Did Brexit Spark the Belfast Riots? What Really Instigated the Riots? - TLDR News
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Over the last week, some pretty serious violence and riots broke out in Northern Ireland. The cause of said violence is pretty confusing with different people pointing at different motives. So in this video we explain what happened in Belfast and try to unpick what might have caused this.
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Nobody who was even a little bit paying attention during the Brexit debate is in the least surprised.
@Paddy Ulsterman Uh oh! Everybody saw this coming, even the Brexiteers, but they have ploughed on regardless. Many Leave supporters in England saw the dissolution of the UK as an acceptable price to pay for BREXIT. 🤪
So there were no riots whilst we were in the EU and everyone lived in harmony after the Good Friday Agreement?
That's probably why nearly everyone is surprised.
@Paddy Ulsterman so are you saying that IRA terrorists have infilteated the DUP? That is a surprising development.
@Paddy Ulsterman So are you saying Unionists were attacking the police on Unionist strongholds, because of the SF misbehaviour?
Don't be mean to me or I'll punch my own teeth out... or curb stomp myself with my own foot on my head...That's some mighty contortion work, like the mental gymnastics your point seeks to perform.
Now when was a face plant considered a perfect dismount in gymnastics?
"Hey I've seen this one, this one's a classic!"
"What do you mean, it's brand new."
"No, it's a remake"
@@kimwit1307 A hard reboot
This is heavy.
@@BDaMonkey Great Scott!
@@davewhittaker9547 Yeah, they're acting up, too.
You’re actually doing a better job than the BBC.
The BBC is just a shadow of itself. It is being turned into a Tory party organ that will not report negative news from Britain if it disrupts the success of the Tories and Brexit. Similar to how almost all tabloids only report positively about Great Britain and blame the EU and others for everything that is negative. The British media landscape is almost similar to the media in the former Eastern Bloc countries.
@@callsigndd9ls897 The BBC isn't anything like the tabloid press.
Not hard
You're joking right. The BBC and other media hate the UK. They laugh at our flag, constantly making jokes about our PM, bang on relentlessly about how aweful the British empire was and how we should forever hate ourselves for it, how racist our tolerant country is. Sound like the eastern european block? No.
Gotta love how left and right wing people hate the BBC because it’s a right/left mouthpiece
This was on the news every night in the Republic of Ireland. It was 8 days of rioting before I heard it on the radio here in England
It's scary that I barely saw this anywhere on the news - thanks for making a video on it!
In the Republic of Ireland it was all over the news
It was also widely reported on Italian news!
@@Aryaitaly The fact that Italians are more aware of this than Brits is really freaky!
@@Luke-mt4ue Idk I think it was a joke about the flags mate
@@Luke-mt4ue just shows how little the majority in Britain actually cares about Northern Ireland, we're an afterthought for them.
I think it's fascinating how little people in the UK heard about this vs how much it was in the Irish news. Really highlights how little Britain actually cares about NI lmao.
Acorrding to other irish commenters they've not heard about it either
It's all over the mainstream news, your ignorance of the facts is your problem!
...how little Britain's government-controlled media care...
Some of us gave a damn in the 70s and 80s, and still give a damn now.
@@michaelmacdonell4834 Keep believing we're all brainwashed by the media.
While you come here for your news, an obviously biased news source!!
We all know someone like you, acts one way online, but the opposite in real life n behind closed doors!
@@benw-l7k it has been in Irish news I can confirm
I’m from Derry and I can’t even take my dog out for a walk without coming across molitovs in the street, the corner shop down the road was burned down too. Wasn’t actually sure what the hell was going on so thanks for this!
Seriously? Fuck me I’m so happy I live down south
This is Just an average day In a working class area wdum?
We are practically neighbors then as i know what shop you are referring too. It sucks balls knowing if you are walking through or near certain areas that you could have a brick or bottle thrown at you.
Hope it calms down soon.
I visited Derry both before and after the GFA and this sort of stupidity make me very sad. The multicoloured kerb stones and lampposts I saw in NI were both bright and dark at the same time. The GFA was an excellent bit of political co-operation, Brexit is a f"ck-up of staggering idiocy!
@@paulmcgrath6118 definitely a contribution to the issue, star dawg prices are through the roof😂
As a proud citizen and resident of Northern Ireland (whom - like many here - despises both the DUP and SF equally!), I commend you on the clear, concise and impartial production of this video. Good work.
All the Best to use over there mate Breaks me heart to see this
Nice one, you make me think that I have to think about that. CHEERS.
Long live the Northern Irish. You guys get consistently shafted by everyone.
@@dog-ez2nu dig a big deep deep really deep hole and say hello to the Australian people, Australia I apologize for my northern Irish humor, if you don't want him post off to New Zealand, opps new Zealand I'm only joking , you put a return to sender and they won't want him. Cheers dog for making me laugh.
Whole place is a mess at the moment, feel like the troubles are gonna spark up again, ballymoney
Hey remember when the Brexiteers said that Brexit wouldn’t cause trouble in Northern Ireland and that everyone (including myself) that said that it *would*, in fact, cause tensions to flare were a bunch of alarmists?
Yeah....
It's also ironic as everyone who tried to brush off the protentional for violence continuously asked if it was just Republicans threatening the return of the IRA..
The EU drafted the NI protocol.
The fact that the EU would be so intransigent on the border issues that this violence became unavoidable is exactly the sort of shit that made Brexit happen to begin with. It's Greece all over again. The EU caring more about it's project than what the people of it's constituent nations want/need.
@@Bushflare They don't care. The EU is willingly destabilising peace and supplies from mainland UK just to effect our economy. These unelected clowns have no legitimacy.
Something else the Brexiters didn't think through. Looks like it's only just begun.
Brexit is turning out to be the entry door to the police state.
Funny how the Policing Bill was all ready just as the EU appeal courts were given the boot.
This is like the real life equivalent of the 3 spiderman pointing at each other.
Spider-Man No Way Home spoiler
Although PSNI is pointing at itself considering they put the blame on themselves.
Perfectly Summed Up !!
Nice to see a media outlet actually covering this, the fact that the BBC would rather report on Kim Kardashian is disgusting
The Tories have cowed the BBC.
