races.
Ignoring the fact the density factor, which has been in dnd before. Plenty of races, lime dwarves. Use to just be biologically incapable of swiming. What part of "this species cannot swim" when translated to 5e somehow magically become bonus swim speed?
@@NoESanity should have given them ability to hold breath like a tortle instead, and hour should be plenty enough to walk across the bottom of any river.
Can't wait to play a Giff with what I call the Nigel Thornberry British accent. "Talley-ho!"
Good if short video. I think the Giff from second edition [converted to pathfinder using 3.5 rules] are great, probably still are. I'm just not fond of 5th ed.
Same here! Still at 2nd ed. Next week I'll gather a bunch of friends for one more chapter of Realmspace.5th ed? Nah!
I just see the Umpani from the Wizardry VII and VIII CRPGs, sans horn. Anybody feel like doing a supplement?
Guns don't kill people, Giffs do.
All the Giff down in Gifftown loved boomsticks a lot...
Hmm, clearly their god is Zardoz! "The gun is good!"
If I’m ever a Giff I’d have to be named Gloria
Omg. Chris Perkins. First thing I think of when Spelljammer is mentioned is the Nautaloid, shell shaped, illithid ship. Giff are second or third.
Maybe it was my DM, but I knew to fear the Illithid.
I learned the hard way not to dump Intelligence because of them...
im so mad the books are out but the minis dont get released until november. im ready to play dangit
Thanks.
Just a random, true fact regardomg hippos. They actually can't swim. They can hold their breathes for a long time, relatively, and because of bouancy they sink to the bottom of their rivers and run and scary speeds in the water.
Judoon energy
Finally. I can be motto motto from Madagascar.
YES
SO EXCITED FOR THE GIFF!!!
Going to make Giff siblings running the shop "Good, Bad and the Ugly"
Yup, im playing a hippo now
I'm looking forward to playing a giff drug runner named Pablo
Very true, we do love our animal people. So where are our (Lupins) dog people, we want our "good boys" and "good girls".
Last citadel has a pretty decent candid PC type
not exactly dogs BUTTTTTTTTTTT i did make a wolf folk
To round out the list of canine races, I have a foxfolk race called Viximera. I have to update them to Tasha’s style ability score bonuses but they are mostly magic themed
Probably saving them for Mystara, but I agree, dog people would be fun and popular.
They need to make Kamigawa Neon Dynasty their next Magic the Gathering book: we could have kitsune, that way
Some people want dog-folk, others (myself included) want bear people.
Civil Wars have been fought over Giff or Jiff.
For non-English speakers Jiff is much better, way less likely to be mistaken with Gith.
Not to be confused with the .Gif
I didn't say it, your brain did.
Make Bear folk plz
oh I don't know about that. they are WAY too grizzly!
Giff grappler ala Kingpin
Giff town sounds like Texas XD
Could someone please tell me where I can get the posters that are seen on the walls In the background during the opening interview With Jeremy Crawford?
I have a question. Can a make a giff into a robot of some kind?
Dammit, they instantly made the obvious joke.
Who of you would also like to flood the ofizellen DnD Twitter account with gifs about Giff after this video?
Any word of the Scro?
Ahh yes, America sending human-animal hybrids to find a new home for humans
Amongst the Giff, is "Gorgeous" a common name?
Hippos, but if they were American teens.
Special ability: Gunpowder crazy, If a Giff, uses a melee attack and rolls below 10, he will forego all reason and choose to fire his gun at pointblank. Because "why would I smack 'em with a puny piece of metal, when I could blast 'em to smithereens instead!" This ofcourse being the natural balance of things to make up for them having guns!
Is Giff Town near Flavor Town?
Now, How do we Get the guns?????
I would play a giff fighter
But...Hippos don't swim.
Gifftopia?
Doesn't their having advantage on all strength checks and saves and powerful build kinda devalue other strength based races like Goliaths, Orcs and Bugbears?
Yeah kinda but i see it as they arnt on the forgotten realms so if your not in wildspace they dont get used meaning others are still important. But this is just how i play it
They're sprinters where the Powerful Build family are marathoners.
Advantage is good for yeet checks and keeping your feet.
Push, drag, lift, and carrying capacity have constant hard numbers. Big numbers, if you have Powerful Build.
Hippos: one of the few animals that are completely incapable of swimming
Giff: are based on hippos
Also Giff: have bonuses to swimming
WRONG! They're excellent swimmers, they just can't float, so they swim along the bottom.
@@solaries3 Not true, swimming means you're moving by propelling yourself through the water. Hippos do not do that. They are so dense that they sink to the bottom, where they then run along the bottom. By your logic, a crab is swimming when it crawls along the bottom.
@@zoroearc2582 How would you gameify "running underwater" in 5e mechanics? With a swim speed.
@@DoinItforNewCommTech From the Drowned in Ghosts of Saltmarsh:
Bottom Treader: The drowned cannot swim, and it sinks to the bottom of any body of water. It takes no penalties to its movement or attacks underwater. It is immune to the effects of being underwater at a depth greater than 100 feet.
@@zoroearc2582 Drowned are monsters. That's OP for a playable race. "Oh yeah I'll just walk to the bottom of the Netherdeep, finish the adventure in 5 mins, nbd"
The giff? They are image people spelled wrong lol. Sorry, had to make the joke.
Damage Dealer. Like a hippopotamus in a crystal wareshop, you are naturally adept at damaging things. When you roll a 1 on a damage die for a melee attack, you can reroll the die and use the new roll. You can do so no more than once per turn.
He mentioned the giffs damage move was for guns... it's not it's for melee attacks.
UA was melee only - sounds like they might have switched it up.
It was obviously changed and no longer matches the UA.
Now WotC are really contradicting themselves. First, they remove all weapon and armor proficiencies from the races in MoM, and now they talk about a "mystical ability" of the Giff for firearms?
"Guns are my religion".
Hippos don't swim. I'll be very disappointed if giff have a swim speed.
Just use "swim" as flavor text. They are actually just running underwater, pirates of the Caribbean style. (Makes less sense in deeper bodies of water, but if it comes there for you that is up to you on how to solve it)
Remember, it's pronounced Giff, not Giff.
5e is for furries. I love it
Where are the dogpeople? There are 2 different varieties of catpeople, there are 3 varieties of birdpeople, 2 varieties of dragonpeople, there are lizardpeople, there are snakepeople, there are frogpeople, there are fishpeople, there are elephantpeople, there are hippopeople, but where are my dogpeople?
they saw a squirrel and chased after it
well, ignoring shifters and werewolves there are the Khenra, who have jackle heads.
you want some wolves/dogs. come to me
why did you do away with Phlogiston was it because of the fire hazard , To me that was one of the most important part of spelljamming way astral that is more planner shifting . I would like to know why the change
it doesn't fit in the 5e cosmology. chris or jerremy talked about it some time ago
It started with 4E
Wizards doesn't like crystal spheres or at least believes the player base doesn't stretching back from the old surveys
@@sylvnfox Did they say how it didn't fit?
If I was a wizard flying a Spelljammer and I couldn't use my best spell against an Astral Dreadnought... I'll be honest, I wouldn't want to go there. Environmental hazards are best when you can prepare for them--I can bring warm clothes to the mountains, in the phlogiston I'm just nerfed. Flat out nerfed.
It would be best as *a* feature in the Astral Sea, not the *only* feature--you see a cloud of phlogiston off the port bow, so you steer the spelljammer around it.
@@Millstone1985 they said they are useing the astral sea modle and since it serves the same mechanic i guess they thought why have 2 things that vertualy do the same thing?
Finally, the American race