Paper_Gangsta17 in the scheme of things terrible as the decision is wrex was willing to compromise the entire Mission and that could potentially let saren get a krogan army just to have a cure for his people not realizing that his people would be slaves to saren but not caring.
Well, if you don't have enough Paragon/Renegade points, he dies no matter what unless you saved his family armor before the trip to Virmire. You can either get help from Ashley to kill Wrex, kill Wrex yourself, or accidently distract Wrex long enough for Ashley to kill Wrex. It's quite sad either way, but sometimes it's not a choice
well if you do virmire with only having tali, wrex, ashly and kaidan (you can need to not recruit garrus) wrex will just back off because the game does not allow you to have one team mate so wrex won't die
Its not really his fault though. I can imagine what he is feeling. At the very least he can be reasoned with and will see and understand what you are saying. Which is unlike most other krogan. Wrex is da bess.
I personally prefer Female Shepard (Jennifer Hale). She sounds way angrier and more badass than Male Shepard does. Especially during the conversation with the Turian guard when going to investigate the plague on Omega. Besides, I always play Renegade by answering to characters before they can finish talking (dialog skipping button), to look even more Renegade.
can we just appreciate the fact that a pre-Cerberus modified Shepard completely floored a pissed off, fully grown and armored Krogan with one swing? I cant even imagine how hard you'd have to punch to do that
I love how your squadmates just stare at the person on the ground after they get shot lol. Also a minor touch, but Liara getting her biotic abilities charged was so cool whenever she took a combative stance. Wish the proceeding games kept that.
Or the one where you literally shoot Mordin in the back. Fucking hell, Bioware, this is Mass Effect, not Star Wars. There is no evil Dark Side forcing people to reduce into twisted, vicious, perverted versions of themselves.
killing the rachni queen is the saddest one. imagine being taken a prisoner, have your children become slaves that get russia ww2 at the enemy, and then when you get rescued, have your rescuer kill you because he can't control you. poor creature. there was also something sad about having to kill the thurian in ME1, but there wasn't a choice
Actually, killing the Asari in Saren's lab, despite being a Renegade choice and seeming quite brutal on Shepard's side, is the right choice to make. She is already indoctrinated, she will re-appear on ME2 still doing some shady business (helping Maelon, IIRC), and if spared again, she does a suicide bombing on ME3, killing tons of civilians. So yea, killing her is the correct choice.
Yep it's an email, or a news report, something very minor and easy to miss. She was indoctrinated since ME1 and when Reapers arrive in ME3 she suicide bombs and kills a ton of Asari.
There are lots of Renegade choices in ME1 that are simply better in the long run sprinkled throughout the game, no matter how dickish they seem. One of the reasons why it's morality system was better than ME2/3, it's not about being evil, it's about getting the mission done.
Yeah, you can only let her go in part 2. And this makes one of your team mates comment, basically that letting her walk will bite you later, or words to that effect.
Saren's suicide is exactly the kind of character-influenced ending that ME3 lacks. How much better would it be if all your good or bad deeds affected how you can end the Reaper War?
ME3's ending, even with the DC, wasn't brilliant, but so many people ignore what that game did right. It wasn't as good as ME2 (which is a genre staple!) but now that Andromeda is out, I wish I could just go back and play it for the first time again.
+Jukse RPG Bioware will never be able to capture the experience of this trilogy again. That said, I think Andromeda is a great game, it is a new type of Mass Effect game. (I do realize it's faults)
FusRoDah2 Same i think Andromeda is even better than ME3, it is true there are a lot of bad things in Andromeda but the missions, conservations, interaction between team mates are 10 times better than ME3. There were only few missions i liked in ME3 because we were fighting against dumb humans 10 times more than reapers...
MeA was good but the story lacked any depth. And if you ignored the side quests it won't matter much in the end anyway because the ending took on a different planet entirely. For being an open world game, it's plot felt very linear. Plus, the nudity was glorified for I don't know what reason.
LanIaFortroSha I'll happily give Wrex for Mordin, also, I'm kinda against curing the Genophage, I mean, they are primitive and would probably try kill the Salarians and Turians, apart from Grunt, Grunt is best Krogan
I just wish my Shepard could tell her to turn around. So they wouldn't have to shoot her in the back. I don't like shooting people in the back, not even traitors. :\
I like Sarens Suicide, because you speak to his soul and he realized that he is completely indoctrinated. He thoughts his Suicide was the only choice to save shepard and so he can stop sovereign. His last words "Thank you Shepard" are so good
I love playing renegade, nut its impossible to be full renegade. As also I believe it is impossible to be full paragon, especially because I hate how pussy shepard is sometimes
Killing the Rachni is the proper choice given what we knew at the time, and Wrex dies anyways unless you agree to allow the Korgan to become a galactic scourge once again in ME(3).
