The Atheist Experience 26.41 with Forrest Valkai and Dave Warnock

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  • @tedweird
    @tedweird Рік тому +90

    I love how Diana advocates killing people that don't agree with her, but then asks why atheists would be concerned with believers doing as they please

    • @DanielRodriguez-zj5il
      @DanielRodriguez-zj5il 5 місяців тому +3

      Sure, advocated for the truth when she accused the hosts of strawmanning her position by using something she just said.

  • @dash-
    @dash- Рік тому +137

    Diana is an absolute monster, what a shocking call.
    Dave, Forrest, this was a fantastic show and while current events have put a bit of a damper on things, I am still very glad to continue with the AxP with the quality represented here by the both of you.

    • @ezbody
      @ezbody Рік тому

      @@kenyunpeterson1758
      There are tons of people like that. This is exactly the type of excuses that Russia is using right now for slaughtering the Ukrainian people.
      People's minds are very malleable, if you isolate a group of people long enough, you can make most of them believe practically anything, you can even make them believe several contradictory ideas at the same time.

    • @dernwine
      @dernwine Рік тому +19

      Here's the thing, the Massacre at Ayyadieh? That she says was moral? Was seen as Immoral and horrific BY THE PEOPLE ALIVE AT THE TIME. In fact there was a significant number of people that believed a lot of King Richards subsiquent issues (whether failing to capture Jerusalem or being taken prisoner on his way home) was god's punishment for his crimes at Ayyadieh.
      So when the actual Medieval Christian Crusaders think something is horrible, but you're saying "Hey yeah that's fine," think about how fucked up you are.

    • @debmary2999
      @debmary2999 Рік тому +6

      She was hopefully a troll and didn’t actually believe anything she said.

    • @ArcadiaJade
      @ArcadiaJade Рік тому +2

      Oh, I really, really hope she was trolling. What a complete loon. Just disgusting to justify such horrible acts in the name of what you believe. Sick.

    • @stevensilvester183
      @stevensilvester183 Рік тому +1

      Wow I’m from England and can’t believe what I’m listening to ,I don’t believe she really thinks like that ,this is religion and what it does to people,it’s so sad that this is even allowed to be taught to children,wait till there 18 then see if they believe it ,I think not

  • @brittneybennett3429
    @brittneybennett3429 Рік тому +219

    Something worth remembering:
    "This God may judge you, but his sins far outnumber your own" -Forrest Valkai

    • @Conan_the_rastafarian
      @Conan_the_rastafarian Рік тому

      Who is Forrest Valkai?

    • @jquest99
      @jquest99 Рік тому +29

      @@Conan_the_rastafarian Forrest Valkai is the guy that said:
      "This God may judge you, but his sins far outnumber your own"

    • @Conan_the_rastafarian
      @Conan_the_rastafarian Рік тому +1

      @@jquest99 Well, I'm the guy that said "everything I say and think is true and important"

    • @jquest99
      @jquest99 Рік тому +16

      @@Conan_the_rastafarian Are we playing Jeopardy? If so, the question is:
      Who is jess d?

    • @Conan_the_rastafarian
      @Conan_the_rastafarian Рік тому +3

      @@jquest99 Just a mere human like you and Forrest. We probably vary in opinions and views, so which one of us is right?

  • @ItsThatRebz
    @ItsThatRebz Рік тому +144

    Holy shit. I can’t believe I was ever that brainwashed.
    Thank you for a great show, Forrest and Dave!

    • @Authenticallyathena
      @Authenticallyathena Рік тому +4

      I was thinking that about myself earlier today. I'm so glad I've come as far as I have.

    • @teve90
      @teve90 Рік тому +3

      Almost burned my eyeballs trying to find the sungod when i was younger

    • @susanheard4843
      @susanheard4843 8 місяців тому +2

      Ha! It feels like it must have been a different person at times

  • @jerklecirque138
    @jerklecirque138 Рік тому +55

    Always a pleasure to see Dave on the show. He always forces the caller to answer "what is your question *really*?", "what are you trying to say?", "why is this important to you?", etc.

  • @christianbergmann8114
    @christianbergmann8114 Рік тому +74

    Forrest is just really awesome. I follow him on UA-cam as well.
    He's smart, respectful and doesn't take bullshit. Also, he's delightful like a super unicorn from space.

  • @guygenius138
    @guygenius138 Рік тому +421

    Diana - It's amazing how quick people with "objective morals" are exposed for having no morals at all.

    • @kidslovesatan34
      @kidslovesatan34 Рік тому +46

      Yep, they call in specifically to talk about morality and then self implode in spectacular fashion. Also was an atheist 😂🤦‍♂️

    • @SeanRyno
      @SeanRyno Рік тому

      Objective morals exist. Of course.
      Absolute puritanical morals don't exist. Of course.

    • @matthalaboo6694
      @matthalaboo6694 Рік тому +82

      That's because for people like her "objective morals" is code for obedience to authority.

    • @joemiller7082
      @joemiller7082 Рік тому +37

      I don’t understand how morals given to you by god are better than ones society gives itself to coexist and run better?

    • @cnault3244
      @cnault3244 Рік тому +37

      If that's true, why haven't Christians eliminated famine, disease, murder, etc. Or is Jesus only able to help you find your keys....sometimes..... But only if you keep looking for them?

  • @curbroadshow
    @curbroadshow Рік тому +28

    “Remember everybody, their god may judge you, but his sins far outnumber your own”
    What a quote.

  • @steverowe1662
    @steverowe1662 Рік тому +67

    In my opinion, this was one of the best episodes by far. There was no where for the callers to hide; many true colors showed up…

  • @helicopterharry5101
    @helicopterharry5101 Рік тому +115

    3 Questions to answer before you go on the show:
    1) Is the Earth flat?
    2) Is it okay to own someone? (Edited)
    3) Was it ever okay to kill people because they worship a different god or have no god?
    If you answered yes, don't call the show. We can't help you. Saves everyone time.

    • @williammiller3277
      @williammiller3277 Рік тому +10

      Matts gone. Biblical slavery justifiers rejoice!!!!!

    • @ichsehsanders
      @ichsehsanders Рік тому +15

      4. You want to preach and don't want to be challenged on your precious beliefs

    • @Darius-kl3jk
      @Darius-kl3jk Рік тому +2

      LoL, I mean, it's entertaining

    • @Godlimate
      @Godlimate Рік тому

      Although, slavery was okay because it was justified by the standards within a certain era.
      We do the same thing of justifying our standards based on our own setting.
      In fact, our society still follows the same slave dynamic towards animals since we exclude a variety of them from having any moral standing.
      I don’t think you can really say “slavery is always wrong” if you follow the standards of a society that condones slaughterhouses. Not to mention, buying commodities outsourced from countries practicing child labour. We are far from perfect, and I don’t think we can ever say that something can ever be wrong if we are going to be a bit hypocritical about it.

    • @butkusfan23
      @butkusfan23 Рік тому +18

      @@Godlimate you would know it was wrong just by asking the slaves. They would have always said it was wrong to buy and sell them like cattle.
      And the issue with biblical slavery is that believers say god is love and all loving, but his word clearly says he told his people they can buy humans and pass them to their children as property. A god of love and compassion and wisdom should have known better than to say you can buy people. That’s the issue.
      So no. It was never ok.

  • @knutthompson7879
    @knutthompson7879 Рік тому +55

    Yes I will miss Matt, but Forrest is a wonderful host and it is always good to see Dave on.

  • @adamgrayskull1587
    @adamgrayskull1587 Рік тому +201

    Props to both of these guys for not letting people off the hook when they tried to not answer the question.

  • @TheVallin
    @TheVallin Рік тому +5

    I wish people would understand that Philosophical Arguments are ment to raise QUESTIONS, not ANSWERS. Hence why any time you hear a Philosophical argument you tend to have questions... Philosophy isn't evidence. Philosophy teaches critical thinking, close reading, clear writing, and logical analysis. Those things can be used to find Evidence, but do not replace evidence.

  • @Kenzaki1010
    @Kenzaki1010 Рік тому +35

    “Oh why don’t you just left people believe what they want to believe?!” Diana and Ruben are the prime example of why it hard to sometime.

    • @Julian0101
      @Julian0101 Рік тому

      The fun part about diana's excuse was that killing people because they dont believe what christians believed (aka. not allowing people believe what they want to believe) is exactly what the cruzades were about.
      As usual, theists dont have more than projection.
      Glad to see forest engaging with her exactly as she deserved it.

