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Is Vienna REALLY the world's most liveable city? Pro's & Con's from living here
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- We've lived in Vienna for 2 years now and we've been able to find many Pro's and Cons to living here. For the second year in a row, and the 10th time in total - Vienna has been named the most liveable city in the world, with Copenhagen and Melbourne coming in a close 2nd and 3rd.
The Austrian capital earned the top spot on the Economist Intelligence Unit's (EIU) annual ranking because of its stability, its robust health care and education systems and its strong infrastructure. From its rich cultural scene and culinary delights to the challenges and perks of day-to-day life, we'll be diving into the nitty-gritty of calling Vienna home.
Vienna offers an exceptional quality of life, but there are also some aspects you may want to consider if you're planning a move to this incredible city. Whether you're intrigued by Vienna's historical architecture or curious about its language barriers, we've got you covered with insightful tips and experiences to help you make an informed decision.
Let us know in the comments below if you've ever lived in Vienna or comments where your favourite city is and why?!
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00:00 Intro
01:15 1- The Culture, History & Architecture
02:15 2- Accessibility
02:54 3- Language
03:13 4- Cost of Living
03:46 5- Weather
04:30 6- Activities
05:08 7- Food & Cafe culture
06:05 8- Proximity to other EU countries
06:55 9- Cleanliness
07:33 10- Safety
08:13 Things we don't like
08:38 1- Stores closed on Sundays
09:33 2- Taxes
09:59 3- Bureaucratic Procedures
11:20 4- Variety in supermarkets
11:55 5- Nightlife
12:40 6- Job opps for non-German speakers
13:16 7- Wind
13:48 8- Hospitality
14:40 9- Overcrowding
15:12 10- Increasing Prices
15:51 Outro
As an Austrian: I like that Sundays are calm and quiet and not so stressed. I know that many people - especially when they are used to it - want to shop on Sundays, but I understand that no one wants to work then.
As an Austrian, I do not really see a language barrier here
1. There sare some open Supermarkets on Sunday in Vienna (Praterstern, FranzJosefs Bahnhof), but you can get the most important articles in gas stations. Most of them cooperate with the big supermarket chains Spar and Billa.
3. It's always strange when English-speaking people travel to other countries where English is not an official language and then demand it. In London, no official speaks German to me either.
4. Go around the Naschmarkt. There are some nice shops, where you can get many asian products, especially from China or South East Asia.
6. Well, we are not an english speaking Country. There are many people who don't want that all the time. There are also many people whose quality is simply not good enough for productive collaboration, and that's why many companies demand a certain level of German language skills. There are quite a few international companies where that isn't necessary, but it is limited. As with point 3 this applies in every country.
7. In summer, however, the wind is extremely important, otherwise the 36.38° in the shade would be unbearable.
9. There are many beautiful areas in Vienna, with nice coffee houses and where people like to live, away from the city center and Schönbrunn, where there are only tourists.
10. If you have the financial means, I would recommend buying a nice apartment. For example, with a loan for x years, as rents will be even higher in the next 5-10 years due to the extreme influx. Vienna is a beautiful City and they predict that the population will increase to 2.3 million in the next 26 years. By renewing the city everywhere and making it even more livable, this will certainly not lead to any loss of quality of life.
"they ask you how much you want to tip" - I'm Austrian, living in Vienna since 26 years, and never ever have I experienced this. possibly only in trourist traps? Most tourist traps are masked as "traditional austrian restaurants" ;)
YEEEP! 100% true!
About the language barrier: imagine moving to UK and pointing out that it is not easy to find a job without English knowledge :) of course it's not :)
yeah I agree, no matter which country you move to - if you don't speak the language spoken in that country, finding a job is going to be more difficult
Good point. Thanks for your feedback 🙏🏻
My partner and I are considering moving to Vienna in a few months. This was super informative, thank you :)
Glad it was helpful! Enjoy Vienna guys 😌
Ridiculous how many people make it their point to correct you guys, good job on dealing with all of those hater comments! Having lived here for almost 5 years now, I definitely can agree with you on many of the points that you are mentioning while disagreeing on some others, but it is your video, your perspective, your beliefs, and your personal experience. Appreciate you guys sharing about this beautiful city! All the best, Mila
I would say vienna is mostly safe.
