I don't mean to imply that this is the biggest or best city possible in SimCity 4 without cheats. I just thought it looked cool, and at the time I uploaded it I couldn't find anything like it on UA-cam because everything was modded.
Sir, this city is amazing. The best one on youtube by far. I salute you. You've made such a well-rounded and diverse city using no mods, cheats or plugins. It just makes me so mad how people boast about their cities when it turns out they've just planted a tree and entered some code for success. Dumbasses. Your transportation is very well organized for an ad-hoc system, you seem to have made something which adapts well to varying densities throughout the city.
Finally, I want to congratulate you once again for adapting to harsh, uneven terrain and building such a realistic city. A solution for your ferry problems could be to have ferry stations and commercial areas in other cities, so that people would have to commute using ferry. Keep this up in the future. Put your mind to it and you will build amazing things, and show those cheaters who don't give the standard game credit.
Once you have raised manufacturing taxes, you can further balance your budget by replacing your utilities with neighbour deals. Having lots of coal power plants, water pumps, manufacturing industry, and waste to energy plants in another city will do wonders for residential demand, your budget, and your air pollution statistics. Thirdly, you should have train stations to the side of railways. This drastically decreases commute time for subway and rail users.
I enjoyed the video. I mod because of realism. Slope modding and texture modding seem to blossom SimCity's true potential. I also love making waterfronts. Your video brings me back to the basic days of SimCity when I always lost to money issues ;-( Noce video!
A few pointers I have: Firstly, your parks and recreation budget is a little odd. The only reason you have for parks is to raise land value and break demand caps. Large plazas have the highest breaker per tile density, so it is ideal to use those so you can further increase your population. Second, your tax policy is a little skewed. What I suggest is setting manufacturing to 20%. They rarely leave due to high taxes alone, and when the rest of your city grows, you can gradually phase it out.
I've been playing this game for over 10 years and have never managed a population over 80K without any mods or cheats. I used Fairview region initially provided by game. I recently started over in the same region and have been working on it for the past 3 months. I still go back to my initial start-up city/cities and realized my mistakes. Second time around is coming along well and still enjoy playing this game. I've never sped the game up. I like to go slow and don't build anything until sims ask for it. This way, sims dictate how the city/cities develop. It makes it more interesting and think designers created this to be played that way. Just my $0.02 on the game. Good day to all!
Really nice city, interresting layout and cool that you got all in one region (atleast I think so?). I wouldn't have patience to make everything in one region. It takes so long to develop everything. I always make 3-4 regions and have a total population over 500k within just a few hours and 1 million short thereafter!
Rush Hour is the expansion pack. It adds a bunch of new features to the game. Mainly transportation stuff. If you want Rush Hour you have to buy the expansion pack separately. Or buy SimCity 4 Deluxe, which combines both SimCity 4 and Rush Hour.
@77SumoMo77 Actually a lot longer than that. I did it little by little, off and on over a year or so. There were no neighbor cities originally so it took a while to build up demand. I keep trying to make incremental improvements by adding new transportation systems, etc.
@airbus198 Rush Hour is an expansion pack to the original game, and can't be run by itself. Deluxe includes both the original game and the expansion pack.
thanks, well im re installing sim city 4 after all those years, when i first played i was a kid my city was an economic disaster, will play more seriously now to see if i can archieve this
@111seeit The key is getting a high demand for them. They won't even be built unless the population is a certain amount, so you have to have a lot of residential zones first. Also, the population should be well-educated (that's also how you get high-tech industry). Having neighbor cities in the region can also affect the demand.
@toplad2 my experiences are that people are very much attracted by parks and recreational areas. if you build skateboard parks, tennis courts and parks a lot of people will want to live there. this allows you to build more houses.
Thanks everyone for all the feedback. Since posting this I haven't had much time for SimCity, but I did try to make this city bigger and the population actually declined somewhat. That just goes to show that I'm not an expert at this game, so I probably wouldn't be much help to those of you asking for advice. Anyway I don't think I'll do anything on this scale with SC4 again, but I'll definitely start playing the new SimCity when it comes out. Might also try The Sims 3, if I can find the time.
@toplad2 Also important are decent health care and fire coverage, and keeping crime tolerably low. And try to cut down on traffic congestion--use the "traffic" data view to see the most congested routes. Try building subway lines along the most crowded streets--just make sure they're useful routes that connect residents to jobs. And build a bus system too, to complement the subway system, with a bus stop by every subway station so people can transfer. Hope this helps.
