I 10 West
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Taking a journey from Jacksonville to Santa Monica Pier, I-10 West is filled with scenery and control cities brilliant and awful. Control City Freak is updated weekly and covers every two digit Interstate Highway in America. I'll be showing control city signs on each 1 and 2 digit (2di) Interstate Highway in the continental United States and will strive to make as complete a record as possible. I'll also be getting into the roadgeek weeds here and there, showing downtown skylines and state border crossings, and making corny jokes. I welcome all to join my geeky tour of every primary Interstate in the country!
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I10 is wild. I live 3 miles south in Houston so when I went to LA my nerdy self had to drive the end of it. Just like I did in Jacksonville 15 years ago. What a loooooong road.
Yep, super long
Actually I 10 is not as long as I 70 I 80 or I 40. I 10 is only 2480 miles long
@@evanhughes1510 No matter how you look at it, I-10 is still pretty damn long.
I’ve seen the sign for Florida and Mississippi before when driving. It’s my favorite sign so far! I have always been interested in control cities and this is a great channel!
Thanks!
About Pascagoula, MS: Remember the main purpose of the Interstate highways - Defense. The U.S. Navy has a small base there for various schools. As New Mexico goes, like Colorado, New Mexico signage sucks. I have read in various articles and web sites that comment on the horrible route signage in those states. The CA 60//US 60 signage: I have traveled that highway annd at one time there were at least three instances of US 60 shields appearing along it. Another great one!
as a lake city native. LAKE CITY CONTROL SUPREMACY
Lake Limon
At the exit for I-20 east, the control city used to be Pecos instead of Dallas. Good thing they came to their senses on that one, lol.
This
In the 1990s, the control city for I-10 west in El Paso was Tucson, but Las Cruces has grown substantially since then, so probably explains the change. Also back then, at the junction with I-25 (in New Mexico!), even NMDOT signed the pull through as Tucson. Currently at that interchange, there is one sign left, on I-25 south, that references Tucson.
This is so helpful for anyone who might’ve forgotten certain routes! Thanks 🙏🏽
Thanks!
Tallahassee, Pensacola, Mobile, Biloxi/Gulfport, New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, Las Cruces, Tucson, San Diego/Phoenix, Phoenix(After I-8), Los Angeles
Las Cruces is rapidly growing (116,000 city proper and 225,000 metro), has an X0 and X5 intersection and is home to New Mexico State University, so it commands a spot on the overhead sign. I could see an argument against it going eastbound and signing El Paso because of it's close proximity but Las Cruces is a legit population. Center.
Mesilla is a historic town within the Las Cruces area with many of the original structures still standing. The plaza is a national historic landmark and has some really good local restaurants.
Sounds cool!
Hi Todd! I think that’s what it said your name is! Like you I’ve been a…pretty big expressway nerd most of my adult life. I’ve memorized a LOT of exits on a fair amount of the interstates I’ve actually ridden on, these control city choices have always intrigued me too! There’s been some…real shocker doozy surprise choices throughout my travels for damn sure! I’ve also memorized the names of a lot of the around 3,000 counties in the country-Texas is a monster huge state, I’m still trying to memorize all of those! Now, I haven’t really watched the videos of the interstates I haven’t personally been on yet and the ones I have I’ve only watched the segments I’ve actuality travelled on. Don’t want to ruin the surprise of all the control city choices in the country! (That sounds so irrational and silly I know). You do a great job presenting these, they’re modest and have a lot of easily digestible info!