    • @alvarogoenaga3965
      @alvarogoenaga3965 Рік тому

      How are you going to stop people believing anything at all, however ridiculous? Impossible. Maybe a lobotomy ( ala Orange Clockwork) could do the trick, but that is out of the question.
      You, or I , or anyone for that matter can't " let" anyone believe what other gets convinced of.

    • @alvarogoenaga3965
      @alvarogoenaga3965 Рік тому

      * I meant "A clockwork Orange"

  • @TBomb39
    @TBomb39 Рік тому +83

    They did Matt wrong.
    Edit: I will still watch and support this channel, as well as Matt's. I just don't like how Matt was treated. I should have made that clear. Sorry.

    • @chrisgrimard7834
      @chrisgrimard7834 Рік тому +16

      Certainty sounds like it. Won't be supporting ACA or their youtube channels.

    • @andrewpagan6266
      @andrewpagan6266 Рік тому +22

      @@chrisgrimard7834 Matt literally said not to pull your support from the ACA and that everyone who worked on these shows wasn't the problem 😫 The organization doesn't appear to be at the point yet where they're doing more harm then good either, their leadership is just pulling a soviet union

    • @rekkwaffle7668
      @rekkwaffle7668 Рік тому +15

      @@andrewpagan6266 he said to do whatever you feel like doing actually. He just recommended continuing to support them. Which I also won't be doing any longer

    • @Kayceesoutdoorliving
      @Kayceesoutdoorliving Рік тому +11

      @@andrewpagan6266 Matt literally said decide for yourself.
      "Support them, support me, support both, support neither." Was what he said I believe. He said do not harass the ACA for doing what they did to him.
      Either way I've unsubbed from the ACA which I probably should have done over a year ago because I quit watching the content they were producing.

    • @lavenderteal8485
      @lavenderteal8485 Рік тому

      How?

  • @garrybooker
    @garrybooker Рік тому +136

    Forrest, you are an awesome host. And you have the best guest.

    • @Steelmage99
      @Steelmage99 Рік тому

      @Technic Unsupported nonsense of questionable provenance is unconvincing.

    • @tubester4567
      @tubester4567 Рік тому

      Im not impressed with Forrest. He has a religious-like ideology around gender that is very unscientific. ACA is doomed.

    • @scambammer6102
      @scambammer6102 Рік тому

      @@Steelmage99 yes you are

    • @Steelmage99
      @Steelmage99 Рік тому

      @@scambammer6102 Did you notice who I was responding to?

    • @ctwentysevenj6531
      @ctwentysevenj6531 Рік тому +1

      Forrest is great. I really enjoy his videos on his own channel and a guest on ACA.

  • @soundmindwar
    @soundmindwar Рік тому +83

    So happy Forrest joined the team. Absolutely amazing in his understanding and explanations. Big fan

    • @Steelmage99
      @Steelmage99 Рік тому +1

      @Technic Unsupported nonsense of questionable provenance is unconvincing.

    • @Steelmage99
      @Steelmage99 Рік тому

      @@markshepperson3603 Did you see who I was responding to?

    • @alandgomez5905
      @alandgomez5905 Рік тому

      Same

  • @josephmurphy7522
    @josephmurphy7522 Рік тому +47

    Forrest is one of my favorite humans.

  • @tinystegosaurus587
    @tinystegosaurus587 Рік тому +21

    Holy shit, the Aussie was the only one today who wasn't a nutter

    • @reaver11122
      @reaver11122 Рік тому +5

      After his topic was read out, I was expecting a lunatic, but wow I loved him

  • @BaronVonQuiply
    @BaronVonQuiply Рік тому +97

    I had just commented to myself that Diana didn't sound like a bad person, just misinformed... and then she dropped the Murder Is Fine If They Disagree pearl.
    Such an evil woman..

    • @SPL0869
      @SPL0869 Рік тому

      She’s extremely evil. One can only hope that she never gives birth. What type of life will that poor kid have with a mother like her?

    • @doneestoner9945
      @doneestoner9945 Рік тому +6

      I agree.

    • @jquest99
      @jquest99 Рік тому +5

      I LOVE that ELO song!
      Ha, ha, woman, what you gonna do?
      You destroyed all the virtues that the Lord gave you

    • @BaronVonQuiply
      @BaronVonQuiply Рік тому +2

      @@jquest99 I admit that I too, was singing that in my head after posting.

    • @Johnboy33545
      @Johnboy33545 Рік тому

      She's just a typical well-indoctrinated Catholic. She was, too me, obvious from the start.

  • @ginagasior9414
    @ginagasior9414 Рік тому +93

    Matt is the GOAT..BUT Dave/Forrest..You guys are DEFINITELY on Your Way..the last 3 callers WERE moral hypocrites and You TOTALLY let them Know..TY

    • @mothandrust
      @mothandrust Рік тому +2

      Hocus pocus blah blah blah 😂

    • @freddan6fly
      @freddan6fly Рік тому +8

      @Technic Why are you preaching in the comment section? No-one believes you and you just show you are full of yourself.

    • @edluckenbill9382
      @edluckenbill9382 Рік тому

      Ego driven piece ---

    • @jquest99
      @jquest99 Рік тому +6

      @Technic Are you saying that Matt, having been persecuted, will inherit the kingdom of Heaven?

  • @anthonyxgreer
    @anthonyxgreer Рік тому +335

    I miss Matt already 😢

    • @GrandChupon
      @GrandChupon Рік тому +33

      Same but I feel if we get a good bit of Forrest we'll be good. He seems to have to same answer my question no nonsense attitude Matt does.

    • @mackhomie6
      @mackhomie6 Рік тому +16

      What happened to Matt?
      These two are really good, too. Dave is supremely likeable and Forrest knows his shit, and the same cannot be said for all the hosts

    • @knivesron
      @knivesron Рік тому +12

      We all do. But these two are awsome

    • @Scocelectric
      @Scocelectric Рік тому +14

      Yeah. Unsubscribing. Pretty big fail from the ACA.

    • @brianfergus839
      @brianfergus839 Рік тому +14

      @@mackhomie6 Matt has removed himself from the ACA. You should check out his latest video if you wonder… you wonder… you wonder… you wonder

  • @calvinmusquez9162
    @calvinmusquez9162 Рік тому +27

    Charles: *screams about some batshit insane stuff*
    Forrest: Funky!
    I fucking love Forrest xD

    • @CristianML40
      @CristianML40 Рік тому +2

      😂

    • @delbomb3131
      @delbomb3131 Рік тому +6

      Even if it was all 100% true, presented like that you'd question anything they said. Teach spot on elementary math like that and I'd question if he was correct about 6X5=30 lol

    • @andrewsad1
      @andrewsad1 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@delbomb3131 3X5 is 15, 8X5 is 40, it's all connected

  • @NiklasMX
    @NiklasMX Рік тому +23

    Forrest and Dave are great together! Thank you so much!

  • @mikevelazquez5413
    @mikevelazquez5413 Рік тому +40

    They forgot to change the intro and had left the name of Matt Dillahunty as the host. AWKWARD!!! Not sure if anyone else noticed. That's why the video went private for some good time after the live show ended. Now it is correct.

    • @MMAGamblingTips
      @MMAGamblingTips Рік тому +5

      Haha yea, I seen this. I posted about the oof before seeing your post. Hilarious.

    • @Dreamprism
      @Dreamprism Рік тому +2

      I was at work when this originally aired, but I did notice the time it was posted looked more recent than it should be, so thanks for the clarification.

    • @highroller-jq3ix
      @highroller-jq3ix Рік тому

      It's not really a big deal, is it?

    • @Dreamprism
      @Dreamprism Рік тому

      @@highroller-jq3ix not really, imo, but I was still curious

    • @highroller-jq3ix
      @highroller-jq3ix Рік тому +1

      @@Dreamprism A simple mistake without any larger implications, maybe?

  • @az8theist977
    @az8theist977 Рік тому +40

    Charles: "I didn't see any Martians!" was the funniest thing on the internet today.