If the route passes through fewer stations, then it has to stop less frequently except for the passengers who want to get off, more like a bus. Fourth, I noticed you had a large amount of police stations along with some jails. Crime coverage should be less nebulous and more evenly spread, but education is the real key to fighting crime. Using the moneysavers I've shown you, lower your taxes to accomodate the wealthy to promote rich growth, and splurge on educational facilities.
sometime you can just elevate a section of HWY too. Like just tear a section out...make it elevated fwy in the middle and connect the ends and then just run the tracks through. Looks like you had Freeway exits you didn't want to move though. Good job.
how did you maked those big towers i cant do them even i choose production whichi is high towers and offices and it makes normal offices not so big as yours
I really don't want to seem like a jerk, but c'mon. In what city is there residential zoned right next to the landfill? In what city is every street a speedway? In what city is there like 50 bridges?
DoubleKhoceSammich It wasn't an opinion it was statement and a jab at the video maker. Thanks for the feedback though, I found this randomly one night and it truthfully was/is fairly unnecessary and rude. I mean the game had just came out...I could care less either way though to be honest. it was just a random comment.
I remember when I was about nine I was amazing at this game, Mator rating at its highest with a population of 1.7 million, I have 3 copies of the duluxe edition lol.
I got 1 million into a medium sized city, no cheats and I might make a video. My region has over 5 million people and its based on the Minneapolis metro.
how do you get such high demand, ive been playing for a while made a million pop region and in my main city theres about 300K and the taxes are at about 8 each but there still aint no demand, i'm still yet to cheat but i just might cos theres just no demand. Any tips
actually you can. the trick is to start with dirty industry, and then when you gain enough money, sacrifice them all (yeah, hella lot of money that you'll burn), and put parks in between. at the same time, raise dirty and manufacturing tax to rocket skyhigh, and you'll start to see hi tech industry booming everywhere. at that point, you're making tonnes of money due to hi-tech industry tax, even at average tax rate.
I ment 6.5 million but this is also a nice city, considering I modded the crap out of mine with nam and such. I'm developing a north Minnesota region too. Minneapolis is my other million city.
3.33, you mean drops, it might have to do with an increase in wealthy and middle class housing, as oppose to jobs offered, that dynamic bites away at income.
@toplad2 Also try to lower air pollution, to get more wealthy residents--if you have a lot of dirty industry, try to phase it out and replace it with high-tech. But high-tech industries, besides education, require low pollution nearby, so you might need to destroy (by de-zoning) the existing dirty industries first, little by little. You can also raise taxes on dirty industry to discourage it, which will raise more revenue in the meantime, while lowering taxes on high-tech industry.
You can't because the game is like that and also the reason why it turns in abandoned buildings is cause the low or medium wealth residents turn into high wealth.
i built a city with population 400,000but no freeways or anything just put industrial in the south from corner to corner and placed bus satations 2 blocks away from each other all over traffic was good the city was threiving there was high middle class
Ad textures and mods... And circular roads... Beats city skylines hands down...rules taxes... And even as planting trees makes a difference in this game... Good old days
right now i have the largest map possible with a population of 70,000..BUT i spend 20,000 and make 41,000 (21,000) profit..saving up for 200 years to make 50 million simoloeans to build the ultimate city with huge highways, subways, and enormous infrastrucutre. i still power the city, get water to everyone, and have a landfill and coal plants far away, i have numerous toll booths too. right now alot of riots are happening idk why though lol oh well..ill destroy city and restart with 50 million.
That's because it's a way more complex game engine, and it wouldn't run smooth at all if they had the same size maps. Don't you people understand this?
im pretty sure 400,000 could never be a cheat lol...becaue ive seen some with 5 million...my largest city is like 400-500,000 or so...still got room in the map too.
Yeah i hate to be redundant, but every city in my region of 24 except 4 or 5 has a population of at least 500,000. And i noticed you have a lot of low density, empty space, excesses bridges, and most of your buildings are degraded down into low wealth, so a normal tower of 1,500 would be about 3,300 or so. So this really isn't that great... along with most of them on youtube
I wouldn't want to make a city like this without mods, the city just looks too...Maxiish and unrealistic.. My plugin folder stands at 2 gigs, and adding new stuff all the time. I cringe when I see those miniscule airports, repeating buildings, ugly palms, and lack of parking lots. I never tend to make massive cities though, tending to spend way too much time making a perfect realistic neighborhood or strip mall and end up with a town of 30k or so. That said, nice job
Your transportation map is complicated. I have a city of 477,000, no cheats or mods, and that doesnt have that. It's impressive but unnecessary maybe? I don't know anyway nice video.
