Toughest Gym Leader in Every Pokemon Game
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Which gym leader is consistently the hardest to defeat in every main series Pokemon game?
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I over leveled a geodude then used self destruct to kill Whitney’s miltank.
Nice
big brain
@@snoutts 他有大脑精神
(taps forehead) "can't kill me, if I kill myself first!"
FineJay nice
I see the rage in michael’s eyes just talking about Whitney’s Miltank
I know
@Grandiville Strong Yes
Not just rage but also pain in his eyes. Those who played Gen 2 on Game Boy can sympathize with him,
it's all fun and game until you face Whitney's Miltank!
Jan Daniel Bondad oh hell yeah brotha I know what you mean even tho I 13 I played silver on game boy
Whitneys Miltank is the reason I didn't play that generation of pokemon. I couldn't beat it lmfao
Funny thing is, Whitney never had quite the same lasting impression on me that she apparently did for many people. When I played gold, she gave me some trouble with attract, but I ended up heading north of Goldenrod and catching Nidoran Female. Nidorina, was immune to attract, pretty tanky against Rollout, and hit decently hard with double kick. Nidoqueen became one of my favourite pokemon because of that game.
same here i knew what was coming and grinded 30 mins for flamethrower TM and metronome item for my quilava
easy sweep
I pp stalled miltank and it was so infuriating and i had to buy 200 POTIONS! You can imagine how much it took
My hole team were simps for her milktank
In gold I used Dig that you can find in the national park with an Onix, and it made her battle way too easy.
Fastforward to heartgold, I used a heracross to one shot it.
she very tough
For Gen 3: In ruby and saphire i would agree with norman. But not in emerald. The Twins are so much harder in that game.
I agree
Like first time I got to them when I was like 6 I just got pounded because I didn’t understand doubles
ISTG that claydol is a piece of crap
The twin were so strong. I trained extra for them two Sharpedos
Norman on Emerland is easy. I found Makuhita pretty hard with Vital Throw.
Everyone knew what was coming when he said "now for generation 2"
Inpersonnally found Whitney easy, all I do is build fury cutters on clefairy then one shot miltank
I taught thunder to my mareep and spammed it and won
@@RileighWhitehead you had over leveled pokemon...
Should Be CLAIR
@@gyisdoingstuff9561 You used Thunder and it DIDN'T miss!?
“You’re gengar is dead”
Me: it’s a ghost type it’s already dead
Mr Banana Head *your
@@rainyaj4015 No, he is wrong. You're means you are. "You are gengar is dead" makes no sense. "Your gengar is dead" is correct
And poison so it's double dead
@@Akyure correct
A Trevenant in the anime that Kukui knew as a kid was revealed to have died and Acerola's Mimikyu is an actual ghost so... Ghost types CAN die...
When I realized I could build up my Feraligatr's rage with Clefairy and destroy Miltank almost immediately, I felt so OP
Yeah Feraligator, Steelix, Golem, Ho-oh, Lugia, and Machamp all worked as a team to nearly beat Miltank
@@filmblox9845 y'all are making me feel like i did something wrong, whitney was so easy compared to Bugsy's Scyther
Just use a geodude with rollout on Clefairy and easy clap the miltank. Or you evolve it before to a Graveler at lvl 25 and learn self destruct at lvl 21 worst case scenario. You should have consistant victories at even just lvl 21 with magnitude and self destruct, since Miltank won't even go for a rollout first at times.
Or just use 1 pokemon and easy clap everything with your overleveled pokemon because johto champions are a joke. You can do that even with a Ledyba with 35 base attack, so yeah.
Or for the first game, use a butterfree, level it up enough and put it to sleep
Or use the traded machop for extremely easy level up and beat up
Frankly there's so many options to beat it
@@filmblox9845 who the hell is gonna have that team before 3 badges and how the flip u gonna get both legends
What made Jolteon so nasty was that even though his attack was low, his speed (for the time) was stupidly high, with him only tying with Electrode for the fastest Pokemon in the game. Back in Gen 1, Speed governed your crit chance, which meant that it only took a couple of boosters to get a Jolteon that crit-shot every time. This, couple with the fact that he had Pin Missle, meant that he pretty much wrecked any Psychic type he came across, even Mewtwo. Now, Jolteon's good but not fantastic, but back in the day, Doc J was a friggin' rock star.
After 25 years, he's still my boy.
Electrode has always been faster and boosts didn't increase your crit rate in Gen 1 since it was governed only by the base speed of a Pokemon, not their total speed.
And remember.. crits hit at x2 in gen 1, rather than the current x1.5
A RBY Jolteon with 2 Agility boosts would destroy everyone except Rhydon and Golem.
Pin Missile sucks you’re better off using thunderbolt and even then it’s not that great considering every psychic in Gen 1 has amazing special defense
@@bigroaststyrone8135 Pin Missile sucks NOW, but back in the OG's it could OHKO Mewtwo. I know because I did it. Multiple times. My biggest problem with catching Mewtwo in Gen 1was that I kept knocking it out. For the record, I used my MB on Moltres because he was an annoying little cuss that broke out of over 200 pokeballs while PARALYZED AND ASLEEP!
