@@ShotInTheDark407nah nexus were bunch of jobbers lol people just whine and cry about them not winning at SummerSlam. If they wins at SummerSlam nothing would've changed in their solo because at the end it's depend on then individually all of them flop except Bray and barrett and bryan. Out of which Bray and bryan became top guy by their own and Barrett was only one benefited was nexus to good midcarder. WWE really tried on ryback and he flopped
What's even worse comes out at number 14 which is considered a curse number during the Royal Rumble, he wins the damn thing only to lose at Wrestlemania and turn heel
I did not expect Dijaks release coming. In my fantasy booking, I had the judgment day, turning on Damien Priest, and replacing him with Dijak making him the Judgement days new “leader”.
I wasn't surprised since he hasn't appeared on Raw onve since the draft. I didn't necessarily think he was gonna get released, but more so get treated like Cedric Alexander where he just isn't used at all even though he's phenomenal.
@@AquaLeaderJesse see I thought they were holding off until either Money in the Bank qualifier like Blair Davenport or wait till The Judgment Day turns on Damien.
@@darkneon5637 I booked it as whenever Liv fully convinced everyone in the Judgement Day except for Damien, after he loses the WHC due to Judgment Day “accidentally” costing Damien the titl , the next night on Raw, they address it in the ring, they go back in forth, but at the end of the night, Damien forgives them only for Dijak to attack him along with the rest of JD. Just kinda keep it simple. But I would’ve had Dijak debut already having matches already. You would see him in the background during JD segments.
Kieth Lee self sabotaged himself. WWE told him to lose weight and if you watched him then and now he’s winded constantly. Gunther was told to lose weight and did, and now he’s a star.
I think they are hinting Jon Moxley return with all the shield stuff at wrestle mania Last Monday they showed him on Seth’s recovery video and now the shield triple powerbomb on smack down
My own list: The Wyatt Family: The Fiend had some irritable booking decisions, but Bray and his followers in the early days of their main roster run just had bad booking all around. They were white hot coming up and they immediately feuded with Kane which led to a Ring of Fire Match. Bray also just took on lower tier talent like Miz and Kofi that probably should’ve been good, but they were more or less filler matches for PPVs. It wasn’t until the feud with Daniel Bryan, The Shield, and John Cena where it felt like they were getting somewhere even with the bad booking sprinkled in time from time. After Cena defeated Wyatt, The Wyatt Family became an after thought. Rowan was barely around, Harper was a decent mid-carder, and Wyatt just kinda floated feud to feud. They came back together with Braun Strowman now on their side, but just couldn’t break through like they used to and they were buried to Brock, Taker, Rock, and Cena (again even in a segment). They tried with Wyatt, Orton, and Harper which worked until Bray got the world title and lost it in a horrible title match at WM33. Vince just never believed in these guys. Cesaro: His character work might not have been the best, but he was a good worker for the mid-card. Dude should’ve won the U.S. or IC Title in his babyface run. He did some great stuff with Ziggler and Owens. Even with Sheamus, he developed a great character and then he just existed until he got his title match against Reigns in 2021 and then got released. Dolph Ziggler: I don’t need to talk about Ziggler. Maybe not main event material in the long haul, but he was pretty much modern day Shawn Michaels with his athleticism, aura, and selling. He was a great mid-carder and proved he can be reliable. Even if he ended up still getting released, 2013 was his year to at least get that main event run he was destined for. Big E: I’m a major Big E fan and I was so happy that he won the MiTB Briefcase in 2021. I was looking forward to seeing how they would book him as WWE Champion and firmly believed if he was just kept in that picture, he wouldn’t have suffered his potential career ending injury cause he wouldn’t have to work with Ridge Holland. Instead, he lost the title in a Fatal 5 Way to Brock. Didn’t even get a rematch at the Royal Rumble. And then suffered that injury in the build up to a lower tier tag team match. Shinsuke Nakamura: I think Nakamura is pretty much the definition of “Vince just wanted this guy because he’s popular in Japan and he wanted to taste that fame.” He had a decent run in NXT and honestly, I still felt like he had a few more months on the yellow brand personally. It’s clear Vince didn’t know how to use him when he came up to the main roster. Rey Mysterio: Yes, he’s a Hall of Famer. Yes, he’s going down as one of the greatest luchadors of all time. Yes, he’s had a great career, but not a good world title track record. Won the strap in 2006 doing it for Eddie and proceeded to lose every big match he was in except for defending the title. Won again in 2010, only had a month reign and lost to Kane. Won the WWE Championship and lost it on the same night to John Cena. Pretty much Vince just didn’t want him as world champion because he’s a little guy. EC3: Boy never had a chance and I honestly would’ve taught Vince would bank money on this guy.
Buddy Murphy is another name I can think of. I never followed him before his call-up, but his matches with Aleister Black were some of my favorites. They really let both of them walk.
I still remember from when I was 9 and Alex Riley turned on The Miz. Specifically one episode where he had a tag match with John Cena against The Awesome Truth with Stone Cold as special guest referee. The good guys won and all shared beers with Austin. It was one of those Mondays where as a 9 year old, it was impossible to fall asleep from how amped I was.
Alex Riley got the treatement and pop like Virgil when he popped on Milion dollar man , only thing that Virgil got more was a title , Alex Riley got jabbated😂
HHH has two kinds of NXT call ups: 1. You're the next big thing we're gonna push you to the moon immediately 2. Uhhhhhh, yeah sure we could use you up on the main roster for a bit. Plans? 🤷♂️
@@teemimika7105 I thought Grimes would've done way better under Triple H, he used him pretty well on NXT and had a good run even after HHH stepped down, he had like 5 TV matches and 2 were quash matches. Why they even brought him to the main roster to barely do anything with him for a year is beyond me
@@dwightyboy5324 I don't know why Triple H doesn't use his NXT method of booking where everyone got some kind of chances and were in more similar power level with each other especially with stacked roster today. Felt like WWE today is too business minded so they specifically handpicked who they wanted to be a main eventer and let everyone else fight in circles and never let them move up the card. Guys like Cameron is a casualty of business driven WWE
@@teemimika7105 yeah it's definitely kind of confusing why people will get released without really getting a chance. Doesn't help some of them are just regulated to house shows and dark matches, so the chance of them getting over goes down. Grimes had the talent to get a good crowd reaction, but was wasted for a year and let go. I hope someone like Kiana James or Blair Davenport doesn't go through a similar experience, or anyone else for that matter.