@@tonyb9735 it's just about every news outlet , they've started reporting now though iirc
I've just checked, they first reported on the Bobby Storey funeral on 29th March, and have been on top of it ever since as the violence escalated.
That you would use such a tragedy as an excuse to attack one of Britain's noblest institutions is quite frankly appalling.
@@alexpotts6520 This is satire right?
@@tonyb9735 defund the BBC
"Those protestants. Up to no good as usual."
-Father Ted Crilly
Down with this sort of thing!
@@johnchristopher5201 Careful now
They're at it again
NO SURRENDER
@@pureloyalist9277 the fact that your name is pure loyalist on this tells me you are a complete spastic
Just a clarification: the likes of the UDA and UVF are typically referred to as _loyalists_ not _unionists._ The former term is reserved for the more working-class "physical force" tradition within unionism, and so that more middle-class unionists can distance themselves from loyalists. A similar contrast exists between republicans and nationalists, but there's less of a class division there.
Didn't know that. Thanks for the explanation.
Loyalist = loyal to Ulster. Unionist = wanting to remain in union with the United Kingdom. Some loyalists aren’t necessarily unionist, distrust Westminster and would prefer an independent Protestant Northern Ireland.
Thank you. I hitherto thought the terms were interchangeable..
@@maxpowerii7368 Old Max boy doing his darndest to muddy the waters , believe him if you choose, Loyalists claim loyalty to the crown ergo the union and Britain. Must try harder Max. Grant you this much though , their one true loyalty, crime.
They still vote the same so hardly matters
Being from Co. Fermanagh. I didn't even realise this happened recently. What the hell are the media reporting brah
how mate? it was all over NI social media, like reddit and facebook and such
Thank you for Asda
Sincerely,
Cavan
Covid
why do you think the trust in UK Media is steadily declining? it's the reason john cleese wanted to leave the UK for some time now.
Yeah only Sky have covered what's happening in Mozambique as well. Don't know what they're doing.
I'm from the Armagh-Louth border and had no idea this was happening..
The British media doesn't like to show anything unrelated to English problems
a lot of media in other countries have also not reported on this.
Join the club mate.
This is the first I have heard about it. MSM have been very hush-hush on the matter. I wonder why?
RTÉ had news of this since Monday that’s when I seen it forst
So I take it you don't watch the news on TV, listen to talk radio or read a newspaper?
It's been reported widely in Irish and Northern Irish news media.
Get all your info through social media?
I live around the corner from last night's riots. Haven't slept a wink. Although I wasn't here at the time of the Troubles, it's easy to see how devastating those times were. I really wish the peace is restored soon.
best wishes with you, & hope you're able to get some rest in today
Ireland unfree shall never be at peace
@@joelynch7541 I'm not Irish but I pray for the freedom of the Irish people 🙏
@@alokozay300 Don't pray for murder, cause that's how they tried to achieve 'freedom' before
Gold star for mentioning Derry and Londonderry 😂
It's just derry
Let's just agree on Doire
@@cameronburke8002 How about Londaindoire?
Outside of the two tribes who cares?
How about Oak Grove?
Your channel is everything a news channel should be thank you.
yeah news channel...smh
It’s incredibly biased tho
The riots were a big topic of discussion in the news here in the Republic, I’m surprised how many people in the UK were unaware of the situation until they saw this video
I live 15mins away from Derry and only learned about it from this video. I check the news quite frequently too, push notifications on the phone from various news outlets, Reuters, BBC, AP, Foreign Policy, TheJournal mainly. Didn't hear a thing, bizarre. Maybe I just zoned out last week, no idea.
@Jack O'Kane As a person from the USA, it is hard to understand what the protesters want. Can you explain what is the goal. We will be in Ireland and England and I just want to understand.
@@dothemathemathics7537 I could write a whole book describing what’s going on rn, so I’ll try to keep it very simple.
Northern Ireland is split between two political parties, Sinn Fein (who wishes to unify the island of Ireland) and the DUP (who wants to keep Northern Ireland in the UK).
Brexit has caused a lot of unrest in Northern Ireland amongst both Unionists and Nationalists. Unionists feel betrayed by Westminster because goods entering Northern Ireland from the Republic have to be checked now and Nationalists are annoyed that Brexit even happened.
The riots in Belfast are largely being started by young Unionists who are being egged on by older ones who aren’t even going to the riots and there’s a worrying possibility things in Northern Ireland could worsen as things move forward since Brexit violates the Good Friday Agreement
Because basically, we see it as a completely alien society. Catholics and protestants living in segregated communities just doesn't have any connection with our life experience.
The tragedy for the unionists is that they have never really grasped how little emotional connection there is from the rest of the UK to NI. Most Brits would like to see nothing more than a united Ireland and wash their hands of the whole thing.
That's why it's so inexplicable that Arlene Foster would support Brexit.
Border in the Irish Sea or no deal with Brussels? There was only ever going to be one outcome.
@@dothemathemathics7537 I wouldn't know where to start, mate!
Im from Belfast, there's a huge difference in the way people are being treated here aswell. unionists have been rioting since Friday and the police force have been very easy on them. Nationalists gone involve last night - police are out with water canons and shooting plastic bullets at them. Lets be honest here the reason behind this rioting is because of drugs and loyalist paramilitaries. The ira funeral happened ages ago and covid regulations have been broken by both sides. Look at the celebrations of Rangers winning the league even.
Imo I think the effect of COVID regulations has been a major factor but in a completely different way. People are frustrated and tired of being in lockdown, I don't think it took much to get people out onto the street.
@@marcustrevor1883 blaming Covid-19 is always the easiest way. The problems are supported by DUP and other Unionist Groups and London doesn't care about NI. It's always starting like this and later on very bad thinks are happening. Anyway it's an internal affair of the UK and they should solve it and not blaming Covid-19 or the EU.
I certainly found it ironic that some of the unionists were complaining of being treated harsher, given all the evidence to the contrary. It honestly kinda reminds me of the “men are being silenced” fear in some political circles, just because women are speaking more equitably.