I-10…my story with I-10 is a little complicated. I’ve personally seen from Jacksonville out to just short of Pensacola and I’ve ridden the final stretch from Palm Springs out to Santa Monica. Last year when we were all stuck inside bored out of our skulls I gave in and watched Westbound from Pensacola out to the Louisiana border because that’s a REALLY short distance and then the little bit from Lake Charles out to Beaumont. Westbound through Texas, New Mexico and Arizona is on the bucket list-hoping to get to it sooner rather than later. ALL of that Westbound is here on UA-cam, the temptation to just watch through it is getting stronger by the month ugh. But I’m trying to hold out, I’ve heard Texas made sone VERY interesting control city choices West of San Antonio so I’m doing my damndest to hold out so I can see those for myself! I want to comment on the Jacksonville to Louisiana border choices…
First, I respectfully disagree with you not liking the choice of Lake City as the very first control city choice heading out of Jax. Lake City is a major junction where I-10, I-75, and US 90 meet. I’ve personally been to Lake City, the Holiday Inn there used to be one of the nicest hotels in the country, God only knows why they moved it to the other side of I-75 and made it a Express. Also, Lake City is known as Florida’s Gateway City, it’s the first major town many will hit heading into Florida on I-75. IMO I feel heading West out of Jax that’s the right choice. Next is Tallahassee, exact right choice no surprise as it’s Florida’s capital. After that is Pensacola-again the logical choice. Then briefly Mobile… What it chances to next in Mobile got an audible “Holy shit!” out of me-as you exit that bridge downtown along the Gulf, I expected the next control city to be maybe Biloxi but I was leaning towards New Orleans. Well it says I-10 Pascagoula! I was like WTF!? I’ve heard of Pascagoula, many haven’t. I was dumbfounded. It’s like 30 miles from Mobile and has only 20,000 people in it! As you head West out of Mobile you will hit at LEAST 8 to 9 I-10 West Pascagoula signs! By that point you’ll know how to spell it that’s for sure 😂 Also, almost every mile of the first 20 miles of Texas is exits, Jesus! That has been a major memorization test! Anyway, excellent work!
Thanks for the comment! Yeah Pascagoula is definitely a weird one. I'd heard that it was signed because 10 originally ended near there when they were building it, but you'd think they could have updated the sign to something better in the last 50 years.
@@ControlCityFreak I was gonna say I was told last year the Pascagoula choice was due to it dead ending at US 90 there as they were building out I-10. They should just update to New Orleans! If they must pick somewhere before there either Biloxi or Gulfport. I chuckled at the I-10/65 junction in Mobile, East to Florida, West Mississippi. Huge chunk of the traffic going East IS going to Florida so I get it. Mississippi though it’s like ehhhh nothing to see there! One more note, I wholeheartedly agree with you on the Tallahassee-Pensacola stretch. Folks that haven’t travelled that stretch yet have NO clue, it seems like “only” 200 miles but it DRAGS. On. Forever. And there’s not a whole hell of a lot of exits that stretch either! The panhandle part of Florida is a world away from the peninsula part. The panhandle used to extend all the way out to the Louisiana border once upon a time!
@@BhChicagoTVStationhistoriesand good luck. I’ve done 10 through Texas and it’s no fun between San Antonio and El Paso. Nothing but the occasional gas station
What about Baytown Texas as a control city? The last city between Houston and Beaumont on I 10 west bound.😮!!!
Tallahassee at the start! Michigan does not use Marshall on 69 or 94; Illinois does not use Effingham on 57 or 70 even though much traffic turns there.
Yes, I did use the Marshall MI interstate junction. I do think Marshall could make sense south from Lansing, or even Effingham south from Champaign-Urbana
When you are in Jackson County, signs at ramps on I-94 use Marshall, but when you get back into Calhoun County, it goes to Chicago at ramps from there on. Even before you reach Marshall.
Who has driven EVERY mile of this interstate ... (raises hand).
Fun facts: the interchange with I-35 at the south end of the concurrency in San Antonio is the southernmost point of I-10.
The interchange with I-110 (Harbor Freeway) in LA is the northernmost point of I-10 and is the same latitude as Atlanta.
Cool!
It is interesting how far south I-10 swings heading east from LA. The northernmost point on I-10 is actually more north than Atlanta proper, it is around the same latitude as the Atlanta suburb Alpharetta, and the southernmost point of I-10 is almost as far south as Hermosillo in the state of Sonora in Mexico. Just shows how far south or north I-10 swings depending on the direction of travel along the road.
7:29 I’d go with Las Cruces because it’s the split between the road to Phoenix and the road to Santa Fe, and then include Phoenix on the sign at the junction with 25. I’m reluctant to just go with Phoenix though because some people are taking 10 to I-8.
That being said Lake City should not be a control city because there are better ways from Jacksonville to Atlanta and Tampa
For the purpose of detouring traffic away from the downtown core of New Orleans, at the 10/610 junction I would sign 10 West as Downtown/West Bank and 610 as Metairie/Baton Rouge with an airport shield next to 610. Not a big fan of acknowledging Metairie in any context, but signing it that way might help regional traffic navigate. If we're doing something fancy, maybe a "French Quarter/Superdome/Use I-10 West" on the left side barrier. Ideally some of this traffic would be using I-12, but I can see enough people wanting to at least drive through New Orleans to stop briefly. Going eastbound from Metairie at the 610/10 split, I would also sign 10 as Downtown/West Bank but I'm torn on 610. I agree that I-10 should have been routed away from the downtown core. The looming I-10 viaduct over downtown New Orleans makes the city very hard to navigate on foot/bike because of the traffic on the Claiborne and Calliope surface streets.
