Interesting..... My clays double is a 20 bore game gun..... or a12 bore self loader.... bit of a contrast there. I also have a couple of S/S doubles, both by Hollis.... one a Damascus external hammer sidelock in which I only use black powder, and the other is a 'hammerless' one of later vintage they are both quite light compared to the more modern ones. I only shoot clays (and steel) these days...and yes I have a 20" 870 Remington for that, sights and all for slugs. I learn a lot from videos like yours, thanks... 🙂
Sporter for me all day long , just prefer the handling and weight for game and clays. Just got a sporter semi-auto to try too for pigeon shooting and rough shooting.
Any modern 3inch super steel proofed multi choke Sporter is the way to go for future driven Game Shooting. The heavier barrels/gun weight counter the increased recoil of modern usable/efficient high velocity steel cartridges that do work.
Pandemic lockdown and simple availibility made my choice for me, a beretta silver pigeon 1 game, 12 ga 30 inch. Only used for skeet, trap, and sporting clays. I love it and with no sporter to compare I can't imagine a better feel with a sporter. maybe I'll add 5 oz in the stock to see if a change of balance affects my opinion.
I bought a 525 game with 30 inch barrels, some years back, its my only clay gun, I used to shoot my old Merkel O/U, it just felt better balanced for me. Had a 325 years ago and didn't really get on with it.
I like both for different types of targets. For closer targets where you'll be moving faster, I prefer the faster handling lighter one; such as Skeet. But when the target's are farther out, I prefer the more stable heavier ones; like Trap and many Sporting Clay targets.
Nice video! I'm doing both clay shooting and hunting with my 725 sporter and it feels great on both. Recently I got a Merkel o/u, very different in handling and a lot lighter (about 450 grams). It mounts easier to me (probably because of the slightly shorter stock) but I do miss how steady the 725 keeps after each shot, even with heavy cartridges (34 and 36 grams).
I shoot a Citori game gun for clays right now, Mod choke. 1 1/8. 0z 8 shot Smashes the clays really good. Looking to get a Beretta DT11 32 this coming spring.
Thanks for another great video. Out of the shotguns that I own, my Browning Hunter grade 1 is my favorite. It’s the new model hunter that came out at the end of 2021. 12ga. 28” barrels, weighing in at 7pound 11 oz. I have no problem carrying it all day in the bird field or two round of sporting clay in a day. I’d love to see what your thoughts and opinion of the new model Browning hunter grade 1 is.
Hey, do you still have the hunter? If so hows it holding up? I was looking at a grade 1 and 2 hunter. Also looking at 725 field. This will be my first and only shotty so want to do it right once
@@kevinhood9781 Yes, I still have. It’s not my only one, but it’s my favorite one. It’s built like a typical browning. It’s a tank. I love it. And it’s the grade 1
I shoot a 28 inch 525 Sporter one that only has a front bead and a non-adjustable trigger, and an old Spanish side by side both at clays. They're not wrong when they say "put it in the right place and it'll break" 👍😀
I'm not as critical as the other commentators. My observation is it seems the game gun jumped more when being fired. More recoil = less control for follow-ons.
Sporters are carried less and shot more, game guns are carried more and shot less. It makes sense that game guns are lighter. Also, the stock on a sporter is often a Monte Carlo stock for rising trap targets.
My Beretta 686 has a problem with its ejectors, despite having shot at least 10000 shots they still stick from time to time and some ammunition stick always
I notice you don’t seem to swing through which is all I hear about in shooting videos. Are you stopping to shoot the clay or does it just look that way? Thanks, Lisa
I use a 30inch game mk60 for clay's between 100 and 200 a month also for walked up 4 days a year and 3 beaters days my logic being keep it simple and use the same gun for everything tried lumping a sporter round on a walked up day gets very waring so although I shoot more clay's than game the game gun works for me. Question would a 525 game shoot pretty much the same as my mk60 as I am told they are the same gun?
Hi Dave, was that a concrete bench you had those guns resting on?, your call but a rug under them wouldnt hurt, and always enjoy your content, cheers from Brisbane..