@@1B1ueyedwo1f yeah but catching it in the wild and fighting other people are 2 very different things. Fought plenty of Jolteons with pin missile back in the day with Mewtwo and none of them could touch it. That team had Mewtwo and Alakazam as my leads and they shredded Jolteon with his piss poor attack
i wonder why brock doesn't use his drying pan against water types
I- LOL
Gold
Nice
It's illegal
He doesn’t have his trusty jelly-filled donuts
Ah yes, Whitney's Miltank, the only pokemon that can cause a kid to say "I wish my pokemon was gay"
HAHAHHA
lol xD
Azurill evolving into Marill: I gotcha fam
Or straight female
Whitney : *Laughs in attract*
Whitney tip: use x attacks when miltank comes out and it should take one or two hits before rollout gets too good
Or use a female Pokemon instead male to avoid Attract lol
Another tip use heracross bc it learns brick break at lvl 19
@@heatherbota827 only in gen 4
@@pauloovl Ik know but I mean in hgss when gen 4 was already made
Another trick is to use Sand Attack and make her miss. Rollout builds damage off of consecutive hits. If Miltank misses, Rollout resets back to base damage.
I'm astounded that you didn't mention clay at all. His excadrill is outrageously powerful.
Fr people are complaining about simple pivots instead of a speedy powerful ground type.
I don’t understand how people think that excadrill is powerful, I faint it in usually one or two shots with my servine.
@@-.Lizard_eggs.- I don’t understand how people think that Emolga is powerful, I faint it in usually one or two shots with my Watchog.
Earthquake: *hits everyone*
Me who identifies as a bird keeper trainer: I don’t have such weaknesses.
Nugget the dragon master? Nay, nugget the bird keeper!
*wheeze*
@@makronie9894 Fun fact Nugget has his own ending and the route to have it is a big reference to TCG
I'm sorry, is this some Flying Type joke that I'm too Levitated to understand?
That level of genjutsu don't work on me
mikey: miltank is gonna-
me: who leveled my quilava to level 31 since i accidentally deleted ember
I would like but you already had 69
I did that the same but I didn't deleted ember
How did you "accidentally" delete ember?
@@jacobjude5826 i was spamming a to get through the text and ember was the first move so i accidentally replaced ember with quick attack i was playing the original version
How the hell?
Another reason Whitney is tough- I remember playing SoulSilver and I caught a mareep and a gastly. I remember getting to Whitney and thinking that I would just confuse her Pokemon to death with gastly, seeing as normal moves dont hit ghost type Pokemon, but in SoulSilver, her miltank has an ability that allows it to hit ghost type, so it stomped me to death.
You had the right mon for her, you just didn't know it- paralyse and hit her with a powerful special attacker
@@zyaicobthat's a good tip, her miltank has more defense than special defense
@@zyaicobshes gonna cure herself with milk drink
@@arslaanpasha3334 that's where the paralysis comes in handy
@@zyaicobYou gotta Paralyze twice because of the Lum Berry
Sabrina’s apparently the queen telling noobs to get Gud.
Mikey: "no new areas between norman and flanery"
Hoenn desert: am i a joke to you?
I mean honestly...yeah it is. The wild Pokemon there are only level 20 or so, and the five trainers aren't much stronger. Yes it is a bit of training that I did forget to mention, but it's not much training.
@@MandJTV will you be making a community day pokemon go video today?
I usually skip the desert lol
I don't know if it works in Gen 3, but in the remakes, you can catch a Trapinch or other ground type in the desert and use Dig to completely avoid his Slakings' attacks.
@@Deaderthanadoorknob2 before the post game i didnt know there was a dessert
Whitney: beats me 100X
Me: Beats her 1 time
Whitney: cries
Me: *surprised Pikachu meme*
yea that sounds about right
When you realize that the surprised pikachu meme was actualy a ditto meme all along
*surprised ditto meme
That is so true
She's use to winning but that's why I go to her gym when 3 out of 5 of my pokemon are at least lv100
The thinking one with the pi one
14:52- Another point that added to Gengar's dismay. Back then, there was no physical/special split and the kind of move it was, depended on its type. Gengar was a special attacker, while shadow ball was physical upto gen 3. So it was useful only for the versatility it had with the TMs it could learn. Same case for Starmie
And also the Shadow Ball TM is only available by purchasing one in the Game Corner
gen 4 actually made whitney easier. unlike in 2, heracross gets brick break at level 18 which is very close to when you catch it. plus, you can get one easily before goldenrod by headbutting
But you get it at level 5 at highest, I fought every trainer available and even them BARELY got to 18
@@justanoreo3928 yeah but you can get close and wild pokemon + gym trainers can do the rest
Not to mention it was one level lower, but it made it harder by having the ability scraggy (Where it can hit ghost type) and have a Pecha Berry.
I think they're about the same in difficulty. Rock Smash is stronger in Gen 4 than in Gen 2 and both Machop and Heracross are generally better for the battle. However, Gastly is eliminated as a viable answer to Miltank thanks to Scrappy and there's the Lum Berry to take into account. Plus, Heracross is still relatively out of the way to encounter, to the point where a beginner-level player might never find one.
and also Kenya the Spearow is obtained at level 20 and always female
I wanna mention with Raihan: when doing the championship, he sends out a Torkoal first. Because he predicts you'll use an ice type for his other dragon types.
Based raihan
Or a fairy type, fire resists fairy and while that torkoal never got to attack me, I assume it knows smog.
Fortunately, I only used my Ice Pokémon against his Flygon. The other dragons (save for Duraludon) were swept with Hatterene.
