Will AI Music Make It Into Your Playlist? Have You Even Checked Out Suno or Udio
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Exploring the World of AI Music Creation: Suno and Udio
In recent years, the landscape of music production has been significantly transformed by the advent of AI music creation tools. These innovative technologies leverage artificial intelligence to assist musicians and producers in generating unique compositions. Among the leading platforms in this domain are Suno AI music and Udio AI music. These AI music websites are at the forefront of a revolution, making music generation AI accessible to both amateurs and professionals alike.
Understanding AI Music Tools
AI music tools are designed to simplify the process of creating music. They use advanced algorithms to compose melodies, harmonies, and even entire arrangements. Platforms like Suno and Udio offer AI music software that enables users to experiment with music in ways that were previously unimaginable.
Suno AI Music: A New Frontier
Suno AI music stands out for its user-friendly interface and powerful capabilities. It’s considered one of the best AI music tools available today. With the Suno music generator, users can create intricate compositions with just a few clicks. Whether you're looking to produce a simple tune or an elaborate piece, Suno provides the tools to make it happen. The platform also offers AI music tutorials to help users get started and maximize their creative potential.
Suno AI review feedback highlights its effectiveness in generating high-quality music, making it a favorite among many in the industry.
Udio AI Music: Innovation in Music Making
Similarly, Udio AI music is making waves with its innovative approach to music creation. The Udio music generator allows users to craft unique sounds effortlessly. It’s particularly praised for its versatility and the quality of its outputs. Udio AI review comments often emphasize how the platform’s AI-driven approach helps in AI music production, catering to various genres and styles.
The Future of AI in Music
The integration of artificial intelligence music technology is rapidly transforming the music industry. These advancements are not just limited to music creation but extend to areas like sound engineering and production. Music AI technology is pushing the boundaries of what’s possible, leading to exciting new AI music trends.
As more artists and producers adopt these tools, the future of AI in music looks promising. Innovations in AI music making are enabling creators to explore new sonic landscapes and redefine the music production process.
How to Create Music with AI
For those interested in diving into this world, learning how to create music with AI is simpler than it seems. Platforms like Suno and Udio provide comprehensive resources and guides. AI music tutorials offered by these platforms can help beginners and experienced musicians alike to harness the power of AI for their creative projects.
The Impact on the Music Industry
The incorporation of AI in the music industry is not just a passing trend but a significant shift towards more efficient and creative production methods. Music production with AI is becoming a standard practice, helping artists to generate new ideas and streamline their workflow.
AI Generated Music: A New Era
AI generated music is opening up new avenues for artistic expression. It allows for the creation of complex musical pieces that might be challenging to compose manually. This technology is democratizing music production, making high-quality tools available to a broader audience.
In conclusion, the rise of platforms like Suno and Udio marks a significant milestone in the evolution of music production. These AI music websites and tools are not only enhancing the way music is created but also shaping the future of the industry. As we continue to explore the potential of AI music innovation, it’s clear that artificial intelligence will play an increasingly central role in the world of music.
I know this video isn’t meant for me as a musician, but what I’d be more interested in is AI tools that help me find the tones and and patches that I can hear in my head but maybe I don’t know how to dial in when working with plugins in my DAW. I still want 100% autonomy in what I create and how I structure a song, but tools that help me to achieve unique sounds are always welcome.
57 year old pure listener here. I'm "old" but my musical tastes never aged and I am always looking for new, fresh, complex, thought provoking, emotion evoking music. 10 years ago I played with Magix to remix and stack some loops for fun, put a few songs on SoundCloud. Then I got bored and never went back to it. But it was impressive how awesome those few songs sounded to my untrained ear. Fast forward to the AI era. Last week I discovered Udio and some pre-made songs there that I really enjoyed. Frankly I can't and don't believe they were not made by humans. But then I think back to my Magix experience and wow, if AI-assisted humans really did make those songs then I think it's interesting. I was surprised how well the lyrics grasped sarcasm, and the music itself was complex and varied, and decent enough sound quality for me to enjoy. I was humming the song for a while afterward. (I listen to loud distorted heavy metal, so who cares about high def?) The thought of subscribing to Udio fascinated me for a while. But then the important thought hit me. I do not, and never did, have the love of music creation in my heart. I have been given the gift of a good ear and I can enjoy listening to the best music, but like Salieri in the the movie Amadeus, I will never create genius-level music no matter what tools are available, I can only know it when I hear it. If you love making music, it will show, and I will notice. I think if you go ahead and use AI tools you will make much more awesome music than I ever could. I cannot solve the problems of copyright and fair compensation in the streaming and AI era, but I have always obtained and listened to my music legally and even signed up on some creators Patreon because I want to support artists that give me so much joy.