In a more just world, the section of I-10 between Franklin Ave and Calliope Street would be torn down, the section of I-10 between West End Blvd and Calliope Street would be an I-10 spur or maybe future I-49, and I-10 mainline would be routed along I-610. For westbound downtown traffic, we could bifurcate traffic along a few routes. Almonaster Ave could be upgraded to interstate standards between Louisa St and N Galvez St, ending at Franklin Ave, which would be a quick escape valve for traffic trying to get to the ninth ward and St. Bernard Parish via Claiborne Ave. US 90 is already a commercial boulevard, so in a hypothetical where the elevated I-10 Claiborne Expressway doesn't exist, we could route Superdome traffic down US 90. Then the section of I-10 between West End Boulevard and Calliope Street would remain for truck traffic to downtown and all West Bank traffic.
A tangent: the Ninth Ward is a hostile place for pedestrians and bikers because of high-speed traffic using surface streets between the 7th Ward and St. Bernard Parish. There are recurring hit and runs especially on N Claiborne Ave in the densely populated 8th and 9th wards. If we were really going to dream, I would build an elevated freeway essentially right above the canal that runs parallel to Florida Ave. A viaduct running roughly from the end of the Saint Bernard Highway in Arabi all the way up to roughly the 10/610 split would solve a lot of problems, and it's not like Louisiana DOT doesn't already build these kinds of behemoth viaducts in random places anyway.
New Orleans is so car dependent so pulling all this off would be damn near impossible, but worth envisioning. Especially by tearing down the Claiborne Expressway, the Treme and 7th Ward could actually breathe a little bit, and a streetcar line could be built to run between the Superdome and St. Bernard Ave.
Just my assembled thoughts. With how corrupt New Orleans is, these large scale redesigns will never come to fruition, but the heavily marginalized native citizens of New Orleans deserve much better than the status quo.
Solid points! I just visited New Orleans a couple months ago and agree with pretty much everything you say here.
I wish Florida signed west 10 Los Angeles on their first mileage sign, and Cal-trans put Jacksonville FL on their 1st 10 east mileage sign headed east
That would be sweet!
Yes, just like how they do on either end of I-40, where on the west end the sign is for Wilmington, NC, and on the east end the sign is for Barstow, CA.
Imagine if FDOT mentions Los Angeles at the beginning of I-10 in Jacksonville
I’m always a fan of that sort of thing. Love the Wilmington sign in Barstow and the list of major cities on 70 in Baltimore
That would be nice if Los Angeles was mentioned in Jax and if Jacksonville was mentioned at Santa Monica .
@@ControlCityFreak I think at the beginning of every X0 and X5 Interstate, I'd probably mention all of the large cities that the interstate passes through on the first mileage sign. For example, I-10 west would say this:
Tallahassee/Houston/Phoenix/Los Angeles/Santa Monica, and then the rest of the mileage signs would say next exit/next substantial town/Primary
@@mxderate I like that idea. It would be fun to see which cities get chosen for each road
@@ControlCityFreak What like Route 50 in Maryland! "Sacramento, Ca 3075" and in Sacramento "Ocean City, Md 3075"
I was hopping you’d get the mileage sign entering Texas; 853 miles to El Paso. :D
Oh damn, I drove by that sign too, definitely should have. I stopped at the welcome center in Orange, and learned it was the same distance from there to El Paso as it was from there to Tampa.
Oh I love that sign! I see it every time I’m coming back to Houston from New Orleans lol. Right by the Texas star ⭐️
@@ControlCityFreak Texas, I once described in Wikipedia, is so large and so centralized on the Rio Grande (Meican border) and the Gulf of Mexico that Beaumont is closer to Jacksonville on the Atlsntic coast and El Paso is closer to San Diego on the Pacific coast than it is to Beaumont.
