and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art from Southern India
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
I love hearing Joe talk about history, and especially martial arts history because he's kiiiinda right but also so wrong in other parts, yet he talks with such confidence. It's hilarious.😂 I would love to watch a conversation between Joe and an actual martial arts nerd/historian (with degrees and shit). 😂❤
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
Why don't you set up a meeting with Joe Jitsukawa to correct him on his basic knowledge of Japanese martial arts history? I would love to get you three in the room, you, an actual martial arts nerd/historian (with degrees and shit) and Joe talking about this shit.
Every time the these “masters” lose they always have an excuse like. “ I couldn’t use my death touch on you because I promised my master I wouldn’t use it on civilians” 😂😂😂
About Joe's comments on Miyamoto Musashi. He didn't exist only in the 250 year time of peace (tokugawa/edo period). Musashi was very much alive during the times of War and possibly even participated in the battle of Sekigahara. He killed his first opponent at 13 years old, and he no noubt trained, fought, and killed opponents who were also war experienced!
What is the goal of traditional martial arts we hear about now? To train your body and mind, not to beat someone in a fighting contest. The masters aren’t the number one fighter capable of defeating strong human beings, they’re the ones who have a high mastery of skill and are able to teach it. Ip Man is not real. If you don’t face a real fight or competition, it doesn’t get tested. If you got into a fight and didn’t survive, it didn’t evolve. If it worked, it didn’t need to evolve.
Western boxing too. In olden days it had elbow strikes, open palm and back hand strikes with some leg strikes and grappling. Then it became more sports oriented and people wanting to see more trading blows and haymakers or knockouts. So rules were added and certain strikes phased out or made illegal in the sport. Honestly I would love to see how original boxing worked. I feel it be widely accepted now a days.
Every traditional art was to kill, literally it's to be used in combat but you can't use it in sport. so they conform it to a sport that's about art and getting points.
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
@@scyber_avatar I also heard the true war time kung fu is more similar to wreslting and lock techniques to subdue the enemy. Now it's more like the form and how you can archive correct combos. It's really interesting when looking at it from a history standpoint
Its also the the people challenging MMA fighters fault. Like MMA is already at minimum 4 martial arts boxing, muay thai, wrestling and jiu jitsu vs one? Especially that Aikido guy is extra stupid. In MMA you’re not allowed to do small joint manipulation and what does Aikido do? Small joint manipulation.
Can't punch the face in kyokushin because of risk of injury. Could break a hand, get fight bite (infection from cutting your hand on opponents teeth). They took a hard approach to everything, no gloves, no nothing. I'm sure in a regular fight a kyokushin dude would have no issue punching a dude out.
I took Taekwondo as a kid and got up to a certain belt colour, I believe blue belt with yellow stripes. It’s probably the most ineffective martial art form, in a real fight. In a real fight, you don’t have time to set up your strikes. Taekwondo is 90% setting up (super slow) and 10% striking. By the time you’re setting up for a side kick, you’re already knocked out. It takes too long to get your strike off. Like Joe said, Taekwondo spawned out of wartime in Korea and was created by an army general, General Choi Hong Hee, most likely to foster Korean nationalism. Bruce Lee’s Gung Fu variation - Jeet Kune Do, was so ahead of it’s time. It did away with the traditional, ineffective, slow, gung fu art form and created a martial art without limitations. Having no limitations as limitations. Jeet Kune Do was early MMA because the core philosophy was about intercepting fist and adapting to your opponent’s strikes.
Taekwondo I heard actually use hands too and it's similar to kick boxing but it's like a combat martial art so they use less of hands and just focus on kicking and setting up kicks.
I've seen Taekwondo irl before and it's not BS. Some guys were fighting in an alley way in Koreatown where I live around. The guy kicked some guy in the arm and the fight was done. I walked by like half a hour later and the guy who got kicked in the arm was crouching in the corner holding his arm in agony still lmao true story
I don't know anything about martial arts, but I do know my friends that are highly skilled in tkd and have been doing it nearly their whole lives are quick af and can definitely fuck someone up
Joe didn't mention tkd, and I cannot agree that tkd is most ineffective in real fight. Kungfu is joke in real fight and karate is also useless. And about Bruce Lee, he is overrated imo. He is more of actor and i agree with what Tarantino said about him.