Here in Italy we used to have a comparable issue with the region of South Tyrol: despite being geographically in Italy, it used to be part of Austria and inhabited by Austrians. However, after it was annexed to Italy at the end of WWI, many Italians settled there, especially in bigger cities. Fascism tried to "italianize" all the population by force and, after the end of WWII, ethnic conflicts between German-speaking and Italian-speaking people (backed by the Italian government) started to escalate, with terrorist attacks to police and civilians and the creation of para-military groups.
How was all this solved? The Italian government gave special autonomy to the region, where nowdays everything is bi-lingual and each group must be proportionally represented in public offices. But the real solution was the EU and the Schengen agreement, that has made being Italian or Austrian citizens only a theoretical fact, as everyone has been able for years now to work and move freely across the border. The region used its money and resources wisely and has become the richest and best organized of the whole Italy.
People shouldn't underestimate that opening borders inside Europe isn't just for the sake of economic growth or even to "let some countries exploit others and steal their money", as some say. It's probably the only solution to make ethnic conflicts meaningless and to live in peace. Nationalist politicians can easily blame others for every issue, but if they win, if their values become mainstream again, we can only end up hurting each other as we've done for centuries.
An excellent comment. Give yourself a thumbs up.
@@Jay...777 Thanks, i did!
I forgot to mention that South Tyrol isn't the only issue concerning Italy solved this way, there is also the Slovenian border in the North-East, with ethinc Italians and Slovenians living on both sides of the border and a city (Gorizia) divided by it. They now have had their languages recognized by both countries and can move and work with no restrictions. I'm sure there are plenty of comparable cases all around Europe.
The funny thing is, Northern Ireland and Ireland already had most of that. Northern Ireland has autonomy, both sides are represented in the government, there is free movement of people between the UK and Ireland (even post-Brexit), and there used to be free movement of goods between Ireland and all parts of the UK. But the UK threw that last one away when it left the EU.
@@Psyk60 Everybody knew it was a big problem of Brexit. It was the very first thing the EU flashed as a problem when the referendum result came in. But the Tory's just ignored it. And now Boris is a windsoc - blowing whatever way the wind blows.
A good point but the issue is that unifying groups with greatly differing opinions into large multi ethnic blocs also raises tensions often in such a way to cause huge amounts of ethnic unrest when it collapses see the former yugoslavia as a good example.
Internationalism has its benefits but larger groups often lead to democracy developing flaws when minority groups end up getting ignored. This is a point people have leveled at the united kingdom between scotland england N ireland and wales and once you scale this up to a continent the problem only gets worse.
Pretty good representation of the facts considering how murky our politics can get over here, it doesn't surprise me a lot of people that live in the UK have no idea about any of this either currently or historically, its almost as if we aren't a united kingdom.
Honestly I have never felt that Northern Ireland is really part of the UK. It seems like a completely different culture and most people here don’t know what is going on there.
Ironically I feel we have more in common with the Republic of Ireland than Northern Ireland.
Most people over here seem to have no idea that loyalists and loyalist paramilitaries exist. Well at least young people anyway.
@@pragueuprising560 out of interest which part of the UK are you from? Being Northern Ireland it’s normally assumed that we are forgotten about mainly by the southern english, as much of the North have strong links to Ireland e.g. Liverpool or Glasgow
@@pragueuprising560 Same. I'm live in Louth and going into the north just feels like going into any other province.
The English don’t know the truth about their history because it always happens somewhere else.
As someone from NI this seems pretty impartial, kudos for that. I'll be linking to this so people understand.
I am from the Republic of Ireland I have to commend your fair and balanced analysis. All of what you have mentioned is correct and have to thank you for doing a unbiased video about highly complex issue on the Island of Ireland.
doing a historical video on the troubles in your style would actually be quite cool
Definately!
if it continues like this it might even be needed, seeing that most (young) people from the rest of the world don't even have a clue a history like the troubles even existed.
@@arnoudbeuting8813 I'm from Canada and I've read about it, but the conflict is still a bit hard to understand for someone who doesn't have a complete historical background of Ireland from the last 200 years or the perspective of people who live there. A lengthy explanatory video is definitely needed lol.
The troubles were pretty much antipodal to where I grew up in the 1980s, but still on the news all the time. I refer to them whenever I hear younger US Christians claiming their subreligions don't start wars with each other.
Problem is no matter what, the other side will always find something to say that they were made to look bad/biased against.
With that being said, the idea for a video isn't bad.
You need a reward for talking northern Ireland
I find it interesting that a lot of people from Northern Ireland are commenting that they didn't know what was going on or that this was even happening. Here in the Republic the rioting has been front page news for four days!
Wouldn't worry, you forgot about your people in the North when you signed that agreement and abandoned us.
@@JW-jd6sn Ah, you got me! I'm a time traveling Michael Collins. I thought I might get away with signing it, but you cunning UA-cam commenters saw right through my disguise.
@@Hadraedan96 ha. Sarcasm to hide the truth, were was the South during the troubles when Catholics didn't even have a vote, terrible living conditions and no jobs. Where would the South be if protestants came marching into Catholic areas which is being organised which would stir up and cause potential years of violence. Its about time the South grew a backbone, and began political pressing to help protect there so called people in the north
Yeah same I’m from the border (SA Louth border) and it’s been on the news for the last few days
It is all a formulaic pantomime, orchestrated, totally synthetic and happening in cycles. Seen it all before and we’ll see it all again. The covid lockdown helps to ignore it. Jeez we could really use a fair bit of black death!
I'm actually doing my dissertation on The Legacy of Paramilitaries in Northern Ireland, good to see more people taking an interest.
In that case: is religion still a relevant thing in this case?
(I get angry hearing the news here in belgium speaking of catholics and protestants. And then I see the same type of anger/youth riot, we see ANYWHERE...)
@@akamba12 Religion plays a role somewhat, mostly in informing political decisions, particularly in the Unionist side with the Evangelists and Free Presbyterians. However this youth violence I'd say is mostly due to disenfranchisement, the riots have mostly been occurring in poor loyalists areas where youth have little job opportunities or education. I also think frustrations from lockdown are playing a part with many seeing it as a bit of fun, and something to do. I am also of the opinion that the crackdown on Paramilitary gangs drug dealing plays a bigger part than people are letting on, I beleive this was the main cause of starting it, but now it's spiralled out of control and represents a wider grievance against the system in general.