@@mlmii1933 For me Wrex goes over anything, so yes i made sure he and the Krogans survive. But as a paragon player, i agree with Jerry, sometimes a good punch and a nice bullet dont hurt anyone.
I always hack my paragon and renegade bars to full when playing the trilogy. I see Shep as a good guy, but not a dumb one. If someone does something unspeakeable you can punish him, however you can also show mercy in another occasion. You can't by doing a full rene or a full para 'cause one of the option will be grey. Mixed creates a really interesting character. A good guy when counts, a punisher when needed.
I could never play an a**hole like that - I want my heroes to be heroes. Not squeaky clean, but at least doing good. I usually end up being 90/10 paragon/renegade.
Same, I wanted to do like an aspiring Legend in ME1. Then In ME2 do more renegade stuff (I shocked one dude in the back that I thought I killed him and was like 'Osht...Well never speak of this agian' and backed out. I liked my conclusion though, I didn't want everyone to die...But the ones that did made sense. Legion died...May have made the wrong call, Thane died he might of gotten over whelmed, Miranda died she got over whelmed and I think she was like a lead, but I tried to get her loyalty, but I think I got locked out and she wouldn't talk to me any more so...Yeah. ME3 was meant to be like a redemption story. Finished up Ashely's romance, met up with the remnants of the old squads...I think Tali died or something and my Shepard made the choice to give up his essence and merge with the reapers and I think that's when the flash back of the people that died if any up to that point played and I think that added to the personal conclusion that he redeemed himself. So that's my headcanon for the next game.
Eh, more like 70/30, 80/20 at most for me. Sometimes bad people just need to die, like that gunship engineer I stabbed in the back and the merc I threw out the window in ME2.
Saren shooting himself is one of the most incredible scenes I've ever seen in a video game, so cinematic and a brilliant end to a great villain. ME1 is so phenomenal.
That's actually the second-highest score that ME:1 will allow (it's much more conservative with paragon/renegade numbers than later parts). Killing the Queen also nets you +25 renegade score. The only option higher is to massacre all of the colonists on Zhu's Hope rather than pacifying them, which nets you +33 renegade if you kill every single one. Probably wasn't included in this video because it's a gameplay choice rather than a cutscene one.
Killing the virmire secretary was easy, she worked for saren willingly and then tried to betray him so that she might live, one she worked for saren and two she then tried to stab him in the back when her life was in jeopardy.
then in ME2 works with Okeer for breeding Grunt and then(already indoctrinated from ME1) kill herself by suicide bombing in ME3 while Reapers are coming on Thessia killing thousands of people...even before the reapers's attack
Killing wrex? Who the hell would do that? When Ashley killed him i was so angry so I reload the game before,i saved wrex and when i had to decide who must die on virmire..i had no doubt
Anybody else wish you could have this ruthless, detached Shepard in Mass Effect 3? I feel like no matter how Renegade you are in 3, Shepard acts regretful about whatever ruthless act you just did. Here, Shepard looks like he has absolutely no regrets for any of the lives or murders he commits here.
I know so many Sony users who were pissed that ME1 was for a while only on Xbox. Co worker and I would talk about things and they said it never happened in two or 3 and were like ever play the first one. Lol
You get like 60 renegade points if you persuade Jeong and kill all the colonists on Feros. And if you do the side missions, the colony still survives. LOL
If your paragon score is high enough it will unlock the paragon option... but you will still hsve to fight Saren. After the scene, Sovereign takes controll of the dead Saren via his implants and will climb and jump walls like a Geth type in ME1. Don't know for sure, but it also gives you an achievement.
I'm playing this series for the first time and I'm about (I'm guessing) half way through me2 and the renegade action for Miranda's loyalty mission was actually pretty badass
I wish Mass Effect had something like Dishonored where if you play evil, the guy who was on your side the whole time turns on you near the very end and you have to put a bolt in his head.
3:24 I felt like the worst person ever killing Shiala (Thorian Victim) in my renegade run, I could only stomach going full renegade once. She is not at fault for much of anything. Then she helps you completely willingly and necessary for your success by giving Shepard the cipher. Then she says she want's to stay and help the people on the colony. Then you say 'sorry, you gotta die' and she willingly accepts her execution by getting on her knees and holding her head out for you. It's maybe the most fucked up shit in the whole series. Some other choices are hard because of the character sentimentality, Wrex, for example, but there is a back and forth that makes some sense in the result. Killing Shiala is just evil.