15:35 Thaing > Lethwei = Muay boran > Muay Thai Lethwei is a part of Thaing, while Muay boran is an alternative version from a different place. Muay Thai is just a sports version.
Like what Nick was saying all you see is some young MMA guy challenge some old senior Kung Fu master and it ends being elder abuse lol It doesn't prove anything or that Kung Fu sucks or what not. You need a young Shaolin Monk vs a young MMA guy and test that out for better results. Kung Fu or martial arts in general is for health, discipline and fitness first and foremost not to fight 1 on 1 in a cage. I think that is the biggest misconception.
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
@@scyber_avatar Not true. Also his origin is disputed as he was labeled blue eyed barbarian. He could have come from Central Asia or South Asia. He only helped develop the Shaolin Temple but China created Kung Fu. Indians always trying to steal other people's history and culture smh
I noticed a lot of those MMA/K1 fighters in Japan have some sort of ties to the Yakuza. Like Sexyama has close friends in the Yakuza, he was on a Japanese show and introduced them once. Not sure if someone uploaded clips of it with subs tho
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art from Southern India
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
Ancient martial arts are useful against regular people who don’t know how to fight You have to realize in a population of 10 million people, maybe 100,000 know how to fight. Most of the time, in the real world life or death or fighting situation in the past with sticks and swords and stuff, you’re not fighting someone who knows any martial arts. Imagine you know kung fu and come across a drunk guy at an inn/tavern that wants to kick your ass but he doesn’t know kung fu. You’re kicking his ass. When you do fight someone who knows martial arts, you’re either sparring against a fellow student or fighting for dominance or survival. Also, most people in the past who knew martial arts wouldn’t be fighting with their fist and body. They would be using weapons. Martial arts is supplementing the weapon and for a last resort if you lose the weapon. It’s meant to build up your body so you can have strength and technique to use a weapon. If you don’t lose your weapon, you don’t need to use your skin and bones. If you knew martial arts, it was because you were taught it as a soldier or warrior or something like that. Random people didn’t know it since they would have no access to it, unless a group of farmers came up with it or something. It teaches you not just how to move your body but also how to think, why you move your body the way you do or strike where you strike. It’s not the best at beating someone up in a competition against modern stuff but that doesn’t mean it had no value. I watch too many movies and shows and don’t know much about the real history of that stuff but those are my thoughts on how it might’ve worked in the past. I don’t know if the martial arts people use are from movies or based on historic techniques.
Ok but to your point the warriors who needed to learn the martial arts weren’t fighting regular humans. They were fighting other warriors of other nations. Why creat a art to defeat a common man rather than an actual fighter. Still seems useless even for todays standards. Today why would you learn an ancient martial art rather than something like boxing or mma which point is to defeat even the strongest of humans.
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
Honestly, all chinese "traditional" martial arts (except Tai Chi) created themselves about 100 years ago. They were the group of "degenerates" pretty much, that tried to show their "Martial Arts" when China is going through one of the toughest time in Chinese history, while the real fighters fought and died in the never ending wars. Even in the Ming dynasty (second last dynasty), one of the best general Qi JiGuang in the 1500s wrote in his book stating there are so many fake martial artist showing off their arts. Qi said something like, these are only good for pumping some blood and nothing more. Qi would let his soldiers wrestle with each other; wrestling is the only martial arts that would help somewhat, since in close combat, everyone would be wearing heaving armor, so wrestling would do more damage.