That’s why I got a gyrados and gave it ice beam to handle dragon types. But I sent out a hatterene first because yeah, I was expecting a dragon type LMAO
While he was correct in that assumption, my ice type was Mamoswine with Earthquake. That Torkoal didn't even get two seconds.
It’s really interesting to see the development in Pokémon
Gen 1: it’s a glitch how good she is and sees kinda broken
Gen 8: raihan has legit strategy and counter play while also having Pokémon that work as a team and take advantage of it
the problem is the new exp share + exp candy makes the battle trivial
Echo Moto couldn’t have said it better
@@dragullongblackfang8073 I love sword and shield, but ffs I wish they'd give us the option to either nerf exp. gain or turn of exp. share all together. Would be nice to actually struggle against Hop
The Mojave Synth I keep seeing people complaining about exp share but even with it I’ve been having trouble staying at the right level. Do you have any advice so I can do better? Honestly I’m probably just not good at games, but I have been struggling
@@cloudeddaze9502 If you're somehow having the opposite problem most are (that of over-leveling by accident and without effort), I'd recommend doing some raid battles (preferably online if you have Nintendo Online) as a way of grinding up your Poemon, and also because of the special drops you frequently get called EXP candies. They're like Rares, except they give you a set amount of EXP, making them far more useful than Rares by comparison. Though I gotta warn you: increase your Pokemons' levels slowly when using candies, otherwise you'll either overshoot and make the gums too easy for you, or worse, overlevel so much that your Pokemon won't listen to you till you get a better badge
I was one who was guilty of just enjoying overleveling and slamming through enemies. I was concerned more with getting certain things done than losing. Though I only ever played Emerald first, and then LeafGreen later, so I've only had two game experiences. I can see where it's a lot harder if you just go right to the gym battling without a ton of grinding.
I do that too I hate losing and losing money in video games. I struggled so much against normal type champions, Kingdras and the extremely annoying emolgas. I always try to have at least 5/10 levels higher to appreciate the game
Curiously, the thing I struggled the less in all of HeartGold was Whitney, I didn't know that miltank was such a big deal since I defeated it in two moves or so.
i don't undestand this myth that whitney is hard at all. you have many ways of beating her, she's only got 2 pokemon and they're at pretty low levels. even in hardcore nuzlockes she's pretty easy
@@piotr253 Only her rollout is the problem nothing else.
@@Windows11Sucks A female Geodude would be the best choice to make it easier.
@@JCDragon2819 true
You guys gotta understand, I was like 6 or 7 years old and the only pokemon I leveled was my Quilava because "fire types are the coolest". Whitney completely destroyed me until I just leveled up my Quilava to where it could kill Miltank before rollout got out of control. At no point did it occur to me to simply change pokemon, let alone use a fighting type when I didn't even know they were super effective against normal types
nobody:
gamefreak during the 3ds era: "why do we allow pokemon to have 4 moves again? yeah, give all the gym leaders 3 moves"
thewaddledee918 yeah that was a weird thing that happened
I didn’t realize this until recently, but Hapu’s Flygon has 2 moves.....
What?
@use code nation Imagine a Pokemon only being able to use struggle lol
The Kirby Guy that exists in Pokémon Clover
thewaddledee918 im sorry but, thats kinda bad game design. 10 year olds play these games, not 2
Michael: Rants about Miltank
Aura Guardian: *Laughs in Metronome*
Did you put this here because the memes about ban for meme review?
@RainyDay Studios actually no... never visited the subreddit. It was merely a comment to laugh at
Michael: *complains about Raihan being a hard double battle even with Earthquake*
Me: *laughs in Excadrill/Togekiss combo*
@Brenton Taylor My Lucario made little work of him. His Glaring Sandaconda might’ve been an issue, but I wasn’t close to losing my team. If anything, Opal was terrible even if my Drapion crit her Alcreamie.... stupid age question
@@rainydaystudios2674 Have you not seen season 1 of the metrenome league
Fun strategy I used for beating Elesa on my last gen 5 run was by using a dwebble. I didn't have many options for doing damage to her emolgas beyond some sort of rock type, but since I already had an unevolved sandile and wasn't really trying to level up a decent rock type pokemon for one battle I realized I could use a dwebble I caught in the desert resort. Only problem was that this was less than optimal seeing as dwebbles offensive capability is well known to be subpar, but I also remembered that it had smack down. I ended up using dwebble to smack down her emolgas and then switching into sandile once the emolga was grounded. Ending up working decently well, and it felt good being able to finally hit her with ground moves.
Huh.
I over leveled in Black 2 and had Palpitoad deal with everything in White.
First run through of Silver back in the day that Miltank hard stopped me for quite some time.
I never understood why everyone thought Whitney’s miltank was hard to beat until I replayed gen two without an extremely over leveled typhlosion with rollout
lowkey i beat miltank in crystal with metronome and headbutt. I literally rolled SACRED FIRE... AND IT DID LIKE 2 DAMAGE.
What
i have a name i just blew up a pincone
"you're only option is Gengar" but it is one of those stupid trade evolution so if you cannot trade then you don't even have that option
Dual GBA and duplicate save files of emulators
@@thaiangquoc9505 that is if you're on an emulator rather than a Gameboy or DS
@Levi Wurgler the comment above you got it right.
Or buy another same console but different game
I have a brother and he has his own device so this wasn't a problem lol
I never found Norman tough at all for the slakings. All I needed was protect on anything which usually torkoal got and I just protected on non-truant turns.