As a musician I was pretty impressed with Suno I had it write a hardcore metalcore song with lyrics I provided and it even timed my Blegh during a breakdown! The fact it knew how to pronounce Blegh and where to place it was crazy! Did not pronounce ARF ARF well though, so it's not writing any Knocked Loose! It was decent, I think this can be used way more for beats and melodies. I can see people using this for writing and inspiration. Right now I think this content of AI songs due to user agreements can't be monetized. But sorta scary stuff...
Tonight I generated ten trap beats and ten neocassical solo piano tracks, while sipping bourbon and watchng youtube videos. Now I need to go back and turn these audio files into complete the arrangements. There is still work to be done, but I will turn this hour or so of initial effort into two complete albums in a much shorter time than before these tools existed. Crazy times!
As someone who does not earn a living from creating music but who is nevertheless a deeply committed listener with a pretty decent knowledge of music (and has written some music here and there), I am excited about AI. Like you said, it's fun to create little novelty songs for friends.
I don't believe most people will care, in the end, if a song is AI-generated or not, as long as it's good. There are bound to be some good ones just because of the sheer volume of AI-generated music that's going to be created over the next few years.
These AI tools may also lower the barrier to entry for some people to get into things like creating stock music, but they don't give you the ability to easily tweak what you get from the AI, so in any kind of setting where you're creating music for a client, unless you have good skills outside the AI tool, it's going to be hard to really give the client what they want using only AI-music generators.
Also, don't believe the hype--it is not as simple as typing in a few prompts to get what you want from these tools. It can take many retries (like, maybe 50 or more). The more specific you need the output to be, the harder it is to get the AI to do it right.
Capitalism generally works by sacrificing the livelihoods of one group for the benefit of every one else and it does this over and over, each time with a different group. Just ask factory workers when factory robots took over their jobs so that the rest of us could have better/less-expensive cars, or taxi drivers who were impacted by ride-share services like Uber and Lyft, or software developers during the late 1990s when the Internet got good enough to allow companies to outsource their jobs to low-wage places like China and India. Heck, this goes all the way back to artisan weavers who lost their work to mechanical looms. Inevitably, some number of artist and musician jobs will end up on the chopping block due to AI.
But don't despair. Think about what happened to painting when photography became available. Prior to that, an important function of painting was portraiture. After the camera, painters were freed from having to create representational art and they moved into art styles that were less accessible to the camera, styles like impressionism, abstract expressionism, surrealism, minimalism, and so on.
I suspect something similar will happen with music. The genre-conforming stuff will be largely taken over by AI. But this will mean human musicians will move into other territory, exploring new types of rhythms and polyrhythms, new kinds of harmonies, microtonal scales, and the like. Some human musicians make music like this now, but they are in the minority. In the future, I think they will be in the majority.
So my take is that the landscape will change for musicians, but there will still be a place for human-made music.
Thank you Geebz
Well, I just got Logic 11 update, I think it’s a good tool. I didn’t use the AI drummer in Logic x so I’m not sure. Vocals and lyrics are still a thing. I play bass and although the AI bass player in Logic 11 can do some cool stuff, I’m not going to stop playing bass. At some point we may not know what is AI created music or not. I guess that’s scary. 😊
I go to Udio mainly for the weird stuff. Outrageous lyrics and strange mashups of musical styles. Stuff you don‘t hear anywhere else.
I doubt it geebz. No one, ai included, can take away my childhood musics.
Competition breeds excellence so if AI becomes good enough, maybe some musicians will be putting more effort into their writing. Or less effort and just use AI, hard to say. I enjoy writing lyrics, so it's been fun to hear them in context of some random musical genre blends. It has inspired me to write more just for the fun factor. I'm no musician so I wouldn't even attempt to write my own music so it's a fun way to get my words off paper onto something more tangible. Some stuff actually sounds pretty cool and I'm interested to see how it evolves. Pretty soon AI will be using other AI music to inspire sounds in the algorithm and may actually open doors to new sounds we don't currently hear from living breathing artists.