@@tonymorgan3526 no I don’t I’m still new to all this only ever been on one game day. I live in Birmingham so don’t think there is much in the West Midlands
@@Reggiejejshsb,there must be some farms near you somewhere, that are crying out for there pigeons to be shot as they are harvesting wheet and barley at the moment, just knock on their door mate you have nothing to lose
Hi from Sweden David. I have ordered a Browning B 725 sporter and i wonder if i can shoot slugs with it? I Will use 1/4 and 1/2 choke. Thank’s for nice videos
Walking around a pigeon field......what!!? Tell he's not done much pigeon shooting. Most people I know choose a sporter for game shooting also, they are heavier so they absorb the recoil of heavy game loads more, only thing is they tend not to have a auto safety catch, a decent gunsmith can modify this easily.
For someone who is looking to but their first gun, this is a very helpful video.
Interesting..... My clays double is a 20 bore game gun..... or a12 bore self loader.... bit of a contrast there. I also have a couple of S/S doubles, both by Hollis.... one a Damascus external hammer sidelock in which I only use black powder, and the other is a 'hammerless' one of later vintage they are both quite light compared to the more modern ones. I only shoot clays (and steel) these days...and yes I have a 20" 870 Remington for that, sights and all for slugs.
I learn a lot from videos like yours, thanks... 🙂
Cheers David 👍
Thanks Mike Yardley on your review on game Guns!
Sporter for me all day long , just prefer the handling and weight for game and clays.
Just got a sporter semi-auto to try too for pigeon shooting and rough shooting.
Well done sir. I have a Silver Pigeon 686 sporter that's primarily for sporting clays with and a bit of game.
Any modern 3inch super steel proofed multi choke Sporter is the way to go for future driven Game Shooting.
The heavier barrels/gun weight counter the increased recoil of modern usable/efficient high velocity steel cartridges that do work.
Pandemic lockdown and simple availibility made my choice for me, a beretta silver pigeon 1 game, 12 ga 30 inch. Only used for skeet, trap, and sporting clays. I love it and with no sporter to compare I can't imagine a better feel with a sporter. maybe I'll add 5 oz in the stock to see if a change of balance affects my opinion.
I have aBeretta s682 sporter and I use it for everything
Great video. Thank you!
Thank you for explaining this to me. I’m trying to decide on my next gun! He’s on a wood bench not cement. Listen closely when the guns touch the wood
Again thank you David.
great job!
I bought a 525 game with 30 inch barrels, some years back, its my only clay gun, I used to shoot my old Merkel O/U, it just felt better balanced for me. Had a 325 years ago and didn't really get on with it.
I like both for different types of targets. For closer targets where you'll be moving faster, I prefer the faster handling lighter one; such as Skeet. But when the target's are farther out, I prefer the more stable heavier ones; like Trap and many Sporting Clay targets.
Nice video! I'm doing both clay shooting and hunting with my 725 sporter and it feels great on both. Recently I got a Merkel o/u, very different in handling and a lot lighter (about 450 grams). It mounts easier to me (probably because of the slightly shorter stock) but I do miss how steady the 725 keeps after each shot, even with heavy cartridges (34 and 36 grams).
Great Review Cheers !!
I shoot a Citori game gun for clays right now, Mod choke. 1 1/8. 0z 8 shot Smashes the clays really good. Looking to get a Beretta DT11 32 this coming spring.
Thanks for another great video. Out of the shotguns that I own, my Browning Hunter grade 1 is my favorite. It’s the new model hunter that came out at the end of 2021. 12ga. 28” barrels, weighing in at 7pound 11 oz. I have no problem carrying it all day in the bird field or two round of sporting clay in a day. I’d love to see what your thoughts and opinion of the new model Browning hunter grade 1 is.
Hey, do you still have the hunter? If so hows it holding up? I was looking at a grade 1 and 2 hunter. Also looking at 725 field. This will be my first and only shotty so want to do it right once
@@kevinhood9781 Yes, I still have. It’s not my only one, but it’s my favorite one. It’s built like a typical browning. It’s a tank. I love it. And it’s the grade 1
I shoot a 28 inch 525 Sporter one that only has a front bead and a non-adjustable trigger, and an old Spanish side by side both at clays. They're not wrong when they say "put it in the right place and it'll break" 👍😀
What is with him and Yildiz?? I trust him but still afraid to buy one.