Tate and Liza definitely got the cake there for me.
It was tricky for me too due to me having the water starter thinking It'll beat them with just him and then I remember the sun/solarbeam strategy
I had the brilliant idea of doing a mono grass team after gym 2 in scarlet/violet. And then I met Larry's starraptor...
Newbies: "Normal Type Pokemon are the weakest type!"
Me: *Laughs in Whitney and Norman*
Lenora too
Normal types are incredible! Pure Normal types have an immunity to Ghost, just one weakness to Fighting, and massive movepools that would make other Mons jealous. Also plenty of powerhouses are Normal types, Like Snorlax, Zangoose, Kangaskhan and Stoutland, to name a few.
I think normal type is underrated because they seem kinda bland. But in fact they are so good to use in general. I'll do an only normal run anyday. I think I'll enjoy it...
@@cintronproductions9430 Tru. Stoutland
Cheren... need I say more
Mikey: Norman was hard
Me: Haha Combusken go Pew
Mikey: NO!!! You can’t just cheese the hardest gen 3 gym leader!
Me: haha hm slaves go DIG.
Lol my sentiments exactly! Combusken + Double Kick = Easy win. Truant makes it easier.
I grinded so much when I went to Norman’s gym I had a level 50 blazaken
Double team Gardevoir
@@theancientone7798 this one gets it! Double team calm mind psychic fucking demolishes that, hell most gyms.
I travelled a lot as a kid and usually had level 50 Pokémon by the 2nd or 3rd gym by half sleeping and half button mashing in tunnels or penned areas, scyther was always really cool on the tv show I didn’t realize how weak he was, he was always one of the first Pokémon I got and pretty much never left my party, it makes me feel kind of good how as almost all of the kids around me playing Pokémon and the kids you play on Wi-Fi only use or like the legendaries and think of the rest of the Pokémon as an afterthought where my Pokémon are always 20-40 levels past the legendaries when they are available and they are my afterthought, although theirs nothing like getting the perfect breeding rolls and smacking a child with a max speed jolteon using double team and mid to low level attack moves they use in the show while they are using a full team of legendaries with moves I’ve never even heard of but can’t land 😂 that being said though theirs nothing like the feeling of devestation coming across a better breeder and getting wrecked by a marill
I think replace Winona with Juan in Emerald. The Kingdra loves to use double team. Once Kingdra is low, he either uses a potion or rest. Cancelling out its status condition. And it’s evasiveness doesn’t get diminished! I still think Norman is harder. But Juan is most certainly annoying!
I hate that Kingdra. It swept my entire team because I didn't want to use Rayquza since I though it would be cheating. My entire team was in the low 50s when I first fought him. THAT DANG THING KEPT SPAMMING DOUBLE TEAM AND REST! 🤬 i hate that thing
Whitney's Miltank: *uses rollout
My traded Machop: showtime
Is that a refernce to pokemon battle royale?
@@TOG285 ah, i see you're a man of culture too
terminalmontage reference lol
Porygon-Z why aren’t you a phsychic type
?
I remember in Let’s Go Eevee when I saw Sabrina was the next gym. I just looked at my over-leveled new Alolan Persian and smiled with delight.
I just bruit forced my way through Sabrina's gym in my playthoutgh of Leafgreen
I never got to play any of the pokemon games, only fan made ones (being a child sucks sometimes) but I was able to watch Indigo League and X and Y. I remember being terrified of Olympia and Sabrina. Olympia looked intimidating as f*ck and Sabrina freaking turned Misty and Brock into dolls. Of course now, I'm not that scared of them since I know that by the time I challenge them, I'm already so f*cking overpowered that I'll just one shot everything.
@Junaiper Blastoise’s stab moves are insane
I had a level 30 Blastoise and got half the health down on a level 50 pokemon with type advantage
Pikachu beat most of Sabrina's team but I also just sent in blastoice
I remember playing heartgold, and whitney stopped me from making any progress for a few days, despite the fact I got lucky with my totodile being female (so miltank couldnt use attract)
There are couple of ways to beat her so I would lower her accuracy and paralyze her Miltank then wear her out with my other Pokémon then beat her that way. If she uses heal bell, I'll have to reset the game.
Michael: All three still know Volt Switch, and that strategy is still a giant pain.
Me: *Using krokorok were he was immune to volt switch until excadrill*
Me: votes on the polls Michael puts out
Michael: Ah yes, its all coming together...
Oh, that's why you sent out all of those polls. Cool
My reaction as well!
Actually it's quite obvious
My reaction was the same as yours
Wow its so complicated what a plot twist
Naturally
I hated Lenora in my playthrough of white she beat me like three times before I got her while I didn’t really struggle with Elise
I hated how lenora would spam retaliate with her watchog
Opal’s gym battle questions are programmed to ALWAYS receive the stat lowering. One time she ask what’s her age. I answered correctly but she said I was being mean or something and got my stats lowered.
If you said she was 18, your stats would’ve been raised. I know because I’ve experienced both.
@@yorecf9641 bruh
That is wrong.
You should've known to answer 16/18 politely lmao, it's a lady
Just kidding
Everyone: *questioning his choices*
Me: **wondering why dewgong learns signal beam**
This person is asking the real questions.