    • @BootBizarre
      @BootBizarre Рік тому

      They are a far superior species with advanced detection avoiding technology, so of course you're not going to see them until they abduct you and probe you! 😏

    • @dirkschmid1045
      @dirkschmid1045 Рік тому +5

      It always amazes me that they seem to miss blind as day common sense logic

    • @Stasiaflonase
      @Stasiaflonase Рік тому +3

      Especially when he was asked if he ever saw god. No quick answer there.

    • @Heathen.Deity.
      @Heathen.Deity. Рік тому +1

      I have no idea what Charles put on his cornflakes that morning, but it was strong.

    • @indiglo1971
      @indiglo1971 Рік тому

      @@Stasiaflonase Are you a female?

  • @Pyromantic_King
    @Pyromantic_King Рік тому +153

    Love you Matt, stay strong, and carry on.

    • @Steelmage99
      @Steelmage99 Рік тому +3

      @Technic Unsupported nonsense of questionable provenance is unconvincing.

    • @tmurphy0919
      @tmurphy0919 Рік тому

      @@ookeekthelibrarian Unfortunately, that won't do a damn thing but block his post from sight. UA-cam won't act unless legal action is threatened. I flagged a video for electrical tips and hacks because they included several methods that would harm or kill someone. It's still running unedited because 2.7 million views.

  • @Tina-qn6pq
    @Tina-qn6pq Рік тому +10

    Diana is so smug that is nauseating to listen to her.

  • @km666
    @km666 Рік тому +34

    For anyone who is amazed that Hershel Walker is still in the race, listen to the last 3 calls and understand that these people vote. Really let it sink in.

    • @jquest99
      @jquest99 Рік тому +4

      There could be some new revelation that he has kicked puppies for sport and he will still get the same level of support from the voters.😮‍💨
      So frustrating that politicians from some parties can now be unaffected by scandals that would have destroyed political careers in the not distant past.

    • @alandgomez5905
      @alandgomez5905 Рік тому +2

      Fuck me lol. Are you saying you'd rather be a vampire 😂?!

    • @BandiGetOffTheRoof
      @BandiGetOffTheRoof Рік тому

      Why jump on Hershel Walker?? It's his opponent who is the religious preacher man.

    • @alandgomez5905
      @alandgomez5905 Рік тому

      @@BandiGetOffTheRoof Damn lol. If you have to ask...

    • @heyidaroo
      @heyidaroo Рік тому

      @@alandgomez5905 I am because I’m cooooooool people

  • @jaquez550
    @jaquez550 Рік тому +9

    In my opinion Dave has risen to be one of my favorite hosts. He tries to keep the callers on track and is direct. Also has the ability to shorten responses. Thank you Dave I hope we have you around for a lot longer.
    Forrest, I think needs some work. Definitely a very intelligent individual and I love hearing his points. Unfortunately, I think the responses are too lengthy. He needs to get better at shortening his answers to callers because he seems to be lecturing, also cuts into Dave's responses sometimes.
    Overall great stuff, thank you ACA for the content.

  • @GSP-76
    @GSP-76 Рік тому +163

    I will truly miss Matt. He's been an invaluable contributor to this show but I absolutely support his decision and I really hope to see some great content from him going forward.
    That said, our hosts on The Atheist Experience are really awesome folks. I have no doubt guys like Forrest and Dave will do an amazing job. Keep up the great work guys!

    • @girlfromlacounty
      @girlfromlacounty Рік тому +12

      Am I the only one who won’t miss the way Matt handled callers. Constantly interrupting, telling them to shut up, dismissing their explanations before they can even get to the point. He was so rude.

    • @michelegoremg
      @michelegoremg Рік тому +11

      @@girlfromlacounty Idk. Maybe. I generally found him to be more than sufficiently long-suffering and patient w theist's insufferably nonsensical ramblings.

    • @tonyl9636
      @tonyl9636 Рік тому +4

      @@girlfromlacounty different people like different things. Shocker

    • @mindlandscape5767
      @mindlandscape5767 Рік тому +9

      The problem is the way Matt was treated, that isnt right!

    • @jackstevenson4679
      @jackstevenson4679 Рік тому +8

      @@girlfromlacounty I think he was burned out. I have been listening to the show for about 10 years. Matt was there 17. Now for the 10 years I have listened Matt has really only been super curmudgeonly about 2-3 of those years. If you watch clips of the earlier shows he was always very measured and calm when speaking with the callers. I think this is pretty much eventual with anything that any of us do..familiarity breeds contempt. The way the ACA treated him is bullshit.

  • @_Omega_Weapon
    @_Omega_Weapon Рік тому +181

    Dave and Forrest, two of my favorite people!

    • @rockpadstudios
      @rockpadstudios Рік тому +7

      I like Dave also - he gets right to the point with callers

    • @mykhailohohol8708
      @mykhailohohol8708 Рік тому +1

      why?

    • @_Omega_Weapon
      @_Omega_Weapon Рік тому +7

      @@mykhailohohol8708 They're intelligent, direct, and have good arguments and ideas. I admit I was being a *tad* hyperbolic, but sometimes certain people and their affect/attitude can just make you feel a little joy.

    • @sandersson2813
      @sandersson2813 Рік тому +1

      They are very good but this show is tired. Same old arguments, same answers.
      Not sure how it could be done, but I rarely watch now.

    • @Steelmage99
      @Steelmage99 Рік тому +3

      @Technic Unsupported nonsense of questionable provenance is unconvincing.

  • @stephencarter8625
    @stephencarter8625 Рік тому +20

    I appreciate that Forrest’s brain works at hyper-speed but please give Dave more time/opportunities to speak!

    • @blissfuldj7627
      @blissfuldj7627 Рік тому +3

      I think it's a real team effort, they're all working with the same goal, if Dave wanted to add to the conversation he would jump in, which he does, I think it goes to show the teamwork that these people have with each other

  • @littlewoodimp
    @littlewoodimp Рік тому +13

    "Too big to be bacteria, move too much to be plants." made me laugh out loud.

  • @ResearchThis
    @ResearchThis Рік тому +278

    We love you Matt Dillahunty ❤️

    • @USS_Sentinel
      @USS_Sentinel Рік тому +30

      @Amoral Atheist Matt would refuse the position.

    • @robsol123
      @robsol123 Рік тому +4

      @Amoral Atheist Matt Dillahunty is God

    • @kowoh
      @kowoh Рік тому +9

      I’d never join a club that would have me as a member 🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸

    • @RichardCookerly
      @RichardCookerly Рік тому

      Fuck the ACA for what they did to Matt. I’m only here for these two.

    • @cocatfan
      @cocatfan Рік тому

      @Amoral Atheist You need to get a life.

  • @danajonesnolan2547
    @danajonesnolan2547 Рік тому +100

    After what they did to Matt, I won't spend another dollar here, until they make a public apology to him.

    • @kidd32888
      @kidd32888 Рік тому +12

      I will still watch AXP but will not donate $ any more

    • @danajonesnolan2547
      @danajonesnolan2547 Рік тому +17

      @@kidd32888 I'm glad Matt started his own show and honestly, I think it will be better than AXE because he's not limited to what he can discuss on that one. The only reason why I'm watching this episode is because of Dave. I'm going to meet Dave on October 12th, in Cincinnati and after that, I'm just going to banish the ACA after tonight. What tbey did to Matt was horrible. All he was doing was what was right.

    • @jefflerner7526
      @jefflerner7526 Рік тому +4

      What did they do to Matt?

    • @FaiaHalo
      @FaiaHalo Рік тому +13

      @@jefflerner7526 watch his latest video on his channel (with his full name - Matt Dillahunty). He explains it all there.

    • @danajonesnolan2547
      @danajonesnolan2547 Рік тому +4

      @@jefflerner7526 full explanation on his channel. It was disgusting. Matt left AXE after 17 years over it.

  • @HandlingYou
    @HandlingYou Рік тому +56

    Diana is a troll or somebody that needs to be on a watch list

    • @alicelaybourne1620
      @alicelaybourne1620 Рік тому +5

      called her as a troll. No one goes from watching Matt and Aron to supporting children being put to the sword over religion. NEVER happened. (They got very triggered, but I would have liked for one of them to recognize the chance she was nothing more than a troll.

    • @andthewallscametumblingdow2451
      @andthewallscametumblingdow2451 Рік тому +13

      @@alicelaybourne1620 With the current cycle of madness and delusion in America, I wouldn't be so sure.

