I like how you had a problem, you tried a new approach, you had another problem, and tried a now approach, and how you learnt from that. The final solution looks excellent and very very good. Thanks for sharing this experience without cutting out those parts!
...I think what I liked about your setup is how you are saving floor space by storing the planer beneath the workbench. I too have a small workshop & the Dewalt DW735X is on my wish list. Currently I am exploring different ideas on chip & dust collection. Your design is sound, once you worked it out... I will most likely be putting my planer on the Dewalt DW7350 mobile stand & roll it into a corner when not in use. I will make my own dust/chip collector using a plastic 40 gal. waste container & modifying a plywood top to accept a 4" hose & make a vent on the opposite side. The key is to keep it simple but functional, hopefully. I use a Rigid 6.5 HP shop vac for my Delta table saw with a 2.5" dust port... The thickness planer will absolutely get its own chip/dust collection & will not require any suction if done correctly. Great post, thanks... :-)
I'm glad to see that someone else experienced the same thing I did with trying to manage the dust on that planer! I wasted a ton of time trying to build a cart/box to collect the chips. I got basically the same results you did, which I was not satisfied with. Plus the box leaked air out of every small crack it could find. I tried sealing it with caulk and foam, but around the doors I still had too much air and fine dust escaping. I finally just decided to hook the planer right up to my dust collector and run it without the dust collector turned on. Works MUCH better. My lungs are thanking me :-). The chip ejector on the Dewalt is SO powerful, in my opinion its just too powerful to effectively collect the chips. That seems strange to say, but its true IMO. Great video!
+MWA Woodworks dust collector is by far a better setup because you get the filter. I only have one small dust collector at my table saw which is not plumped to the side shop where the planer is. This solution works well for me because I hardly ever use the planer and this keeps it out of the way and keeps me from blowing the chips all over shop like what I did before. Thanks for watching Ryan
Great build! I have the same planer, and took the lazy man's approach to chip collection. My planer is on a cart with a flip top, so the planer/cart will roll under my bench when it's flipped down (no lifting - I'm not as young as you). When I plane, I use 4" rigid PVC pipe to direct the chips into my Rubbermaid trash can. I use a 3'X3' piece of non-woven geotextile bungied over the top of the trash can to act as a filter. It works great, and when I'm done the chips are already in the garbage can :-)
I just recently built something similar to this myself. I've got an infeed and outfeed that are on hinges and swing down outta the way when not in use. it's a 2 chamber system that catches most of the chips in the first one and exhausts out under the infeed through a filter. Great design buddy, I really enjoy your videos.
Nice video and great perseverance. I have the same planer and have made several collection setups (2 by John Heisz, Jay Bates etc.). They worked well, but always produced some side issue... emptying, taking up space etc. I ended up with Jay Bate's and David Picciuto's originals - a pillow case! Just attached to the end of an extension hose (from the planer exhaust) and it works like a charm. Easy on/off (if needed), easy to keep out of the way and easy empting. $1 from the thrift store!
Vertical V-shaped baffles(like angle iron stood on end) of progressive height(2" tall through 2" shorter than the interior) mounted to both the main compartments floor and ceiling would greatly reduce your blow by.
Two Home Depot buckets on top of each other (one upside down) with a Thien baffle between them and hose going in from side of top bucket to create a cyclone affect works much better. Exhaust is through the top (bottom of upside down bucket). I hook it up to my shop vac to let its filter keeps fine dust from exhaust. When not inI use you could just take the buckets apart and stack under your bench.
Hey it works. You didn't have pay some company a ton of money and it fits under your bench. Great job at problem solving. When you get famous you can pay someone to solve the problems. Until then...it works
Ryan, you might benefit from another strip of the foam vertically on the edge of the baffle. Looks like there's an air path from the big compartment straight to the windowed exit especially when the air blows increasing the internal pressure and that pushes the middle of the removable board out a bit.