Maybe the Prompter will become the person that the listener will be drawn to. I dunno, just a thought.
I can see some real life use cases for these tools. IE as an artist I could see an interesting way to direct the tool. Could I, for instance, write some lyrics for a death metal track based ON the idea of AI, maybe at soke point. Use ai tools for songs in such an album, to tell the AIs point of view. Then, do some songs from the human perspective, where we get the human element.
Might be cool. Maybe.
But again art requires intent. I think with ai tools an artist can have a new item in their repitoire like photoshop has tools. But it itself is not a piece of art without intent.
This AI tech will eventually make the best adaptive and procedural music for games.
Yeah i mean i've started a channel dedicated to curating the best AI Music. Some of them have made it into my actual playlist. I wonder in 3 years how many real artists there will be. I just graduated with a degree in digital music. So depressing lol. At least we will get some ABSOLUTE BANGERS
I personally like it because I've had plenty of copyright issues with my channel over the years. Especially with so called "royalty free" music. It's always been an issue. Most music in UA-cam videos are like salt and pepper in a meal, it's there to spice up the video, it's not the main ingredient. It would really upset me when a company or artist would copyright claim an entire video over something that's not even the main focus of the video or the subject that made the video famous. Or Instagram and Facebook would delete a video because music happened to be playing in the background in a public space. It's not just AI music that will be nice for videos, it's also AI tools that allow us to separate the audio tracks and remove music that might be copyrighted. In my opinion I think this is a copyright revolution that happened. Especially on UA-cam.
I'd like to see AI generated PsyOpus or The Dillinger Escape Plan...
see it utterly fail, I mean.
I will definitely always pay attention on what humans will create and keep myself up to date, human made stuff will get even more appreciation and it just makes me feel connected with humanity, can't say the same about AI stuff, because with AI generated content I feel kind od isolated and I hope others will feel the same about this.. I will probably enjoy both, human made and ai made music/content in general
Oh and I do definitely pay a lot of attention on quality (I'm not a musician btw) and I feel the same about what you just said. Details will always be important and humans with musical knowledge just have an advantage to become successful. Well until AI one day becomes concious and is on like AGI level and can feel our emotions etc.. than it's definitely getting hard for everyone to keep up I think
I tried them a couple of months ago. What you get seems like an oddly stiff parody song, with the occasional part that actually sounds good. The automatic chat gpt lyrics lack any poetry and often don't match the music.
I tried Suno and it was fun for memes. I prompted it to create a metalcore song about hating Stuart Little.
I fiddled with it a bit more and started to recognise generic patterns that the software uses to "create" songs. They all started to sound the same.
Would I ever listen to ai generated music unironically? No. AI didn't devote the majority of its life mastering musicianship and technique to create a new sound or innovate an existing one.
I believe we will continue to support actual human artists to whatever extent we can and however we can. Because there's so much more we can appreciate when we think about the skill involved to write and play it.
Look, I get it. The purists out there will never be okay with AI generated music. I'm someone who used to write a lot of lyrics but wouldn't have music to put it to. I've generated a few tracks with Suno that are at least the beginning of an idea for a song and have been 80% happy with what I've managed to put together with it. Is it perfect? No. Is it an idea to then get a band to polish? I think so. Did I put them up on UA-cam and share them out with a few folks. Absolutely.
every time there is a technological innovation, you get a wave of people whining because they think you just click a button and a song comes out. even if you wanted to use nothing but ai for a song, there is still plenty of room for creative expression. it's also good for getting more people into music by making it more accessible by lowering the barrier to entry for creating music. Today, people worship software like FL studio for what it's done for musicians as a whole, but it wasn't that long ago when people were saying very similar things about it that they're saying now about AI.
Been playing with Udio, it's capable of remarkable stuff. Like all AI tools though prompting will become its own skill or artform to get the best out of them.
Hifi was never a factor , that doesn't change. Audiophiles are an extremely niche market and will stay that way.
Its going to be the same as mastering engineers. most will use some automated process that's 'good enough' and those that care enough will use a human.
Stock and library music will definitely be hit hard.
For the pop industry that no one cares about (those that leave the radio on while they do the washing up) it pulls the bottom out of that too. people are already sick of pop , and AI is a perfect replacement for the labels shovelling out.
For the type of bespoke jazz metal fusion act that earns a living on 10,000 real fans that support them in a more parasocial way, there's no threat.