Shout out to Alex Riley, super whatever, but BUT, with one of the best entrance songs of all time. "SAY IT TO MY FAACE!" Absurdly good for somebody so mid.
my issue with these "wasted" arguments is who gets put down in place of a joe or dean if dean was in wwe still we might never get main event jay uso if joe was a top guy la knight might have to be put down some things happen for a reason
In my opinion like this is why a lot of stars in other promotions that were in WWE dont want to go to WWE cause they probably will get treated like trash again
John morrison. The reason why Vince didn't push him is because morrison was mature and didn't throw a tantrum about melina cheating on him with batista. Meanwhile when matt hardy got heated about the edge and lita thing he got fired.... bro vince is a child.
The Fiend was such a gem. It's ashame vince had it out for the gimmick. I think he was just mad the fiend was the most overwrestler when he wanted others to be more over.
*A couple of names when it comes to WWE fumbling the bag with are these superstars for me…* Dean Ambrose: Despite being possibly the most popular member of The Shield, the company always treated him like the black sheep as they were more favorable towards Rollins(Triple H’s Guy) and Reigns(Vince McMahon’s guy). Not to mention the fact that I hated how they turned them into a complete comedy act. Bray Wyatt: He was one of the most intriguing characters in the history of the company but yet every time it seemed like he was gonna get pushed the company just did their best to completely squander his momentum. Christian: He was one of WWE’s most loyal workers but it’s very clear that Vince McMahon for some particular reason hated his guts as he wanted to put a blue dot on his face. Plus, he should’ve been a multipletime world champion throughout his tenure. Samoa Joe: This guy was just a total package: great talker, immensely over with the audience and a phenomenal worker in the square circle despite his size. Yet somehow someway, they still didn’t know how to utilize him. The fact that Jinder Mahal was WWE champion and he never did so insulting to me. Owen Hart: Despite being a part of one of the most famous families in the history of wrestling, I am so appalled that this man never got to be world champion, despite having all the tools to be a world champion from his phenomenal in-ring work, excellent promo skills and was a great human being. A couple honorable mentions: Ricochet, Allister Black, Ember Moon, Dolph Ziggler, Gail Kim, Cesaro, etc.
@@SuperSaiyanBroku True, but both reigns were very forgettable. First one lasted literally just two days and the second run lasted just barely a month. While his rivalry with Randy Orton was undeniably, he was made to look completely weak by always coming up short compared to Orton.
forgot Nakamura, he’s similar to samoa joe in the sense he built his name somewhere else, sure he won titles but they kept giving him dumb gimmicks with boogs and dumb intentions, nakamura is one of the best talents in the world, yet they never put the big one on him, he should’ve beat jinder in 2017 for the big one and should’ve beat seth with his current anime gimmick
@@darkneon5637 it's crazy how vince gave the win to HHH and not Ambrose... WM 32, roman vs dean would have been crazy good. Could have even added seth into the mix (if he wasn't injured, i dont recall if he was healthy during this time).
@@carloscraigito7384 And also Dean was the IC Champion during the match he could be the second ever wrestler to held the WWE Champion and IC title at the exact same night
Wrestling wise sure but bro was a amazing at promos and I can’t necessarily rank shield members they’re styles of wrestling, promo work, and overall aesthetic are nothing alike so there’s nothing to compare
Always thought Ambrose was overrated, he was decent in WWE, but AEW pretty much exposed why WWE never pushed him the same way they did Roman and Seth. Plus he never came across as a top guy in interviews
Damien Sandow is another prime example. He was so damn over, even before the Mizdow stuff. Remember WrestleMania 31? When he eliminated Miz from the Andre The Giant Memorial Battle Royal? The pop he got from it was HUGE.
Hideo Itami, Swerve, Deonna Purrazzo, Mickie James (return), Dana Brooke, and Harper, Kushida, (imo) Yoshi Tatsu, Zack Ryder, EC3, The IIconics, Ember Moon, GAIL KIM, and more Current that come to mind: The Good Brothers, Nakamura, Mis Yim, Cedric, Natalya (which is crazy), Apollo, LA Knight (just not giving him his flowers), Balor, Pete Dunne, Corbin, Naomi, Justin Gabriel and more
I agree with 99% of these and probably could add 20 more. With that said, am I the only person that doesn't get Dean Ambrose/Jon Moxley at all? He has had a few decent promos, but nothing that is more than a funny soundbite. His ring work is not good at all and his characters are pretty boring. If the only thing tuat sets you apart is bleeding in every match, is that actually special? I will never forget that infamous podcast with Stone Cold. If you cannot pull it together for an opportunity like that, that's on you.
I can’t help but feel like WWE could’ve done more with Matt Cardona. The Zack Ryder character was over, they gave him that Internet Championship belt to strut around with. I just can’t help but to wonder what would’ve happened if they seriously pushed him.
Hey y’all, trying to post this on all of the accounts I regularly watch. I’ve been watching wrestling since 2021 super religiously, and this Monday is going to be my first ever show! Got some cheap tickets in TD Garden, and I’m so excited! I know about dark matches, speed matches, and main event, but I was wondering if y’all had any tips about attending a show live? Arrival time, sign usage, and any other tips would be so greatly appreciated!
Hit Row got fumbled really badly, they were very promising in nxt but when swerve got released they lost their most valuable asset and none of the members have really been the same since. Sure their in ring performance isn’t the best but I also feel like they never really got a lot of chances to shine on the main roster
i’d like to add Mercedes Moné to the list. I think the work she put in outside of the wwe in ring wise has been amazing, I do feel like they both benefited each other as wwe worked with her on her promo skills and she put on great matches
I agree with Dijack. Back in the day, him and keith lee's feud in NXT was phenomenal and both of them were AMAZING wrestlers. Oh, keith lee was a double champ in NXT and did nothing on the main roster so he indeed was also fumbled
Cesaro Insanely strong and impressive in the ring and always got incredible reactions but was relegated to the mid card/tag team division even though everyone knew he should have been a main eventer except McMahon.