Young men and women need to be aware of certain areas.
Especially young men.
Do not argue or get provoked by young muslim men.
If they get you into a fight they will bring more ppl.
It is not as bad as in germany yet but it is getting there
It was a bit hard to understand but I guess you said "Schlosspark is the biggest Park in Vienna" = No it isn´t, not even close.
The by far biggest Park in Vienna is the "Prater" in the 2nd District Leopoldstadt = 6 square kilometers of natural greenery (includes riparian forests + 12 huge meadows + 7 lentic waters (= 7 former natural sidearms of the River Danube before the Danube River was laid into a man-built riverbed in the 19th century in order to protect the city from floods) + additionally imbedded are the Prater Amusement Park with its old Giant Ferris Wheel + the National Football Stadium + a horse race course + a horse trotting track for hamess racing) and till the 17th hundreds it was the Emperor´s private hunting ground and in 1766 it became a public park = an Emperor´s gift for the public..
Followed by "Lainzer Tiergarten" in the 13th district Hietzing = 2,4 square kilometers of natural greenery of forests and meadows + free living Wildlife (foremost deers of different kinds + also few boars if you are lucky to see them) also a former aristocratic hunting ground before it became a public park after WW1.
Then there is also the "Donauinsel/Danube Island" which is 21 km long + 250 meters wide which is also an entire public greenery zone for hiking + biking + jogging + swimming/sunbathing
The Schlosspark has 1,6 square kilometers including all the buildings + including the Zoo for which you have to pay a ticket for the entry. Schlosspark is just Vienna´s biggest "gardens with flowerbeds" but it is not the biggest public park.
And according to the taxes there are also lots of tax-returns as well where the goverment is paying back money (the more taxes you pay the more you will get back) - if - you do your tax avaraging which you can do yearly. But it is a huge bunch of paperwork of course but those high earners who have to pay those mentioned 40% are hireing a tax accountant to do that stuff for them anyway.
Thanks for your feedback 🙏🏻
Prater Allee , you have right , also top for some short distance cycling
1) Closed shops on sundays are only a problem for people who are not organized.
2) How do you think we pay for the clean city, the best public transportation in the world, the safety, the super well maintained infrastructure, one of the best performing health care system and one of the best social nets in the world? Shit is not free. I gladly pay this.
3) I highly doubt that if you go to most government institutions in the world that they all have people who speak very good english. For example in Switzerland we have been to tourist informations (!) where they speak neither english nor german...
4) Supermarkets have standardized assortments. Most of the big ones don't sell many exotic things. These are sold at specialized places. The main reason why we don't have many foreign brands (like chocolates and sweets from the USA for example) is simply because those SUCK. We have quality standards here.
5) Research more. There are places for every kind of music in the city. There's nothing you can't find.
6) Have fun finding a job in France without speaking french. Or a job in Russia without speaking russian. Or a job in China without speaking chinese. Etc.pp. This is the same issue around the world.
7) Wind? Really?
8) I'm 43, born and raised here, never had this happen in any restaurant in Vienna.
9) Crowds? Haha. I have a sister in law from Chengdu in China. The first few years she said it's so silent here, because there's so few people. And you have to reserve in POPULAR restaurants? Oh my god, that does not happen anywhere else in the world! Usually POPULAR restaurants are always half empty so that you can get a seat whenever you like. It's not like there are top restaurants where you have to wait for YEARS to get a table...
10) Show me ONE place in the world which does not get more expenisve.
So basically there are ZERO Con's to living in Vienna. Except one, which you did not mention. Too many turkish people who do not even try to integrate into our society. Because that's something you are not allowed to say...
Ich lebte 5 Jahre in London und das Essen war nicht wirklich gut - allgemein jetzt betrachtet.
Als ich in London lebte, und Deutsch gesprochen hätte, dann hätten mich alle komisch angesehen (welcome to Austria - a german speaking country :)
Ich lebe in Wien, bin 38 Jahre, die meiste Zeit in Österreich verbracht und habe noch nie erlebt das jemand von mir Trinkgeld verlangt hätte oder beleidigt war das ich vielleicht zu wenig davon gegeben habe (kann natürlich passieren - auch Österreicher sind nicht perfekt und manchmal arrogant). Manche Länder sind so dreist das sie das Trinkgeld schon in der Rechnung stehen haben das man als Kunde nicht mal selbst entscheiden kann wie viel man Trinkgeld geben möchte.