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
It does. It's just the judo highlight reels are all these crazy high flying throws. In Judo competition, you win in 4 ways: slam them flat on their back, hold pin for 20 seconds, choke, and armbar. But if there's not much action on the ground and fighters just stall, then the referee would stand them up. Thus, throwing became a larger priority in the sport
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
Joe just teach a Japanese History class already lol, but na his knowledge about various things in history is awesome
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art from Southern India
Actually this is very true. Joe gives great context to a lot of things I learned in Japanese history. I would take a class taught by Professor Joe
"... I want to be Ninja" begins to play in my head when Joe and Ryan mentioned Ninja school. 😂
Lol I did the exact same deep dive as Joe. I feel so validated.
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
I love hearing Joe talk about history, and especially martial arts history because he's kiiiinda right but also so wrong in other parts, yet he talks with such confidence. It's hilarious.😂
I would love to watch a conversation between Joe and an actual martial arts nerd/historian (with degrees and shit). 😂❤
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
Why don't you set up a meeting with Joe Jitsukawa to correct him on his basic knowledge of Japanese martial arts history? I would love to get you three in the room, you, an actual martial arts nerd/historian (with degrees and shit) and Joe talking about this shit.
Every time the these “masters” lose they always have an excuse like. “ I couldn’t use my death touch on you because I promised my master I wouldn’t use it on civilians” 😂😂😂
The masters who attack with telekinetic powers are the best lol watch the bodies fly
The Marine Corps Martial Arts system is very effective. Foot sweeps to rifle butting to the head it's great
😂sounds effective
About Joe's comments on Miyamoto Musashi. He didn't exist only in the 250 year time of peace (tokugawa/edo period). Musashi was very much alive during the times of War and possibly even participated in the battle of Sekigahara. He killed his first opponent at 13 years old, and he no noubt trained, fought, and killed opponents who were also war experienced!
I can rewatch all the John wick movies all the time.
I like this Joe alot lol
What is the goal of traditional martial arts we hear about now? To train your body and mind, not to beat someone in a fighting contest. The masters aren’t the number one fighter capable of defeating strong human beings, they’re the ones who have a high mastery of skill and are able to teach it. Ip Man is not real.
If you don’t face a real fight or competition, it doesn’t get tested. If you got into a fight and didn’t survive, it didn’t evolve. If it worked, it didn’t need to evolve.
I'm sorry, but Joe is brilliant. Nick 😂😂 " nah, cuz it's always a white guy with a ponytail " 😂😂😂😂!
Western boxing too. In olden days it had elbow strikes, open palm and back hand strikes with some leg strikes and grappling. Then it became more sports oriented and people wanting to see more trading blows and haymakers or knockouts. So rules were added and certain strikes phased out or made illegal in the sport. Honestly I would love to see how original boxing worked. I feel it be widely accepted now a days.
Sounds similar to kick boxing
2:29 thank you joe for acknowledging this history ❤
Every traditional art was to kill, literally it's to be used in combat but you can't use it in sport. so they conform it to a sport that's about art and getting points.
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
@@scyber_avatar I also heard the true war time kung fu is more similar to wreslting and lock techniques to subdue the enemy. Now it's more like the form and how you can archive correct combos. It's really interesting when looking at it from a history standpoint
I was waiting for Nick to say: What do YoU think about it Kalyne? 😂
Its also the the people challenging MMA fighters fault. Like MMA is already at minimum 4 martial arts boxing, muay thai, wrestling and jiu jitsu vs one? Especially that Aikido guy is extra stupid. In MMA you’re not allowed to do small joint manipulation and what does Aikido do? Small joint manipulation.
This talk made me want to watch Tai chi master. The movie where jet LI and his brother get kicked out of the temple
Good movie
Can't punch the face in kyokushin because of risk of injury. Could break a hand, get fight bite (infection from cutting your hand on opponents teeth). They took a hard approach to everything, no gloves, no nothing. I'm sure in a regular fight a kyokushin dude would have no issue punching a dude out.
Mas Oyama has stated the reason there is no punching to the face is because you can condition your body to take hits but you can't condition the face!