He is still nothing more than a mid carder in Aew too who won't possibly no championship so what r u talking about. Atleast he was midcard champion in wwe as far i remember and got world title matches at ple
I think some of WWE's biggest fumbles are The Fiend, Shinsuke Nakamura, Dijak, Ricochet, Zack Ryder, Mojo Rawley, Keith Lee, Finn Balor, Wade Barrett, Aleister Black, and Dolph Ziggler. BUT! Their biggest absolute fumble of all time, and they will likely never have a fumble this bad ever again, is Cesaro. He was misutilized from day one till the end. He should have been world champion right after winning Andre Memorial BR, after WM30. by now, at least 5 time world champion. Vince f*cked him over so bad.
One that I feel like was grossly misused was Kane about a year after his debut (was so over, they then gave him the title by having the terrifying guy knocked out for one day) . Basically, he was left as an upper mid carder for ovwr a decade for no reason.
The video discusses several WWE superstars who were mishandled by the company, including Dolph Ziggler, Alex Riley, Christian, Cameron Grimes, Keith Lee, Aleister Black, Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman, Dean Ambrose, and the Undisputed Era. Key moments: 00:00 The WWE is proficient at developing talent but often fails to utilize already talented individuals, like the case of the wrestler Daack, showcasing a pattern of mismanagement and missed opportunities. -The WWE's successful talent scouting and training processes have been instrumental in creating mega-stars over the years. -Despite its talent development prowess, the WWE has a history of overlooking and underutilizing exceptionally skilled wrestlers, leading to missed opportunities and frustration. -The case of Daack exemplifies the WWE's failure to recognize and capitalize on top-tier talent, resulting in the wrestler being mismanaged and eventually not being resigned, highlighting a significant flaw in the company's approach. 04:05 Alex Riley and Christian are examples of wrestlers who had potential to be top stars but were not properly utilized by WWE, leading them to find success in other promotions like AEW and TNA. -Alex Riley had a brief period in WWE where he could have been a major babyface alongside John Cena but was underutilized, causing him to leave and potentially thrive elsewhere. -Christian, despite having a successful tag team career in WWE, was overlooked as a singles star possibly due to Vince McMahon's personal preference, leading him to shine in TNA as a top champion. 08:09 Cameron Grimes, a standout NXT performer, faced missed opportunities and lack of exposure on the WWE main roster, reflecting a common trend of talented NXT stars struggling to shine in the bigger stage. -The challenges faced by NXT stars transitioning to the WWE main roster and the struggle to receive similar opportunities and exposure, as seen in the case of Cameron Grimes. -The impact of missed opportunities and lack of creative direction on the careers of talented wrestlers like Cameron Grimes, leading to underutilization and eventual release from the WWE. -The frustration and disappointment among fans and viewers who witness promising NXT talents fail to reach their full potential on the larger platform of the WWE main roster, highlighting the need for better transition strategies. 12:13 Keith Lee, Alistair Black, and Bray Wyatt, among others, faced missed opportunities and poor booking in WWE, hindering their potential and character development. -Keith Lee and Alistair Black were not utilized well on the main roster, despite their success in NXT, leading to missed opportunities for both talents. -Bray Wyatt's character, The Fiend, was mishandled by WWE, with contradictory storylines and illogical booking decisions, ultimately hindering his potential as a supernatural character. -Braun Strowman's wasted potential and missed opportunities in WWE parallel the struggles faced by other talented wrestlers due to poor booking and storytelling under Vince McMahon's leadership. 16:16 Braun Strowman, despite being popular, was not pushed to the top in WWE due to not being named Brock Lesnar or Roman Reigns. The mishandling of Dean Ambrose and John Moxley outside WWE also highlights poor decisions by the company. -Missed opportunity with Braun Strowman's potential as a top star due to company preferences for other names like Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns. -Mishandling of Dean Ambrose (John Moxley) within WWE leading to his departure and subsequent success outside the company. -Failure to capitalize on the talented faction, Undisputed Era, in WWE's developmental system, resulting in missed potential on the main roster. 20:19 Many talented individuals in WWE, like Samoa Joe and Mauro Ranallo, struggled due to mismanagement and lack of opportunities, leading them to find success outside WWE, showcasing the company's shortcomings. -Samoa Joe, despite being successful in NXT, faced mismanagement on the main roster, highlighting WWE's failure to utilize his talent effectively. -Mauro Ranallo, a respected commentator, left WWE due to a toxic work environment, underscoring the company's inability to retain top-tier talent. -Tony Storm, a promising wrestler, was underutilized in WWE, leading to her departure and subsequent success in AEW, exposing WWE's failure to capitalize on her potential.
The fact that there are so many superstars that been fumbled by Vince. And Triple H only fumbled at least one (Unfortunate) superstar. Really says alot...
Triple H really knows how to use NXT Top stars,like what he does currently with call-ups like Lyra Valkyria,Bron Breakker and Carmelo Hayes,that's why what happened with Dijak (especially because Dijak is soo talented) is very shocking
Triple H definitely fumbled more than one wrestler, guys like Jinder Mahal, Cameron Grimes, Elias, Rick Boogs, Madcap Moss, Lacey Evans, those are some people that could've been used way better even if they had some weaknesses. Vince fumbled a lot of guys to don't get me wrong, but Triple H has also made a lot of missteps. Even guys employed still like Shinsuke Nakamura, Karrion Kross, and Pretty Deadly haven't been used great at all on the main roster, despite being very talented
I know i’m a bit late to this video, but Buddy Murphy (Buddy Matthews) will always be the most shocking release for me. The guy has EVERYTHING and he’s still not being utilised properly in AEW.
Braun Strowman was PEAKING in 2017. The problem is Vince McMahon hated the fans for not cheering Roman so he was borderline sabotaging the product. Elimination Chamber 2018’s booking is absolutely ridiculous looking back 💀💀
I watch WWE since 2015, and the ones I saw that it was soo easy to turn into a star that WWE fumble are almost the entire main event/mid card of NXT black and gold era, Bray Wyatt, Dolph Ziggler and Strowman
Ryback was an awful worker and a bunch of top guys like cena orton punk etc considered him dangerous and those guys especially cena pretty much run the show.
