Thoughts on the Office REBOOT
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- All sorts of news and posts and threads and X tweets and articles and now videos based on today's announcements that Peacock is rebooting the Office.
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If anyone's interested, I did a livestream a while back with Brent Forrester (Office writer/producer) and 10K Bill about ideas we had for potential Office Spin-Offs. ua-cam.com/users/live5Qz_b2VmCvo?feature=share
They should bring creed back. He should change his identity and try to fit in with the new generation But the camera crew know it’s creed.
He steals the identity of a office alum, “Hi my names Oscar. Oscar Martinez…….. I was adopted by a lovely Mexican couple.. Made the best tacos..”
@@josephjoestar1681 Yes! This is Genius!
Yes. A creed show is the avenue forward
THIS ALL THE WAY!!!!
If people thought season 9 was soulless, oooh just wait for this one!
Good one
I find hilarious when people say that a show like the Office wouldn't/couldn't be remade because of changing sensibilities, when the Office has experience ongoing popularity. Arguably, it's even more popular now than it was when it originally aired. And that's what matters to the producers of any potential reboot/remake.
But a "new Office" can't just be a retread of the original show. For one, that's not what they're reporting it's going to be. It's a show that will be set in "the Office universe." Secondly, it'll be hard to capture the same magic with having different actors play similar characters. But Greg Daniels managed to take an existing show and reboot it with a new spin, once already. He might be able to do it again.
Then, what are you arguments against 'those people' who say it will not work?
If they reboot it, then they'll need to remember the security password to log back in afterward. Without Kevin working there, none of them will be able to guess it correctly. So I'm wary of how this will go.
With Greg Daniels at the head, I have some solid faith in this reboot. Fingers crossed it lives up to the original series.🤞🏻
I tend to agree, but I have reservations (like some questionable stuff in The Office S9, Space Force and Upload)
That’s true that the last season was a bit of a dud, but the finale was so good it almost made up for it, at least to me. Enjoy your office content and can’t wait to see future uploads!
And Mr gervais!
Good Lord, IS NOTHING SACRED?!
This isn't a reboot though, is it? My understanding is that it's a completely different show that exists in the same universe as The Office. So, like Parks and Rec (with the addition of The Office camera crew). That's not a reboot at all. Unless I've got it wrong? Daniels and Co. might be exaggerating links to The Office because they know that's the best way to make sure this show is a go.
Yes. You are right. “Office Reboot” just got them ample press
Marketing, yeah
This is NOT a reboot. Reboot means it’s the same characters, same story. This would be a sequel.
I just hope there's an uncle Stanley cameo and he's asking the new cast for money
Twist ending: Mulverine is actually the producer of the show! He got it made so he could continue his field guides.
I have watched all of your videos on the office and im excited to catch a brand new one 1 minute after it’s released. One of the greatest shows of all time filled with iconic characters and quotes. I appreciate the work you have put into this instant classic.
As long as it isn't like season 9 of the office. Hated how Greg ruined Andy's character and ruined the relationship with Erin as well in season 9. I don't mind it if he fixed it in the finale but he didn't.
short answer = no
long answer = NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOD PLEASE NO! NO!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(not all of us continue to rewatch seasons 8 and 9)
I'm really concerned because every other reboot so far has been mediocre. Even shows like That 90s Show forced Cameo's of characters from the original show and it just felt awkward.
A vid on the other localizations of the series would be perfect! I've watched the UK and US pilots side by side too many times, and the differences aren't in any of the places I would have expected. It would be cool to see how other countries define approaching the line without crossing it!
I welcome it. If it fails oh well if it doesn’t than yeah more things to watch!
It would split the fandom in half then lol
@@trueblade3636 I’m ready to get hurt like the great Michael Scott once said! 😂
The biggest problem with the reboot is not necessarily the comedy, but whether the show can recapture the "seriousness" tone the first three seasons had very well established. In short, I hope the "Stress Relief" effect isn't in full force on the rebooot.
Agree
The sense they were all facing life together even if they disagreed at some turns makes the earlier seasons so much less stressful to watch. I don't know if it's due to the higher-stakes conflicts, but the show definitely had more humanity.
Wow. I hadn't heard about the possible spin-off of The Farm. That would have been awesome. Was Rainn not interested?
The backdoor pilot flopped. That episode was one of the worst rated of the season at the time and NBC decided not to order the spin-off
@@KyleDavis328honestly it’s such a shame cause Mose is one of my favorite background? characters and I would have loved to see him more. This is wishful thinking but I would love to see them use The Farm concept but use it as skit mini series for UA-cam. Like just five or six minute episodes of Mose just causing chaos for Dwight and Angela would honestly fuck so hard.