Hey Ryan, this was a very very inspiring video, the improv and problem-solving, I think, is very refreshing and very well conducted. you've shown talent at designing and building before (like the Thein baffle if I remember right) but I find it particularly thought-provoking to see you sequentially zero in on the "good enough" solution. I see some YT niche there, at least one that fits my appetite, as I consider YT the main culprit in metamorphasizing my brain from "pretty scared of trying anything DIY" to "well I guess i could try this or that". Anyway, thanks for sharing and Keep on trucking ! (from France)
In this type of system, what actually causes the chips to fall out of the air stream is the air stream slowing down, so the chips are no longer entrained. That's why it's getting caught in the corners and stuff. I think your best bet is just more volume, unfortunately (if you wanted to improve it, at least). Or maybe a bunch more baffles, as the air against the wall of each baffle is essentially not moving.
4th time is a charm :)... After thinking about it a bit, I wonder if it would have been better to put the vent on top, so the dust would have to contend with gravity as well. Either way, good job, glad you got it working!
GREAT project Ryan. Way to stick with a problem and get it solved. Looked like you had a bit of Matthias W, Jay B and Steve R working in your head. If airflow becomes a problem, maybe another screen on the side might help. Personally, I would just get a dustpan and empty in on the floor rather than lifting the planer.
Thanks for being honest enough to show what didn't work, and the evolution of the project. I'm not a fan of the background music - it's a little too loud. I like the lift-and-drag roller idea - that's worth stealing.
Expanding on the screen on the top idea. How about a couple of 6” PVC stacks about 12 “ tall (or shorter) with screen caps. It would be more difficult for the dust to swirl in the stack and gravity would be your friend. Just a thought.
would an old dust sheet made into a large bag work better for collection and disposal of planner shavings? I like your well made video / design and problem solving process.
Ryan, that is some impressive problem solving. You worked the problem until it worked. But it still looks like way too much effort to me - especially having to lug that planer off it for emptying. I was looking at your shop at the 5:49 mark in the video and I wonder if you have considered swapping the location of the planer with the location of that wood storage cart.. Most of that wood looks like it would easily slip under the bench. Why not build some low wood storage carts (or shelves) and put the wood under the bench. Then you can put the planer over where that cart is now and have a taller planer cart. (I have back issues so anything to avoid all that bending and lifting!)
+Wordsnwood (Art Mulder) thanks! Well for me, I just don't use the planer enough to dedicate floor space to it. 99% of my projects are made from plywood and if I look back in the last year, I bet I wouldn't of filled the container yet. Lifting it off isn't a big beal considering I use to have to lift it every time I used it before I made the cabinet. Oh and space your talking about is reserved for a full lumber rack, watch for that video;) Thanks for watching Ryan
I have similar problem when I make table saw dust box. For planer I just use Toro blower bag that has 4" import thus a direct fit, the key is we need larger area and density material to allow air out while keep dust in, the window screen is no good.
Very nice problem solving! It looks great. I was thinking of some overkill solutions but for sure this is quite simple and does the job pretty well so why bother on complicating it a lot for a 4% more of efficiency :D you got to the spot!
+jocmarti yeah I can see how this wouldn't be good for most people but one thing I forgot to mention is I hardly ever use the planer, 99% of my projects are out of plywood so this setup is really not a big beal for me at all. Thanks for watching Ryan
+jocmarti yeah I can see how this wouldn't be good for most people but one thing I forgot to mention is I hardly ever use the planer, 99% of my projects are out of plywood so this setup is really not a big beal for me at all. Thanks for watching Ryan
I see the wood shavings stayed in the cabinet, but what about the saw dust? How good or bad is it? I have been in need of something similar to what you built.
I get why you built it with the low profile for storage when you’re jot using it. If storage was not an issue, do you think if you built it bigger you would have the same problem? I'm wondering if a larger collection void would help to offset the high volume of air pushed around by the blower. Or at that point would you just hook up your Dust vac and not worry about it?Anyway, I enjoy your vids. Thanks.
+Jeff Forbes John hiesz has a large one that seems to work well. After I posted this video I saw a video made by make something that just used a filter bag which also seems to be a good option. Thanks for watching Ryan
How much is that screen doing? Seems like you're blasting all the small, dangerous particles into the air. Maybe you could find a HEPA filter to attach to that wind screen?
Great video! Definitely going to make me one tomorrow 😊 did you try putting a strip of the foam/rubber tape between the removable lid and the baffle? It looked like some of the dust might have snuck in through there.