I get that a few of these were a bit excessive, but to me, renegade shep in ME1 has aged like fine wine, imo way better than in the other games. What stuck out about ME1 was how the significant renegade options were almost always contextualized as shepard putting the success of the mission above any individual's personal motivation. Renegade conversations with crewmembers were almost always about having them fall in line when they were having doubts or personal motivations, because renegade shepard expects the crew to view the success of the mission as the highest priority. sure, renegade shepard was an asshole the other times, but the value of renegade was far easier for me to get behind in ME1, because of how many renegade options were the most efficient solution, instead of being there just to make shepard look like a thug. I guess I could write an assay of examples, but after just having played ME1 and ME2 after each other, this was the impression I was left with, and to me, the difference in handling the renegade system was night and day. ME2 has a severe increase in sass for the renegade options, and there is almost no moral roleplay to establish shepard as a "mission success at all cost" type of character, because shepard in ME2 is just busy with assemblig the crew, unlike ME1 shepard, which was given a list of missions and was often challenged about how he/she would solve the problems. Renegade shep in ME2 has you insulting the illusive man and throwing shade at everyone, and the game rewards you renegade points for every time you say a borderline rude thing, which to me seems like missing the point of how renegade worked in ME1. ME2 gets it right a few times, like when during the suicide mission, you can refuse to escort the abducted crew *because* it would affect mission efficiency. But there's only a few examples like that spread throughout, while ME1 had you make choices like that all the time, at least it felt that way after playing both games within a week. I'm starting ME3 for the first time soon, and I really, really hope the renegade system takes the approach of ME1, with a clear conflict between mission efficiency vs ideals and values. I'll be a bit disappointed if it's like ME2, with its "doormat vs chad" approach. ME2 did a hundred things better, but renegade shepard was at its best in ME1.
I know killing the secretary winds up saves a bunch of people in the 3rd game, but it is still a monstrous thing to do. I usually do it, but it's probably the one decision in the first game that I find the hardest, and it kinda tears me up inside.
The series got way better at portraying these ruthless acts over time. In subsequent games (ME3, in particular) you usually get hints of Shepard's regret and how difficult it sometimes is for him to make these choices, but that he believes they are the right ones (e.g. killing Mordin, killing Wrex), and it's mainly through animation, voice acting, camera angles and general cinematography, whereas in ME1, things are less refined and, consequently, paint him as a bit of a sociopath instead.
Yo Main Mexican Yes, but Shepard doesn't know that. I always kill her because my Shep doesn't want to risk everyone's life based on an "if" this queen is saying the truth
I believe that the best Shepard is the "Paragade", you're a soldier and need to get the jobs done, just in the beginning of the game, that you find farmers snuggling weapon's.
I remember getting that Paragon choice of having Saren commit suicide for my first playthrough. I was like "...oh shit, did I just skip the final boss fight?".
When i had the chance to kill Wrex in the first game i couldn't do it. In the third game i never could have betrayed him and he's people. Wrex is seriously one of the most loyal people i know that i can't stab in the back.
Jesus, I could never kill Wrex. He may not be one of my favorites, but he's still one of the most loyal ones to Shep. Hell, I did a run with Wreav as the Urdnot leader in ME2, so I just avoided recruiting Wrex in ME1. Hahaha. Ashley's "better him than the commander" though, cold as ice. XD
It also felt like your choices here had way more long term consequences too, both good and bad. Even something as brutal as murdering Wrex could potentially lead to some good throughout the rest of the trilogy if you played your cards right.
The one, far reaching renegade action in that bunch, and it's oddly, the one most people don't like doing. Kill Wrex on Virmire; and when you get to part three, (provided you made other certain other renegade decisions in between) Mordin doesn't have to die.
I tried to make a Dick Shepard but he looked so cool after the char creation.. and Sometimes it made me question my morality ... now im playing him neutral with the weight on Renegade options like Killing people or scumbags mercilessly i.e The Fist , that asshat bartender who poisened u etc.
Wrex is like a brother, how could anyone choose to kill him
Paper_Gangsta17 in the scheme of things terrible as the decision is wrex was willing to compromise the entire Mission and that could potentially let saren get a krogan army just to have a cure for his people not realizing that his people would be slaves to saren but not caring.
Paper_Gangsta17 Whoever made any of these decisions is really messed up.... except punching the reporter and sarens sucide.
Well, if you don't have enough Paragon/Renegade points, he dies no matter what unless you saved his family armor before the trip to Virmire. You can either get help from Ashley to kill Wrex, kill Wrex yourself, or accidently distract Wrex long enough for Ashley to kill Wrex. It's quite sad either way, but sometimes it's not a choice
well if you do virmire with only having tali, wrex, ashly and kaidan (you can need to not recruit garrus) wrex will just back off because the game does not allow you to have one team mate so wrex won't die
Its not really his fault though. I can imagine what he is feeling. At the very least he can be reasoned with and will see and understand what you are saying. Which is unlike most other krogan. Wrex is da bess.