857 actually
@@ControlCityFreakgood thing reboots are a thing
The drive across the FL panhandle is the pits. Surprised you didn't take another chance to diss opelousas lol. Also notable is the Tchoutacabouffa River
Yeah that panhandle run is the worst
Once I-49 is fully completed, Opelousas would be removed as a control city
I think on I-10 West after New Orleans, Baton Rouge alone is the right choice, but after Baton Rouge, Houston should be the bottom line control city along with Lafayette, Lake Charles, and Beaumont serving as secondary controls along the way. So in Baton Rouge on I-10 West the big green signs would say '10 West Lafayette Houston', in Lafayette '10 West Lake Charles Houston', in Lake Charles '10 West Beaumont Houston', and finally in Beaumont just straight up '10 West Houston'. I think that's how I-10 West in Louisiana and Southeast Texas should be signed.
Makes sense
My Control Cities for I-10 West:
Tallahassee
Mobile
New Orleans
Baton Rouge
Lafayette / Beaumont
Beaumont
Houston
San Antonio
El Paso
Tucson
Phoenix
Los Angeles / Santa Monica
Tallahassee, Pensacola, Mobile, Biloxi/Gulfport, New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Lafayette, Lake Charles, Beaumont, Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, Las Cruces, Tucson, Phoenix, LA, Santa Monica are my thoughts on I-10
Solid
For a really far swing, I think you can double sign San Diego with Phoenix from Tucson because of the I-8 junction.
It would be great if dor would put begin and end signs of all interstate freeways
Ah yes... Pascagoula. Where the infamous Mississippi Squirrel Revival happened
You gotta hate it when the interstate Shield falls off so frustrating.
Did you know El Paso is closer to Beaumont,California than Beaumont,Texas?
That's always a mind blowing stat. The one time I was on 10 in these parts, I'd driven from Tampa, and was amazed to discover that Orange, TX is farther from the NM border than it is from where I started.
My favorite mind blowing stat is that el paso is closer to LA and Beaumont is closer to Jax, than they are to each other
I just got a brand new red I-10 shirt today, and I love it! :)
Awesome!
@@ControlCityFreak Tomorrow I'll take a picture of it and I'll show you it. :)
@@ControlCityFreak I sent a picture of the shirt to your gmail, I hope you like it. :)
@@drivingbritt9617 Cheers, cool shirt!
@@ControlCityFreak Thank you, bud. :)
7:42 I believe Mesilla was only included on the sign for tourism purposes. There's no other good explanation since I-10 doesn't even pass through the town of Mesilla.
8:17 NMDOT having a blank I-10 west sign with no control city really is inexcusable. I looked at Google Street View at interchanges in Lordsburg and I can't believe at the east of I-10 BL, I-10 west is signed Lordsburg - at the east end of the city! At the west end of the business loop (as well as on some smaller signs), NMDOT finally signs Tucson.
That very first one, Lake City, ugh. Should be 10 WEST - Pensacola, Los Angeles.
Van Horn is listed as the primary control city on I-10 west of the endpoint of US 290 near Junction, Texas. This is a recent change as Fort Stockton used to be signed as the control city up until that point. The last time I drove I-10 westbound, I didn't see one mention of El Paso until Ft. Stockton.
In San Antonio it is West el paso east houston
I don't get that while Fort Stockton is small it isn't tiny like Van Horn is.
The main long haul control cities should be el paso and San antonio, and ft Stockton is a sizeable city that should be given more representatio n.
@@bigbio8816 All Fort Stockton now needs would be about 90 thousand new residents. That can easily bring them up to legit control status out of El Paso and San Antonio.
Beaumont is not the Eastern most city in Texas. That would be Orange, Texas. You need to show the mileage sign in Orange.
9:16 that sign is actually in california. I've been back and forth from Phoenix and LA many times so I see that sign a lot.
Good catch!
I realized that Arizona actually has Blythe as the secondary control with LA still on the bottom line.
Mississippi doesn't really have a good control city on I-10 and same with New Mexico after Las Cruces
At least one of our 50 states is doing something right good job Mississippi signing New Orleans instead of those stupid small towns.
“The Way It IS” Westbound. Various DOT Sign Choices. (-)=bad, (?)=okay, (+)=good
Lake City(Florida)(-)
Tallahassee(+)
Pensacola(+)
Mobile(+)
Pascagoula(-)
Gulfport/New Orleans
New Orleans(?)
Baton Rouge(+)
Lafayette LA(?)
Lake Charles(?)
Beaumont TX(?)
Houston(+)
San Antonio(+)
El Paso(lots of secondaries in between, Van Horn is used EB)
Las Cruces
Deming
Lordsburg/Tucson
Tucson
Phoenix
Los Angeles
Caltrans uses Riverside and San Bernardino as secondaries
Santa Monica
I used to live in Jacksonville back in the 90s.