However most Black belts know how to punch the head
Imagina going to a ninjitsu school in japan and the sensei turns out to be ryan higa😂
Is this to get into the crips? 😭🤣 had me dead
I took Taekwondo as a kid and got up to a certain belt colour, I believe blue belt with yellow stripes.
It’s probably the most ineffective martial art form, in a real fight. In a real fight, you don’t have time to set up your strikes. Taekwondo is 90% setting up (super slow) and 10% striking. By the time you’re setting up for a side kick, you’re already knocked out. It takes too long to get your strike off.
Like Joe said, Taekwondo spawned out of wartime in Korea and was created by an army general, General Choi Hong Hee, most likely to foster Korean nationalism.
Bruce Lee’s Gung Fu variation - Jeet Kune Do, was so ahead of it’s time. It did away with the traditional, ineffective, slow, gung fu art form and created a martial art without limitations. Having no limitations as limitations. Jeet Kune Do was early MMA because the core philosophy was about intercepting fist and adapting to your opponent’s strikes.
Taekwondo I heard actually use hands too and it's similar to kick boxing but it's like a combat martial art so they use less of hands and just focus on kicking and setting up kicks.
I've seen Taekwondo irl before and it's not BS. Some guys were fighting in an alley way in Koreatown where I live around. The guy kicked some guy in the arm and the fight was done. I walked by like half a hour later and the guy who got kicked in the arm was crouching in the corner holding his arm in agony still lmao true story
I don't know anything about martial arts, but I do know my friends that are highly skilled in tkd and have been doing it nearly their whole lives are quick af and can definitely fuck someone up
Joe didn't mention tkd, and I cannot agree that tkd is most ineffective in real fight. Kungfu is joke in real fight and karate is also useless. And about Bruce Lee, he is overrated imo. He is more of actor and i agree with what Tarantino said about him.
@@lincomgaming14 Disagree with everything you said smh
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15:35 Thaing > Lethwei = Muay boran > Muay Thai
Lethwei is a part of Thaing, while Muay boran is an alternative version from a different place.
Muay Thai is just a sports version.
Like what Nick was saying all you see is some young MMA guy challenge some old senior Kung Fu master and it ends being elder abuse lol It doesn't prove anything or that Kung Fu sucks or what not. You need a young Shaolin Monk vs a young MMA guy and test that out for better results. Kung Fu or martial arts in general is for health, discipline and fitness first and foremost not to fight 1 on 1 in a cage. I think that is the biggest misconception.
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
@@scyber_avatar Not true. Also his origin is disputed as he was labeled blue eyed barbarian. He could have come from Central Asia or South Asia. He only helped develop the Shaolin Temple but China created Kung Fu. Indians always trying to steal other people's history and culture smh
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Introduce the new guest.................Joe Proceeds to speak for 10min str8 lol
I noticed a lot of those MMA/K1 fighters in Japan have some sort of ties to the Yakuza. Like Sexyama has close friends in the Yakuza, he was on a Japanese show and introduced them once. Not sure if someone uploaded clips of it with subs tho
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art from Southern India
how many times ur gonna comment this
Joe story time needs to be a segment
Searching that karate now 😁
and now we have Jujutsu.... Kiasen
I miss practicing martial arts but classes got expensive and you barely learn anything 😅😢😂
Love ur vids
“Martial arts is just trying to look cool with fancy moves” - Saitama.
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
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Shaolin Kung Fu was first developed by a guy who came from India called Bodhidharma who lived during the 5th and 6th century CE in China.
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And we're back in feudal Japan😂
Kalyne looks so impressed when Joe was droppin gems! lol
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Where can j watch the full video or is that the whole episode before they used to do a podcast like 40mins to hr
This is the whole video. They upload 3 different videos per day, everyday. They very rarely have posted a video 40+ minutes long.
@@bethnichols2875 Thanks its been to long since I seen them i watched them when they were on the come up.
A hundred years from now if we don't doom ourselves, these mma disciplines are gonna face the same thing. 😂
Magic MMA would be WWE brought to life.