I think calling whatever this new show is 'The Office' is just guaranteeing failure. I legit feel bad for whoever is cast because they will get nonstop online grief until the show is cancelled in season 1. Another Shure-verse show, absolutely. But an Office reboot? Dear god, no. Unless this is one of those things where Universal will make more money by filming and shelving this and taking the tax write off - this is a bad idea.
I really never got the claims that The Office would NEVER BE ALLOWED TO AIR TODAY. Like yes, there were offensive jokes throughout the entire run. But the show was also astutely aware that the ridiculous things its characters said were, just that, ridiculous. I really don't see why it couldn't be made today.
Anyhoo, personally hoping for a completely new business and new cast, just with the same sense of humor and drama as The Office. As great as Parks and Rec is, it's also far sillier and more out there imo.
Its not that ridiculous. The office has had to edit things out of the peacock episodes (black Peter for example in Pennsylvania Dutch Christmas). Its always sunny has had to do it a lot more, or remove episodes altogether (basically any time Dee dresses up as her racially charged characters) I don’t agree with the changing- but don’t be surprised if it happens with other shows that were once considered irreverent and funny.
No way. The point is that in this 'over sensitive world' is that the same edgy jokes and situations are not gonna be featured
I'm actually really excited for this one. I know going in it won't be as good as The Office US but the premise of the show alone is just too good.
If it’s a real reboot, it will be a disaster. Any character even doing a Michael impersonation will fail. But if it’s wholly different with similar themes + talented writers and actors like Parks and Rec, it’s got a chance!
The only thing that the reboot has going for it is it shuts down this stupid argument:
"the office would never be allowed to air today."
"They are rebooting the office."
"... Safe space..."
Do you genuinely believe that an office reboot released today would be just as edgy and touchy subjects as the original?
@@hunkyhank1634 Yes, grow up.
@@HakuYuki001 you obviously haven’t been paying attention to any recent media. Also, why do you go directly to ad hominem attacks instead of discussing the subject of the comment? Is it because you are woefully ignorant on the topic and are unsure of your own intelligence?
See, the dumb part about this is that we are collectively so brain-poisoned by never ending culture wars that we all get shoehorned into dichotomic sound-bites on what are fairly nuanced topics. It is very convenient that we all get obsessed with "haha Michael said funny non-PC thing, it couldn't happen today amirite?", and for example ignore how the show's commentary on work and corporate structures got duller and duller even during what is recognised as the show's peak years, or how Jim had to be slowly changed from a slacker to the all-American go-getting baby-face he was in the latter years.
Buuut I wouldn't be surprised if they make it extra-edgy just to make a point, mess with the audience's expectation and go for a few cheap outrage clicks. With Ricky G onboard I wouldn't be surprised if the writing process goes a bit like "The BoJack Horseman Show". Opening scene, Michael screams "WASSAP BITCCCCHES" and takes a dump on Pam's painting. It might actually be funnier than a big chunk of season 9 to be honest.
It's going to be way harder than when they rebooted it the first time. The first one is almost like "hey what if we did The Office again but 20 episodes a season and we can develop a dozen characters and learn a tone more about what they get up to outside etc. But now they're basically doing that again, only they already showed us Tim and Dawn's life story in the US version with Pam and Jim. We've seen David and Gareth grow up and become more empathetic caring people with Michael and Dwight. The new one is just going to be a pallet swap of the original US version. Get a new wacky boss, some new wacky workers. Only they're probably going to make that mistake where they make them the peak season 5 versions of themselves immediately instead of getting to watch them all find their characters and grow.
Good point bro
6:52 it’s an interesting point. I watched the first 3 seasons live, and of course am older so I bet the kids watching it now kinda have a whole different experience of the office. I would never have guessed at the time it would become so popular. Nobody watched it back then, just me and my weird friend Jill 😂
I like this idea about as much as Michael would like Toby at his birthday party
There are other mockumentary shows out there - Abbot Elementary comes to mind - but "The Office" does not work without Steve Carell, in my opinion. Yeah, I am one of those people. Once he left, the show died a slow and painful death. If this new show is going to go for a similar feel, then I just don't know.
If the comedy is edgy and unafraid of wokeness and doesn’t try to replace each character with a spoof character and Daniels, Shur, and Gervais are in charge, it could work
I would say even calling this new show a "soft reboot" may be a stretch. With all new characters, they need to be careful that some just don't end up being caricatures of the U.S. version. Like, "Hey this guy is super goofy, he's the new Michael! This one is grumpy, so he's like Stanley!!" I'm a big fan of The Office, yet I find myself curious, but not stoked for this. Also, I would be surprised if they find a believable way to get cameos. It doesn't take place in Scranton, so maybe a convention of multiple companies and Dunder Miflin happens to be one of them in attendance?
honestly think the hardest part will be getting people on board with the show for good. they might get high viewership from curios office fans but the modern climate of tv really leaves no room for mistakes or trials. both audiences & networks just don't care to commit. if this doesn't turn out to be a magnum opus from the pilot I don't think this show will even have a chance to find its footing the way the original office did, and it'll be another blip in the timeline.