I'm not as critical as the other commentators. My observation is it seems the game gun jumped more when being fired. More recoil = less control for follow-ons.
Sporters are carried less and shot more, game guns are carried more and shot less. It makes sense that game guns are lighter. Also, the stock on a sporter is often a Monte Carlo stock for rising trap targets.
I can't believe there's a £45 a month joining subscription haha ddddaaammmmnnnn
AHH! To be fair....you do get a free cap!! 🤣🤣🤣
I thought A Sky subscription was expensive! For 600 channels!
Can listen to Ben Husthwaite for £5 a month, anyone would think there is a global recession.
He keeps asking how do we get more people into shooting, hmmm charge 45 pounds a month to watch UA-cam about shooting that will help 😂
@@forddude1976 Almost a slab of Comp X!
My Beretta 686 has a problem with its ejectors, despite having shot at least 10000 shots they still stick from time to time and some ammunition stick always
I'm probably wrong here but I was lead to believe a Game gun shoots flatter than a Sporter?
I notice you don’t seem to swing through which is all I hear about in shooting videos. Are you stopping to shoot the clay or does it just look that way? Thanks, Lisa
I use a 30inch game mk60 for clay's between 100 and 200 a month also for walked up 4 days a year and 3 beaters days my logic being keep it simple and use the same gun for everything tried lumping a sporter round on a walked up day gets very waring so although I shoot more clay's than game the game gun works for me. Question would a 525 game shoot pretty much the same as my mk60 as I am told they are the same gun?
In Australia the MK 70 and the 525 are the same. The MK70 has a varnish finish. The 525 an oil finish. I have the 525 sporter.
Man when u laid those stocks down on cement I just chringed
Its wood :)
please the version game and hunter are the same think ?
Would be interesting to have seen this comparison from lady/youth and compare result
I have a question, what's the difference between a beretta 694 sporter and trap other than extended chokes on the sporter please
Sir, please try to show the shot pattern of each shotgun
comb height difference , ?
Hi Dave, was that a concrete bench you had those guns resting on?, your call but a rug under them wouldnt hurt, and always enjoy your content, cheers from Brisbane..
This bench isn’t concrete it’s a soft wood :)
For many ordinary people you buy simple hunting guns with nonengraving and basic stock because you know it's gonna get beat.
I only use a side by side for game I think it’s more fun
I no what you mean, but don't you's it shooting pigeons over decoys, they get mega hot!!
@@tonymorgan3526 never been pigeon shooting would love to do it
@@Reggiejejshsb do you have access to go rough shooting, ie rabbit shooting etc?
@@tonymorgan3526 no I don’t I’m still new to all this only ever been on one game day. I live in Birmingham so don’t think there is much in the West Midlands
@@Reggiejejshsb,there must be some farms near you somewhere, that are crying out for there pigeons to be shot as they are harvesting wheet and barley at the moment, just knock on their door mate you have nothing to lose
Hi from Sweden David. I have ordered a Browning B 725 sporter and i wonder if i can shoot slugs with it? I Will use 1/4 and 1/2 choke. Thank’s for nice videos
Are you nuts? 🤣🤣🤣
@@Fendermanpaul I think he is!!!, he must be shooting wild boar or something, check out kentucky ballistics he's f#%@king nuts as well!! 😀😀😀😀
Yes be fine just use cylinder or 1/4
Yes, you can!
New guns getting rolled around on a concrete slab.... generally thats not a good idea
That bench is not concrete, it’s a soft woord
@@TSCTheshootingchannel whatever it is it's not padded so its a no from me
Walking around a pigeon field......what!!? Tell he's not done much pigeon shooting. Most people I know choose a sporter for game shooting also, they are heavier so they absorb the recoil of heavy game loads more, only thing is they tend not to have a auto safety catch, a decent gunsmith can modify this easily.
I don't think he meant literally walking round the field🤔
Cheers David 👍