For a period of time the control city used to read both Lake City and Tallahassee at the interchange with I-95. I-295 had both Tallahassee and Lake City as well. In my opinion it Should read Mobile. Technically I-10 goes to the North of Lake City, Tallahassee and Pensacola. As far as Lake City goes, the only reason why they use it as a control city would be the I-75 interchange. The drive from Jacksonville to Pensacola is very boring. Just miles and miles of pine trees.
In Texas, Baton Rouge used to be the control city from Beaumont to the Louisiana line, that was also back in the 90s. The stretch From El Paso to San Antonio is very sparse and boring. Junction, Tx is considered the halfway point between Los Angeles and Jacksonville. One more interesting factor is that I-10 skirts the Mexican border on the west side of El Paso. A nice view of Juarez
Lots of great info here. Agree on 10 in FL, very boring drive. 75 is really boring too. FL in general is low key one of the most boring states for long distance driving
Put Houston that would work perfect.
Mod's the way it should be:
Tallahassee, Pensacola, Mobile, Gulfport, New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Lafayette, Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, Las Cruces, Tucson, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Santa Monica
Solid.
Tallahassee, Pensacola, Mobile, New Orleans/Baton Rouge, Baton Rouge, Lafayette ("capitol" of Cajun country and bigger than many of us recognize), Lake Charles, Beaumont, Houston, San Antonio/Austin, San Antonio, El Paso, Las Cruces, Tucson, Phoenix, Palm Springs, San Bernardino, Los Angeles, Santa Monica.
No suburbs that were hick towns seventy years ago!
Here’s my opinion of the way it should be for I-10 westbound
Tallahassee
Mobile
New Orleans
Baton Rouge
Lafayette
Beaumont
Houston
San Antonio
El Paso
Tucson
Phoenix/San Diego
Phoenix
San Bernardino/River Side
Los Angeles
Santa Monica
I'd get rid of Beaumont and add Pensacola. Also, get rid of San Bernardino.
I would add Pensacola there. It’s a city a lot of people have heard of, especially if you’ve any significant amount of time in Florida. Also, I’d be fine with getting rid of San Diego for I-10 since San Diego traffic from Arizona will be going on I-8 while 10 goes on to Los Angeles without ever hitting San Diego.
Add Pensacola. Beaumont is okay but Houston is much bigger and preferred
That sign should be 10 West Tampa
If you are starting on I-95:from anywhere south of the 95/85 split in Petersburg, CA and we're going towards Hillsborough County, FL and Pinellas county, you would take I-10 west to 75 South to 275 south via Ocala. From Anywhere above Petersburg,, you will have exited at I-85 then a picked up 75 in Atlanta then 275, in Ocala. South of Jacksonville, you would take 4 to 275.
Same thing for I-20 traffic eastbound that sign after Tallahassee, if they give a nod to I-75 should be Tampa as you would leave 10 there in Lake City and pick up 275 in Ocala to get to Central Tampa. 75 passes through the eastern suburbs of Tampa.
Update (cuz I just drove the 10 between Tucson to west Texas this week): most of the roadside mileage signs west of Las Cruces list Tucson as the BOTTOM LINE control city. I think the first three have Deming, but then it switches ... They (the signs) looked fairly new too. Very much NOT like New Mexico 😂
Nice!
I have to redo and update on what westbound I-10 would've been signed for.
•Tallahassee, FL
•Pensacola, FL
•Mobile, AL
•Biloxi, MS
•New Orleans
•Baton Rouge, LA
•Lafayette, LA
•Lake Charles, LA
•Beaumont, TX
•Houston
•San Antonio
•El Paso, TX
•Las Cruces, NM
•Tucson, AZ
•Phoenix, AZ
•Los Angeles (leaving Phoenix, AZ)
-San Bernardino-Riverside, CA (crossing into California)
-San Bernardino, CA | •Los Angeles (split with CA 60)
•Los Angeles
-Santa Monica, CA
I rest my case.
Oh my God another I-10 Shield fell off why do they keep falling off. Someone's got to fix that fix it.
I move that we petition ADOT to change the signs in Phoenix to say I-10 west Ehrenberg
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Lol
ADOT is really not good with smaller cities that should be signed. I think on I-40 should be Kingman AZ instead of Los Angeles(Barstow is NOT a suburb of LA anyone)
You forgot the intersection with I8
I just looked at the sign on I-10 headed west right before the exit ramp on to I-75 at Lake City. It just said I-10 West. No control city. Yikes!