Reboot or revival? You guys need to learn the difference.
And the best bit is is that it’s a spin off
I think the reboot will try and have the same tone as the original Office US like they're gonna try and take elements from the original and apply it to the new one but along the way they'll create something that's an entirely different beast just like how the Office US tried to copy the Office UK in it's first episode
I like it cause I read my local paper every single day.
I do hope they keep it in the same universe
Random idea: I think you should do a video on the history of "thats what she said". I don't know why, but it's always bothered me that most people think it originated on the Office.
Think I covered it in the Secual Harrassment field guide in S2
@@Mulverine I guess I'm a bad Channel fan then. My bad.
Im optimistic except for one thing. I only think that the concept and tone of the show works with steve carrel. Idk if it works without him at all
In my opinion, it didn't. Hence why it only lasted 2 more season without him.
Has nobody learned the harsh lessons of Baywatch Hawaii?
I have two things to say: First, considering the fact that the U.S. Office was already a reboot of the U.K. Office, we at least owe Daniels and Gervais and chance.
Second: to the people who say that we are too culturally sensitive, here are already two long running shows that pushed boundaries much further than the office did and those are family guy and South Park.
Those examples aren't really good.
Family Guy & South Park are too big and have to big of a fanbase. Doesn't matter what they do, people will like it.
Also, Family Guy is nowadays just: 'haha abuse lol funny cut away'
South Park isn't that much crossing the boundaries anymore. It feels like the creators are really tired.
@@trueblade3636 I mean there are other big differences as well such as the costs and budgeting benefits of animation vs live action. That said, had the actors wanted it, the show could have gone on for several more seasons, and I am not even counting Steve Carrell.
As for Family Guy, that kind of just proves my point. Even with the decline in quality and the fact that it is owned by a totally different company, it is still allowed to get away with doing ridiculous things.
And while South Park has not been as edgy as it once was, they did introduce a few iconic things into the mainstream in recent years such as the Panderverse.
@@henrypeters5291 Family Guy is a ongoing animation serie with a dedicated fanbase.
The Office stopped, has variation in their fanbase, is a sitcom with people, and is a big I.P.
There will be a huge backlash in the mainstream media if the Office is gonna be edgy. It think that that's why they are going to play it safe.
However, Ricky Gervais is not afraid to be edgy, so maybe The Office will be good and not afraid to go over the line
I'm not American so forgive me for my lack of American geography. Is it possible that Michael could be the new manager of the newspaper company? As he may have moved there after his run at Dunder Mifflin.
Everyone freaking was so predictable. We'll see. Guess Ill start that rewatch sooner than later! Love to see 10K get some love. He's how I was introduced to you.
I have very low expectations.
Corporate take-over and digitisation of local newspapers were already in full force during the Office's original run. There is no way Comcast will let anything other than very superficial or tone-death commentary on that point. The Office worked as a satire of that precisely because Dunder-Mifflin and the paper industry were seen as low-stake parallels. I expect ten-year old jokes about "pivot to video" to be the edgiest things about this reboot.
That’s a really good point
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! This will only be bad.
You’ll ruin it - Michael Scott voice
They need to get BJ Novak and Paul Liberstein to write, they were the soul of the original show, in s9 without them it was not the same.
Considering Mindy Kaling's latest shows and comments about The Office, she is out, but would love to see the other two come back.
They had nothing to do with the original show
It would have to change the timescale. Like, you have to set it now for the show’s basic ideas of realism and commentary to work. There’s not really a point in telling new stories about 2005, 6, etc to a modern audience who could just watch the original for insights to that time. Season 1 was a show about 2005, a reboot if it dropped today would need to be a show about 2024.
No. Please god no. No. NOOOOOO!!! This said, I still want the Shrutt Farm spinoff.
“The Office” is an idea bigger than one cast in the same sense as Star Trek. It just hasn’t expanded like that franchise yet.
Using that example, I hope they take the TNG approach of very minimal cameos
Just make a hour long special about where everyone is now
It worked before
Well, I’m never going to subscribe to peacock so I’ll be waiting for the clips on UA-cam
The Office reboot may not work today, but its failure would have nothing to do with political correctness. The Office still works in today's culture, despite societal changes since its creation. Not to mention the fact that many shows still airing today push the envelope way harder than The Office did
It commonly resonates with teenagers who streamed it years after it ended, so it’s definitely still relevant
Right, the real issue however is that there will likely be a completely new cast.