I've been playing around with Udio. Yes, the audio quality isn't the greatest, but I'm sure that will improve. The results are also hit and miss. Sometimes there are annoying artifacts, the worst being hallucinated lyrics, and sometimes it's just boring.
BUT, the results can also be pretty mind-blowing, surprising, maybe even creative. And often more soulful and human sounding than a lot of today's pop music.
Imho, Udio's greatest, most obvious weaknesses right now are:
1. It seems incapable of generating a style it hasn't been trained on, and cannot combine elements of different styles into a new style.
2. Usability and user agency suck, meaning getting a good result is a question try and error without much say in it.
Long story short: I absolutely believe this tech will have a huge impact on the music industry. Don't forget, it's still new and will improve rapidly.
I'm not sure, this is a good thing, but the geany is out of the bottle, so..
Very unlikely, I'm fussy enough about human created music!
Time to pickup your 7 string and start playing live in a prog metal band lol. AI cant replace live musicians. Yet
No matter the subject, if something becomes better, faster, or easier, it will replace whatever it is trying to replace for consumers. The hard truth is that this technology will reach a level where you feel the 'soul' in every song it produces and are blown away by how good it is. Of course, if you tell someone it's AI beforehand, they might pretend to tell the difference and hate it, but if you don't, the truth will be revealed.
This raises the question: what does this mean for creators and artists? Well, they will use these tools for as long as they can before being completely replaced on the consumer end. This applies to all areas of life, not just music.
But I would argue this isn't a bad thing. You have to look at the bigger picture with AI. This technology will eventually make producing everything cost pennies and take seconds while being better than anything a human can do across all fields of life. We will likely have this technology in our lifetime, and possibly very soon.
Simply put, artists, creators, and all currently employed people will no longer need to worry about money because everything will be so abundant. People are reflexively angry at stuff like this because it threatens their $$$.
The world will be free from money soon, and I'm all for it because, at the end of the day, nothing is stopping these people from making music except the loss of money. If you create stuff just for the money, you have already lost the soul in your art. I sound like I'm speaking science fiction, but time will likely prove me right if we continue on the same path we are now.
TL;DR: AI technology will eventually create music so good it will feel like it has "soul," and people will accept it once they realize its quality. Artists and creators might initially use AI tools but could be replaced as AI becomes more efficient. This isn't a bad thing; AI will make production cheap and abundant, potentially leading to a world without the need for money. Resistance to AI is often about economic fear, not artistic integrity.
Thinking that this tech will free the world from money is hopelessly naive. It is already being used at the first opportunity to replace the human creator from the equation in order to further the profit and convenience of corporations and those in power.
Further, what point then is there in anyone being an artist in any capacity if anyone with zero talent, inspiration, or creativity, can vomit out "art" as a prompt engineer, using software that has assimilated the entirety of recorded human art and culture, an entity that we would have collectively outsourced our thoughts and ideas.
If that's the kind of future you really want, might as well break every instrument, never teach another singer how to use their organic voice, stop writing any word by hand, and while we're at it throw away all pencils, brushes, paint, just let "AI" do it for you.
The problem I see is that we as humans are doing the same thing the AI is doing as far as copyrights go. We grew up listening to artists that have copyrighted their music, but we are allowed to ingest that music and create our own works. The only difference I see is that the AI has the potential to be much better at it. When an artist uses AI as a collaborator on a music piece, how should copyrights split? Should a software application get credit for writing music when the human is the launching mechanism for the music being created to begin with? It's only the beginning right now. It will get much better at it though. As a musician, I think it can be useful. Have it generate some music and jam with it. Tell it how you want it different and with human input, you have something to work with. Telling it to generate music like another artist may be a concern, but this is in no way original. Right now these tools need proper prompting and additional feedback to get something good. I'm sure this will change pretty quickly though.
I'm not worried. I mostly listen to underground metal and our Elitism is strong enough that this shit will automatically be shunned. Doesn't help that AI can't tour and sell merch at shows.
actually i've seen a lot of people in metal using ai for stuff like album arts and videos. i've also seen people making ai specifically for generating extreme metal/djent. its funny you bring up merch because ai will probably be used to design that too.
@@LetsGetSmarted Djent already sounds like NPC wankery, makes sense.