The three stages of Renegade Shepard:
ME 1: Dick
ME 2: Badass
ME 3: Worse than Hitler
Manning Damant more like
1. Dick
2. Son of 100 bitches
3. Hitle and Stalin fusion
@@EmomanTavish not sure if trolling, cause I'm a libertarian, and fairly far right
@@oscarvera2085 2. Is like the leader of a biker gang, he's awesome
I wanted to do a full renegade gameplay but I just can't.
This
I went full brutal on my first playthrough of the trilogy, but Wrex is a Bro.
It's easier as the fem-shep, the voice actor does a much better job with the renegade options.
its even worst when he dies in 3
This
I love how Shepard completely unleashes when he punches someone. He seriously doesn't hold back.
UT AllTheWay my man has some repressed anger he needs to let out lol
He swings his arm like it weighs 200 pounds
Like when he punches that pyjak on Tuchanka lol
I personally prefer Female Shepard (Jennifer Hale). She sounds way angrier and more badass than Male Shepard does. Especially during the conversation with the Turian guard when going to investigate the plague on Omega.
Besides, I always play Renegade by answering to characters before they can finish talking (dialog skipping button), to look even more Renegade.
@Goku son You must be dumb because to each his/her own preferences.
can we just appreciate the fact that a pre-Cerberus modified Shepard completely floored a pissed off, fully grown and armored Krogan with one swing? I cant even imagine how hard you'd have to punch to do that
I actually found that to be kinda silly.
Yet he can't knock a frail female reporter out
@@lemonismq4642 he restrains himself against reporters.
I felt wrex was at a weakened state at the shock of it all and really didn't want to harm the commander but couldn't back down from what was at stake.
"I've had enough of your snide insinuations. [Punch]" Omg the reporter punches are the best
Echo I’ve had enough of your disengenious assertions
I’ve had enough of your tabloid journalism
I wanted to punch chobot in M3, disappointed I couldn't. It was fun to kick her out of the ship ''learn to code'' style tho.
that reporter has great character development, by the 3rd game she's learnt to duck.
I love how your squadmates just stare at the person on the ground after they get shot lol.
Also a minor touch, but Liara getting her biotic abilities charged was so cool whenever she took a combative stance. Wish the proceeding games kept that.
She does that in other games.
They do, Samara in particular seems to have no other way of intimidating people other than glowing like the boss bitch she is
the funny thing is thaat if you kill saren's secretary you actually save some innocents in me3
thegame expert how?
Name Name in me3 you get a message where it says that she killed a bunch of people because she was indoctrinated
if you spare her of course
Yeah, basically, she turns into a suicide bomber.
Fuck
K. Morris also you meet her in the second game as well again in a very "compromising" situation
Watching that Wrex scene was hard
think so? then go take a look at ME3, when wrex is alive and you betray him and all the krogans by not curing. that scene is far worse.
Or the one where you literally shoot Mordin in the back.
Fucking hell, Bioware, this is Mass Effect, not Star Wars. There is no evil Dark Side forcing people to reduce into twisted, vicious, perverted versions of themselves.
"I'm feeling a hell of a lot better than he is" god that's gold xD
@@buca117 I'm pretty sure that's not the dark side either
I did it cause my Shepard was a prickly, violent, self-righteous dog. But during me3, I managed to save Mordin from suicide or me killing him.
Wow, what a psychotic and nasty choices. Garrus and Liara are just standing there awkwardley with look that says: "Well, look at that."
Just another day of being in a squad with Shepard
They knew what they signed up for
lmao
killing the rachni queen is the saddest one. imagine being taken a prisoner, have your children become slaves that get russia ww2 at the enemy, and then when you get rescued, have your rescuer kill you because he can't control you. poor creature.
there was also something sad about having to kill the thurian in ME1, but there wasn't a choice
Coffee Break Hero so that's context?
i just stumbled upon this video..
Pretty much.
Actually, killing the Asari in Saren's lab, despite being a Renegade choice and seeming quite brutal on Shepard's side, is the right choice to make. She is already indoctrinated, she will re-appear on ME2 still doing some shady business (helping Maelon, IIRC), and if spared again, she does a suicide bombing on ME3, killing tons of civilians. So yea, killing her is the correct choice.
Yep it's an email, or a news report, something very minor and easy to miss. She was indoctrinated since ME1 and when Reapers arrive in ME3 she suicide bombs and kills a ton of Asari.