@toplad2 Hmm...it's important to have good desirability for the different kinds of zones--low taxes aren't enough (and in fact my tax rates are higher than yours). Education is probably most important, because it increases demand for higher-paying jobs such as high-tech industry. So make sure there's elementary and high schools covering all residential zones, and that they're funded enough that capacity exceeds studnents; also have a college or two, and libraries.
The major thing that I miss about this game is its UI. So clean and balanced.
I don't mean to imply that this is the biggest or best city possible in SimCity 4 without cheats. I just thought it looked cool, and at the time I uploaded it I couldn't find anything like it on UA-cam because everything was modded.
Sir, this city is amazing. The best one on youtube by far. I salute you.
You've made such a well-rounded and diverse city using no mods, cheats or plugins. It just makes me so mad how people boast about their cities when it turns out they've just planted a tree and entered some code for success. Dumbasses.
Your transportation is very well organized for an ad-hoc system, you seem to have made something which adapts well to varying densities throughout the city.
Finally, I want to congratulate you once again for adapting to harsh, uneven terrain and building such a realistic city. A solution for your ferry problems could be to have ferry stations and commercial areas in other cities, so that people would have to commute using ferry.
Keep this up in the future. Put your mind to it and you will build amazing things, and show those cheaters who don't give the standard game credit.
Once you have raised manufacturing taxes, you can further balance your budget by replacing your utilities with neighbour deals. Having lots of coal power plants, water pumps, manufacturing industry, and waste to energy plants in another city will do wonders for residential demand, your budget, and your air pollution statistics.
Thirdly, you should have train stations to the side of railways. This drastically decreases commute time for subway and rail users.
I enjoyed the video. I mod because of realism. Slope modding and texture modding seem to blossom SimCity's true potential. I also love making waterfronts. Your video brings me back to the basic days of SimCity when I always lost to money issues ;-( Noce video!
That's GENIUS! Really, that's the first time I've ever heard of that strategy! :)
I really have to start thinking outside of the box with this game...
A few pointers I have:
Firstly, your parks and recreation budget is a little odd. The only reason you have for parks is to raise land value and break demand caps. Large plazas have the highest breaker per tile density, so it is ideal to use those so you can further increase your population.
Second, your tax policy is a little skewed. What I suggest is setting manufacturing to 20%. They rarely leave due to high taxes alone, and when the rest of your city grows, you can gradually phase it out.
I've been playing this game for over 10 years and have never managed a population over 80K without any mods or cheats. I used Fairview region initially provided by game. I recently started over in the same region and have been working on it for the past 3 months. I still go back to my initial start-up city/cities and realized my mistakes. Second time around is coming along well and still enjoy playing this game. I've never sped the game up. I like to go slow and don't build anything until sims ask for it. This way, sims dictate how the city/cities develop. It makes it more interesting and think designers created this to be played that way. Just my $0.02 on the game. Good day to all!
***** In region I have successfully managed over 700K in population. I am not doing anything wrong.
Really nice city, interresting layout and cool that you got all in one region (atleast I think so?). I wouldn't have patience to make everything in one region. It takes so long to develop everything. I always make 3-4 regions and have a total population over 500k within just a few hours and 1 million short thereafter!
Rush Hour is the expansion pack. It adds a bunch of new features to the game. Mainly transportation stuff. If you want Rush Hour you have to buy the expansion pack separately. Or buy SimCity 4 Deluxe, which combines both SimCity 4 and Rush Hour.
@77SumoMo77 Actually a lot longer than that. I did it little by little, off and on over a year or so. There were no neighbor cities originally so it took a while to build up demand. I keep trying to make incremental improvements by adding new transportation systems, etc.
hey i think your city looks great! better job than i could have done! usually i resort to alien invasion or tornadoes when my crime goes up
@airbus198 Rush Hour is an expansion pack to the original game, and can't be run by itself. Deluxe includes both the original game and the expansion pack.
thanks, well im re installing sim city 4 after all those years, when i first played i was a kid my city was an economic disaster, will play more seriously now to see if i can archieve this
Both of the music pieces are actually from the game.
great city man nice job!!
Very nice! looks lovely and orderly. I've hit around 400,000 once before, but lost the save :(
@111seeit The key is getting a high demand for them. They won't even be built unless the population is a certain amount, so you have to have a lot of residential zones first. Also, the population should be well-educated (that's also how you get high-tech industry). Having neighbor cities in the region can also affect the demand.
@toplad2
my experiences are that people are very much attracted by parks and recreational areas. if you build skateboard parks, tennis courts and parks a lot of people will want to live there. this allows you to build more houses.