Aber natürlich gibt es auch Nachteile. Leider kann man es keinem recht machen. Aber es ist schön das ihr euch für Wien entschieden habt :) Willkommen in der lebenswertesten Stadt der Welt!
Lol we have the same couch! I love Vienna. I don’t think I’ll ever move. I can’t imagine a life where Vienna is not my base. I love travelling, but I love coming back to Vienna. I realise how close to perfect it is, and I have not seen any place I feel 100 comfortable in.
We agree with you, Vienna has it all!
Rents didn't rise due to popularity, but because they are indexed to inflation, which has been high..
Thanks for info 😊
Welcome 😊
Hi, nice video. ❤I think it is a very good summary. I personally don’t think the city is overcrowded but it might depend on where you live and what you like to do. Also tips are not mandatory, many people don’t tip. That said service in restaurants is hit and miss for sure. 😅
I totally agree! Thanks for your feedback Tomasz 🙌🏻
Great video 👌🏻
Thanks for the visit
why do you guys expect that during resolving your residential issues with the authorities they should speak english? If you can't speak German, bring the translator. They live in a german-speaking country, working on a governance job, they don't have to speak english, just because it's easier for you. i moved here 6 years ago. On the very first meetings in all these authorities i hired a translator. Why do i need to bother these people and ask them to speak english. Really should not be in a cons list. And shop working hours. Really? What's so hard to do shopping on the Saturday morning or Friday and have a free weekend?
Actually, shops being closed on the weekend is a GOOD sign. That means that you are in a country that respects workers and takes their rights seriously. They ensure that everyone gets at least one day off, instead of being exploited like in most other countries
I really appreciate your time considering all the main pros and cons about Vienna.
I have just received permission to start my third master's degree in Vienna, and I am very worried if I will be able to find a job there. 😅😅
Don’t worry, you will find it 100%
@@Maya_and_Danny I am very thankful for your comment 🙏
Wishing you guys more success))
Vienna is a fascinating city ❤
It is 😍
About the negatives:
Taxes: to fund such nice activities, public spaces, low rent housing, public transportation and so on, a lot of taxes are needed. I think in Vienna you get your value back
English: They do not speak English very well and they coud (and probably should) improve, but in most UK cities you wouldn't even think of asking for
German when doing paperwork. Austria is a German speaking country, so if someone doesn't speak English, you can't blame them for that. The same goes for jobs, most jobs in a German speaking country will require german, for logical reasons.
Shopping on Sundays: the fact that shops are closed on Sundays should be a positive thing. Austria takes workers rights very seriously and they want to ensure that everyone gets at least a day off. It's the best way of avoiding complete exploitation like in a lot of other countries (looking at you, USA)
I do agree with your other negative points, especially nightlife, hospitality and wind. But these three just seem like you want all the benefits without contributing anything. That is not very fair to everyone that cares and works to keep a city as complex and nice as Vienna running
Come on I mean English is a world spoken language and in my opinion it should be implemented especially in bureaucratic procedures no matter what. English is very well spoken in countries like Sweden or Finnland and they do not require their native languages for foreigners in comparison to Austria.
Beautiful city.
It really is!
An annual pass is €365,- per year .. not €265,-
Correct 365€/year 1€/day
365e if you pay all at once or 396e (in total) if you opt for a monthly payment (33e per month)
Also I would like to know if It would be easy to move somewhere if I will be thinking to move to another english speking country in the Europe after completing studies here in Vienna.
Thank you
It will be, you might need a company to sponsor you
Since when is austria an englishspeaking countrey?
Hi.. Maya and Danny.. just watched your this one video. I found it very much helpful as I will be moving to Vienna in the coming few months.. I am just worried about the part time jobs for students. Speacially when I am coming from Asia and english speaking nations. Can you or anyone in the comments section reply with honest reviews. I am still confused about this point.