Guess they just threw it in with Aurora beam
me: wondering why marowak and rhyhorn has lightningrod ability
me: wondering why rotom-fan has levitate ability
@@jayveeberido3521 it can use its own air to float lol
Whitney’s Miltank: “I’m one of toughest Pokémon to beat!”
My Quagsire: “Are you sure about that?”
Also ur quagsire: gets knocked out by rollout
Josue4glx no it doesn’t.
@@josue2662 Do you know how much bulk quagsire has? He's not gonna be dying to a resisted rollout anytime soon.
Yeah Quagsire is more likely to have issues with Morty and his obnoxious sleep strats than anything Whitney could even dream of throwing at it.
My female starter: yea no
For Emerald, I think it was Tate & Liza. Claydol was bulky as heck and you're not taking it down in one shot, so you better survive Earthquake. Trying to outsmart it with Flying types gets them smacked by AncientPower, levitators like Gengar and Weezing go down to Psychic, and if it sets up Light Screen, you lose significant power from Grass and Water moves that you might need later. If you spend time on Claydol, Xatu gets turns to set up Calm Mind then Psychic. Confuse Ray can force you to waste turns hitting yourself, and Sunny Day powers up Solrock. Lunatone and Solrock can be easier, but not easy. Lunatone has Xatu's Calm Mind/Psychic trick, with Hypnosis replacing Confuse Ray, and Light Screen still lowering your special moves. Solrock is just purely Sunny Day/Solarbeam/Flamethrower/ Psychic. If your team has been weakened by the other three, then its coverage will hit pretty much everything, with Flamethrower getting a boost if you dare to use Steel types in a Psychic gym. Their Ace Pokemon are at level 43, ten levels higher than Winona's Altaria, so you will have to do mandatory grinding. Dark types like Absol/Mightyena/Sableye/Crawdaunt are not defensive powerhouses, so they will need to be leveled up significantly to survive hits, and Water types with Ice Beam get stymied by Light Screen and Sunny Day, in addition to having the power of their Surfs cut (because of double-battle mechanic) and still hurting your ally. The Solrock and Lunatone have Sitrus Berry if you can't take them out in one hit, and Hyper Potions (4?) on any Pokémon may cost you the battle (but full healing on Claydol hurts the worst).
Overall very fiendish construction. Nuzlockers, level cap challengers, single Pokemon challenges (with a filler second Pokemon), and no item challengers hate them for good reasons.
i dont think whitneys miltank is that insane, if you caught a geodude at the start of the game she becomes insanely easy, geodude eats miltank for breakfast, you can even use its own strategy against her and rollout on miltank for free, geodude is insanely resistant against miltanks attacks, if you both start using rollout at the same time, geodude wins every time. croconaw also beats it with rage/fury cutter. clefairy however can be pretty bad if your unlucky, it can pull stab explosion and if your using geodude it can use hydropump or something, its pretty trolly.
You can get a female Machop in Goldenrod specifically for her gym, so I don't think she should be classified as "hard" if the game hands you her perfect counter lol
Michael: Greetings Pokefans!
Subtitles: You're Reaching For Pens!
It only works for auto generated
Once for me it was "Your reaching the crappy fans! (or greetings you stinky fans
It did not work
@@videomakermiller8188 You have to do at 0:00 and they have to be Auto Generated
Who also checked
Me training Shedinja specifically to deal with Norman's Linoone in Emerald: "They called me a madman."
or just... evolve a nincada?
Fun fact, I had a Shedinja in Alpha Sapphire and he literally took down Norman's gym by itself. Didn't even notice that at first... guess I've been lucky or they were unprepared lol
I let my kids play the game for me when I was focused elsewhere I went in with my team nearly level 50 because they weren't looking for gyms but just battling for hours for a few weeks losing interest and walking away a lot some times
lmao
@@LordRemiem
I also found Norman really easy in Omega Ruby. Not for any reason in particular, he just wasn't that hard
man coming back to this video was a blast form the past keep it up
I would say they clear as the toughest because there is one answer to Whitney's Milton it's called use dig every time you use dig it will stop her increasingly tough roll out
Are there any gen 2 pokemon pre-Goldenrod that learn Dig before or at level 20?
@@ohmeohmicah you can pick up the TM for Dig in the National Park just north of Goldenrod. There are plenty of Pokémon available at that point that can be taught it.
You knew this was coming after seeing those polls almost daily
Video idea: who's the best gym leaders of each type
Owen Critchell I bet you $1000000000000 piers is the best dark leader
I’ll give $1000000000000000000000 if it isn’t piers
Norman vs whitney
Flannery vs blaine
Roxanne vs Gordie vs Brock vs Roark
I love how the two gym leaders that were narrowed down for Gen 2 both cry or get pissed off if they lose the fight.
Torkoal with protect and curse: I’m bout to end this man whole career
“Nanu was hard”
*Laughs in Primarina*
Kim Nichols wait is nanu dark or ghost?
@@jaivangordon5966 dark
Oh.
Laughs in incineroar’s resistance
i used decidueye and it was easy
Allister's Japanese name is Onion.
She looks like an onion
@@gxdml__ *he
Lol
R34: interesting
@@thegreatdragonemperor2209 what? There is no way
Playing a nozloc grabs a geodude and heads into Whitney’s gym “for give me little one it is your time” geodude used self destruct
Kabu was surprisingly one of the harder gym leaders despite the fact that I chose Sobble.