However now, it's been made a political issue and there's no going back from that.
but anyway I'm getting of point, in general I'd say religion plays no part. People aren't fighting over theological issues, but identify issues and politics. Religion is just used as an identifier for the two traditions.
I do believe the political system of NI promotes sectarian politics which makes everything a bigger issue than it needs to be.
@@Ryan-qv1xs Ryan agree with the comment on violence coming from poor loyalist areas. It is the same with any large scale violence in cities. It stems from social class. The lack of “want” of an education is a growing problem in working class areas, with increasing glamorisation of drug dealing part of every day life. I’m from a working class area myself and see this first hand.
Take poorly educated youths, with a decreasing chance of success, and combine it with the religiously drilled in patriotic opinion of paramilitaries who are now heavily involved in drug dealing, and you get the ultimate recipe for disaster. It’s a serious serious issue for youth growing up.
Unfortunately with the way society works, and capitalism it is unlikely to change anytime soon. The only way for it to end for an individual growing up in these circumstances is to “break the chain” and push for a better life for himself/herself.
I have heard people comment that the violence is stemming from “selective policing” which only makes me believe more that there is a serious crackdown on drug dealing in these areas, and I wouldn’t be surprised to hear the paramilitaries endorsing the violence or even encouraging it to the youth.
@@hattin6800 well the republican groups like RAAD crack down on drug dealing enough themselves
@@hattin6800 but obviously you wouldn’t get that in loyalist communities
There is no solution that won't anger alot of people
Which is what basically everybody with a pinch of foresight said when brexit became a topic for the first time - but apparantly the small increase in national sovereignity by the UK was more important than the integrity of the union, so... Thanks Brexiteers?!?
@@QemeH even then not opting for brexit wouldve angered a lot of people who for one reason or another wanted to leave the EU
this was been just a complete mess from the start and UK politicians have not been up to the task
@@QemeH "Thanks Brexiteers?!?"
More specifically, thanks Tories. They could have chosen to remain in the CU. Instead they decided that their ideologically pure brexit was more important than peace in Ireland.
@@QemeH This is what the DUP voted for though? You can't say Brexiteers without including them too.
@@tonyb9735 are you missing your handouts from Europe, have you ever received government money from the British people, what no baby bonus, no unemployment benefits, no great N.h.s from the greatest medical center in the world, go join the e.u. and come as a asylum seeker, even more money for not being British, the majority voted out. Get over it.
Finally a return to normality here in Belfast!
I admire your ability to use gallows humour to cope with this crap, I just wish you didn't have to
@@alexpotts6520 it's the most northern Irish thing to do
Ye, it was getting weird to live so quietly....
Update: within the last few hours a bus has been hijacked and set on fire.
@@dngn____ With people still inside it? Jesus Christ...
"It's just worth noting that most of the violence seems to be committed by small groups of extremists. " - that should be... like... used more often when talking about events like that? Great job TLDR, your way of delivering news is refreshing and needed.
Got a good laugh at the pronunciation of 'Tullyally' - It's more like [Tull-ee-al-ee], and it's not a town, just a name given to an estate area. Because Northern Ireland is a much smaller country, we tend to literally just name the area we come from, even though that area might only be 200 houses in size. I guess to an outsider that could make a place seem much more significant than it is, but Tullyally really is just a little area of houses slightly outside the main L/Derry area.
It was a good attempt in fairness 😂 English people have never been good at pronouncing Irish names. He's lucky it was Tullyally, the anglicism and not Tulach Ealaidh, the native Gaeilge lol
Not a country
@@anthonyfox1436 wdym, the UK is a union of countries
Got whiplash from "a recent video on ongoing conflicts, I think you'll really enjoy this video"
Shared that whiplash. I saw the video and decided to leave it aside as 'too depressing for me right now'.
Very sensitively put, balanced and informative as usual. Well done guys
For anyone confused:
“Nationalist” refers to a person who identifies as Irish and claims descent from the ancient Gaelic inhabitants of Ireland.
“Republican” refers to a person who wants northern Ireland to rejoin the Republic of Ireland.
“Unionist” refers to a person who identifies as British and supports the continued existence of the United Kingdom.
“Loyalist” refers to a person who engages in or supports paramilitary Unionism.
“Unionist” and “Loyalist” used to be interchangeable and “Republican” used to refer to a person who supports paramilitary Nationalism. There is also a class difference between Unionists and Loyalists, Loyalists are usually poorer but Unionists don't belong to a certain class.
As one of your many Irish viewers I'd love to see more videos on ROI & NI! Great Vid!
As an Irish Nationalist from the north, I would say this is very well reported on just like all of your videos! The only small criticism I would say is using the union flag to represent us. It’s a divisive symbol here and although we are in the UK, a lot of people here don’t associate ourselves with that flag, and when you use the Scottish and Welsh flags to represent those nations, it’s a little unfair on us. Again, I understand fully we are in the UK, and you tend to use flags to represent counties in all your videos, but it is a very divisive issue here.
I wondered at that. Would a split uk/irish flag work? No-one is ever happy!
@@orlaoto5794 I’m actually not sure how to resolve it as no one here can even agree on a flag. I would identify with the Irish flag, and I would be happy with the both of them used in videos, not sure how others feel though!
Yeah listen up TLDR: we need our own fleg here.
Easier just to draw NI with shoes. (I'd buy it.)
Genuine question here: do you feel represented by the Northern Irish flag?
@@CrazyMonkey679 good question. Honestly no, not at all. It was used by the Unionist Stormont government from 1953-1973 and is a very British/Unionist symbol. It has a crown and a 6 pointed star on a St George’s cross so it a very British flag and wouldn’t represent the vast amount of people that live here. I identify solely with the Irish flag, it symbolises Catholic’s, Protestants and peace between us although I know some people don’t identify with it and feel it’s symbolism may have other meanings now. If there was a United Ireland a new flag may have to be used, who knows.
I feel we should clarify that these are loyalist riots. Yes they’re unionists but the term loyalists is more specific, as that refers to extreme unionists who are very prepared and rather willing to use violence to achieve their means. Similar distinction between nationalists (moderate) and republicans (extreme). Just something I picked up on, but don’t fret too much cause it takes a while to figure out. Great video though.