@@Bretkane exactly, recasting is the real hard part of selling it, as well as of course good writing. If they choose to handle more modern topics I worry they could show the datedness of some of their sensibilities more than they did back then. I have cautious hope tho
You are correct. However, I do think that it will be also the political correctness
Job security baby...!
Short answer: not if it's made pc/woke.
You said Michael was the joke. But in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, the characters are the joke for being insensitive, but some episodes have been banned anyways because for the mob today, there's no difference.
Not at all. It won't have the inappropriate cringe we need. It'll just be cringy
I wouldn’t get hung up about the “political correctness”. The comedy was about the idiocy in how someone foolish handled it - which is a bit meta, but evergreen. Can be done in any era.
I just hope its not going to be too sensitive with humor because again the era back then was different compared to now with everyone having a problem with what is said.
#sixseasonsandfieldguide
OMG YESSSSSS!!!!!)! YESSSSSSSS
No.
There is a reboot in that there is a English and American Version. The British one was not as good. It depends will we keep cast members or have new ones or a combination of old and new characters. I have got to the point i can no longer watch the show. Along with Big Bang theory and Seinfeld that are competing for the Guinness record for most episodes aired in the year.
I feel like the “woke” crowd would appreciate Michael exposing his own ignorance. The joke is never on the other person- the joke is always on Michael’s inappropriate behavior and his lack of awareness. That is one of the reasons the China episode was great, suddenly Michael is well educated and passionate about a topic and “beats the smartest guy in the office”. It’s hilarious because it’s the first time Michael has any insight into something he is commenting on and it surprises everyone in the office.
Neither of them had any actual insights, that's what made it so great!
I mean I’m woke af and I don’t think Michael’s ignorance is a problem at all, it’s clearly portrayed as a personality flaw in a funny way. If the show portrayed his ignorance as though it was *correct* or somehow fine & not a flaw at all then I’d have an issue with it-but it doesn’t
No way. The point is that in this 'over sensitive world' is that what you gonna do, the 'woke' people are gonna be mad, even if it is implied that the main character is wrong. Even nowadays, some people are mad of for example S1E2.
I mean, I guess I'm what anti woke people would call "woke" and The Office is one of my favorite shows. It has some doubtful moments like every sitcoms but most of it is indeed making fun of Michael's ignorance. In fact its pretty ahead of its time for a lot of stuff
@@trueblade3636 You're utterly full of it.
No it can’t work. They shouldn’t be even thinking about doing this. I’m boycotting it completely.
ye u show em I bet they really scared now
@@gabrielcardoso5975 you’re an absolute loser 🤣
5:35 you are wrong. You don't get the point.
The point is that in this 'over sensitive world' is that the same edgy jokes and situations are not gonna be featured. The point is that in this 'over sensitive world' is that what you gonna do, the 'woke' people are gonna be mad, even if it is implied that the main character is wrong. Even nowadays, some people are mad of, for example S1E2. So they are gonna play it too safe and maybe even pander those kind of 'woke over sensitive' people.
Reboot is probably not gonna work (even if it is a 'real reboot' like you said).
Edit: look at other famous examples. Stars Wars, Marvel, Terminator, Scream, Exorcist, etc. They are all 'woke' and play it safe.
I don't think this reboot news is real. It's just clout chasing that someone made for attention.
Nope.
People still work in offices?
Depends on the company.
The Office is my favorite TV show, and I have watched all the episodes at least four times. It never gets old; they are hilarious.
Can a Seinfeld reboot work without Jerry, George, Elaine and Kramer? No? Well neither could a Office reboot. This is a garbage nostalgic idea.
Fair point
I think calling this a “reboot” is already killing the project. It’s not a reboot if it’s a new company of people in a new location and is timeline wise after the events of The Office. It’s a sequel. In fact it’s just their own story now.
@@TheAndrewJohnBennett I think it is just for marketing purposes
a reboot could work but only with the same edgy humor thatt the "woke kids" don't like but anyone else loves cause a joke is a joke! could be like that they are all old but do the same pranks etc and somehow all work together of course!
No a reboot won't work. Steve Carell is THE office. But I'll still watch this new train wreck 😂
So long story short, it can maybe work out. There. Saved you 10 minutes.
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Just wait for the reboot to be filled with politics, DEI, Social Justice, etc and etc...
It's going to flop..lets be honest
Already looks woke to me.
I’m sorry man but you’re giving society today too much benefit of the doubt. The office was always irreverent but people weren’t so abrasively sensitive. Imagine a joke where instead of outing Oscar as gay Michael is misgendering someone…
20s ago 0 comments…bro fell off
I honestly hope they do NOT do the reboot. I really liked the ending and think it should be left at that.