Yeah. His pokemon are mid twenties but all fully evolved while the players pokemon aren't fully evolved. But it's not really a challenge for me actually. I went with non-fully evolved pokemon (or some fully evolved by mid twenties) that have good base stat totals and type advantages and I still defeated Kabu.
He's especially annoying since I only had 1 special attacker
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But what really makes Norman difficult..... *is that he's your father*
You beat me in a Gym battle! No dessert for two weeks!
Toughest Emotional battle
I am your father, luke
... (hiding my sceptile)
Poor May, she's the only main protag to get a dad, and all he wants to do is beat the ever living crap out of her Pokémon
Everyone: oh my god! Norman is so difficult!
Me: laughs in blaziken
Cries in Tate and Liza
@@anotherhetalian8499 laughs in calm mind and shadowball gardevoir
LoL
Laughs in Breloom
@@anotherhetalian8499 I really know your pain. When i was playing in Emerald I really had problems on them. And also they got buff in emerald ._.
another thing that can make sabrina easier (at least in FRLG) is that you don't have to fight her until you've already beaten both Koga and Blaine (I haven't checked to see if you can fight Giovanni first), by the time you get past Blaine, your pokemon are probably high enough level to take on Sabrina.
Ya she’s only difficult in red blue yellow
In one of my playthroughs of Platinum i actually had Torterrra before facing Fantina. I went a bit overkill in that playthrough. This is similar to when I had a Feraligatr before fighting Whitney in a Soul Silver playthrough and completely destroyed her Miltank.
Michael: And Miltank had the rudest move set ever.
Me: You can see Mikeys passionate about this.
"In Platinum, Fantina is even harder, for the same reason Whitney is hard"
me who rushed through the gym and beat her entire team with only Fire moves: "repeat that. w a t"
From my memory, Jaiden sweeped her with no deaths in her Nuzlocke in Platinum.
@@HUMANIA_THE_BALL she had super effective moves, i didn't get a super effective move until Pastoria cuz i was stubborn and wanted a Gallade, not a Gardevoir
For Gen 3 Kanto here's what I would recommend for Sabrina.
#1. Use the Magnemite line. It's the only Steel type you'll have acess to and you can catch one before you fight Sabrina. Steel resists Psychic so you'll at least have a defensive advantage against her.
#2. Use Jolteon, but don't evolve it until level 30. At level 30 Eevee learns bite, a dark move that in Gen 3 is special. Jolteon has high special attack and speed so it having access to a dark move and having high speed means you might go first with it and if you're lucky Bite might make Alaksam flinch a few times.
For Whitney my best strategy is using smoke screen on her Miltank if you picked Cyniquill as a starter. Hit her with as many smoke screens as you can to lower her accuracy as much as you can.
I'd say Snorlax is the best Sabrina counter in FRLG. Huge HP and special defense with access to a physical Shadow Ball that her Pokemon can't defend against with Calm Mind spams. Also, Bite is so weak that a STAB Thunderbolt will do more damage off of Jolteon than Bite will.
Gen 1: getting berated by a ghost which who can see into the future with dangerous monsters😮
Gen 2: getting destroyed by a pink haired tween with a cow that has sausage nipples 😂
I knew that Whitney’s mil tank was horrible, so I grinded my cyndaquil to a typhlosion at the third gym
Same here. I trained my Totodile like a mad man. So when I reached her gym, it already evolved to Feraligatr lol. I also had Nidorino with double kick as a back up plan.
For me it never was and I used cyndaquil as well
That was completely not necessary but okay, I beat it easily with just a lv 26 Quilava
The tables have turned
To defeat her I used my quilava and spamed smokescreen and started ataking, thats it
Caption: "You're reaching for the pen. Michael here."
Me who is actually reaching for the pen: who told you?
Wait what
@@ROYEWITHNOE auto captions
Linder Montejo i know
I always thought Sabrina was extremely easy. You just needed anything that knew Bodyslam, Rockslide, Earthquake, or Mega Punch other than Nidoqueen. Or a Charizard with Slash. Or a slightly overleveld Pidgeor or Fearow. Or just solo the game with your starter. You had a lot of options.
Misty and Koga were much more difficult.
25:25 Maybe an unpopular opinion, but in sword, I think gordie is on par with Raihan difficulty wise. In my nuzlocke of Pokémon sword, gordie killed my boltund, Linoone, and grimmsnarl with just his barbaracle using razor shell. That thing, at least for me, has always been a total beast. Btw I used boltund against it because I had taught it a grass move that I though would OHKO it. The other two I used to try to brute force.
Michael"her Clefairy is a pushover"
I have bad memories of that Clefairy. One it's metronome got TRANSFORM and I to battle not a Clefairy, but a QUILAVA
I- I‘m laughing at you so hard right now-
I‘M SORRY
It got rock wrecker against my quilava once, had no clue that was a move before that, will never forget it afterwards.
If it make you feel better, metronome rolled against Machop, Onix, Geodude, Qulava (all female) Psychic, Giga Drain, Maganatude (10!) and then, Hydro Cannon
Ishaan Aditya Chaudhry how did you get a Zapdos so early?
Once for me it’s metronome turned into FREAKING AEROBLAST!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
„Three words: Whitney. Miltank. Rollout“ - Nathaniel Bandy
I think you are on the wrong video buddy -_-
Me - thank you heracross(heartgold)
Yes
And I have two words miltank SUCKS
The Plasma Warrior true
From my experiences, yes Whitney is a pain. She was the first time my brother had to run to me for help in Pokémon and we planned for days on how we were going to fight her. Most of the time it didn’t work but we tried our best.