    • @Tovec8
      @Tovec8 Рік тому +13

      Not seeing how she's trolling. Sounds like talking points from someone who dogmatically accepts Catholicism. It is batshit crazy, yes, but she sounds genuine. If she is a troll she's a perfect encapsulation of Poe's Law (every parody of extreme views can be mistaken as a sincere, since they indistinguishable).

    • @EDUAROSOLAS
      @EDUAROSOLAS Рік тому +7

      That amount of confidence is astounding for her level of thinking. She sounds like she's never talked to anyone outside of her immediate family.

    • @rG1vZ
      @rG1vZ Рік тому

      @@Tovec8 might be, who knows tbh

  • @troycucchiara3775
    @troycucchiara3775 Рік тому +19

    Forest and Dave! I love this combo. You two handle the callers firmly and with ease.

  • @kitgautier1658
    @kitgautier1658 Рік тому +15

    Forrest bringing up Arachne was awesome.

  • @Kausarniyazee
    @Kausarniyazee Рік тому +49

    Miss Matt Dillahunty now that we know he is never coming to this show again! Don’t hate these guys but have mad respect for Matt.

    • @ogg5949
      @ogg5949 Рік тому

      I didn't hear that. Googled it- no info. What happened?

    • @Aisatsana1971
      @Aisatsana1971 Рік тому

      @@ogg5949 he left due to internal issues with the ACA.

    • @ogg5949
      @ogg5949 Рік тому

      @@Aisatsana1971 thank you! That's a bummer. I really liked him.

    • @ogg5949
      @ogg5949 Рік тому

      @@kentonbaird1723 well, that sucks. Thanks for the info!

    • @mikemcmike6427
      @mikemcmike6427 Рік тому +1

      Who could hate Dave and forest

  • @samikalastaja
    @samikalastaja Рік тому +22

    The first caller is a classic hardcore conspiracy nut. His speech pattern and choice of words checks all the boxes.

    • @jquest99
      @jquest99 Рік тому +3

      I much prefer the classic hard-core conspiracy nut. The new formula conspiracy nut has too much nut and not enough conspiracy.

    • @chrispalmer7893
      @chrispalmer7893 Рік тому +2

      Could barely make out what he was saying over the crinkling of tin foil

    • @cathrinegustavsson9775
      @cathrinegustavsson9775 Рік тому

      Yea a real nut bar that rambles on with absolutely nothing that mskes sence!

  • @superstone13
    @superstone13 Рік тому +91

    Heard how Matt was dismissed. Shameful, embarrassing and sad to learn how poorly this organization treats its members. Love the hosts and all that this show has done but clearly the suits and those behind the scenes think they know better than those who make it what it is. Thank you to those who truly care and want to make difference for the better, but with this move the show has cemented itself as out of touch and inept if not full blown incompetent. I won’t be returning but good luck to management trying to operate as you have been. It’s so clearly working out for you.

    • @LAdavidthompson
      @LAdavidthompson Рік тому +9

      Well, you heard wrong so it is best to get correct information.....he wasn't dismissed - he quit.

    • @jquest99
      @jquest99 Рік тому +4

      @@LAdavidthompson Agreed.
      To the op, if you are on Matt's side, don't spread misinformation.

    • @ryry854
      @ryry854 Рік тому +7

      Matt wasn't dismissed he quit the show himself and he'd be the first to correct you on that. We have enough misinformation about, please don't spread more of it.

    • @Spiritof_76
      @Spiritof_76 Рік тому +2

      @James Jungles As a circumcised person, I think going nuts about it is too much. Tomato, to-mah-to.

    • @dirkschmid1045
      @dirkschmid1045 Рік тому +1

      Well said 👍👍👍

  • @jquest99
    @jquest99 Рік тому +26

    For those of you wondering about the one issue that Matt mentioned in his video:
    If you look at the second page of the News section of the ACA website, you'll see a June 16th apology from the ACA for taking a call from someone who previously harassed, doxxed, and blackmailed a show host.
    What they mean is that on Talk Heathen, they took a caller who was KNOWN for harassing, doxxing, and blackmailing Arden. Arden was on the live chat during Matt's announcement to confirm that's what happened.
    Matt wanted that issue handled better and in a more full throated fashion than just an entry on the News section. The mgmt didn't even want an announcement of this issue during any of the shows.
    The issue that Matt has is with how he couldn't get even a satisfactory discussion on handling this issue. But you can get more details by listening to Matt's video on his channel. But his video doesn't get into the details of the incident itself, just on how the board handled it.

    • @serenaislinn4912
      @serenaislinn4912 Рік тому +3

      I think he was trying to avoid bringing the specific host into the discussion, as I'm sure it was traumatic all around for them.
      And as the apology says "Personally identifiable information has been removed to protect the identity of the individuals targeted.". So possibly please do the same, they're are some really toxic folk in the comments already.

    • @Paigewe
      @Paigewe Рік тому +3

      He also lives with her! Which makes it so much more personal to him. Not only protecting a friend but his own safety

  • @DesertedSocrates
    @DesertedSocrates Рік тому +4

    Diana should look at the children's crusade. Absolutely abhorrent

  • @jtcaff
    @jtcaff Рік тому +32

    I just looked out the window, and sure enough, there is a full moon lol. What a treasure trove of callers! Forrest and Dave are so awesome...

    • @ahz4877
      @ahz4877 Рік тому +2

      Indeed!

    • @ingridschmid1709
      @ingridschmid1709 Рік тому

      @@ookeekthelibrarian On the hand he need to be reminded how some theists are just gross.

  • @EverythingCameFromNothing
    @EverythingCameFromNothing Рік тому +31

    Unsubscribed 😢 but I’ll still watch when there are great hosts like Dave and Forrest 😃

  • @eli-is
    @eli-is Рік тому +132

    I just love seeing Forrest be Forrest.

    • @MMAGamblingTips
      @MMAGamblingTips Рік тому +13

      He has such a happy demeanor always.

    • @bruderk4257
      @bruderk4257 Рік тому +7

      I love when he freaks out.

    • @Steelmage99
      @Steelmage99 Рік тому +5

      @Technic Unsupported nonsense of questionable provenance is unconvincing.

    • @adamgrayskull1587
      @adamgrayskull1587 Рік тому +10

      @Technic Uncle Ben said that with great power comes great responsibility. Sounds like your imaginary friend could learn from that.

    • @cy-one
      @cy-one Рік тому +3

      @Technic That has been quite well demonstrated to be false.
      Considering the issues that plague this world, either there has never been a true believer in Jesus or the people who are true believers in Jesus care fck all for other people.
      Otherwise, why has no believer solved cancer yet? Or a workable solution for people existing but not living under minimum wage? Or water shortages in Africa?
      Either "all things aren't possible" for one who believes, or
      "all things are possible" for one who believes, there's just not one who believes, or
      "all things are possible" for one who believes, just no one who believes gives a damn.
      Omnipotence, even as a variance, will always have issues with the problem of evil.

  • @Oswlek
    @Oswlek Рік тому +3

    Luke, change P1 of the ontological argument you presented to _"it is possible that a maximally great being does _*_not_*_ exist"_ (which is completely fair if "possible" is supposed to mean an innocuous "maybe/maybe not") and see how the argument unfolds from there. You'll spot the error right away, I bet.

  • @JesseDriftwood
    @JesseDriftwood Рік тому +6

    What blows my mind about Diana’s call, isn’t her terrifying stance on the crusades, it’s that somehow her pursuit of eradicating non contradictory beliefs hasn’t shown her the most obvious contradiction. Her entire faith is built on a guy who preached non violence, tells people “those who live by the sword will die by the sword”, who doesn’t fight back while being murdered, but she is VERY quick to give all the times it’s ok to murder in the name of your beliefs. A truly un-christian stance if I’ve ever heard one.

    • @jquest99
      @jquest99 Рік тому +1

      I think she was trying to get to a position of there was a greater good in spreading the word of God to save the souls of those "pagans".
      She would have fit right in with the people at the time. But what is horrifying is that if the current political system allowed for it, she would definitely have advocated for forcible indoctrination, even if it meant torture and death.
      Objective reality, indeed.

    • @JesseDriftwood
      @JesseDriftwood Рік тому +1

      @@jquest99 You’re absolutely right. Listening to her hesitate before admitting (at least she was honest!) that the beheading of 2000 people was a good thing. The only ounce of respect she gets from me is that she at least was consistent. It’s just a shame her consistency is in support of actual evil.