You will be fine with just English mostly
Hi! I agree with Danny and Maya that your English should be enough (for the first couple of months I would say though), but the exact language skills requested will be determined more by the field of work that you will be applying for. E.g. working at a restaurant part-time as a student could be a bit trickier if you don’t speak any English at all, whereas working at an international marketing firm could be a bit easier language-wise. Also, consider that as a student (BA or MA or even PhD in most cases), the work limit is 20h/week (unless the job is directly connected to the degree you’re getting), and you would have to fight AMS (Austrian work market) for quite some time to prove to them that you really need this job. Sometimes, it can take several months just to get an okay from AMS for you to work at a restaurant. I would definitely suggest considering international organizations and/or working online. Best of luck in your move to Vienna and I’m sure you’ll love it here! Mila
1:51 Renaissance architecture not so much - rather recommend Florence or Prague on that. Maybe you meant baroque architecure?
10:04 Dont get me started
PS: Nice tats!
Yes you are right, we meant Baroque 😅
Supermarkets why should we have more asian and indian food? That is bad for the inviroment! The food we got from other countreys is already a big problem, quality (espezialy chinease fruits that is a health risk) transportation is bad for everyone. So crazy in my eyes when people want nore globaly shiped goots so the world can suffer more. Crazy. Opening hours? A christian countrey that protects there labour workers is a bad thing becouse you are spoilt? Wow just wow. High taxes? Yeas they are high - but guess why the quality of living is wo high too. Shaking my head about ignorant stuff people are thinking. The best thing is wondering why a german speaking countrey whants people with german skills? Wow so can i get a job in italy or uk with only german? No realy who would have thought so?
Good point. Thanks for your feedback 🙏🏻
School visa in viana plz
Pls, I’m thinking of migrating to Austria. I’m a Nigerian btw. So I want to know, can I get part time job while i School? If yes, how easy is it, considering the Langauge barrier? I will be waiting for your reply. Thanks
For a hospitality job, you should be good just with English.
You need to inform the school and they have to be okay with it.
If it is part time keep in mind that you will have to pay an extra fee for the health insurance
bro lower the music volume
Pro's: if you live in Favoriten, you don't need German.
Con's: if you live in Favoriten, you can easily get stabbed.
The city has relatively lower 'rent cost' and offers affordable transportation. BUT all other things are much expensive than any other place in Europe, even market, clothing, cosmetics, bikes, eating, cafe... everything is more expensive %10-30 UP
That is true, saving on rent though makes a big difference, since the other things you mentioned are optional.
Thats not true. If you compare the costs for food, its cheaper then in Germany. In Austria we dont have so much garbage low quality food from Niedersachsen and if you compare the quality its cheaper in Austria.Costs for Internet and your phone is far cheaper in Austria. There are some ranges where its more expensive then in Germany, but if you sum it up, the first mentioned products are more important.
@@mikkyo3509 Austria or Vienna :) It is not the same, this is a city comparison.
Come on, we are the most liveable city and the most angriest city...
Deal with it....
Oh just an edit, oida i was net
Oh yeah, opening times are terrible here in Vienna
True 😅
Why isn't this "terrible" for ALL Austrians, Germans....? Hm? - What do all the sales staff - and their relatives - who have Sunday off say about this?
@@petersfluege For me as a consumer it’s terrible because when I am working the shops are open and when I am done and want to go into the city after work to buy/get something then most shops are closed. So I can only go shopping on Saturday when the city is crowded with people. When you have lived in other cities too where all shops are open till at least 9 pm then you know how convenient this can be ;)
@@marijanWS It might be more convenient for consumers, but I prefer knowing workers get one more day off. It really isn't necessary at all, and there are still a few shops open on sundays even. Workers shouldn't sacrifice their free time for small convenieces like that, the customer is king mentality is kinda fucked up.
@@marijanWS Hi, yes, it's maybe "convenient" for you.
BUT, 1. On Sundays and public holidays, ALL families can be together, including all the sales staff.
2. We know that small businesses cannot afford to open on Sundays. It's the big businesses that do. The small businesses die. You and your aunt won't be able to start a business.
I lived in Austria for 48 years, 3 years in Germany and 12 years in Switzerland. I have never heard a European say that they want to shop on Sundays/public holidays (except December). You have to understand the bigger picture...
hahaha the wind lol and nightlife look at u don´t come in any club in whole europe be patient once u also be adults ;-)