Who remember the time that during the 2016 a lot fans wanted to Dean to the win Royal Rumble and headline WrestleMania, he was this close of winning the whole damn thing but to only get eliminated by HHH who win by the number 30 entrance
Honestly I think the reason this happens with Vince is bc he was so stubborn with anyone he didn’t discover himself and got popular in nxt what a jerk lol
I remember, as crazy as this sounds. People thought Alex Riley could have been the heir apparent to John Cena for a very brief widow of time. He came along during this period of time before there was an NXT as we know it now. And there seemed to be no obvious replacement for Cena. A-Ry came along and for a brief window. Seemed like he was the guy.
EC3 was another one I feel like they fumbled. I first saw EC3 in TNA in 2014. I knew he was destined to be a top guy he had the mic skills, wrestling skill, good character could play both heel and Face When I saw that he signed to WWE and he showed up in NXT I just knew they were gonna give him a great push man was I wrong.
I’ll give a shoutout to the iiconics had so much potential as a pillar of the tag team division and were never really give an opportunity to get there character work over
Santi made this video, because Dijak got released 😭. But we all know the Ascension had the biggest fumble of all time
Damn near half of Nexus also
@@ShotInTheDark407 man, Justin Gabriel had so much potential
It was criminal how the Ascension were treated.
True
@@ShotInTheDark407nah nexus were bunch of jobbers lol people just whine and cry about them not winning at SummerSlam. If they wins at SummerSlam nothing would've changed in their solo because at the end it's depend on then individually all of them flop except Bray and barrett and bryan. Out of which Bray and bryan became top guy by their own and Barrett was only one benefited was nexus to good midcarder. WWE really tried on ryback and he flopped
You forgot swerve Strickland
He’s in AEW
Swerve was wasted
@@jonahbartolomehe was in wwe first
Definitely was waiting for Swerve because shorty is in his bag over in AEW
He was in WWE too. @jonahbartolome
Nakamura will forever be their biggest missed opportunity in my book
What's even worse comes out at number 14 which is considered a curse number during the Royal Rumble, he wins the damn thing only to lose at Wrestlemania and turn heel
No he won’t, Nakamura proved he was overhyped a long time ago
Nah. Shin NEVER delivers in matches, he also can’t talk or carry a feud.
@@sydneymerkleynah he can, his feud with sami zany in nxt proves he can make a feud worth while, he just needs a manager for him to talk imo
FIN BALOR IS BEING WASTED BUTTON (I love him)
They completely dropped the ball with Sting. No title wins, 4 matches, and gets buried twice, with one said burial being at wrestlemania. Horrible.
Like how do you fumble sting??? 😭
@@elconcaro8031they didn’t fumble him though, he got injured and they didn’t clear him
@joshuachan7640 they still fumbled him awfully in the short run he had pre-injury
@@cazzok why? Because he didn’t face the undertaker at wrestlemania that year?
the loss vs Triple H wasn't bad but there was no reason for him to be in the title match vs Seth Rollins
I did not expect Dijaks release coming. In my fantasy booking, I had the judgment day, turning on Damien Priest, and replacing him with Dijak making him the Judgement days new “leader”.
That could work, if it's done right
I wasn't surprised since he hasn't appeared on Raw onve since the draft. I didn't necessarily think he was gonna get released, but more so get treated like Cedric Alexander where he just isn't used at all even though he's phenomenal.
@@AquaLeaderJesse see I thought they were holding off until either Money in the Bank qualifier like Blair Davenport or wait till The Judgment Day turns on Damien.
@@darkneon5637 I booked it as whenever Liv fully convinced everyone in the Judgement Day except for Damien, after he loses the WHC due to Judgment Day “accidentally” costing Damien the titl , the next night on Raw, they address it in the ring, they go back in forth, but at the end of the night, Damien forgives them only for Dijak to attack him along with the rest of JD. Just kinda keep it simple. But I would’ve had Dijak debut already having matches already. You would see him in the background during JD segments.
@@bmak111 that would have been great
Didn’t watch yet but Ember Moon gotta be on here
Her and The Ascension
Her second nxt run was terrible. She deserved better
Facts her finisher was 🔥
Kieth Lee too
Coolest finisher I’ve ever seen
This video made me way more appreciative of HHH and WWE today for how well they treat NXT call ups (for the most part)
Day 7 of asking Santi to make a Best PLE of every year (2004-2024)
Keep going my prodigy, you're taking after me. 👏
@@kevinuchiha6830 yes master Kevin
@@AlfieMurphy-y5c making me tear up 🥹
@@AlfieMurphy-y5c don't let anyone tell you can never do it, I got mine you will get yours 😤
What about Natalya? They wasted her for like 15 years!
Kieth Lee self sabotaged himself. WWE told him to lose weight and if you watched him then and now he’s winded constantly. Gunther was told to lose weight and did, and now he’s a star.
What is up with WWE forcing overweight guys to loose some weight, they it still wrestle well
@@darkneon5637 because it’s dangerous on their heart and for their opponent.
@@sydneymerkley that reasonable
I think they are hinting Jon Moxley return with all the shield stuff at wrestle mania Last Monday they showed him on Seth’s recovery video and now the shield triple powerbomb on smack down
My own list:
The Wyatt Family: The Fiend had some irritable booking decisions, but Bray and his followers in the early days of their main roster run just had bad booking all around. They were white hot coming up and they immediately feuded with Kane which led to a Ring of Fire Match. Bray also just took on lower tier talent like Miz and Kofi that probably should’ve been good, but they were more or less filler matches for PPVs. It wasn’t until the feud with Daniel Bryan, The Shield, and John Cena where it felt like they were getting somewhere even with the bad booking sprinkled in time from time. After Cena defeated Wyatt, The Wyatt Family became an after thought. Rowan was barely around, Harper was a decent mid-carder, and Wyatt just kinda floated feud to feud. They came back together with Braun Strowman now on their side, but just couldn’t break through like they used to and they were buried to Brock, Taker, Rock, and Cena (again even in a segment). They tried with Wyatt, Orton, and Harper which worked until Bray got the world title and lost it in a horrible title match at WM33. Vince just never believed in these guys.