+FXRPIONEER yes, a few minor negatives about the saw but I still recommend it because you really can't get another cabinet table saw with cast iron top for that kind of money. Thanks for watching Ryab
It seems that a pouch made of material would have done the job : it could be put in the box for easier hacking if needed. Then again, thanx for posting.
Good try however I think you over engineered this one. Try using a powertec dust filter bag as it works fantastic since this planer has a built in blower exhaust. Make an extension of the existing black dust port with pvc. so it will be out of the way and slightly off to the side. I use mine every day and for $20 it works awesome.
maybe, use some 4" pvc with mini holes drilled in it to pass air to the secondary chamber(cap the end in the primary chamber) drill holes small enough with plenty of holes might do the trick:>)
Why not make a dust separator like Mathias Wandels design and have your chips feed in the side and the screen on the top exit hole. Takes care of your small space, chip collection, easy empty and little to no dust
You posted this in March of 2016, it is now December 2018.....what kind of set up are you using now after more than two and a half years? I'm thinking you've graduated to a better collection system...yes.
Actually I still use this set up. Besides being cumbersome to empty, it works really well. I like how the whole set up fits under my workbench as well. If you use your planner alot it my get to annoying to empty but for lite use, it works well.
Ryan, great effort but you need think about what you are trying to achieve here. All any set up like this will achieve is basic chip collection. You are not capturing any of the harmful dust particles that are invisible to the eye. This system is just pumping the harmful dust back into the air for you to breathe, and it is not even capturing the chips that effectively. Really, just hook up a vac straight to the planer. It wont capture the fine dust either, but it will work better as a chip collector....and way simpler for you. Google Bill Pentz and read up on dust collection, you only have one set one lungs.
I like how you had a problem, you tried a new approach, you had another problem, and tried a now approach, and how you learnt from that. The final solution looks excellent and very very good. Thanks for sharing this experience without cutting out those parts!
+Bruno Sacomani thanks for watching:)
...I think what I liked about your setup is how you are saving floor space by storing the planer beneath the workbench. I too have a small workshop & the Dewalt DW735X is on my wish list. Currently I am exploring different ideas on chip & dust collection. Your design is sound, once you worked it out... I will most likely be putting my planer on the Dewalt DW7350 mobile stand & roll it into a corner when not in use. I will make my own dust/chip collector using a plastic 40 gal. waste container & modifying a plywood top to accept a 4" hose & make a vent on the opposite side. The key is to keep it simple but functional, hopefully. I use a Rigid 6.5 HP shop vac for my Delta table saw with a 2.5" dust port... The thickness planer will absolutely get its own chip/dust collection & will not require any suction if done correctly. Great post, thanks... :-)
I'm glad to see that someone else experienced the same thing I did with trying to manage the dust on that planer! I wasted a ton of time trying to build a cart/box to collect the chips. I got basically the same results you did, which I was not satisfied with. Plus the box leaked air out of every small crack it could find. I tried sealing it with caulk and foam, but around the doors I still had too much air and fine dust escaping. I finally just decided to hook the planer right up to my dust collector and run it without the dust collector turned on. Works MUCH better. My lungs are thanking me :-).
The chip ejector on the Dewalt is SO powerful, in my opinion its just too powerful to effectively collect the chips. That seems strange to say, but its true IMO.
Great video!
+MWA Woodworks dust collector is by far a better setup because you get the filter. I only have one small dust collector at my table saw which is not plumped to the side shop where the planer is. This solution works well for me because I hardly ever use the planer and this keeps it out of the way and keeps me from blowing the chips all over shop like what I did before.
Thanks for watching
Ryan
Great build! I have the same planer, and took the lazy man's approach to chip collection. My planer is on a cart with a flip top, so the planer/cart will roll under my bench when it's flipped down (no lifting - I'm not as young as you). When I plane, I use 4" rigid PVC pipe to direct the chips into my Rubbermaid trash can. I use a 3'X3' piece of non-woven geotextile bungied over the top of the trash can to act as a filter. It works great, and when I'm done the chips are already in the garbage can :-)
+Brian Taylor nice! I like to complicate thing;)
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I just recently built something similar to this myself. I've got an infeed and outfeed that are on hinges and swing down outta the way when not in use. it's a 2 chamber system that catches most of the chips in the first one and exhausts out under the infeed through a filter. Great design buddy, I really enjoy your videos.