Oh no!
Tallahassee
Pensacola
Mobile
New Orleans
Baton Rouge
Houston
San Antonio
El Paso
Tucson ( could be talking w las cruces)
Phoenix
Los Angeles
Yeah some of the cities on signed on I-10 shouldn’t be on there. Namely Pascagoula, Lafayette (Arguable), Lake Charles (Arguable), Beaumont (At least in LA), Any NM town besides Las Cruces, Anywhere in CA besides Los Angeles.
Phoenix should be signed in CA going east past San Bernardino also.
Lafayette is sizeable westbound, Santa Monica is the correct control city, but other than that, I agree. Also, Lake City, and arguably Gulfport shouldn't be on there as well.
Biloxi could be used instead of Gulfport. At least they don’t use Bay St. Louis
West I-10 isn't very helpful West I-10 what put something there at least. Very unhelpful.
The Way it Should be
Tampa (better Choice than Lake City or Pascagoula, combined.(
Tallahassee once you get to U-75.
Pensacola
Mobile
Gulfport (much bigger than the Pascagoula legacy signs)
Triplex the New Orleans & to I-12 West Hammond, & U-59 north Meridian (five times the size of Hattiesburg, I can see Santa Ana on I-5 being provincial, but this is absolutely lousy, Louisiana l)
Baton Rouge
Lafayette
Lake Charles
Houston
San Antonio
Van Horn & to I-20 Midland/Odessa
El Paso after the 20 split
Las Cruces/Albuquerque
After I-25 I would go with Tucson
Then San Diego until you get to I-8
Then Phoenix/Flagstaff to the North junction oh I-17 in the suburbs of Phoenix, then Riverside until you reach the Beaumont Wye
Then San Bernardino/Los Angeles as they do, then Los Angeles/Santa Ana, then for the southern segment of I-10 after I-5 breaks off,
Santa Monica then after PCH joins Go with Malibu (CA's Control City for 1 and the next city of any large scale consequences at that point and the home of Pepperdine.
Eastbound wasn’t too bad, so here goes westbound:
VALDOSTA/TALLAHASSEE: BEGINNING-Florida Exit 296B (via I 75 N; 48.9 miles to the first exit with access to Valdosta)
TALLAHASSEE: Florida Exit 296B-Florida Exit 241 (32.6 miles to the first exit in Tallahassee)
FEERY PASS/PENSACOLA: Florida Exit 241-Florida Exit 26 (9.5 miles to the first exit in Ferry Pass)
PENSACOLA: Florida Exit 26-Florida Exit 12 (via I 110 S; 3.6 miles to the first exit in Pensacola)
DAPHNE: Florida Exit 12-Alabama Exit 49 (10.8 miles to the first exit in Daphne)
MOBILE: Alabama Exit 49-Alabama Exit 35 (7 miles to the first exit in Mobile)
BILOXI/GULFPORT: Alabama Exit 35-Mississippi Exit 57 (8.9 miles to the first exit in Biloxi)
GULFPORT: Mississippi Exit 57- Mississippi Exit 50 (7.9 miles to the first exit in Gulfport)
NEW ORLEANS/BATON ROUGE: Mississippi Exit 50-Mississippi Exit 2 (via I 12 W; 87.4 miles to the first exit in Baton Rouge)
BATON ROUGE: Mississippi Exit 2-Louisiana Exit 177 (10.1 miles to the first exit in Baton Rouge)
LAFAYETTE: Louisiana Exit 177- Louisiana Exit 115 (9.6 miles to the first exit in Lafayette)
LAKE CHARLES: Louisiana Exit 115-Louisiana Exit 48 (14.6 miles to the first exit in Lake Charles)
BEAUMONT: Louisiana Exit 48-Texas Exit 860 (5.2 miles to the first exit in Beaumont)
HOUSTON: Texas Exit 860-Texas Exit 787 (8.4 miles to the first exit in Houston)
SAN ANTONIO: Texas Exit 787-Texas Exit 595 (3.6 miles to the first exit in San Antonio)
LAREDO/EL PASO: Texas Exit 595-Texas Exit 572 (via I 35 S; 141.4 miles to the first exit in Laredo)
AUSTIN/EL PASO: Texas Exit 572-Texas Exit 570 (via I 35 N; 66.8 miles to the first exit in Austin)
EL PASO: Texas Exit 570-Texas Exit 42 (8 miles to the first exit in El Paso)
LAS CRUCES: Texas Exit 42-New Mexico Exit 155 (10.3 miles to the first exit in Las Cruces)
ALBUQUERQUE/TUCSON: New Mexico Exit 155-New Mexico Exit 144 (via I 25 N; 216.6 miles to the first exit in Albuquerque)