Cesaro: His character work might not have been the best, but he was a good worker for the mid-card. Dude should’ve won the U.S. or IC Title in his babyface run. He did some great stuff with Ziggler and Owens. Even with Sheamus, he developed a great character and then he just existed until he got his title match against Reigns in 2021 and then got released.
Dolph Ziggler: I don’t need to talk about Ziggler. Maybe not main event material in the long haul, but he was pretty much modern day Shawn Michaels with his athleticism, aura, and selling. He was a great mid-carder and proved he can be reliable. Even if he ended up still getting released, 2013 was his year to at least get that main event run he was destined for.
Big E: I’m a major Big E fan and I was so happy that he won the MiTB Briefcase in 2021. I was looking forward to seeing how they would book him as WWE Champion and firmly believed if he was just kept in that picture, he wouldn’t have suffered his potential career ending injury cause he wouldn’t have to work with Ridge Holland. Instead, he lost the title in a Fatal 5 Way to Brock. Didn’t even get a rematch at the Royal Rumble. And then suffered that injury in the build up to a lower tier tag team match.
Shinsuke Nakamura: I think Nakamura is pretty much the definition of “Vince just wanted this guy because he’s popular in Japan and he wanted to taste that fame.” He had a decent run in NXT and honestly, I still felt like he had a few more months on the yellow brand personally. It’s clear Vince didn’t know how to use him when he came up to the main roster.
Rey Mysterio: Yes, he’s a Hall of Famer. Yes, he’s going down as one of the greatest luchadors of all time. Yes, he’s had a great career, but not a good world title track record. Won the strap in 2006 doing it for Eddie and proceeded to lose every big match he was in except for defending the title. Won again in 2010, only had a month reign and lost to Kane. Won the WWE Championship and lost it on the same night to John Cena. Pretty much Vince just didn’t want him as world champion because he’s a little guy.
EC3: Boy never had a chance and I honestly would’ve taught Vince would bank money on this guy.
i remember when Big E first debuted he was booked like a monster. New Day kind of ruined him
Buddy Murphy is another name I can think of. I never followed him before his call-up, but his matches with Aleister Black were some of my favorites. They really let both of them walk.
I still remember from when I was 9 and Alex Riley turned on The Miz. Specifically one episode where he had a tag match with John Cena against The Awesome Truth with Stone Cold as special guest referee. The good guys won and all shared beers with Austin. It was one of those Mondays where as a 9 year old, it was impossible to fall asleep from how amped I was.
Other Names not mentioned in the Video that I find were completely Fumbled
-Ember Moon
-Sting
-Cesaro
-The Ascension
-Mustafa Ali
-Bobby Roode
-Elias
Swerve too
I honestly thoughts that Bobby Roode was going be to the new Ric Flair
@@darkneon5637 same
SANTI WE NEED A PART TWO, there's Cesaro, Ember Moon, Swerve Strickland, just to name a few ALSO BRO YOURE DOING GREAT KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK
Alex Riley got the treatement and pop like Virgil when he popped on Milion dollar man , only thing that Virgil got more was a title , Alex Riley got jabbated😂
HHH has two kinds of NXT call ups:
1. You're the next big thing we're gonna push you to the moon immediately
2. Uhhhhhh, yeah sure we could use you up on the main roster for a bit. Plans? 🤷♂️
Cameron Grimes instantly comes to mind, he was wasted so hard
@@dwightyboy5324what's funny was Triple H has high expectations for Cameron Grimes and then never use him on TV
@@teemimika7105 I thought Grimes would've done way better under Triple H, he used him pretty well on NXT and had a good run even after HHH stepped down, he had like 5 TV matches and 2 were quash matches. Why they even brought him to the main roster to barely do anything with him for a year is beyond me
@@dwightyboy5324 I don't know why Triple H doesn't use his NXT method of booking where everyone got some kind of chances and were in more similar power level with each other especially with stacked roster today. Felt like WWE today is too business minded so they specifically handpicked who they wanted to be a main eventer and let everyone else fight in circles and never let them move up the card. Guys like Cameron is a casualty of business driven WWE
@@teemimika7105 yeah it's definitely kind of confusing why people will get released without really getting a chance. Doesn't help some of them are just regulated to house shows and dark matches, so the chance of them getting over goes down. Grimes had the talent to get a good crowd reaction, but was wasted for a year and let go. I hope someone like Kiana James or Blair Davenport doesn't go through a similar experience, or anyone else for that matter.
Shout out to Alex Riley, super whatever, but BUT, with one of the best entrance songs of all time. "SAY IT TO MY FAACE!" Absurdly good for somebody so mid.
Finn Balor. Fumbled since his injury tho his NXT runs were good. Especially fumbled with the Demon character too.
Finn is literally a top star and one of the most used stars. His demon character was protected in loses as well. He should be in mitb though
I agree to a point. Finn should be a main event player
Dude is a grand slam winner. Your logic is hilariously dumb.
my issue with these "wasted" arguments is who gets put down in place of a joe or dean if dean was in wwe still we might never get main event jay uso if joe was a top guy la knight might have to be put down some things happen for a reason
With this video you can make another of “People WWE almost flopped” like LA Knight to Max Dupri back to LA Knight.
In my opinion like this is why a lot of stars in other promotions that were in WWE dont want to go to WWE cause they probably will get treated like trash again
Ryback must be on that list, i remember the 2013 run when I was a kid, dude was amazing
John morrison. The reason why Vince didn't push him is because morrison was mature and didn't throw a tantrum about melina cheating on him with batista. Meanwhile when matt hardy got heated about the edge and lita thing he got fired.... bro vince is a child.
Vince was just acting Petty 😒
I'm getting ready for my rendition of I believe in Joe Hendry at bar karaoke tonight. Wish me luck.
The Fiend was such a gem. It's ashame vince had it out for the gimmick. I think he was just mad the fiend was the most overwrestler when he wanted others to be more over.