Nice video and great perseverance. I have the same planer and have made several collection setups (2 by John Heisz, Jay Bates etc.). They worked well, but always produced some side issue... emptying, taking up space etc. I ended up with Jay Bate's and David Picciuto's originals - a pillow case! Just attached to the end of an extension hose (from the planer exhaust) and it works like a charm. Easy on/off (if needed), easy to keep out of the way and easy empting. $1 from the thrift store!
I just picked up this same planer on cragslist for $300 have been kicking around options for managing the dust. Great video.
Excellent Job. I admire your problem solving skills. I like the music too. Thanks for posting the build.
Vertical V-shaped baffles(like angle iron stood on end) of progressive height(2" tall through 2" shorter than the interior) mounted to both the main compartments floor and ceiling would greatly reduce your blow by.
The v portion pointing to rewards the exit path so the v's interior can catch chips/shavings.
Awesome idea. It was nice to see your process from the first concept to your last.
love seeing all the attempts! great work! glad it worked out out as well as it did! Rock on!
+Matt Diresta thanks Matt!
Two Home Depot buckets on top of each other (one upside down) with a Thien baffle between them and hose going in from side of top bucket to create a cyclone affect works much better. Exhaust is through the top (bottom of upside down bucket). I hook it up to my shop vac to let its filter keeps fine dust from exhaust. When not inI use you could just take the buckets apart and stack under your bench.
Hey it works. You didn't have pay some company a ton of money and it fits under your bench. Great job at problem solving. When you get famous you can pay someone to solve the problems. Until then...it works
Ryan, you might benefit from another strip of the foam vertically on the edge of the baffle. Looks like there's an air path from the big compartment straight to the windowed exit especially when the air blows increasing the internal pressure and that pushes the middle of the removable board out a bit.
+sachae321 your right! Not sure how I missed that
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Ryan
Nice. I gotta make something like this. And man, you make lifting that machine look like a piece of cake!
+FastEasySmartTOOL thank you! I've had lots of practice;)
Hey Ryan, this was a very very inspiring video, the improv and problem-solving, I think, is very refreshing and very well conducted. you've shown talent at designing and building before (like the Thein baffle if I remember right) but I find it particularly thought-provoking to see you sequentially zero in on the "good enough" solution. I see some YT niche there, at least one that fits my appetite, as I consider YT the main culprit in metamorphasizing my brain from "pretty scared of trying anything DIY" to "well I guess i could try this or that".
Anyway, thanks for sharing and
Keep on trucking ! (from France)
+MakeFix thank you very much for the kind words! It really does mean a lot:)
In this type of system, what actually causes the chips to fall out of the air stream is the air stream slowing down, so the chips are no longer entrained. That's why it's getting caught in the corners and stuff. I think your best bet is just more volume, unfortunately (if you wanted to improve it, at least). Or maybe a bunch more baffles, as the air against the wall of each baffle is essentially not moving.
+Cole Hudson I agree, but I think it will be good enough for how much I use the planer.
4th time is a charm :)... After thinking about it a bit, I wonder if it would have been better to put the vent on top, so the dust would have to contend with gravity as well. Either way, good job, glad you got it working!
+Live Free and DIY I though about that right after I posted the video too, would be way better:)
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GREAT project Ryan. Way to stick with a problem and get it solved. Looked like you had a bit of Matthias W, Jay B and Steve R working in your head.
If airflow becomes a problem, maybe another screen on the side might help. Personally, I would just get a dustpan and empty in on the floor rather than lifting the planer.
+Sebastopolmark thanks! before I made the cabinet, I had to lift the planer every time I used the planer so this is a step up;)
Great trial. Square objects are hard to make into DC units. I like the casters!
+Glass Impressions I found that the hard way;)
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I have this planer...almost 100lbs...can't imagine having to lift it off there every time to empty chips. Definitely a cool concept though!
+Dan Prudlow before this cabinet, I had to lift every time I wanted to use it, this is a step up for me:)
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+Shop built I hear ya...mine currently sits on top of the box it came it...still trying to decide what kind of cart/stand to build...so many options!
i love the honesty
Thanks for being honest enough to show what didn't work, and the evolution of the project. I'm not a fan of the background music - it's a little too loud. I like the lift-and-drag roller idea - that's worth stealing.