I though that was the distinction. What's the split on te other side republicans and nationalists? Which are the violent ones and which are the moderates?
@@DaDunge republicans are the violent ones. That’s why you what the Irish Republican Army, not the Irish Nationalist Army
Nope, what like political parties like fianna fail, aontu, Irsp? Republicans are not extreme, it's simply a political movement for the unity and independence of Ireland under a Republic, nothing intrinsic that is extreme about it.
@@ONeill01 Absolutely true
@@ONeill01 in the context of the south it’s not, given historical context of the past century. The troubles just fucked up everything though and the established definition that most people I’ve talked to is that in the context of Northern Ireland, republicanism is definitely leans at least somewhat more towards the extreme. Just my observations though, I know it’s a rather debated topic. Depends on on your perspective, I guess.
As someone from the border I appreciate your impartial stance here. Good coverage.
I live right beside Rathcoole where the riots are happening. So weird to know that I've been on those streets.
Thanks for covering this. It’s truly the biggest issue of Brexit and the state of the union currently. If things continue I can only see the situation getting much worse.
Ireland will be whole again soon. I just hope peacefully :/
@@ailinos Five-bellies Boris completely ignoring the situation. Boris has more important things to do, like standing next to the Union Flag and pulling daft faces.
@@ailinos it won’t happen. You don’t understand the hatred between the two.
personal interpretation here (if its different from yours thats fine) but i dont think the bobby storey funeral had much of a part to play in these riots, mainly because you would assume that these would have taken place sooner as opposed to more than 6 months down the line.
As for the south east Antrim UDA crackdown, im not an expert on drug rings in the greater belfast area (thankfully) so i imagine that point was valid.
Reason it could be about the funeral is that the inquiry into the funeral ended like a week ago as the police said that they wouldn't be prosecuting anyone over the funeral which really pissed off unionist politicians
It takes a while to plan these things. Petrol bombs don't exactly grow out of trees mate.
it's an excuse. SF were in the wrong, but using that as justification for unrest & destruction is vile & lazy.
Its is organised by uvf, following on from the meeting that the DUP had with the LCC. Its straight out of the Ian Paisley play book.
While many parties may feel upset, annoyed or even enraged at decisions taken by the DPP on who it decides to prosecute, does that give Arlene Foster, the so called "leader" of the assembly, the right to stamp her foot and DEMAND the resignation of the chief constable, simply because she was not happy with that decision?
I live about 10mins away from the border and I thought you handled that video really well, appreciate the research that went into it. I expected to roll my eyes at least once during this but nope, even learned a few things.
Nice! The video i was waiting for
Seems like one of those situations where the three somewhat conflicting explanations could all be correct. While the rioting was organised, it certainly doesn't seem overly unified and it may have had opportunistic actors involved in the violence. Unless all involved are identified, arrested and interviewed, all that can be said for certain is we just have merely a series of educated guesses (rather obviously).
While I agree I think the fact that Unionist leaders have both denounced and fuelled the violence in the same breath cannot be overlooked. This could end very quickly if community leaders wanted it to.
Sad to see violence return.
a very well done piece of news, thank you
I am from Belfast and this actually informed me more about what and why than anything else!!!!
I suppose it is impossible for me to understand the strength of feeling, as a complete outsider. However, I am often surprised by how little it can take to spark serious violence.
To put it into context, the 2 Irelands are divided over religious and ethnic lines and years of the IRA blowing up civilians and turning Ulster into a warzone because of their divinely mandated sense of manifest destiny has led to Northern Ireland being kinda irked at Southern Ireland and unwilling to join hands with them politically.
@@Bushflare aye that’s one way of showing yourself to be a biased unionist hahahaha
@@Bushflare totally fucking wrong
Hahaha yeah. I’m going to assume youre English. How would you feel if Scotland was doing everything it could, including killing people you know to make England part of Scotland? Not only that, but you were bullied growing up for being English and not Scottish and all the Scott’s would beat up your friends for looking English. Would u be slightly pissed off?
But you can’t see Scotland’s perspective, because you believe England is yours just as much as the nationalists and unionists believe Northern Ireland is theirs.
This was an analogy for both sides btw. Both nationalists and the unionists are willing to kill to make NI theirs. Both get bullied for their identity growing up which just increases the hate.
You and all the Tory Brexit politicians it would appear.
Brexit is a failure and its only just begun. This can only get worse.
these unionist don't want you checking their illegal cargo
It's kinda hard to have illegal cargo within the same market. (Unless you talk about things that are just illegal to own at all - in which case you don't need customs checks. E.g. drugs being transported from London to Glasgow don't cross a customs checkpoint, but the police can pick them off wherever they like.)
As it heads fpr the bandit country of South Armagh
Wow. Very informative without the backdrop of bias. Thank you.
18 to 25 year old male unemployed is at over 50 percent,,,, think that might play a part too,,,,
Ah, Brexit. The gift that keeps on giving.
Brexit was always going to be down fall it’s just chain of events
It did at least spare us the absolute shambles that was europes vaccine rollout
@@infernalcontraptions8648 I'd take the slow vaccine rollout any day over losing my FOM. Pandemic will end within a year, Brexit will keep fucking us for decades.
The vaccine rollout isn't eu's fault. What the european union lacks is a backbone and say "no" to vaccines being exported. All this "pacifism" is hurting us, since we give way more vaccines than we get
@@RodrigoroRex You mean that the EU supports a free market even in tough times? It would be hard to take the EU seriously if they behaved like the UK or US. Going forward, I don't know why any country would trust the US or UK to operate in good faith, which really won't help the UK in its global trade agreements.
Ulster Unionism has always been on the wrong side of history.
They accept Democracy when it suits them and threaten violence if the outcome of that democratic result doesn't go their way.
When the majority on the island of Ireland vowed for home rule, the Ulster-Unionists resisted an Irish parliament to be run by the Irish; even though Ireland was still in the UK.
The Ulster-Unionists bit off more then they could chew and a good chunk of Ireland (26 counties) left the kingdom because the Irish who also identified themselves as British in the North of Ireland wouldn't meet the Irish Republicans half way.