The Fox execs didn't like the Fiend either. Only the edge lords cared about it.
*A couple of names when it comes to WWE fumbling the bag with are these superstars for me…*
Dean Ambrose: Despite being possibly the most popular member of The Shield, the company always treated him like the black sheep as they were more favorable towards Rollins(Triple H’s Guy) and Reigns(Vince McMahon’s guy). Not to mention the fact that I hated how they turned them into a complete comedy act.
Bray Wyatt: He was one of the most intriguing characters in the history of the company but yet every time it seemed like he was gonna get pushed the company just did their best to completely squander his momentum.
Christian: He was one of WWE’s most loyal workers but it’s very clear that Vince McMahon for some particular reason hated his guts as he wanted to put a blue dot on his face. Plus, he should’ve been a multipletime world champion throughout his tenure.
Samoa Joe: This guy was just a total package: great talker, immensely over with the audience and a phenomenal worker in the square circle despite his size. Yet somehow someway, they still didn’t know how to utilize him. The fact that Jinder Mahal was WWE champion and he never did so insulting to me.
Owen Hart: Despite being a part of one of the most famous families in the history of wrestling, I am so appalled that this man never got to be world champion, despite having all the tools to be a world champion from his phenomenal in-ring work, excellent promo skills and was a great human being.
A couple honorable mentions: Ricochet, Allister Black, Ember Moon, Dolph Ziggler, Gail Kim, Cesaro, etc.
Christian is a 2x world champion
You forgot the Ascension
@@SuperSaiyanBroku True, but both reigns were very forgettable. First one lasted literally just two days and the second run lasted just barely a month. While his rivalry with Randy Orton was undeniably, he was made to look completely weak by always coming up short compared to Orton.
this feels like a comprehensive list of their biggest misses
I thought I was the only one who was a very big ember moon fan haha.
santi this needs a part two this is like a therapy session for us
forgot Nakamura, he’s similar to samoa joe in the sense he built his name somewhere else, sure he won titles but they kept giving him dumb gimmicks with boogs and dumb intentions, nakamura is one of the best talents in the world, yet they never put the big one on him, he should’ve beat jinder in 2017 for the big one and should’ve beat seth with his current anime gimmick
Video idea: best fan interactions/crowds ever
Samoa Joe and Braun Strowman not winning the Universal title in 2017 or 2018 was a travesty.
None of their names is Roman Reigns
Dean Ambrose hit his peak in 2016 and it all went downhill from there, meanwhile Seth and Roman only got pushed harder up the card. It’s a true shame.
It's a shame how he never won the 2016 Royal Rumble
@@darkneon5637 it's crazy how vince gave the win to HHH and not Ambrose... WM 32, roman vs dean would have been crazy good. Could have even added seth into the mix (if he wasn't injured, i dont recall if he was healthy during this time).
@@carloscraigito7384 And also Dean was the IC Champion during the match he could be the second ever wrestler to held the WWE Champion and IC title at the exact same night
You forgot about EC3 too, they did not even tried something with the guy
I never bought into EC3, even when TNA tried to strap a rocket on him.
TBH Ambrose is the least good member of the Shield. WWE has proven recently that they no longer really need him now.
He was the first wrestlers to win the top 3 titles in each wrestling business
Wrestling wise sure but bro was a amazing at promos and I can’t necessarily rank shield members they’re styles of wrestling, promo work, and overall aesthetic are nothing alike so there’s nothing to compare
This isn't true at all. For the longest time he was arguably the best member. Look at his early aew stuff for a great example.
@cerebralassassin2185 well he isn't the best anymore. Roman and seth are levels above him now. Ambrose peaked early.
Always thought Ambrose was overrated, he was decent in WWE, but AEW pretty much exposed why WWE never pushed him the same way they did Roman and Seth. Plus he never came across as a top guy in interviews
This video brings back a lot of bad memories, pisses me off how badly they fumbled so many people
Damien Sandow is another prime example. He was so damn over, even before the Mizdow stuff. Remember WrestleMania 31? When he eliminated Miz from the Andre The Giant Memorial Battle Royal? The pop he got from it was HUGE.
I completely forgot about Damien Sandow
Santi advocating Dijak was fumbled something i didnt expect considering he got Ratio'd a lot
I mean obliviously the Zack Ryder
I know he's a commentator now but Wade Barrett HAS to be one. Was so over at one point...
Hideo Itami, Swerve, Deonna Purrazzo, Mickie James (return), Dana Brooke, and Harper, Kushida, (imo) Yoshi Tatsu, Zack Ryder, EC3, The IIconics, Ember Moon, GAIL KIM, and more
Current that come to mind: The Good Brothers, Nakamura, Mis Yim, Cedric, Natalya (which is crazy), Apollo, LA Knight (just not giving him his flowers), Balor, Pete Dunne, Corbin, Naomi, Justin Gabriel and more
I mean , AEW made Adam Cole a manager as well ..
Isn’t he injured last time I saw Adam cole he was injured not in kayfabe
You forgot Nicholas
Day 36 of asking Santi to start training to wrestle to settle his beef with Dijak in a WWE ring
Have you watched the monthly q&a video? He actually talked about wanting to get in the ring at least once
@@jessysherwood1870 I’ve missed a few actually so I don’t know if he answered this or not
I agree with 99% of these and probably could add 20 more. With that said, am I the only person that doesn't get Dean Ambrose/Jon Moxley at all?
He has had a few decent promos, but nothing that is more than a funny soundbite. His ring work is not good at all and his characters are pretty boring. If the only thing tuat sets you apart is bleeding in every match, is that actually special?
I will never forget that infamous podcast with Stone Cold. If you cannot pull it together for an opportunity like that, that's on you.
We need the same energy as the "We Want Cody" Movement for Dijak
I can’t help but feel like WWE could’ve done more with Matt Cardona. The Zack Ryder character was over, they gave him that Internet Championship belt to strut around with. I just can’t help but to wonder what would’ve happened if they seriously pushed him.