Great idea I have the same planer. So this is getting me thinking of some ideas to do with my planer.
+The Ox In The Shop thank you:)
Expanding on the screen on the top idea. How about a couple of 6” PVC stacks about 12 “ tall (or shorter) with screen caps. It would be more difficult for the dust to swirl in the stack and gravity would be your friend. Just a thought.
Neat idea, thanks for showing us your thought process.
+SouthernGinger thanks for watching!
would an old dust sheet made into a large bag work better for collection and disposal of planner shavings? I like your well made video / design and problem solving process.
Ryan, that is some impressive problem solving. You worked the problem until it worked.
But it still looks like way too much effort to me - especially having to lug that planer off it for emptying. I was looking at your shop at the 5:49 mark in the video and I wonder if you have considered swapping the location of the planer with the location of that wood storage cart.. Most of that wood looks like it would easily slip under the bench. Why not build some low wood storage carts (or shelves) and put the wood under the bench. Then you can put the planer over where that cart is now and have a taller planer cart. (I have back issues so anything to avoid all that bending and lifting!)
+Wordsnwood (Art Mulder) thanks! Well for me, I just don't use the planer enough to dedicate floor space to it. 99% of my projects are made from plywood and if I look back in the last year, I bet I wouldn't of filled the container yet. Lifting it off isn't a big beal considering I use to have to lift it every time I used it before I made the cabinet. Oh and space your talking about is reserved for a full lumber rack, watch for that video;)
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Ryan
+Shop built Hard to argue with more lumber! ;-)
Very nice solution.
+Humus Workshop thank you!
Maybe if that vent was on the top, gravity would assist in keeping it clear?
+Darnley Bynoe I thought about this right after I posted the video. It would be definitely better.
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+Darnley Bynoe it wont help. I tried EVERYTHING with my box, to no avail. that chip ejector/blower is way too powerful for its own good.
Or a spiral on the ceiling of the cabinet with a top exit to act like a dusty deputy.
I think if you look at other systems they all use gravity to get the chips down but exit the air upward.
I have similar problem when I make table saw dust box. For planer I just use Toro blower bag that has 4" import thus a direct fit, the key is we need larger area and density material to allow air out while keep dust in, the window screen is no good.
Should have said - awesome project and explanation of thought processes too.
+sachae321 thank you!
Very cool project!!!
+R Tavares thank you!
Nice job Ryan. That's using your noggen!
+Mike Kapotsy thanks mike!
I have one of these that needs dust collection. I will try this out.
+Mr Woodworker No.1 if you have the room, there are lots of options out there for a full size stand.
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Ryan
+Mr Woodworker No.1 if you have the room, there are lots of options out there for a full size stand.
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Ryan
I would try to reduce the blockage of the output screen by moving it to the top of the box right next to the planer
+Mark Nylund yeah, thought of that after, top would be way better
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Very nice problem solving! It looks great. I was thinking of some overkill solutions but for sure this is quite simple and does the job pretty well so why bother on complicating it a lot for a 4% more of efficiency :D you got to the spot!
+Cactus! workshop for sure, I really don't use it enough to get to fussy;)
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Cool project. Have you thought about baffling the input from the planer?
That whole setup would drive me insane, but I understand you've got to work with what you have.
+jocmarti yeah I can see how this wouldn't be good for most people but one thing I forgot to mention is I hardly ever use the planer, 99% of my projects are out of plywood so this setup is really not a big beal for me at all.
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Ryan
+jocmarti yeah I can see how this wouldn't be good for most people but one thing I forgot to mention is I hardly ever use the planer, 99% of my projects are out of plywood so this setup is really not a big beal for me at all.
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Ryan
That test piece of wood was getting pretty thin. Hope you can use if for something. Great video as always Ryan.
+Saw Dust Maker might be tricky to find a use for thoughs pieces....
I see the wood shavings stayed in the cabinet, but what about the saw dust? How good or bad is it? I have been in need of something similar to what you built.
I get why you built it with the low profile for storage when you’re jot using it.
If storage was not an issue, do you think if you built it bigger you would have the same problem? I'm wondering if a larger collection void would help to offset the high volume of air pushed around by the blower.