Strax u autospare her in me2 no?
May very well be, I don't remember. Maybe there was an option to arrest her? You can only kill her in ME1, almost sure of that.
There are lots of Renegade choices in ME1 that are simply better in the long run sprinkled throughout the game, no matter how dickish they seem. One of the reasons why it's morality system was better than ME2/3, it's not about being evil, it's about getting the mission done.
Yeah, you can only let her go in part 2. And this makes one of your team mates comment, basically that letting her walk will bite you later, or words to that effect.
Saren's suicide is exactly the kind of character-influenced ending that ME3 lacks. How much better would it be if all your good or bad deeds affected how you can end the Reaper War?
not really, you had to fight sovereign either way, same as when you convince TIM to commit suicide.
ME3's ending, even with the DC, wasn't brilliant, but so many people ignore what that game did right. It wasn't as good as ME2 (which is a genre staple!) but now that Andromeda is out, I wish I could just go back and play it for the first time again.
+Jukse RPG Bioware will never be able to capture the experience of this trilogy again. That said, I think Andromeda is a great game, it is a new type of Mass Effect game. (I do realize it's faults)
FusRoDah2
Same i think Andromeda is even better than ME3, it is true there are a lot of bad things in Andromeda but the missions, conservations, interaction between team mates are 10 times better than ME3. There were only few missions i liked in ME3 because we were fighting against dumb humans 10 times more than reapers...
MeA was good but the story lacked any depth. And if you ignored the side quests it won't matter much in the end anyway because the ending took on a different planet entirely. For being an open world game, it's plot felt very linear. Plus, the nudity was glorified for I don't know what reason.
Damn, Jeong saw his life flash right before his eyes!
At 1:13 you can tell he was serious cause his eyes pop out like crazy. xD
Shepard: *knocks down Wrexx, shoots three times*
Kaiden: You alright?
Shepard: I'm feeling a hell of a lot better than he is!
lol yeah. that was coooooold blooded!
Holy crap, who in the world could kill Wrex?!
The one plus about killing Wrex is that you don't have to let Mordin die in part 3! Talk about far-reaching consequences.
LanIaFortroSha I'll happily give Wrex for Mordin, also, I'm kinda against curing the Genophage, I mean, they are primitive and would probably try kill the Salarians and Turians, apart from Grunt, Grunt is best Krogan
@@jimpickens1701 that's why i'm hoping for giving to humans the genophage...they're primitives *Javik Voice*
I did. Killed everyone on my team whenever I had a chance.
I typically killed Wrex, if not in (1), than in (3) since the genophage can not be allowed to be cured.
Wow, you fucking killed Shiala?
My renegade Shepard is a real bitch, but this is just wrong xD
pbluma which one was that?
The Asari Commando
if you dont kill her, in Mass Effect 3 she goes crazy and kills a bunch of people
No, Shiala is not the asari who was experimenting on krogans. She is the Thorian's slave and later on, she'll turn to be helpful.
I just wish my Shepard could tell her to turn around.
So they wouldn't have to shoot her in the back.
I don't like shooting people in the back, not even traitors. :\
i like how the paragon saren choice is even more renegade you convince someone to shoot themselves xD
Nah the renegade one is more cold, "There's still one way to stop this...if you got the guts!"
I like Sarens Suicide, because you speak to his soul and he realized that he is completely indoctrinated. He thoughts his Suicide was the only choice to save shepard and so he can stop sovereign. His last words "Thank you Shepard" are so good
Wrex and the Rachni gets me everytime...
Two things I can't do the renegade option for no matter how many times I want to do a renegade play threw.
I love playing renegade, nut its impossible to be full renegade. As also I believe it is impossible to be full paragon, especially because I hate how pussy shepard is sometimes
Killing the Rachni is the proper choice given what we knew at the time, and Wrex dies anyways unless you agree to allow the Korgan to become a galactic scourge once again in ME(3).
@@mlmii1933 For me Wrex goes over anything, so yes i made sure he and the Krogans survive. But as a paragon player, i agree with Jerry, sometimes a good punch and a nice bullet dont hurt anyone.
@@astralaris8712 ... ok, but just know that you've doomed the galaxy with your choice.
I always hack my paragon and renegade bars to full when playing the trilogy. I see Shep as a good guy, but not a dumb one. If someone does something unspeakeable you can punish him, however you can also show mercy in another occasion. You can't by doing a full rene or a full para 'cause one of the option will be grey. Mixed creates a really interesting character. A good guy when counts, a punisher when needed.
I could never play an a**hole like that - I want my heroes to be heroes. Not squeaky clean, but at least doing good. I usually end up being 90/10 paragon/renegade.