Hey y’all, trying to post this on all of the accounts I regularly watch. I’ve been watching wrestling since 2021 super religiously, and this Monday is going to be my first ever show! Got some cheap tickets in TD Garden, and I’m so excited! I know about dark matches, speed matches, and main event, but I was wondering if y’all had any tips about attending a show live? Arrival time, sign usage, and any other tips would be so greatly appreciated!
Hit Row got fumbled really badly, they were very promising in nxt but when swerve got released they lost their most valuable asset and none of the members have really been the same since. Sure their in ring performance isn’t the best but I also feel like they never really got a lot of chances to shine on the main roster
Dijak lacked a good gimmick. Retribution coulda been good if they didn't straight up book that group like garbage.
i’d like to add Mercedes Moné to the list. I think the work she put in outside of the wwe in ring wise has been amazing, I do feel like they both benefited each other as wwe worked with her on her promo skills and she put on great matches
I agree with Dijack. Back in the day, him and keith lee's feud in NXT was phenomenal and both of them were AMAZING wrestlers. Oh, keith lee was a double champ in NXT and did nothing on the main roster so he indeed was also fumbled
Cesaro
Insanely strong and impressive in the ring and always got incredible reactions but was relegated to the mid card/tag team division even though everyone knew he should have been a main eventer except McMahon.
Wasn't that because of his poor mic work?
@@nalday2534 They could have given him a manager.
@@nalday2534 it's not like Vince hasn't pushed other guys who couldn't cut it on the mic like Swagger, Khali and even Roman at first
@@frozoneyeah6987 that's true yeah
He is still nothing more than a mid carder in Aew too who won't possibly no championship so what r u talking about. Atleast he was midcard champion in wwe as far i remember and got world title matches at ple
I think some of WWE's biggest fumbles are The Fiend, Shinsuke Nakamura, Dijak, Ricochet, Zack Ryder, Mojo Rawley, Keith Lee, Finn Balor, Wade Barrett, Aleister Black, and Dolph Ziggler.
BUT! Their biggest absolute fumble of all time, and they will likely never have a fumble this bad ever again, is Cesaro. He was misutilized from day one till the end. He should have been world champion right after winning Andre Memorial BR, after WM30. by now, at least 5 time world champion. Vince f*cked him over so bad.
i love santi shitting on vince, i couldn’t agree more about the booking from 2008-2021
One that I feel like was grossly misused was Kane about a year after his debut (was so over, they then gave him the title by having the terrifying guy knocked out for one day) . Basically, he was left as an upper mid carder for ovwr a decade for no reason.
Santi mentioned a lot of big star that WWE fumbled except the biggest one of all that is swerve strickland
4:55 That guy looks like LA Knight cosplayer
Vader comes to mind. He was a big deal everywhere else, but when got to WWE they didn't know how to use him.
im still mad that alex riley never became champion and also shelton benjamin should've been world champion
santi making deadpool jokes for the first time... looks like he is a good marvel fan too
You are my favorite wrestling UA-camr.
Buddy Matthews was such a good wrestler and his cruiserweight title reign was my favorite and he was one of the best thing to come out of 205 live
Day 76 of asking you to rank every superstar based off of pure in ring ability
The video discusses several WWE superstars who were mishandled by the company, including Dolph Ziggler, Alex Riley, Christian, Cameron Grimes, Keith Lee, Aleister Black, Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman, Dean Ambrose, and the Undisputed Era.
Key moments:
00:00 The WWE is proficient at developing talent but often fails to utilize already talented individuals, like the case of the wrestler Daack, showcasing a pattern of mismanagement and missed opportunities.
-The WWE's successful talent scouting and training processes have been instrumental in creating mega-stars over the years.
-Despite its talent development prowess, the WWE has a history of overlooking and underutilizing exceptionally skilled wrestlers, leading to missed opportunities and frustration.
-The case of Daack exemplifies the WWE's failure to recognize and capitalize on top-tier talent, resulting in the wrestler being mismanaged and eventually not being resigned, highlighting a significant flaw in the company's approach.
04:05 Alex Riley and Christian are examples of wrestlers who had potential to be top stars but were not properly utilized by WWE, leading them to find success in other promotions like AEW and TNA.
-Alex Riley had a brief period in WWE where he could have been a major babyface alongside John Cena but was underutilized, causing him to leave and potentially thrive elsewhere.
-Christian, despite having a successful tag team career in WWE, was overlooked as a singles star possibly due to Vince McMahon's personal preference, leading him to shine in TNA as a top champion.
08:09 Cameron Grimes, a standout NXT performer, faced missed opportunities and lack of exposure on the WWE main roster, reflecting a common trend of talented NXT stars struggling to shine in the bigger stage.
-The challenges faced by NXT stars transitioning to the WWE main roster and the struggle to receive similar opportunities and exposure, as seen in the case of Cameron Grimes.
-The impact of missed opportunities and lack of creative direction on the careers of talented wrestlers like Cameron Grimes, leading to underutilization and eventual release from the WWE.
-The frustration and disappointment among fans and viewers who witness promising NXT talents fail to reach their full potential on the larger platform of the WWE main roster, highlighting the need for better transition strategies.
12:13 Keith Lee, Alistair Black, and Bray Wyatt, among others, faced missed opportunities and poor booking in WWE, hindering their potential and character development.
-Keith Lee and Alistair Black were not utilized well on the main roster, despite their success in NXT, leading to missed opportunities for both talents.
-Bray Wyatt's character, The Fiend, was mishandled by WWE, with contradictory storylines and illogical booking decisions, ultimately hindering his potential as a supernatural character.
-Braun Strowman's wasted potential and missed opportunities in WWE parallel the struggles faced by other talented wrestlers due to poor booking and storytelling under Vince McMahon's leadership.
16:16 Braun Strowman, despite being popular, was not pushed to the top in WWE due to not being named Brock Lesnar or Roman Reigns. The mishandling of Dean Ambrose and John Moxley outside WWE also highlights poor decisions by the company.
-Missed opportunity with Braun Strowman's potential as a top star due to company preferences for other names like Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns.
-Mishandling of Dean Ambrose (John Moxley) within WWE leading to his departure and subsequent success outside the company.