Partition happened because the UVF (A militant group that calls themselves the “Ulster Volunteer Force”) threatened a civil war within the UK.
The reason why they were threatening violence was because in 1918, Ireland had a national vote called “the Irish general election”. The majority of the Irish people voted for independence.
The minority in the North of Ireland who voted to remain in the UK got their wish.
The Irish people got cheated out of their Democracy and the island was partitioned.
The 26 Counties became what was known as the “irish free state” (later to be called the “Republic of Ireland” in 1949) and the North of Ireland had to rejoin the UK as a new entity known as “Northern Ireland” in 1922.
The founding fathers of Ireland (the first and original IRA) had no choice but to accept the 26 county Irish free state treaty.
Either they accepted it or the British empire would've blown Ireland off the map.
British Gunship Diplomacy from their empire forced Ireland to surrender.
Fast forward to today and you're seeing a repeat of history going in reverse.
In 2016 the UK had a national vote on the UK leaving the EU: i.e *Brexit*
The majority of the British people voted for independence
The minority in Northern Ireland who voted to remain in the EU got their wish.
The British people got cheated out of their Democracy and the Union has become partitioned.
The British government voted for the sea border because they had no choice.
Either accept the sea border (known as the Irish protocol) or risk diplomatic action from both the EU and USA.
Ireland has the backing from an Irish lobby in Congress (from both the Democrats and Republican parties) and an Irish-American president.
That's without 26 countries in the EU that's also backing up Ireland as well.
The UK had no choice but to surrender Northern Ireland to the EU.
It's also worth mentioning that the DUP voted for this protocol that has the UK partitioned.
Their shifting the blame, deflecting responsibility and meeting up with sectarian loyalist paramilitaries is stocking up all this tension. They're an absolute cancer to Northern Ireland.
"The British government voted for the sea border because they had no choice"
Not strictly true, they had the choice of whether to leave the CU and the SM, they knew the damage it would cause in Ireland when they decided to leave those groups but they decided that they wanted their "pure" brexit more than they wanted peace in Ireland.
Democracy? The ira literally threatened to go back to fighting if a hard border went up, there was an attempted bombing at one point as well. As for meeting with sectarians, the other side don't need to leave the house for that meeting just look in a mirror. I hate all this shit btw don't think I'm defending scumbags that you see in this vid. In my perfect world northern ireland would be independent from the uk and the roi.
on your very last paragraph, didn't the DUP abstain from that vote because of the NIP ? um, genuine question, not a rhetorical, I don't remember.
The real right/wrong side of history division in Northern Ireland is not between unionists and nationalists - it's between those who support peace above all, and those who tolerate violence as long as it's in their cause.
The legendary John Hume was an SDLP member, he wanted a united Ireland. He never got that in his lifetime but he got something even more valuable - the Good Friday Agreement. He was right to prefer a peaceful NI in Britain rather than a violent on in a united Ireland.
@@MrGavin2011 emphasis on “perfect world” because an independent NI would go about as well as Haiti.
Fair play a good accessment. I would add that it looks like its going to get worse as we head into the summer
As a Irishman your video explained it perfectly there was no bias in it at all.
"Read my lips: no border checks"
I fear you're going to get booted next election
@@guybrushthreepwood9071 Dude, I'm American. UK politics fills the void that GoT used to 😂
@@thepeff An american telling a brit that his politics are theater... Now I have seen everything :D
@@thepeff It was a 4 year drama saga (2015 pilot) that started to go really dry.
But now we have the Boris as pm spinoff like a fanfiction.
@@QemeH I guess that means you've never seen India 😂
Insane that the UK media has barely touched this.
Alas, doing so would only highlight what a shit show Brexit actually is. Hence, they don't cover it.
If it was nationalist it would be all over media.
Insane that people pretend this is true, when a quick Google search reveals that these stories have been in the media for days. It's not the media's fault that the average citizen is more interested in Kim Kardashian.
Meanwhile they spread the lies spread by the Bristol police
Watch the news? It’s literally being covered by the BBC
*Ireland demands a referendum now..!!!....*
Tell you what, you need a medal for bringing more people's eyes to what's happening here, folk just don't know what it's like here.
I literally had no idea of this, live in Wales too.
@Miguel Melchior this has been on mainstream news in the UK inc Wales,no one is trying to hide anything.
Same
The supply route of the UDA drug lords has messed up by a border in the Irish Sea.
the first I heard of it was from a German brexit commentater, & I'm in the UK with an Irish family, & this has been ongoing for a week already
@@tinmachine693 now it has, I doubt it was being actively hidden, but mainstream news in the UK was lagging far behind on covering this for whatever reason
I'm from carrickfergus and I didn't even think yous would have covered this, also I think the groups were mostly kids.
I'm from the Republic and was completely unaware of this
Really? It's been on RTÉ daily the last few days
@@ailinoshaven't really watched rte news over the past week or so. Never got a notification from the app about it and it didn't blow up on twitter until today
Like many I’m appalled by the British press. As with Covid they seem not to report or question anything that the government or health leaders might be uncomfortable with.
Yes they did. Check out The Guardian and The,Observer.
In and less than a minute without notifications? Yes.
very good video lad well done as an irish person i think you were fairly impartial. Just a quick note, i think if the sinn fein party said that they were going to meet with the IRA and INLA to discuss something then there would be international uproar. The unionist talk about one thing for sinn fein and another for everyone else but i think they need to ask themselves are they being a little hipocritical. by the way i completely disagree with what sinn fein did they broke covud guideliness and shouldnt have allowed that many mourners to arrive.
Agree. I think we need rid of the DUP and SF. Way too much agitation with them.
@@jkcreepingdeath Yes, no one to blame but ourselves.
Incredibly well reported story, as a Unionist I don’t often find such unbiased videos with accurately report our side of the story as well. Thanks.
I feel like this is the ultimate comment for people in Norther Ireland. Nobody feels their side is being given a voice and the story being told isn't the story of the people involved.
Yes because normally the stories have to be biased in order to paint unionists in a positive light.
When the bias is taken away it finally unveils the real bastards in your community, like this video has just done.
That seems troubling...