TUCSON: New Mexico Exit 144-Arizona Exit 302 (26.9 miles to the first exit in Tucson)
PHOENIX/YUMA: Arizona Exit 302-Arizona Exit 199 (via I 8 W; 168.9 miles to the first exit in Yuma)
PHOENIX:Arizona Exit 199-Arizona Exit 185 (24.1 miles to the first exit in Phoenix)
FLAGSTAFF/MORENO VALLEY/RIVERSIDE/SAN BERNARDINO/FONTANA/ONTARIO: Arizona Exit 185-Arizona Exit 150A (via I 17 N; 143.2 miles to the first exit in Flagstaff)
MORENO VALLEY/RIVERSIDE/SAN BERNARDINO/FONTANA/ONTARIO: Arizona Exit 150A-California Exit 96 (via CA 60 W; 11 miles to the first exit in Moreno Valley)
RIVERSIDE/SAN BERNARDINO/FONTANA/ONTARIO: California Exit 96-California Exit 93 (via CA 60 W; 17.2 miles to the first exit in Riverside)
SAN BERNARDINO/FONTANA/ONTARIO: California Exit 93-California Exit 76 (2 miles to the first exit in San Bernardino)
FONTANA/ONTARIO:California Exit 76-California Exit 68 (3.8 miles to the first exit in Fontana)
ONTARIO: California Exit 68-California Exit 66 (8.4 miles to the first exit in Ontario)
LOS ANGELES: California Exit 66-California Exit 21 (1.2 miles to the first exit in Los Angeles)
THOUSAND OAKS/OXNARD/VENTURA: California Exit 21-California Exit 19B (via U.S. 101 N; 38.2 miles to the first exit in Thousand Oaks)
10W-75N works just as well as the reciprocal in the eastbound video. According to Google Maps, this route to Macon has almost no time difference relative to 95N-16W. By the way, Valdosta is in no way a bad choice on an interchange overhead (On an A-B-C-D-Limon scale, I’m going to need serious convincing of why it should be any worse than a C-tier), but if you think Macon on the overhead is better, I won’t stop you…
Due to my proximity rules of when to drop a primary to secondary, Baton Rouge takes over as primary before entering Louisiana (Slidell is literally the only place separating Bay St. Louis from New Orleans). As a result, two routes exist with the same distance control (my list for I 91 will have a similar case)
I was considering having Dallas alternate with San Antonio for the 20 or so miles between the Baytown spur and Downtown Houston, but no one would’ve driven to Harris County to get to DFW from Beaumont or other points east. That, and 10 never truly duplexes with 45.
10W-35S sort of continues the trajectory headed into San Antonio, so I think it makes sense. As for Austin, I only have it on here because of the concurrency through San Antonio; from Houston, TX 71 through ZZ Top country is the most direct route to Austin.
Flagstaff works because of how I 10 is aimed north headed into Phoenix (and the FIRST 10/17 interchange forms a relatively straight route onto 17.
Again, my big thing about all these Inland Empire cities is that they form an urban area that is separate from Los Angeles (Los Angeles is a subtropical seaside location with a touch or two of semi arid influences; the Inland Empire is just about desert).Also, so many are listed because Riverside isn’t overwhelmingly larger than the others.
Once in Los Angeles, it only seems logical that I 10 default onto U.S. 101 to Ventura County. San Diego traffic would’ve taken I 15 south through the Inland Empire, and Central Valley traffic would’ve used CA 210 and I 210 to bypass Los Angeles along the mountains.
I finally got this comment in! Typing on my phone 3.5 hours ago, I somehow deleted my thread while putting in my explanations at the end. That was not amusing, let me say…
Definitely wouldn't do all those IE cities. I'd make SB a secondary but LA is way too big a draw. Never heard of Daphne or Ferry Pass so that would definitely be a no. I wouldn't bother with Yuma either, I get the 8 split thing but Phoenix is just so much bigger. I do like the NO/BR out of Biloxi.