Björn Hellqvist I only go renegade when the person deserves to die or if it is for the greater good which makes it about 80/20 of the time.
Same, I wanted to do like an aspiring Legend in ME1. Then In ME2 do more renegade stuff (I shocked one dude in the back that I thought I killed him and was like 'Osht...Well never speak of this agian' and backed out. I liked my conclusion though, I didn't want everyone to die...But the ones that did made sense. Legion died...May have made the wrong call, Thane died he might of gotten over whelmed, Miranda died she got over whelmed and I think she was like a lead, but I tried to get her loyalty, but I think I got locked out and she wouldn't talk to me any more so...Yeah.
ME3 was meant to be like a redemption story. Finished up Ashely's romance, met up with the remnants of the old squads...I think Tali died or something and my Shepard made the choice to give up his essence and merge with the reapers and I think that's when the flash back of the people that died if any up to that point played and I think that added to the personal conclusion that he redeemed himself. So that's my headcanon for the next game.
Eh, more like 70/30, 80/20 at most for me. Sometimes bad people just need to die, like that gunship engineer I stabbed in the back and the merc I threw out the window in ME2.
Björn Hellqvist soft ass nigga
65 paragon 35 renegade I'd say
Still better facial animations than ME:A
MisterLion Better than MEA period lol
No.
Sorry. My face is tired.
Saren shooting himself is one of the most incredible scenes I've ever seen in a video game, so cinematic and a brilliant end to a great villain. ME1 is so phenomenal.
DANG, renegade +25 for killing wrex?! That's all? :D
That's actually the second-highest score that ME:1 will allow (it's much more conservative with paragon/renegade numbers than later parts). Killing the Queen also nets you +25 renegade score. The only option higher is to massacre all of the colonists on Zhu's Hope rather than pacifying them, which nets you +33 renegade if you kill every single one. Probably wasn't included in this video because it's a gameplay choice rather than a cutscene one.
You can also get +25 renegade if you tell Anolais that Gianna is internal affairs. They basically shoot each other and it's massive points.
5:05
[Shoot Wrex]
"Proceeds to melee a fucking krogan to the ground"
6:20 Wrex: I'm startin' to like you humans!
The one about Ethan Jeong. Not really shocking cause he had it coming. Just saying...heh. But awesome vid :)
Killing the virmire secretary was easy, she worked for saren willingly and then tried to betray him so that she might live, one she worked for saren and two she then tried to stab him in the back when her life was in jeopardy.
then in ME2 works with Okeer for breeding Grunt and then(already indoctrinated from ME1) kill herself by suicide bombing in ME3 while Reapers are coming on Thessia killing thousands of people...even before the reapers's attack
you what would be funny, on the third clip once he punches the scientist, the lady starts yelling at Shepherd, and Shepherd just knocks her out too.
HOLY SHIT, DID SHEPARD KNOCK DOWN A KROGAN?!
Killing wrex? Who the hell would do that? When Ashley killed him i was so angry so I reload the game before,i saved wrex and when i had to decide who must die on virmire..i had no doubt
@Harun Lari then she becames funny on ME3...bc Vega shows his muscles....like a body-builder guy
Holy shit. Shepard's eyes while he shoots Wrex, not just once but 3 times. Stone fucking cold.
1:13 Uh... What’s going on with his eyeballs?
Bioware.
Punches Reporter in ME3: "Wish i've done this before"
Me: "you did"
Chiko Loco Shepard only says that if you haven't punched her in the previous games.
Killing wrex like that is the only renegade moment that really looked evil in ME1
The guns sound so BOLD and awesome in the first ME. Perfect pitch and bass. BOOM BOOM ...*BOOM*
1:43
Shepard: *Knocks another scientist*
You were saying?
Anybody else wish you could have this ruthless, detached Shepard in Mass Effect 3? I feel like no matter how Renegade you are in 3, Shepard acts regretful about whatever ruthless act you just did. Here, Shepard looks like he has absolutely no regrets for any of the lives or murders he commits here.
The frames dropped harder than Saren when that glass broke
Man I really need to finish mass effect
You really do, the best trilogy EVER.
didn't expect to see you here power
Numbers why not I know destin in RL
not going to lie, didn't even check the channel to see that it was destin lol
I know so many Sony users who were pissed that ME1 was for a while only on Xbox. Co worker and I would talk about things and they said it never happened in two or 3 and were like ever play the first one. Lol
You get like 60 renegade points if you persuade Jeong and kill all the colonists on Feros. And if you do the side missions, the colony still survives. LOL
I just love exterminating the entire Feros colony and still get emails from them in mass effect 2 thanking me for letting them live.
Wow. I don't remember seeing that last paragon choice in the end. Good job!