You can thank the DUP for all this telling there UVF UDA friends to take to the streets and do what ever it takes
There's literally no way for them to achieve their aims. They've been locked into a no-win situation since 1998, and seemingly still don't realize it.
Some one has to speak up, our Belfast city hall can't fly a union flag as it offended republicans , it is still as far as I know part of the United kingdom, your day will come but not in my life time, peace to all.
@@samuelcampbell249 Speaking up is one thing, the problem is when people choose to say stupid, harmful bullshit.
Violence is literally the worst option for unionist, loyalists, and the like. It would paint them as the aggressors in a way that was obfuscated during the last fight, because stalwart nationalists and the ilk know they can achieve a united Ireland by demographic means as long as they're patient - violence is no longer the optimal path, the UK government gave them a viable alternative in 98.
So the tit-for-tat that paints all sides as belligerent - that unionists would be counting on with a return to violence - may not occur enough to cultivate the sectarian zero-sum thinking of decades past.
Additionally, the paramilitary unionists are unlikely to have enough manpower and material to keep up an armed campaign for the duration of time required to secure some bargaining power - the entire point of such an exercise.
Even if things DO descend back into the tit-for-tat ways, Unionists are likely to be biting off more than they can chew - population change and institutional reforms are among the reasons why militant unionist types would find a much more difficult environment to wage such a campaign and pulling out of the agreement which afforded you SOME form of assured protection as a cultural group so you can engage in a Quixotic military campaign that can't achieve any real military or political goals, while also in the process alienating not only the REST of the population of your polity but also likely alienating the very government at the helm of the nation with which you desire stronger ties in the first place - is an incredibly self-destructive move to advocate so vociferously.
I sincerely hope the gameplan isn't causing a ruckus and then counting on the powers that be to send the military in to keep order, thus facilitating a de facto state of occupation, and in effect 'more integration with the United Kingdom proper' - because counting on the government of the United Kingdom to act in their best interest is a mistake that loyalists and unionists of all stripes really should've learned to stop making by now.
@@brandonp3455 The brits should never of divided it in first place
@@samuelcampbell249 You people are still salty over a flag none of you noticed before it was gone? LOL.
The Troubles are coming back.
Thanks, Brexiteers, hope you enjoy your 'independence'.
Don’t hurt your back with that reach buddy.
We do. The EU could have just done what was best for everybody and allowed both Irelands to have the borders they wanted and compromised with a sea-trade border between Ireland and the EU but no, they wouldn't compromise on their great project even for the safety of citizens in their host nations... which is precisely the sort of attitude that led to the UK leaving to begin with.
Why should ROI lose its EU single market acres because of a UK decision to leave? Ridiculous comment sorry man
@@Bushflare so cancel the european Union like the british one is cancelled now? The uk wanted to leave. Irelqnd doesn't. There is no reason for ireland to leave the customs Union just because the uk did.
@@darrencorr5903
Because sometimes we need to compromise between preserving economic access and preserving people's lives?
I'm sorry but the Good Friday Agreement is more important to the peoples of Ireland than the EU's trading bloc and that the EU refuses to see that is as big a condemnation of it as what they did to Greece.
Your channels are actually Gods gift
Gday mate ! Thankyou! I live in Australia and would not know whats happening up in the UK if it was not for your videos!. Thankyou ever so much you brilliant people. Take care and stay safe 🖖✅💚💙🌏💜🌼🌞
Is it just me, or are things getting crazier out there?
who could have guessed that weakening the "Good Friday Agreement" could cause the return of the "The Troubles"/s
Well, this is cheerful watching on a Friday bloody morning...
Well explained. And it looks like a far more serious issue is brewing.
The DUP: "London's broken promises and self-interested picking and choosing over borders and self-government are a betrayal of the people of Ulster!"
Sinn Féin: "Wait, hang on... which side are we on again? Also, is it just us, or is marching season wile early this year?"
Makes you wonder if they wouldn't actually be happier in a reunified Ireland than clinging to a fickle United Kingdom that causes them to oscillate their disdain on a weekly (even daily) basis.
It reminds me of of a toxic, dysfunctional relationship "I hate you, don't ever leave me."
@@brandonp3455 They even brought a unit in to northern to shoot and kill protestants and catholics in the 70s to heighten tensions in there own words in a bbc documentary type in bbc mfr northern ireland
That is the reason I left the country 1977 ! Everything is better than violence 🥴
it is not much different to a "fiery but mostly peaceful" BLM demonstration
@@nullvoid564 it really wasn't. No one was walking around in the US creating paramilitary checkpoints or trying to assassinate government officials or prime ministers.
@@Aureus282 well people were trying to assasinate and kidnap government officials and Vice Presidents...but spoiler alert, it was not BLM but MAGA fascists.
@@skepticmonkey6923 Keyword, trying. Only threats, nothing serious. No one left a car bomb outside the White House or blew up a hotel the President was staying in?
The USA sent guns and explosive devices to the (ira) causing many people on both sides of the troubles to die, read the history of the conflict, British government, Irish government, American interference in our problems didn't help, America has never defeated any foreign enemy, they only joined the second world war after being sucker punched by the Japanese, they were warned that the attack was coming but ignored it, look at America now, enough said.
Anything to do with NI is controversial, *consitently represents the whole of NI with the union flag. Just make it a neutral colour, we dont officially have a flag.
Thats y there is a tri colour
@James Calvin northern ireland is not in Britain tho its in the UK.
@James Calvin falklan Islands not joined onto another state tho
The DUP keep using loyalist dog whistles in interviews. They definitely played their part in all of this.
The more bitter they are, the more they retain there political support base
And they call for the chief constable to resign over a six month old funeral which is just going to egg on the loyalist rioters to attack the police, whilst at the same time they condemn the violence (for PR purposes), which is supporting their Brexit politics over the NI protocol for which they have no alternative. Meanwhile the most useless Prime Minister we have ever had is probably hiding in a fridge - when he's responsible for most of the trouble.
They haven't gone away you know.🙄
@Red Rover I could go to any corner of Belfast and buy drugs. Are they all loyalist drugs?
@Red Rover Tripe lad. Your OPINION is not fact, unless you can back your claims of course. So it's now a policy for Rep. paramilitaries to allow loyalist drugs to be sold in their areas? 😂
No-one could have seen this coming!