Thanks everyone for all the feedback. Since posting this I haven't had much time for SimCity, but I did try to make this city bigger and the population actually declined somewhat. That just goes to show that I'm not an expert at this game, so I probably wouldn't be much help to those of you asking for advice. Anyway I don't think I'll do anything on this scale with SC4 again, but I'll definitely start playing the new SimCity when it comes out. Might also try The Sims 3, if I can find the time.
I've done a few cities with populations of 500,000+
Your subway system is more complex than my road system.
Man I miss this game
@toplad2 Also important are decent health care and fire coverage, and keeping crime tolerably low. And try to cut down on traffic congestion--use the "traffic" data view to see the most congested routes. Try building subway lines along the most crowded streets--just make sure they're useful routes that connect residents to jobs. And build a bus system too, to complement the subway system, with a bus stop by every subway station so people can transfer. Hope this helps.
@Surricks A year?! That's crazy. You did a great job!
yes: to make the train tunnel under the ground level highway, I used "lower terrain" to make little depressions on either side of it.
Very nice dude!
Making a city with a population of 400,000 is no challenge. The challenge lies in making it look as nice as this one does.
the city looks very good
What's the music starting at 3:26 ?
If the route passes through fewer stations, then it has to stop less frequently except for the passengers who want to get off, more like a bus.
Fourth, I noticed you had a large amount of police stations along with some jails. Crime coverage should be less nebulous and more evenly spread, but education is the real key to fighting crime. Using the moneysavers I've shown you, lower your taxes to accomodate the wealthy to promote rich growth, and splurge on educational facilities.
sometime you can just elevate a section of HWY too. Like just tear a section out...make it elevated fwy in the middle and connect the ends and then just run the tracks through. Looks like you had Freeway exits you didn't want to move though. Good job.
By water do you mean just water pipes connected to all your buildings or does making a river/lake have any advantages to your city?
Beautiful. My best so far is 230.000 but i'm still going!
@mariamole011 so much you can drive cars around ur city dload mods plus there are extra traffic options such as el rail monorail avenues one way roads
rush hour has more to do with traffic and transportation. it's kinda cool :)
Is the international airport still at "small" or was it upgraded to medium or large? Just curious. Regardless, amazing city! Congrats!
I think this would be amazing with only one mod, da slope mod. Makes things so much better.
how did you maked those big towers i cant do them even i choose production whichi is high towers and offices and it makes normal offices not so big as yours
This is for my friend Ahmets Simcituy
I really don't want to seem like a jerk, but c'mon. In what city is there residential zoned right next to the landfill? In what city is every street a speedway? In what city is there like 50 bridges?
400,000 is really easy? Takes like 45 minutes tops.
Yeah, I have a city with 300,000 people in a small tile... lol.
John Leonard It is a very cool city though
Jason, this is a 3 year old video you do realize that right?
jeffosoft Who cares he's voicing his opinion.
DoubleKhoceSammich
It wasn't an opinion it was statement and a jab at the video maker. Thanks for the feedback though, I found this randomly one night and it truthfully was/is fairly unnecessary and rude. I mean the game had just came out...I could care less either way though to be honest. it was just a random comment.
Your traffic is amazing
I liked this back in 2011
That's funny...I'm actually moving to Seattle this fall
*Looks at education*
THAT IS FUCKING HIGH!
It means that most of the occupants of that residence don't have a job.
awesome, dude
I remember when I was about nine I was amazing at this game, Mator rating at its highest with a population of 1.7 million, I have 3 copies of the duluxe edition lol.
Does simcity 4 different from rush hour or if u download simcity 4 u got the rushhour?
Then this game has a really nice soundtrack :D
@111seeit And make sure all your zones have water, or you won't get anything more than low- and middle- income houses, and no apartment buildings.
Em quanto tempo sua cidade ficou assim?
@Surricks cheers, nice vid btw
I got 1 million into a medium sized city, no cheats and I might make a video. My region has over 5 million people and its based on the Minneapolis metro.
Yeah same here when I was young, re installed this week, so far it's going O.K.
I have 540 000 people in my biggest city and 3 100 000 people in region. But it isn't hard to doo.
how do you get such high demand, ive been playing for a while made a million pop region and in my main city theres about 300K and the taxes are at about 8 each but there still aint no demand, i'm still yet to cheat but i just might cos theres just no demand. Any tips
I once built a city with 860,000 people... except it was on the medium sized plot. The traffis was HORRIBLE! :)
actually you can. the trick is to start with dirty industry, and then when you gain enough money, sacrifice them all (yeah, hella lot of money that you'll burn), and put parks in between. at the same time, raise dirty and manufacturing tax to rocket skyhigh, and you'll start to see hi tech industry booming everywhere. at that point, you're making tonnes of money due to hi-tech industry tax, even at average tax rate.