I dont think thats actually a paragon choice.
It is a Paragon choice. You talk Saren down to stop it by killing himself instead of ending up fighting him
oh im dumb i was mixing up paragon and renegade. my bad
If your paragon score is high enough it will unlock the paragon option... but you will still hsve to fight Saren. After the scene, Sovereign takes controll of the dead Saren via his implants and will climb and jump walls like a Geth type in ME1. Don't know for sure, but it also gives you an achievement.
I'm playing this series for the first time and I'm about (I'm guessing) half way through me2 and the renegade action for Miranda's loyalty mission was actually pretty badass
1:13 that NPC was *really* surprised
Jeong's bug eyes when Shepard is like "Nah fam, you gotta die" lol
Thank god I never played renegade.
Shiala is the prettiest asari
she would even ask you out when you help her in me2
Killing her is the most messed up thing on this list, IMO. I felt like a monster when doing a full renegade run at that moment she got on her knees.
I wish Mass Effect had something like Dishonored where if you play evil, the guy who was on your side the whole time turns on you near the very end and you have to put a bolt in his head.
i started playing mass effect 1 again. The nostalgia if going back to this game and once again realize how amazing it is.
1:12 Looks like his eyeballs went off their sockets
6:17 best renegade moment
The heir to the SW:Kotor series, went downhill after that.
MrAmad3us Mass Effect 2 was great. Mass Effect 3, SWTOR, and Mass Effect Andromeda aren't.
3:24
I felt like the worst person ever killing Shiala (Thorian Victim) in my renegade run, I could only stomach going full renegade once. She is not at fault for much of anything. Then she helps you completely willingly and necessary for your success by giving Shepard the cipher. Then she says she want's to stay and help the people on the colony. Then you say 'sorry, you gotta die' and she willingly accepts her execution by getting on her knees and holding her head out for you. It's maybe the most fucked up shit in the whole series.
Some other choices are hard because of the character sentimentality, Wrex, for example, but there is a back and forth that makes some sense in the result. Killing Shiala is just evil.
5:40 it's apparently possible to talk to a corpse..
I get that a few of these were a bit excessive, but to me, renegade shep in ME1 has aged like fine wine, imo way better than in the other games. What stuck out about ME1 was how the significant renegade options were almost always contextualized as shepard putting the success of the mission above any individual's personal motivation. Renegade conversations with crewmembers were almost always about having them fall in line when they were having doubts or personal motivations, because renegade shepard expects the crew to view the success of the mission as the highest priority. sure, renegade shepard was an asshole the other times, but the value of renegade was far easier for me to get behind in ME1, because of how many renegade options were the most efficient solution, instead of being there just to make shepard look like a thug.
I guess I could write an assay of examples, but after just having played ME1 and ME2 after each other, this was the impression I was left with, and to me, the difference in handling the renegade system was night and day. ME2 has a severe increase in sass for the renegade options, and there is almost no moral roleplay to establish shepard as a "mission success at all cost" type of character, because shepard in ME2 is just busy with assemblig the crew, unlike ME1 shepard, which was given a list of missions and was often challenged about how he/she would solve the problems. Renegade shep in ME2 has you insulting the illusive man and throwing shade at everyone, and the game rewards you renegade points for every time you say a borderline rude thing, which to me seems like missing the point of how renegade worked in ME1. ME2 gets it right a few times, like when during the suicide mission, you can refuse to escort the abducted crew *because* it would affect mission efficiency. But there's only a few examples like that spread throughout, while ME1 had you make choices like that all the time, at least it felt that way after playing both games within a week.
I'm starting ME3 for the first time soon, and I really, really hope the renegade system takes the approach of ME1, with a clear conflict between mission efficiency vs ideals and values. I'll be a bit disappointed if it's like ME2, with its "doormat vs chad" approach. ME2 did a hundred things better, but renegade shepard was at its best in ME1.
You commented 6 months ago. Have you played Me3 jet? What do you think about it’s renegade options?
I know killing the secretary winds up saves a bunch of people in the 3rd game, but it is still a monstrous thing to do. I usually do it, but it's probably the one decision in the first game that I find the hardest, and it kinda tears me up inside.
@Harun Lari more monstrous than suicide-bombing herself on Thessia (ME3)?
You missed a big one by letting Anoleis and Gianna kill each other
Didn't feel anything killing Rachni queen.
Crazy how renegade sherpard often look like your average cop
it's not crazy...it's just sad...cops should be cops not spectres or minority-killers
That rachni bit was so sad. They're so helpless. :(
did anyone else see that guys eyes? wtf
“I’ve had enough of your snide insinuations..”