  • @HeardFromMeFirst
    @HeardFromMeFirst Рік тому +5

    Diana is the camp guard in any concentration camp..
    Shame on you Diana..

  • @antrocks1287
    @antrocks1287 Рік тому +61

    Not gonna be the same without matt

    • @robsol123
      @robsol123 Рік тому +5

      One trillion percent 👍

    • @ingridschmid1709
      @ingridschmid1709 Рік тому +3

      On the other hand that's a rather trivial truism .

    • @Jeff.Paborada
      @Jeff.Paborada Рік тому

      Never in forever.

    • @TheForgedReality
      @TheForgedReality Рік тому +3

      One way it won't be the same is there will be a lot less abrasiveness toward the callers. 😂

    • @ingridschmid1709
      @ingridschmid1709 Рік тому

      @@TheForgedReality Pity most of those can do with a lot of abrasiveness, they obviously haven't experienced nearly enough.

  • @cyberdelicxp9125
    @cyberdelicxp9125 Рік тому +22

    Aside from the nonsense that went down with Matt, these 2 are amazing. Forest is an absolute Joy. DIANA NEEDS TO BE PUT ON A WATCHLIST

    • @loodlebop
      @loodlebop Рік тому

      I hope she doesn't also defend her faith by the sword, but I have a feeling she secretly knows that's batshit crazy

    • @delbomb3131
      @delbomb3131 Рік тому +2

      Willing to bet that if the first guy wasn't an act he's totally on a watch list already

  • @Eli_Slack
    @Eli_Slack Рік тому +1

    The first ad break in this video showed me a 1:30m ad for a church 20 minutes from me that has“miracle services” on the first Saturday of each month. They claim to “cure” the dead, blind, “crippled” and amputees.

  • @gretam3260
    @gretam3260 Рік тому +19

    Really great show today.
    Thank you Forrest and Dave, I really like the dynamic of the show with the two of you!

    • @geyb7556
      @geyb7556 Рік тому

      @Technic jesus is a fraud sorry if it may hurt your feelings

  • @tera1755
    @tera1755 Рік тому +23

    Diana did the world a favor, she disabused anyone of not being an atheist. Any group this person is a part of is one that a sane, rational human would NEVER be a part of. To be associated, even associated with any group espousing this moral framework makes your reputation irredeemable. Thank you, Diana.

    • @haudace
      @haudace Рік тому +2

      Imagine these people in positions of power.

    • @user-kx5jj2do6b
      @user-kx5jj2do6b Рік тому +1

      I can't believe she wasn't trolling.

  • @Mquin02
    @Mquin02 Рік тому +22

    I'm extremely disappointed in the ACA. What a massive let down.

  • @seanelsenbroek7530
    @seanelsenbroek7530 Рік тому +5

    Apparently, according to some of these theist callers, if you can’t justify slavery or the mass murder of innocent people, you are incapable of making moral judgements.

    • @noskpain2792
      @noskpain2792 Рік тому

      I was the caller and they put words in my mouth. I wasn't advocating to return to slavery and they didn't let me finish. I wanted to give a hypothetical with regards to morality. If it is actually timeless or does evolve as we go. I wanted to give a agnostics case

    • @kuromyou7969
      @kuromyou7969 Рік тому

      @@noskpain2792 you said that slavery 2000 yrs ago was moral and ok. How is that hypothetical?

    • @noskpain2792
      @noskpain2792 Рік тому

      @@kuromyou7969 Why is it according to you when God plays God by taking a life prematurely ( old testament) it is a moral outrage, but when atheists not all, but most thorough abortion it is a moral right. What is your reaction to this?

    • @kuromyou7969
      @kuromyou7969 Рік тому

      @@noskpain2792 what does abortion have to do with slavery?

    • @noskpain2792
      @noskpain2792 Рік тому

      @@kuromyou7969 I'm not sure if you're American, but my issue with chattel slavery we had was the white aristocrats were not following the Golden rule. A rule everyone I assume agrees with. Essentially don't enslave someone if you aren't willing to be enslaved yourself. I find that to be moral. But I point out the hypocrisy of atheists that attack the atrocities that was said to have happened during the old testament and then later turn a blind eye to the genocide of millions of unborn since Roe was decided and then reversed.

  • @danielstover5094
    @danielstover5094 Рік тому +4

    To the last caller: YES there are people who throw their feces around. in 2008 I suffered a near-fatal hemorrhagic stroke which left me with hemiparesis of my left side. I spent half of my three months in hospitals in a rehab hospital. There was a patient on my floor that regularly had to be sedated because he would jump around his room throwing his poop at the walls and nurses. He was also racist asf and would verbally abuse one of the sweetest, compassionate nurses in the world just because she was black.

  • @CrashingThunder
    @CrashingThunder Рік тому +11

    Diana's call was an absolute MESS, like holy crap, I hope she thinks about this for weeks and loses sleep over it because wow.

    • @Selcryn
      @Selcryn Рік тому +4

      She won't. She's either completely convinced that it's ok if the church/god says it is. Or she's a troll and was thoroughly entertained by making people think she's a horrendous monster following an even worse one

  • @jmo2966
    @jmo2966 Рік тому +17

    Bring me more Forrest all day every day. He's the GOAT

  • @humpbackdelorean
    @humpbackdelorean Рік тому +76

    The hosts did a great job with crazy proofs of God. The live chat was weird. Matt was in the last week recap and yet any comment recognizing him was deleted. Reminded me of apologetic channels.

    • @serenaislinn4912
      @serenaislinn4912 Рік тому +25

      The Live Chat mods have those amongst them who are wretched. Some spreading horrible misinformation about trans people to others that delete any disagreement with their point. I refuse to participate because of that. They need better training of their mods. Cause ultimately whichever ones are the bad apples they reflect poorly upon the others, and cause real damaging harm to people. I don't say this lightly. I saw one mod literally abusing their power to create harm on an individual.
      Wish I had the means to record the live chat, cause the mods deleted all evidence of what happened. I watched it happen in real time. It disgusted me. Attacking a trans women fearing for her safety, and then eventually deleting the whole conversation.
      If you have to hide your actions you're likely in the wrong, regardless it's a horrible look. they need a public apology, and a statement of accountability actually being held. Not delete the person being attacked's comments.

    • @serenaislinn4912
      @serenaislinn4912 Рік тому +7

      @James Jungles attacked is possibly to strong a word. Her real safety concerns (irl) were being dismissed by a fellow live chatter and the mod joined in on the dismissal and then deleted her comments. I use attack because the women was left harmed by the experience, and as a fellow trans woman it was very triggering to witness. Rather than sympathy or empathy for her, they dismissed her real life safety concerns as not being important or real. This was especially upsetting as hate crimes against our community have been on a general rise for several years now. This same Mod repeated the same transphobic misinformation that sparked the whole Woodward incident.
      I don't have any more details than that as I didn't capture any screen shots etc of the incident as it happened.

    • @setboy1
      @setboy1 Рік тому +8

      The way this organization sweeps everything under the run is horrible. Not sure how much more I can support them

    • @serenaislinn4912
      @serenaislinn4912 Рік тому +16

      @James Jungles nah I'm good. I don't need you to act as an arbiter of what's right and wrong. I fully stand by calling it attacked at this point.
      I literally don't care if you believe me or not. Your decorum elsewhere has been less than respectful

    • @SeanRyno
      @SeanRyno Рік тому +5

      @@serenaislinn4912 if there was no damage to property, I think you're playing fast and loose with the word "attack". Disagreeing or dismissing someone's claims in an internet forum is hardly an attack.
      And you can continue on with that narrative if you like, but it comes across as being overly dramatic and causes people like me to lose trust in you altogether.

  • @SilverGirl-925
    @SilverGirl-925 Рік тому +11

    Millennials like Forrest give me hope for the future.

  • @lassebongo9338
    @lassebongo9338 Рік тому +4

    Diana is one of worst callers I've heard. Take your "morals" and shove it.

  • @octapc
    @octapc Рік тому +16

    My 99 cents is going to Matt's channel

  • @wvblank42
    @wvblank42 Рік тому +27

    Matt’s “why he left” has far more views!

    • @joshsheridan8239
      @joshsheridan8239 Рік тому

      The shows viewing figures are about normal for their first day upload. So do you have a point?