Ancient martial arts are useful against regular people who don’t know how to fight
You have to realize in a population of 10 million people, maybe 100,000 know how to fight. Most of the time, in the real world life or death or fighting situation in the past with sticks and swords and stuff, you’re not fighting someone who knows any martial arts.
Imagine you know kung fu and come across a drunk guy at an inn/tavern that wants to kick your ass but he doesn’t know kung fu. You’re kicking his ass.
When you do fight someone who knows martial arts, you’re either sparring against a fellow student or fighting for dominance or survival.
Also, most people in the past who knew martial arts wouldn’t be fighting with their fist and body. They would be using weapons. Martial arts is supplementing the weapon and for a last resort if you lose the weapon. It’s meant to build up your body so you can have strength and technique to use a weapon. If you don’t lose your weapon, you don’t need to use your skin and bones.
If you knew martial arts, it was because you were taught it as a soldier or warrior or something like that. Random people didn’t know it since they would have no access to it, unless a group of farmers came up with it or something.
It teaches you not just how to move your body but also how to think, why you move your body the way you do or strike where you strike. It’s not the best at beating someone up in a competition against modern stuff but that doesn’t mean it had no value.
I watch too many movies and shows and don’t know much about the real history of that stuff but those are my thoughts on how it might’ve worked in the past. I don’t know if the martial arts people use are from movies or based on historic techniques.
Ok but to your point the warriors who needed to learn the martial arts weren’t fighting regular humans. They were fighting other warriors of other nations. Why creat a art to defeat a common man rather than an actual fighter. Still seems useless even for todays standards.
Today why would you learn an ancient martial art rather than something like boxing or mma which point is to defeat even the strongest of humans.
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
is it true that the ratio of steves in JK can't be higher 1/6?
They are at 2mill now 🎉
Yea the guys who stand in public with a 100lb tree hanging from a rope just swinging imto their jibblys are another level…
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Honestly, all chinese "traditional" martial arts (except Tai Chi) created themselves about 100 years ago. They were the group of "degenerates" pretty much, that tried to show their "Martial Arts" when China is going through one of the toughest time in Chinese history, while the real fighters fought and died in the never ending wars. Even in the Ming dynasty (second last dynasty), one of the best general Qi JiGuang in the 1500s wrote in his book stating there are so many fake martial artist showing off their arts. Qi said something like, these are only good for pumping some blood and nothing more. Qi would let his soldiers wrestle with each other; wrestling is the only martial arts that would help somewhat, since in close combat, everyone would be wearing heaving armor, so wrestling would do more damage.
Which is why Mongolian wrestling is the main martial art in Mongolia.
Joe, BJJ and Japanese Jujutsu are different. BJJ comes from Judo, which came from JJJ
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
@@scyber_avataryeeeah i remember watching a Fight Quest episode about Kalaripayattu
2 million woot!
I thought judo still had arm bars and chokes, right?
It does. It's just the judo highlight reels are all these crazy high flying throws. In Judo competition, you win in 4 ways: slam them flat on their back, hold pin for 20 seconds, choke, and armbar. But if there's not much action on the ground and fighters just stall, then the referee would stand them up. Thus, throwing became a larger priority in the sport
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shoutout wonderboy he's fighting this weekend prolly gonna retire
2mil🎉
LOL, i think Joe did all this karate research after getting his feelings hurt from Brandon's comments
Of course people these days would debunked a art where it has history and skill. People just want to see someone knocked out.
I’m sure martial arts was useful centuries ago but things got lost in translation and now it’s becomes all show but no real technique.
and Joe didn't mention this ... but Sha0lin K0ng Fu was developed because of an Indian monk+martial artist who travelled there and taught them the ancient martial art & meditation techniques from India
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So guys, if we look to the left, we can see a Joe Jitsukawa happily info dumping on the history of Martial Arts
The way of the Jedi rules all though.
Kinda getting sick of this Joe, miss the 2016 Joe 😂. Joes either acting out too much or he’s David so with his explanations 🫤