@@TheHammerofDissidence lol, not wrong
At this point, theres no pushing back, ai will make music that surpases what humans can do specifically in the mainstream because most of that music is formulaic and heavily structured. Outside of that mainstream though, i think there always gonna be people who want to make music and art, but there'll be issues in finding out whats actually ai versus real. Unfortunately, theres probably gonna be less incentive to profit off the arts so there will likely be less people actually pursuing it. But, is it gonna die entirely, i think its pretty highly unlikely, but it will change quite a bit
I don’t want synthetic human experience. I think that it poses a danger to substitute synthetic amalgams for human experience. There is a sense of others you get through that, that a too extreme departure from will likely cause. The worst part is, you probably won’t even know. Floating along the tide of life, and you look around only to realize your companions to your journey are not real.
I’m not afraid of machine assisted music. Or AI as a tool. I am concerned that it may compromise what makes anything anyone does, of any real significance, if misused. The worse than that. That it’s starts to be influenced in ingest, by its own previous synthetic attribution. Obscuring what might have been intuitively clear.
I left a lengthy comment on the podcast you did with Paul Croteau that explains how I feel about AI use, in general.
Basically, I maintain the opinion that no one who is really good at their jobs...regardless of what aspect of the arts they're in...is going to lose a lucrative to job to AI, anytime soon.
It will be very simple tasks, for awhile, and mostly large corporations doing it.
I have not played with the programs mentioned, but I don't see why I wouldn't, at some point.
I would be doing it for curisosity's sake...for fun...not for selling.
no it won’t. Simple.
Not as long as it sounds like a crap mp3 anyway!
I am completely against "AI" being involved in the arts, Geebz, for a variety of reasons, but an important factor to consider is that everyone calling these programs AI to begin with are propping up a misnomer. These are software programs farmed to mimic and pretend to perform human tasks, but they're not sentient lifeforms of any capacity. It sounds cool and trendy for engineers to call them AI because it sounds better than procedural generation software. I'd be receptive to what an actual, self-aware synthetic lifeform would do in an approach to music and creativity, but this stuff we see now, to me they're just tools that non-creatives see as a means to replace creative people from the equation of making art (either for profit or acclaim).
There will always be a demand for real art. At worst, AI will shrink the market for real art. It will never replace it though. EDIT: re: your question at the end. I will avoid AI generated music like the plague. It's the difference between reading a book and reading ChatGPT messages. Talking to a friend and talking to a chatbot. Engaging with something produced by a SOUL versus a pale imitation of that.
"Will AI Music Make It Into Your Playlist" hell F*cking No. i despise anything AI art related. There's already enough soulless music out there, i don't need it to be fake on top of that
Music without soul, music is the culmination of an artists experience that led them to make this music in this moment in these circumstances. AI music is just... Slop. There is no depth, there is no subtext, there is no context.
Love that responce!
It's soulless slop, I agree. Not too different from what's mainstream anyway.
I always think of "the sound of muzak" by Porcupine Tree when I hear people explain what their generative LLM can do in terms of outputting music and replicating long dead artists' voices without their consent. It's... It's just using the music as pure product, an ends to a means which is to [PRODUCE PRODUCT], and it saddens me
I give anyone thinking AI-music "has no soul" two to five years. You will not be able to hear the difference to human music. I doubt you could 100% now even. And you know that's not really the issue - you are just _scared_ of the future.
And oh, it won't be the end of the music industry because people will start selling AI music to Spotify, it will destroy the music industry because NO ONE will sell music to anyone.
it's just stuff, there's no magic to it
no because its soulless empty flat
why would it be soulless if its only trained on human made music? people seem to want to keep their cake and eat it too. is it copyright infringement or is it soulless? it can't be both because if it's copyright infringement, then it passes the turing test, but if its soulless, then it couldn't be used as a replacement for the original.
There's no such thing as AI music. It's just called music, and there's no correct or incorrect way to make it. We're already at a point most where people aren't aware of all the technological embellishing that goes into producing a song. Remember when people used to complain about autotune? Assuming the tech keeps improving (and assuming you listen to new music), music made with AI tools will make it onto your playlist whether you know it or not, and depending on your definition of AI, it likely already has.
AI might try to create a frequency that kills humans ?
Tried Udio a bit. Wasn't impressed the least. But if/when these tools get better, well.... It's definitely dangerous for mainstream music
udio and suno are illegal, that's why they are free, if you know what i mean by that.. no one can own the rights to any music created by that stuff, it is sampling.
pastiche is fair use
I personally will never support AI music or art.