    • @wvblank42
      @wvblank42 Рік тому

      @@joshsheridan8239 yeah it’s currently 79k to 17k. There will be a dip in viewership moving forward without Matt. So I do have a point.

    • @eleSDSU
      @eleSDSU Рік тому

      @@wvblank42 i have no idea what happened yet other from some very bigoted people in the comments lamenting Matt's departure. At least I came back to watch because I heard hes no longer in the show and what better replacement for an imperialist like Matt than a class ally like Forest. The show will definitely get more new viewers :)

  • @kukulcan9119
    @kukulcan9119 Рік тому +8

    Glad I listened to this in the car, because I couldn't help but scream at some of these callers. I am astonished! Incredulous! How indoctrination can take over reason is incredible.

  • @FakingANerve
    @FakingANerve Рік тому +5

    2:38
    Charles: "...and I've had a conversation with a federal agent because of it!"
    Forrest: "Funky! OK..."
    Dammit, Forrest, that alone demands one buy you a drink. Well played. 😂👍🍻

  • @kidd32888
    @kidd32888 Рік тому +11

    Matt explicitly said do not come here and talk about him so please respect his wishes.

    • @SeanRyno
      @SeanRyno Рік тому +2

      No. I'll respect his legacy.

    • @jquest99
      @jquest99 Рік тому +5

      I don't think he said not to come here and talk about him. He obviously doesn't want people to come here and harass the hosts or the other volunteers

  • @OuterRimPride
    @OuterRimPride Рік тому +18

    Love both these guys but the higher-ups in the organization did Matt dirty.

    • @highroller-jq3ix
      @highroller-jq3ix Рік тому

      Evidence?

    • @FaiaHalo
      @FaiaHalo Рік тому +3

      @@highroller-jq3ix watch Matt's video on his personal channel (with his full name).

    • @highroller-jq3ix
      @highroller-jq3ix Рік тому

      @@FaiaHalo And then come here to whine and troll?

    • @FaiaHalo
      @FaiaHalo Рік тому +2

      @@highroller-jq3ix if you want to. I'm not your parent to tell you what to do.

    • @highroller-jq3ix
      @highroller-jq3ix Рік тому

      @@FaiaHalo It's not my daddy issues that seem to be applicable here.

  • @G00berella
    @G00berella Рік тому +8

    First caller, take your meds immediately.
    EDIT: The last 3 callers takes your meds too.

  • @johnnypopstar
    @johnnypopstar Рік тому +7

    "There are pieces, and then they started doing stuff" is a brilliant description of abiogenesis :D

  • @JonathanChaotic
    @JonathanChaotic 10 місяців тому +1

    David actually almost brought me to tears. Such a wholesome and sad story that mirrors so many others. I used to be in the same trap when I found out my church was lying about the Bible and I felt scared and lost so he really resonated with me. I hope he's doing well now. We love you David, and you're doing great❤

  • @CrashingThunder
    @CrashingThunder Рік тому +26

    I love Forrest's vibe, he says so much so succinctly all while having such a nice demeanor.

    • @Steelmage99
      @Steelmage99 Рік тому

      @Technic Unsupported nonsense of questionable provenance is unconvincing.

  • @blakewalker84120
    @blakewalker84120 Рік тому +5

    Luke:
    1. It's possible that dragons exist.
    2. If it's possible that dragons exist, then dragons exist in some possible worlds.
    3. If dragons exist in some possible worlds, then dragons exist in all possible worlds.
    4. If dragons exist in all possible worlds, then dragons exist in the actual world.
    5. If dragons exist in the actual world, dragons exist.
    See the problem?
    I can do it it again if you like:
    1. It's possible that you are 20 feet tall.
    2. If it's possible that you are 20 feet tall, then you are 20 feet tall in some possible worlds.
    3. If you are 20 feet tall in some possible worlds, then you are 20 feet tall in all possible worlds.
    4. If you are 20 feet tall in all possible worlds, then you are 20 feet tall in the actual world.
    5. If you are 20 feet tall in the actual world, you are 20 feet tall.
    Want me to do it again?
    1. It's possible that the moon is made of pizza.
    2. If it's possible that the moon is made of pizza, then the moon is made of pizza in some possible worlds.
    3. If the moon is made of pizza in some possible worlds, then the moon is made of pizza in all possible worlds.
    4. If the moon is made of pizza in all possible worlds, then the moon is made of pizza in the actual world.
    5. If the moon is made of pizza in the actual world, the moon is made of pizza.
    OK, one more time for good measure...
    1. It's possible that I have an 18 inch d...
    Oh, never mind, I think you probably get it by now.
    So you'll say that dragons aren't "maximally great or tri-omni" but that is just your definition of god.
    The Greeks didn't think any of their gods are maximally great or tri-omni. Neither did the Vikings.
    If you want to include maximally great as a premise, then you must include it as a premise. Make it premise 1.
    1. God is maximally great.
    2. It's possible that god exists.
    etc.
    Doing this will make your argument more valid (but not necessarily more sound).
    But then my response is:
    1. Dragons are maximally great.
    2. It's possible that dragons exist.
    3. If it's possible that dragons exist, then dragons exist in some possible worlds.
    4. If dragons exist in some possible worlds, then dragons exist in all possible worlds.
    5. If dragons exist in all possible worlds, then dragons exist in the actual world.
    6. If dragons exist in the actual world, dragons exist.
    See the problem?
    If you are allowed to say that your god is maximally great, then I can say dragons are maximally great and my argument is EXACTLY as valid as your argument.
    Any argument that follows along the line of "Nuh uh, everybody knows god is maximally great but dragons are not" then you're just making up unverifiable things about your god and taking them on faith, while telling me that I cannot make up things about my dragons on an equal basis of faith.
    That's special pleading and cannot be the basis for a valid argument.

    • @jquest99
      @jquest99 Рік тому

      Is the TL;DR that you do NOT have an 18 inch d...?

  • @Kantilvih
    @Kantilvih Рік тому +12

    My issue with people who think "presentism" is an actual argument that somehow proves gods infallable morality, is that they seem to miss the fact that gods morality changes over time, dragged along kicking and screaming behind progress.
    Presently slavery isnt moral and really it never was, the ancient societies were wrong. But so was god.

    • @jaflenbond7854
      @jaflenbond7854 Рік тому

      ATHEISM, AGNOTICISM, AND RELIGIOUS FANATICISM
      VS.
      THE CREATOR AND JESUS CHRIST.
      ATHEISTS, AGNOSTICS, AND FANATICS OF ALL RELIGIONS DON'T KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT -
      All hateful, arrogant, and unkind Atheists, Agnostics, Born Agains, Catholics, Muslims, Mormons, Buddhists, JWs, Baptists, SDAs, Hindus, etc who placed themselves under the Authority, power, and control of Satan the Devil and believe and preach the LIES and foolishness of the ANTI-CHRISTS about -
      1. Armageddon
      2. Immortality of the souls or the heaven and hellfire
      3.Trinity
      4. rapture and
      5. reincarnation
      will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths as the CONSEQUENCE of their Satanic hatred, arrogance, and foolishness in mocking, defying, and opposing the Authorities, teachings, and commandments of the Creator and his Christ.
      ATHEISTS, AGNOSTICS, AND FANATICS OF ALL RELIGIONS DON'T KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT -
      1. All imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who placed themselves under the Authority, guidance, and protection of the CREATOR and believe the authority, TRUTHS and righteousness of his CHRIST about -
      a) the Kingdom of God and
      b) Resurrection of the Dead
      will be honored and REWARDED by the CREATOR with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without pains, sufferings, griefs, sickness and deaths.
      2. The CREATOR will let his worshippers live and exist forever on a safe and peaceful planet earth without criminals, terrorists, and militaries, without hateful, arrogant, and unkind persons, without liars, slanderers, deceivers, and hypocrites, without funeral homes and cemeteries.
      3. Worshippers of the CREATOR will enjoy the eternal love, kindness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the CREATOR and his CHRIST for eternity as submissive and obedient subjects of the Kingdom of God under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler, Jesus Christ.

    • @chrislabonte3582
      @chrislabonte3582 Рік тому +2

      They should have asked Ruben why God changed his law about slavery. And, how does he know God changed his mind on the matter?