Last time I was this early
Ireland was still independent
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Lol
Ard-Rí Ua Briain is that you?
Last time I was this early my family wasn't American we were Ulster.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough nobody asked
Ah cool, I wasn’t alive to see this one live the first time, maybe part 2 will be just as “sightly”?
I'm in Australia and it wasn't reported at all. I grew up during the troubles in England and have worried what effect Brexit would have.
To be fair it is somewhat understandable that it hasn't been reported in Australia. You do live on the other side of the world.
@@alexpotts6520 🤣🤣🤣🤣 well said.
It’s not Brexit causing the trouble. It’s the NI Protocol. The NI Protocol puts a border within the UK which is unacceptable to Unionists and UK citizens. This was done to appease the EU and Irish Republicans. The UK doesn’t want a border on the island of Ireland or the Irish Sea. Because this would upset Republics and Irish citizens. There doesn’t need to be a border ANYWHERE in our isles. All of these checks could be done in the English Channel. The EU doesn’t want that because then there would be peace in Northern Ireland and Brexit would be a success. The EU doesn’t want Brexit to be a success because Denmark, Italy and the Netherlands are all watching to see how Brexit goes so they can also leave. The EU is shitting itself so it’s trying to create trouble to distract its citizens from itself. The UK should be pilling money into every separatist organisation and party in the EU to bring the whole thing down. The EU can’t fight al of its members are once.
@@noodlyappendage6729 I've yet to hear UK citizens complain about it tbh
@@malsmith1618 I am a UK citizen. What do you think Ben Habib is? A citizen of Antarctica?
Great video sir👌
When something is happening in the UK, I automatically go to TLDR first before anything. BBC is an unreliable source! THANK YOU GUYS
The BBC does not report anything negative about the UK
@@athletemusician8098 Yeah I know, but I simply stated that I firstly rely on information that TLDR News provides before the BBC.
Wow the quickest i have been to a TLDR video.
*shocked* I definitely didn't see this coming
must say, good news, and very unbiased. Instead of choosing what is true and what is not, you simply give all perspectives. Very good video, praise from Ireland
Seriously why can't other news channels explain the situation like you? They think the audience will leave if there is any complex thought...
the explanation for being upset about the Northern Ireland Protocol makes the most sense. But that is also showing my bias that I expect Brexit could bring back the troubles
Not sure it's a bias when it's always been a really clear possible (and likely) outcome. I have the same bias, because (probably like you) I've watched progress on our Brexit screw-up from before the referendum and back then, the NI borders were the elephant in the room that none of the politicians wanted to acknowledge. :(
@@catsandcrafts171 I second that from the outside. Every UK negotiating team did their hardest to not adress "the NI problem", even though most of the EU constantly reminded them that it needed to be solved. And even when it was put into contrect form in the end, it's still a wishy-waschy wibbly-wobbly temporary "solution" that doesn't solve anything. And that is because there are three things the UK wants:
*(1) No borders inside the UK*
*(2) No borders inside the island of Ireland* (this is the Good Friday Agreement)
*(3) UK exits the EU while Ireland stays*
*You can only choose two. GO!*
@@QemeH To be fair, I suspect that the UK would actually like Ireland to join them and take the genius move of leaving the EU, but those Irish are too willing to give up their sovereignty and bow to an unelected master in the EU (that the Irish directly or indirectly helped elect), and not nearly economically astute enough to leave (if Britain can benefit from being a dynamic island without EU restrictions, think of what Ireland could do).
The truth is that the UK does its best to not think about Ireland or Northern Ireland. They never understood the problems, the implications of the GFA and never intended to honour their agreements to it and the people of Northern Ireland. As bad as the Irish government were about Northern Ireland, at least it occupied their minds somewhat.
@@nastysimon Probably the UK would like Ireland to leave the EU, if only to solve the GFA problem without having to do anything themselves, yeah. But that's not for the UK to decide. They have the three "wants" I detailed and can choose two of them...
@@nastysimon I have a problem with the EU but why should Ireland have to leave the EU to rectify age old problems caused by Britain in Ireland?
Why have I not heard this on the news?
Excellent unbiased documentary !
Very interesting this is the first I’ve heard about this..., need to do some research as the troubles happened when I was a baby but I hope that no one is in danger. Protesting is important but violence begets violence :-/ stay safe
Respect, my dude. The last thing either Ireland needs is more women and kids immolated in the streets over sectarian violence and manifest destiny.
It's not only interesting it's deliberate.
Brexit must be a success, at all costs to your freedom.
@tammy Jerkchiicken Just a little tip , you can of course use your own powers of discernment, put at every turn the British will imbue themselves with the label of ‘ pig in the middle ‘ or ‘ honest broker’ this is a nonsense.
Good luck with the research, you'll need it as you'll be hard pressed to find unbiased sources.
@@nastysimon I am trying to cast a wide net without being to passive. And avoiding Twitter ( for my mental health x/ )
I noticed that the 7 o’clock new is all fear and sensationalism.
I don’t mind bias as long as I start from a point for knowing if that makes sense?
DUP blaming anybody and everybody rather than taking responsibility, what's new?
Love to see how this will affect the future of Ireland, Northern Ireland and the UK
'Right lads we have to set a good example while rioting, NO MORE THAN 30 PEOPLE PER PETROL BOMBING TEAM'
You didn't put the clip of the guy lighting himself on fire with a petrol bomb 😭
while funny I did see one quite wise Irishman say that spreading that one about is a childish thing that may incite more violence by poking fun at already violent people so should be avoided by anybody the least bit responsible
It's also called a Molotov Cocktail
There one of someone throwing a molotov at a bus. Not the police mind you. A bus with normal people on it.
@@Marcusjnmc im not Irish so that's no good to me.
@@Cjnw we call it petrol bomb in Northern Ireland.
First time ive seen a tldr and been more confused than when i started 😅. That said everyone sort of expected things to kick off so guess we're going to get what we voted for
Such brave and peaceful freedom fighters ! This is truly a beautiful sight to behold ! Absolutely wonderful !
United Ireland free Scotland and Wales 🏴🇮🇪🏴
Ridiculous, sad thing is the unrest amd damage they do to their own areas.