All you need is a snow day or like this labor Day Weekend filled with rain due to a hurricane. You're stuck indoors.....may as well go hardcore.
I ment 6.5 million but this is also a nice city, considering I modded the crap out of mine with nam and such. I'm developing a north Minnesota region too. Minneapolis is my other million city.
Gritty City
Is it possible at 3.53 without the NAM? :D
3.33, you mean drops, it might have to do with an increase in wealthy and middle class housing, as oppose to jobs offered, that dynamic bites away at income.
At 1:55 on the houses are suit cases, some houses have that in my city, why? What does it mean?
That means the sims at that location are having trouble finding access to jobs, usually because they are too far away or there aren't enough.
The square where youcan build your city in is WAY TO SMALL! The max I got was 100000, but then my city just looks bland and boring.
@toplad2 Also try to lower air pollution, to get more wealthy residents--if you have a lot of dirty industry, try to phase it out and replace it with high-tech. But high-tech industries, besides education, require low pollution nearby, so you might need to destroy (by de-zoning) the existing dirty industries first, little by little. You can also raise taxes on dirty industry to discourage it, which will raise more revenue in the meantime, while lowering taxes on high-tech industry.
But will it blend?
You can't because the game is like that and also the reason why it turns in abandoned buildings is cause the low or medium wealth residents turn into high wealth.
i built a city with population 400,000but no freeways or anything just put industrial in the south from corner to corner and placed bus satations 2 blocks away from each other all over traffic was good the city was threiving there was high middle class
I built a city with 600,000 population and bothered to make it look nice.
Ad textures and mods... And circular roads... Beats city skylines hands down...rules taxes... And even as planting trees makes a difference in this game... Good old days
nicee bro nice city
how can you create such a big region?
right now i have the largest map possible with a population of 70,000..BUT i spend 20,000 and make 41,000 (21,000) profit..saving up for 200 years to make 50 million simoloeans to build the ultimate city with huge highways, subways, and enormous infrastrucutre. i still power the city, get water to everyone, and have a landfill and coal plants far away, i have numerous toll booths too. right now alot of riots are happening idk why though lol oh well..ill destroy city and restart with 50 million.
Balanced budget?
You should join Owebama's cabinet.
how to avoid abandoned building guys please???i hate them
Congratulations--I barely have a million pop for all the regions...
That's because it's a way more complex game engine, and it wouldn't run smooth at all if they had the same size maps. Don't you people understand this?
That size city map is modded, that's not normal size
im pretty sure 400,000 could never be a cheat lol...becaue ive seen some with 5 million...my largest city is like 400-500,000 or so...still got room in the map too.
its a cool city who cares if it isnt millions its still awesome
fucken bought simcity5 nd i regret it there will never be another sim city like 4
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my largest city was ~3.000.000 without any mods and cheats
I once made 2 cities each 407,000!
with no mods
Yeah i hate to be redundant, but every city in my region of 24 except 4 or 5 has a population of at least 500,000. And i noticed you have a lot of low density, empty space, excesses bridges, and most of your buildings are degraded down into low wealth, so a normal tower of 1,500 would be about 3,300 or so. So this really isn't that great... along with most of them on youtube
does anyone know what song is this?
Simcity 4 - Zone System
I wouldn't want to make a city like this without mods, the city just looks too...Maxiish and unrealistic.. My plugin folder stands at 2 gigs, and adding new stuff all the time. I cringe when I see those miniscule airports, repeating buildings, ugly palms, and lack of parking lots. I never tend to make massive cities though, tending to spend way too much time making a perfect realistic neighborhood or strip mall and end up with a town of 30k or so. That said, nice job
I will try it :D
because that's my biggest problem, - lack of money, always :)
One city does and that is Venice Italy
On a big map it's easy, i can have 300, 000 people on a medium. Playing on Sim City 4 with mods is better than playing Sim City 5!
Don't the educators strike because of their "low budget"?
400,000....no shet? wao
Your transportation map is complicated. I have a city of 477,000, no cheats or mods, and that doesnt have that. It's impressive but unnecessary maybe? I don't know anyway nice video.
download??
My maximum is about 1,150,000... no water, though, and not near as pretty as this.
March 18, 2013
@toplad2 Hmm...it's important to have good desirability for the different kinds of zones--low taxes aren't enough (and in fact my tax rates are higher than yours). Education is probably most important, because it increases demand for higher-paying jobs such as high-tech industry. So make sure there's elementary and high schools covering all residential zones, and that they're funded enough that capacity exceeds studnents; also have a college or two, and libraries.