    • @joemiller7082
      @joemiller7082 Рік тому +2

      It’s as clear a set of evidence that Christianity was written by men, with their own morality at that time in mind. If god was handing down objective morality, it would be literally timeless and not one single thing would ever be outdated. It’s objective. If it were wrong, he’d have told us, right?!?! If he didn’t tell us it’s wrong, it’s ok by the same objective morality, isn’t it?!?! Can’t really have it both ways.

    • @brigittea5110
      @brigittea5110 Рік тому +3

      @@joemiller7082 There would be only one sentence : Do not enslave another human ever!

    • @noskpain2792
      @noskpain2792 Рік тому

      I was the caller and they put words in my mouth. I wasn't advocating to return to slavery and they didn't let me finish. I wanted to give a hypothetical with regards to morality. If it is actually timeless or does evolve as we go. I wanted to give a agnostics case

  • @lmelior
    @lmelior Рік тому +5

    Dave's words to David about getting further and further removed were very insightful and rung true to me. It's been almost 20 years since I finally gave up the mental gymnastics to hold on to some measure of faith, but it took a few years before the scare tactics of the religious stopped having an effect on me. Cosmic Skeptic and Genetically Modified Skeptic have also spoken about overcoming this fear of hell on their channels, and might be good resources for David.

  • @micahfoley9572
    @micahfoley9572 Рік тому +2

    i love when dave spots an opening. the caller always tries to deflect or change the subject and he's like "No no no no no. What do YOU think? I asked about YOU." lol

  • @benharrison4513
    @benharrison4513 Рік тому +7

    “I’ve seen lights on the ground at night”. Hahaha 😂

    • @dirkschmid1045
      @dirkschmid1045 Рік тому +1

      So have I! I’ve got solar lights in the garden 😄

    • @markborder906
      @markborder906 Рік тому +1

      I’ve seen them as well, but rarely. In the U.K. we call them glow worms.

    • @benharrison4513
      @benharrison4513 Рік тому +1

      I also saw some in the car the other night, called cats eyes in the middle of the road - there are even different colours!

  • @futureboy7653
    @futureboy7653 Рік тому +28

    Upvote if you miss Matt

  • @shanen8031
    @shanen8031 Рік тому +48

    Matt Dillahunty is worth his weight in gold to the ACA

    • @cocatfan
      @cocatfan Рік тому

      😂

    • @joemiller7082
      @joemiller7082 Рік тому +2

      Why? He’s cool and all, but aren’t you doing a disservice to the current hosts???

    • @shanen8031
      @shanen8031 Рік тому +8

      @@joemiller7082 no... Matt has done more than anyone for the ACA over a very long time, and is a drawcard to the show and community.
      Why is that a disservice to the current hosts (who are awesome btw)? They likely have more fame for being on AXP because of Matt than if Matt was never on the show

    • @SomethingLegit1
      @SomethingLegit1 Рік тому +3

      @@joemiller7082
      Firstly, Matt has done more than any other host for the ACA.
      Secondly, these stories are rarely isolated cases within organisations. If an organisation allows itself to treat its public face, the one that people associate with the show this way, how do they treat others? How do they treat Dave and Forrest behind the scenes? Is an organisation like that worth my support?

    • @BasilAbdef
      @BasilAbdef Рік тому +2

      The whole point of why he left was that if they could treat someone like him so dismissively and in such a bureaucratic way, how are they going to treat someone like Dave or Forrest who have been there much shorter if there's some dispute in the future? The whole thing just points to a very poorly run organization behind the scenes.

  • @mikealexander2005
    @mikealexander2005 Рік тому +2

    It's so weird to me that people don't realize that they got themselves in a situation where they're literally trying to justify the crusades

    • @mindlander
      @mindlander Рік тому

      They may be justified. Depends on your moral framework. What's yours?

    • @shanewilson7994
      @shanewilson7994 Рік тому +1

      @@mindlander If your moral framework is literally spread the religion by the sword, then that moral framework is fundamentally flawed.

    • @mindlander
      @mindlander Рік тому

      @@shanewilson7994 I assume you believe there is no just war.

    • @shanewilson7994
      @shanewilson7994 Рік тому

      @@mindlander some sides of a war are more just than other sides. But war and, really, most human interactions, tend to have a ton of variables.
      But if your intent on going to war is purely to spread your faith, then yeah, that's a terrible framework.

    • @vermilion6966
      @vermilion6966 Рік тому

      @@mindlander theres no just war, only just defence. spreading your bs views is anything but just

  • @michaelsexton7891
    @michaelsexton7891 Рік тому +5

    Ngl, I'm going to miss Matt but a big fan of Forrest and Dave, so there's that.

  • @Wolf.51.50
    @Wolf.51.50 Рік тому +4

    I've always thought this: even if this god existed, even if he was the most benevolent god in the whole universe (which clearly he isn't)... Why should i worship him? There's really no reason to do that. I could respect him, just like i respect a human, i could be friends with him, but... worship? Why? The only reason to do that, when you really think about it, is because he's more powerful than me, so he can do whatever he wants with me whenever he wants. So, in order to keep him from hurting me, i worship him. That would be the only reason to worship him: because he's a superior power and he can kill me. Now, you know what kind of mentality that is? There's a name for that: it's called MAFIA. Worshiping a god to prevent him from hurting me or my family, is exactly like mafia's payoff. It's exactly like paying the mafia for protection. I would never do that with mafia nor with god. I rest my case 🙂

    • @cartesiancircle
      @cartesiancircle Рік тому

      Yes I sort of view that as a supernatural Stockholm syndrome where you enter into a relationship with your metaphysical marionettist and dance to their tune only because they have ultimate power over whether you live or die (eternal torment in infinite lake of fire). It appears many humans have a deep desire to be dominated. Religion is the perfect method to control the masses.

  • @rutlegs
    @rutlegs Рік тому +8

    Love you guys but I'm not going to reward the ACA's behavior with my continued support.

  • @RA-ut2df
    @RA-ut2df Рік тому +14

    Dave and Forrest were great in exposing her hypocrisy about justifying murder.

    • @Jprimus
      @Jprimus Рік тому +1

      The problem is that those callers that justify murder and slavery will NEVER break from that spell. It's so ingrained in them that the corrupted mind cant see how awful those ideals really are. It's so hate fueled. It's tragic and the chances of ever reaching that part of them to break that mindset is pretty unlikely.

    • @RA-ut2df
      @RA-ut2df Рік тому

      ​@@Jprimus It helps to understand just how brainwashed people can be. I am surrounded by self righteous Christians who say and do things that are obviously cruel to normal folks. My guess is that they have become malignant narcissists who feel entitled to retaliate (e.g. with vicious smear campaigns) if anyone just asks a question such as are you going to do what you just said you would do? I can see why Matt and others get so angry with destructive airheads like this.

  • @nobody-u-know
    @nobody-u-know Рік тому +5

    Dave and Forrest. Your patience is legendary! Amazing!

  • @Leith_Crowther
    @Leith_Crowther Рік тому +6

    Can we preemptively put Diana in prison? Like, can we just get ahead of an atrocity for once?

  • @jackcox7178
    @jackcox7178 Рік тому +9

    Those last three calls... I feel like I've been beaten over the head by solid stupidity.
    I hope Forrest releases part 2 of his series on evolution soon, so I can revitalise my brain.

    • @JoahW
      @JoahW Рік тому +2

      Kyle had me laughing towards the end at least. I'm not sure he comprehended much of what Forrest was saying.

    • @jackcox7178
      @jackcox7178 Рік тому

      @@JoahW I'd probably laugh harder, but then I remember that these people can make decisions and vote without adult supervision.

  • @margothomas8812
    @margothomas8812 Рік тому +5

    Love these guys. I appreciate their upbeat attitudes and their conversations with the callers. I live in red state hyper religious Oklahoma and this is refreshing.

  • @mrcregg0915
    @mrcregg0915 Рік тому +3

    I love Forest's immediate response to the first caller. "Funky"

  • @henrikrolfsen584
    @henrikrolfsen584 Рік тому +2

    Because we are Social Primates, our survival has depended upon our integration into groups. In the process, survival has favored that about 75% of members in any given group, be brain-lazy followers, and each group, or tribe, have a strong willed leader! The average brain-lazy follower, seeks out a leader. The "Sheeple" seek out their "Shepherd". Once brainwashed, every "God Proclaimer" is becomes expert on the nature of his "God". The Believer knows exactly what his "God" thinks. He knows his "God's" opinion on any given subject, at any given time!