Thump
6:04 HAHAHAHAHAHA I just spit everything out of my mouth while eating xD
1:13 Those. Fucking. Eyes
It's just another Korean with double eyelid surgery.
The series got way better at portraying these ruthless acts over time. In subsequent games (ME3, in particular) you usually get hints of Shepard's regret and how difficult it sometimes is for him to make these choices, but that he believes they are the right ones (e.g. killing Mordin, killing Wrex), and it's mainly through animation, voice acting, camera angles and general cinematography, whereas in ME1, things are less refined and, consequently, paint him as a bit of a sociopath instead.
I kinda wish there was a more Paragon way to kill the rachni queen. like I'm sorry but I can't risk rachni invading again
Nigga, she helps with the Crucible
Yo Main Mexican Yes, but Shepard doesn't know that. I always kill her because my Shep doesn't want to risk everyone's life based on an "if" this queen is saying the truth
It's just a few renegade points, deal with it.
Simply choose to spare her and then change your mind. The dialogue is a lot, well... Less genocidal.
the 2nd one isn't a renegade option and shepard shoots this guy any way if you don't pick the blue or red dialog option.
I didn't choose any of these actions first time I played Mass Effect, except shooting Ethan Jeong and the bonus paragon choice with Saren.
You should have included massacring all the brainwashed colonists on Feros
6:10. Did this on a paragon playthrough.
Just realized that shepard has a coldblooded side that's actually quite scary!
01:10 the eyes of the dude in the background and the Jeong character suggest some heavy-duty drugs.
that hard right hook had me dying
Shepard so boxing pro lol
poor Wrex that gun melee was savage
I believe that the best Shepard is the "Paragade", you're a soldier and need to get the jobs done, just in the beginning of the game, that you find farmers snuggling weapon's.
Killing Wrex is very f*cked up!
That sh*t make me cry! >.>
I remember getting that Paragon choice of having Saren commit suicide for my first playthrough. I was like "...oh shit, did I just skip the final boss fight?".
When i had the chance to kill Wrex in the first game i couldn't do it. In the third game i never could have betrayed him and he's people. Wrex is seriously one of the most loyal people i know that i can't stab in the back.
Lmao there should be more instances where you can just punch people you talk to!! That reporter scene was funny
I pick mostly renegade, but paragon when it'll be more useful (saving Wrex, saving those people on ME3, etc).
Holy shit. I lost it with the reporter LOL. I did the 2nd one the same, but I had to skip Rex's part.
Who didn't want to hang up on the council never gets old
Lol Liara is just like "damn."
that damn pistol lol every game
Even when Wrex ambushes you in ME3 for sabotaging the cure it's waiting for you to press the LMB
Jesus, I could never kill Wrex. He may not be one of my favorites, but he's still one of the most loyal ones to Shep. Hell, I did a run with Wreav as the Urdnot leader in ME2, so I just avoided recruiting Wrex in ME1. Hahaha. Ashley's "better him than the commander" though, cold as ice. XD
3 of the first four seemed perfectly reasonable to me.
Saren is an absolute BADASS tho
the choices in me1 are way more life changing i think. killing wrex, rachni extinction. That stuff felt real
It also felt like your choices here had way more long term consequences too, both good and bad. Even something as brutal as murdering Wrex could potentially lead to some good throughout the rest of the trilogy if you played your cards right.
I have played it only once as a baddie and 5 times as a goodie, yet every single time Khalisah Bint Sinan al Jilani gets punched
2:37 claws?
what an odd word to use..
I shot Jeong , but I swear I picked Paragon, how strange
A Dog With No Soul Aka A SoullessDoggo The only way for Jeong to live is selecting the charm or intimidate options.
@@jomnix I picked the charm option and it still ended up killing him
@@Boxsteam The blue option?
@@jomnix that too
most shocking renegade moments
*literally chooses the paragon option of the final fight*
1:29 Do that in EVERY playthough
I killed Jhong on my Paragon Play through...
The one, far reaching renegade action in that bunch, and it's oddly, the one most people don't like doing. Kill Wrex on Virmire; and when you get to part three, (provided you made other certain other renegade decisions in between) Mordin doesn't have to die.
I tried to make a Dick Shepard but he looked so cool after the char creation.. and Sometimes it made me question my morality ... now im playing him neutral with the weight on Renegade options like Killing people or scumbags mercilessly i.e The Fist , that asshat bartender who poisened u etc.
I think the more shocking thing with the reporter is that you can actually avoid the interview entirely. I didn't even try.
Whats worse shooting him yourself or having somebody else do it for you...
I’ve decided to go 100 on the renegade mode. Iz hard.
I mean, he fucking desecrated Wrex with that shotgun.