Or at that point would you just hook up your Dust vac and not worry about it?Anyway, I enjoy your vids. Thanks.
+Jeff Forbes John hiesz has a large one that seems to work well. After I posted this video I saw a video made by make something that just used a filter bag which also seems to be a good option.
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Ryan
How much is that screen doing? Seems like you're blasting all the small, dangerous particles into the air. Maybe you could find a HEPA filter to attach to that wind screen?
Great idea. Thanks for sharing.
+Waylight Creations thank you!
Great video! Definitely going to make me one tomorrow 😊 did you try putting a strip of the foam/rubber tape between the removable lid and the baffle? It looked like some of the dust might have snuck in through there.
Cool concept.
+Bruce A. Ulrich thanks!
Sweet Build! I love the design! odd question. what temp are your lights?
+Wood By Wright thank you! I use the 6500k
I saw that table saw on the home depot website. How do you like it? Sturdy enough?
+FXRPIONEER yes, a few minor negatives about the saw but I still recommend it because you really can't get another cabinet table saw with cast iron top for that kind of money.
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for emptying: what if u had a way to plug the screen and then hooked up dust collection to the input side and just suck out all the dust
+AJ Baxter I'm sure that would work but my dust collector only has a small container so it would be to much of a hassle...
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It seems that a pouch made of material would have done the job : it could be put in the box for easier hacking if needed.
Then again, thanx for posting.
I just let it fly then hit it with the leaf blower ,great compost for the garden and the grass
Great project!! improve its slip if you put wheels.
Good try however I think you over engineered this one. Try using a powertec dust filter bag as it works fantastic since this planer has a built in blower exhaust. Make an extension of the existing black dust port with pvc. so it will be out of the way and slightly off to the side. I use mine every day and for $20 it works awesome.
Kia'aina Wong wonder if stacking one up and one down would work? See lots of dust collectors built that way.
Could you tell me what Powertec bag you have? I'd like to do that to mine too. Thanks.
maybe, use some 4" pvc with mini holes drilled in it to pass air to the secondary chamber(cap the end in the primary chamber) drill holes small enough with plenty of holes might do the trick:>)
+Russ Veinot I think anything small will get plugged in the first stage
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Ryan
Why not make a dust separator like Mathias Wandels design and have your chips feed in the side and the screen on the top exit hole. Takes care of your small space, chip collection, easy empty and little to no dust
was there a reason why you didnt just use the shop vac you have?
shop vacs dont handle lots of dust well.
Man you are not afraid of the blade on a table saw lol
is it planner or planer? if it's planner that'd explain why my Gumtree searches for a planer are coming up short!
+Livi120 definite typo;) thank for letting me know, all fixed.
why not use a dust deputy and shop vac?
+Neil F still need a cart for the planner:)
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Your shop is small? HAHAHA. Come to UK, you gonna see what the small shop mean. Nice vid.
+my520graj small compared to my last shop;)
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I don’t get it.. looks like pain in the back and too much trouble emptying the chips !
Add a drawer
You posted this in March of 2016, it is now December 2018.....what kind of set up are you using now after more than two and a half years?
I'm thinking you've graduated to a better collection system...yes.
Actually I still use this set up. Besides being cumbersome to empty, it works really well. I like how the whole set up fits under my workbench as well. If you use your planner alot it my get to annoying to empty but for lite use, it works well.
Why don't you put a port or blast gate attached where your screen is now and use your cyclone to catch the small amount ,
+Gregg Voice of Reason that's not a bad idea;)
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Neat!
Attach to a dust collector that uses centrifugal force.
Where the hell ya been?
Ryan, great effort but you need think about what you are trying to achieve here. All any set up like this will achieve is basic chip collection. You are not capturing any of the harmful dust particles that are invisible to the eye. This system is just pumping the harmful dust back into the air for you to breathe, and it is not even capturing the chips that effectively. Really, just hook up a vac straight to the planer. It wont capture the fine dust either, but it will work better as a chip collector....and way simpler for you. Google Bill Pentz and read up on dust collection, you only have one set one lungs.
nice job revising it until you had a product you were satisfied with.
+Miter Mike's Woodshop thank you!