  • @elizmill96
    @elizmill96 Рік тому +3

    “Earth has every piece of the puzzle to ‘abstain’ life” lol

    • @jquest99
      @jquest99 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, if you abstain, you are less likely to have life. 😇

  • @cheapshot2842
    @cheapshot2842 Рік тому +9

    Found your video!
    Also, I've never been first before so... First!
    Also, I support all hosts of ACA
    I also support Matt

    • @cheapshot2842
      @cheapshot2842 Рік тому +1

      @Jon Clark Thank you, thank you.
      I'd like to thank my parents for raising me religious and giving me a need for a show like this.
      And to my internet connection for alerting me to the episode only 21 seconds after it was post.
      *Bows*

    • @TBomb39
      @TBomb39 Рік тому

      @Jon Clark 😢

  • @drjstrangepork
    @drjstrangepork Рік тому +5

    Charles was really excited to say some crazy sh*t -Forrest Valkai

  • @philpaine3068
    @philpaine3068 Рік тому +4

    It seems rather odd that God would choose to reveal himself (in the bizarre form of flashing lights) to a Catholic-hating Protestant in the city of Corpus Christi, which is 62% Latino, and extremely Catholic.

    • @jaflenbond7854
      @jaflenbond7854 Рік тому

      ATHEISM, AGNOTICISM, AND RELIGIOUS FANATICISM
      VS.
      THE CREATOR AND JESUS CHRIST.
      ATHEISTS, AGNOSTICS, AND FANATICS OF ALL RELIGIONS DON'T KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT -
      All hateful, arrogant, and unkind Atheists, Agnostics, Born Agains, Catholics, Muslims, Mormons, Buddhists, JWs, Baptists, SDAs, Hindus, etc who placed themselves under the Authority, power, and control of Satan the Devil and believe and preach the LIES and foolishness of the ANTI-CHRISTS about -
      1. Armageddon
      2. Immortality of the souls or the heaven and hellfire
      3.Trinity
      4. rapture and
      5. reincarnation
      will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths as the CONSEQUENCE of their Satanic hatred, arrogance, and foolishness in mocking, defying, and opposing the Authorities, teachings, and commandments of the Creator and his Christ.
      ATHEISTS, AGNOSTICS, AND FANATICS OF ALL RELIGIONS DON'T KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT -
      1. All imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who placed themselves under the Authority, guidance, and protection of the CREATOR and believe the authority, TRUTHS and righteousness of his CHRIST about -
      a) the Kingdom of God and
      b) Resurrection of the Dead
      will be honored and REWARDED by the CREATOR with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without pains, sufferings, griefs, sickness and deaths.
      2. The CREATOR will let his worshippers live and exist forever on a safe and peaceful planet earth without criminals, terrorists, and militaries, without hateful, arrogant, and unkind persons, without liars, slanderers, deceivers, and hypocrites, without funeral homes and cemeteries.
      3. Worshippers of the CREATOR will enjoy the eternal love, kindness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the CREATOR and his CHRIST for eternity as submissive and obedient subjects of the Kingdom of God under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler, Jesus Christ.

  • @altruismelshariff5502
    @altruismelshariff5502 Рік тому +1

    Dave & Forrest, thank you for allllll you... please keep educating all of us, because of your hard work & my husband wisdom I am able to decipher alot of what I was force to believe as a child.
    I also want to thank Matt for his loving dedication to this truth and for 17 years of shining the light.

  • @kuroiryu9434
    @kuroiryu9434 Рік тому +2

    Diana: the crusades were justified because non believes were infringing on our churches so its absolutely fine for us to infringe on their right to live.

  • @DulceN
    @DulceN Рік тому +7

    Great job, Forrest and Dave! Diana represents the kind of catholicism that scared me when I arrived to the US from Spain, 32 years ago (I already was an agnostic/atheist). She represents the radical, backwards branch of the church, at the level of what the Opus Dei does in Europe.
    By the way, Diana, Vatican II is the best thing that happened to the catholic church in centuries, it's people like John Paul II and his followers that would love to go back in time and regain the old ways...

    • @jaflenbond7854
      @jaflenbond7854 Рік тому

      ATHEISM, AGNOTICISM, AND RELIGIOUS FANATICISM
      VS.
      THE CREATOR AND JESUS CHRIST.
      ATHEISTS, AGNOSTICS, AND FANATICS OF ALL RELIGIONS DON'T KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT -
      All hateful, arrogant, and unkind Atheists, Agnostics, Born Agains, Catholics, Muslims, Mormons, Buddhists, JWs, Baptists, SDAs, Hindus, etc who placed themselves under the Authority, power, and control of Satan the Devil and believe and preach the LIES and foolishness of the ANTI-CHRISTS about -
      1. Armageddon
      2. Immortality of the souls or the heaven and hellfire
      3.Trinity
      4. rapture and
      5. reincarnation
      will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths as the CONSEQUENCE of their Satanic hatred, arrogance, and foolishness in mocking, defying, and opposing the Authorities, teachings, and commandments of the Creator and his Christ.
      ATHEISTS, AGNOSTICS, AND FANATICS OF ALL RELIGIONS DON'T KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT -
      1. All imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who placed themselves under the Authority, guidance, and protection of the CREATOR and believe the authority, TRUTHS and righteousness of his CHRIST about -
      a) the Kingdom of God and
      b) Resurrection of the Dead
      will be honored and REWARDED by the CREATOR with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without pains, sufferings, griefs, sickness and deaths.
      2. The CREATOR will let his worshippers live and exist forever on a safe and peaceful planet earth without criminals, terrorists, and militaries, without hateful, arrogant, and unkind persons, without liars, slanderers, deceivers, and hypocrites, without funeral homes and cemeteries.
      3. Worshippers of the CREATOR will enjoy the eternal love, kindness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the CREATOR and his CHRIST for eternity as submissive and obedient subjects of the Kingdom of God under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler, Jesus Christ.

  • @joeg2046
    @joeg2046 Рік тому +5

    The Catholic Church makes my nephews act like apes and throw poop on the walls. Wait did she say it's okay to kill kids? So will they not be apes when they grow up? These Christians confuse the of B'Jesus out of me. I see a bright spot of light shining on the wall and then the ceiling and then the wall and on and on. What is God trying to tell me? Nevermind, it's just my cat's collar reflecting the sunlight as he licks his butt.
    Absolutely love Forrest and Dave. I will, reluctantly, continue to watch this programming in spite of Matt not being here.
    I won't miss Matt: I will just follow him on his channel.

  • @mercedogre
    @mercedogre Рік тому +56

    not the same without Matt, the board screwed up pissing him off and letting him go

    • @MsHarpsychord
      @MsHarpsychord Рік тому +1

      What happened, ooh I am a cheeky person who loves gossip?

    • @AdsackGames
      @AdsackGames Рік тому +3

      Imagine caring so much about Matt and then doing exactly what he said not to do which was to comment negative things about the organization on this video lol. He clearly doesn't want more drama from all this but u want that for him I guess 👏 take notes from Matt and just move on

    • @pinball1970
      @pinball1970 Рік тому +3

      @@AdsackGames No, we will handle it how we handle it. Matt has dignity and wants to move on quietly.
      If you watched the live stream he was far from happy at the end of it and a lot of posters are not happy on his behalf.
      How questions were dealt with whilst being fobbed off with an email address for questions was a pathetic insult.
      Axp COULD have handled last night differently. What happens next will define Axp for me.

    • @fritzhaselnuss7852
      @fritzhaselnuss7852 Рік тому +2

      @@AdsackGames exactly, he had waaaaay too many fanboys floating around. Yes, he was great, also....he changed a lot over the years and finally....I m kinda sad to see him "go" (note: hes not "gone" just moved from the spotlight) but its his decision and something we need to acknowledge and accept....the show keeps on going

    • @AdsackGames
      @AdsackGames Рік тому +1

      @@pinball1970 nah how u handle it isn't important. You're not even involved in the situation. You're right that Matt wants to leave with his dignity, so u posting pity comments certainly doesn't help with that. He specifically asked not to overreact and cause more drama. His fan base and the community of people that watched his video / livestream explanation knows he was wronged, let him move on and respect his decision. You're just injecting your opinion which is literally just Matt's opinion so you can feel important to his cause smh. While you're actually just continuing the drama. Tell me where I'm wrong.