-Failure to capitalize on the talented faction, Undisputed Era, in WWE's developmental system, resulting in missed potential on the main roster.
20:19 Many talented individuals in WWE, like Samoa Joe and Mauro Ranallo, struggled due to mismanagement and lack of opportunities, leading them to find success outside WWE, showcasing the company's shortcomings.
-Samoa Joe, despite being successful in NXT, faced mismanagement on the main roster, highlighting WWE's failure to utilize his talent effectively.
-Mauro Ranallo, a respected commentator, left WWE due to a toxic work environment, underscoring the company's inability to retain top-tier talent.
-Tony Storm, a promising wrestler, was underutilized in WWE, leading to her departure and subsequent success in AEW, exposing WWE's failure to capitalize on her potential.
Short version : overhyped by the IWC .
Huge fan man keep it up!!
The fact that there are so many superstars that been fumbled by Vince.
And Triple H only fumbled at least one (Unfortunate) superstar.
Really says alot...
Triple H really knows how to use NXT Top stars,like what he does currently with call-ups like Lyra Valkyria,Bron Breakker and Carmelo Hayes,that's why what happened with Dijak (especially because Dijak is soo talented) is very shocking
Triple H definitely fumbled more than one wrestler, guys like Jinder Mahal, Cameron Grimes, Elias, Rick Boogs, Madcap Moss, Lacey Evans, those are some people that could've been used way better even if they had some weaknesses. Vince fumbled a lot of guys to don't get me wrong, but Triple H has also made a lot of missteps. Even guys employed still like Shinsuke Nakamura, Karrion Kross, and Pretty Deadly haven't been used great at all on the main roster, despite being very talented
Ember moon is one of the biggest examples of this, so much talent and potential and they had no vision for her
Biggest fumble imo was stings wwe run
They brought him to fight hunter and rollins get buried instead of fighting taker. Insane
@@nalday2534What even worse, he almost suffered a career ending injury by Seth 🤦🏾♂️
Can we get a we want dijak movement
Day 6 of asking Santee to guest wrestlers by there forehead
I know i’m a bit late to this video, but Buddy Murphy (Buddy Matthews) will always be the most shocking release for me. The guy has EVERYTHING and he’s still not being utilised properly in AEW.
Braun Strowman was PEAKING in 2017. The problem is Vince McMahon hated the fans for not cheering Roman so he was borderline sabotaging the product. Elimination Chamber 2018’s booking is absolutely ridiculous looking back 💀💀
I heard far cry 5 and immediately started singing only youuuuuuu
They fumble the ball with DIJAK right now
I would love to see him be the leader of The Judgement Day
@@darkneon5637 judgment day don't want no leader why you think edge got kick out of the group
@@Devondavis-fm2dz I mean yeah you're kind of right but just imagine if he was
@@darkneon5637 it would been dope
I watch WWE since 2015, and the ones I saw that it was soo easy to turn into a star that WWE fumble are almost the entire main event/mid card of NXT black and gold era, Bray Wyatt, Dolph Ziggler and Strowman
Fumbles by WWE
1) CJ Parker (Juice Robinson)
2) Justin Gabriel (P.J. Black)
3) Ryback
4) John Morrison
Ryback was an awful worker and a bunch of top guys like cena orton punk etc considered him dangerous and those guys especially cena pretty much run the show.
They all are jobbers
Literally none of those guys you named are doing anything to prove WWE fumbled them.
Karrion Kross, Pete Dunne, DIY (tag team and Individual stars), Swerve Strickland, Shinsuke Nakamura.
To be fair to the WWE they aren't the only company to miss use talent just think of Undertaker and Stone Cold in WCW.
Its annoying when people act like it's never happened in any other company ever
Excuse me if i don't cry for Dean Ambrose. Stone Cold flatlined his carrer.
Ambrose is overrated
i have herd that john cena did not like alex riliy and which was the reason for alex's push going down. could be wrong tho
I remember when Alex riley was the mizs lacky and the streets said he had a great theme song
Ember Moon is another name I'd add on this list
Who 🤨
The WWE needs another show like Raw or SmackDown for these NXT call-ups who need more time on Raw, and SmackDown can go on that show.
Who remember the time that during the 2016 a lot fans wanted to Dean to the win Royal Rumble and headline WrestleMania, he was this close of winning the whole damn thing but to only get eliminated by HHH who win by the number 30 entrance
Haven’t watched a second of the video but Athena/Ember Moon is the biggest one currently.
Ascension is worse
They fumbled the potential of Dijak vs Keith Lee. FIGHT FOREVER. Those two together could feed generations with their 5* matches.
Christian is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time. Best theme song of all time too
New episode suggestions. Wrestler who actually works in Vince McMahon era
Only so many spots at the top
Bro that pic of Alex Riley looks like la knight if he was 20 years younger and without a beard
santis dijak rant really reminds me of the you have no Idea how good tim duncan was meme
Honestly I think the reason this happens with Vince is bc he was so stubborn with anyone he didn’t discover himself and got popular in nxt what a jerk lol
I remember, as crazy as this sounds. People thought Alex Riley could have been the heir apparent to John Cena for a very brief widow of time.
He came along during this period of time before there was an NXT as we know it now. And there seemed to be no obvious replacement for Cena. A-Ry came along and for a brief window. Seemed like he was the guy.
the fact that oddesey jones is still in the company is crazy
Ah man I still remember how over Alex Riley got when he separated from the Miz I became a fan of the guy, sucks it didn’t go too far
Thank you dijak me and my friends only watch nxt for the last year and dijak was our favorite he will be missed
EC3 was another one I feel like they fumbled. I first saw EC3 in TNA in 2014. I knew he was destined to be a top guy he had the mic skills, wrestling skill, good character could play both heel and Face When I saw that he signed to WWE and he showed up in NXT I just knew they were gonna give him a great push man was I wrong.
I’ll give a shoutout to the iiconics had so much potential as a pillar of the tag team division and were never really give an opportunity to get there character work over
Santi, I am mad that you didn't include Dolph Ziggler. He was possibly the biggest fumble that they had.
Dolph Ziggler, Cesaro, Nakamura, Finn Balor, Zack Ryder, Neville(Pac)