Next for gen 5, I don’t remember struggling with the electric one even though I picked oshawott. I think the one I struggled with the most was the normal gym due and the dragon one. Both pretty obvious tho I wanna know why you put the first gym on the list for the vote
And then there is gen 4. I don’t remember which I struggled with as a kid when I first played it, but my recent play through I only really struggled with the ice gym.
All the other gyms in other game I remember being pretty easy and kinda push overs
whitney is way easier then people realise
just use self destruct with graveler and miltank dies instantly
Turn it into a golem because mandjtv accidently said that miltank has higher bst than golem.It's the complete opposite.
giga brain
You don’t even need a graveler. A level 18 geodude with rock smash and magnitude completely wall her miltank.
It made me so happy when he said Normal-type leaders are so hard, cause I’m a Normal-type specialist (with the exception of any given starter) and I organize Gym Battles with my friends. However, I hardly ever get taken seriously as a battler since I use the most “sub-par” type available. Glad to see someone taking Normal-type trainers seriously ^-^
I know someone who is a normal type specialist
Normal type is one of my favourite types because they are surprisingly tanky and tend to be quite versatile...
Cillian Stewart Thats why I use a Snorlax with a certain move set I’ve pre-calculated many times. It makes it my 2nd strongest Pokémon and a total troll in battles.
Freezing Glaceon it doesn't matter what is your type-specialty what matters is the skill and the team
Freezing Glaceon i know type specialty doesn’t say you’re weak the ice type is bad defensively but good offensively
In Ruby I struggled with Norman.
I’m pretty sure EVERYONE struggles with Norman. Even with a Fighting-Type, I had to WORK to beat that guy. EVERY time, in EVERY game.
@@zacharyjoy8724 I can beat Norman in 5 seconds with a level 1 ratata with focus sash, endeavour and quick attack.
@@achyuththouta6957 actively preparing that way, yes. Randomly running into him, nah. Also, is there a reliable way to get that many focus sashes in game?
@@TechnoArpan Rattata isn’t even in Hoenn. Focus Sash also didn’t exist in Gen 3 and the only way to get them in ORAS is at the Battle Maison after you’re done with the Delta Episode.
I know that everybody else has trouble with Sabrina, but every time I've gone up against her(though I've only played yellow) it's been fairly easy. I just had Charizard use slash. Also, they were around level 40 then, so I did have a level disadvantage.
Yup, Sabrina was everyone's nightmare in red, blue and yellow. And on top of that, Blue had a lv 59 alakazam when you fought him to become the champion.
Atleast u have a fully evolved team when u reach elite4
@@flare3877 Yeah, one has to try to finish that Alakazam as fast as possible with high-damage attacks, like solar beam for example.
Well good thing that Alakazam doesn't have Calm Mind
i found blues alakazam harder to beat than sabrinas
@@flare3877 I’m playing through red for the first time on virtual console and I’m stuck with a Kadabra since I don’t have anyone to trade with
Michael: Slaking is tough to beat!
Me: *laughs in pokemon that knows protect*
Me: *Laughs in pokemon that knows Dig*
@@knakferno3180 hadn't really thought about that one
The Shiny Arcaninehunter me: laughs in Pokémon who knows fly
Jelbe Cornelis you don’t have fly at that point of the game
R0cky505 oh, sorry
Red:what do I do
duwgong:I have signal beam
Red:why?
Duwgong: I do not know
Duwgong: Don't ask me
I'm curious which gen 9 gym leader would make this list and if it would be limited to just Gym Leaders or all the major boss battles since they all give you badges.
Personally I think Iono if it was limited to just gym leaders since a Mismagius with no weaknesses is kinda scary that early and the other gym leaders where kinda easy unless you went in really underleveled.
If other battles could be included I think it would be Eri. That chick's team is terrifying.
Team star in general with their cars is tough
Larry would make it here most likely. His Staraptor with Facade boosted Tera is a monster.
Talks about fantina.
Me: Remembering the Regenade Platinum game. "I agree."
will o wisp is SO annoying
not to mention Mismagius's Psybeam
Whats a regenade?
@@natsudragneel188 an xtremely difficult platinum rom hack
Oof this was annoying, I'm trying to shinylocke on the 1/512 version and I'm past Wake with a single Rapidash 😂
Yo when I was younger I never finished the game because I got sad and quit...
there are 8 gens, imagine a region with all these gym leaders
Unova
Oh my god🤔🤔🤔🤔☹️
That would be like an MMORPG. It would be great if we got it but I can’t see nintendo ever doing that.
@@UnclePhil1112 i said imagine not do it
Alola without gyms:
I never knew Norman was so tough. In Pokémon Emerald I was able to beat his team easily with a Double Kicking Combusken.
Protect on a Pelipper, Slaking was completely neutralised
My experience with Whitney was terrible not only for the miltank, but also for an absurd luck for her Clefairy.
After being decimated by Miltank (By Rollout and Stomp-Flinch) a couple of times i decided to take the in-game trade Machop (usualy i never like using in-game trades).
With a fighting pokemon in the team i was confident, but then "Clefairy use Metronome... PSYCHIC!!", Machop KO, then again Stomp-flich + Rollout KO the others...
2nd try with Machop and 4th total "Clefairy use Metronome... AEROBLAST... it's a critical hit"
For the 5th try I thought "ok again with machop... and Clefairy can't be so luck to find again a supereffective move against machop with metronome!"
So i used it again and "Clefairy use Metronome... FISSURE... It's a One-Hit KO" ...... ARE U FU**ING KIDDING ME!?!?!
“Raihan is the strongest Galar gym leader”
Me who litteraly demolished his team:
👁👄👁
Same i one shotted the whole team using cinderace and inteleon
Same I ohkod his entire team
I think "strongest" is relative here.
Bea should've gotten the title of the strongest Sword gym leader
I ohkod all the gym leaders. I NEVER LOST...
I feel Morty deserves at least a shout-out with that whole Gengar Dream Eater combo
Wubba lubba dub dub
Chuck loves using Hypnosis Focus Punch combo...
@@davyt0247 Ooh that one too, now that I think about it HGSS gym leaders loved combos
Caleb S they sure did. I had to use Haunter to beat Chuck. I actually lost the first time I fought Chuck, had Kadabra and Pigyotto, but focus punch kept landing crits, that attack also hits like a truck!
EDUARDO HERNANDEZ-MEDINA no
As someone who was doing an emerald nuzlocke and nearly had their starter get one-shotted by Norman’s slaking, I agree with Norman being the toughest Hoenn gym leader.
He's real tough unless you cheese him with Protect every other turn with a Torkoal or Dustox
Don't forget that in gen 3 ghost type moves are physical and the only pokemon that gains STAB from them (Gengar) has 65 in the Attack stat. Your best option for sabrina would probably be Snorlax with Shadow Ball at that point.
Last time I beat her in LG, I just used Dodrio with Return. Even when level matched with her Alakazam at level 43, it out sped and OHKO’d.
“But then you notice their levels.”
“That escalated quickly. I mean that really got out of hands fast...”
"Fantina was extra difficult in Platinum!"
*looks at my team with 4 biters*
Fantina was surprisingly easy for me. My monferno was able to one shot them and it only took me 4 hours to get from Twin leaf to Heartfeald. At the same time though all of the hidden items helped a lot.
Fantina wasn’t a challenge for me because my gabite knew bite and together with its good attack stat swept through her team
@@ps4pro668 my gabite, grotle and luxio knew bite🤡
You could have a fully evolved Crobat at that point if you wanted to
"You most likely don't have a fully evolved Pokémon by this point!"
*looks at my Crobat with Bite*
Lol can't believe I found this video a few hours after fighting Whitney in my first ever HeartGold playthrough. Had NOOO idea she was this difficult going into the fight, very glad to now see I wasn't just completely trash at pokemon. After nearly whiting out multiple times (thank GOD I bought some revival herbs) I ended up yawning with togepi before dragon raging multiple times with dratini for enough garunteed damage to win. That battle was a shock to my system.
I wasn't prepared for raihans double battle but it didn't matter because my Arcanine and mudsdale duo absolutely demolished his entire team without taking much damage (primarily sandstorm damage on Arcanine)
I also have fond memories of an Azumarill wiping the floor with Norman
Michael: “Whitney is why I hate Miltank so much.”
MBF S1 Viewers: “What about the Aura Gaurdian?”
*CURRENT MOOD*
lol
i literally was about to post the same comment
😂😂😂
Just to let yall know, miltank is faster than rayquaza
I’m surprised Clay isn’t on this list. He’s known as the locke-killer by a lot of challenge run creators
Easy to counter him tbh. A solid grass or water type can deal with him well, and if you have a good fighting type, Excadrill is easy
@@nickolasbittar5843 Still isn't that much of a cakewalk. If you're playing on set mode, good luck getting your fighting type to survive on the switch.
Lenoras watchhog is evil, it knows RETALIATE
@@unevennoble9363 so does Norman's Pokemon
@@huntman0883 There's slight difference between Lenora and Norman that make Lenora harder than Norman..
Here is the ACTUAL HARDEST(the remake is the same unless I mention it.)
Red/Blue-Sabrina
Gold/Silver-Whitney
Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald-Norman
DP/Platinum-Fantina
BW-Elesa
BW2-Clay
XY-Grant
SM-Nanu
USUM-Nanu
SwSh-Raihan
I have no clue about Paldea, but from what I've seen Larry's my favorite. Idk about hardest though. If you disagree with any of these then comment.
In HGSS, there are a lot more move options to choose, and Heracross can learn Brick Break at level 19, and this can easily kill Whitney's Clefairy and fight Milktank fairly well (And the traded machop still a good option for sure)
THERE SHOULD BE ONLY ONE K IN MILTANK!
People: We think that Elesa is the hardest BW gym leader
Me, who lost to Lenora 78 times in 5 playthroughs: you WHAT?
Edit: Lenora might open with Leer instead of retaliate or hypnosis which can make the battle easy as pie. But when she murders you in a turn or puts you to sleep you're in for a big trouble
Ameno Ameno Latire Who did you choose? I chose Snivy, by then a Servine, and if you teach it Leach Seed, battle is super easy
I didn’t really have any problems with any of the gym leaders in BW personally. I just used krokorok and used rock slide
I want to kill her Emolga 😭
Elesa was lretty easy for me as I had my Krokorok spamming Bite and Rocl tomb against the Emolga...
I agree all the way the fighting types unless u evolved tepig were bad