Bauer Advantedge Hockey Skate Sharpener review - Part 1
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Prosharp Bauer Advantedge Skate Sharpener review part 1
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Sounds like Sparx Gen 2 is still the best bang for your buck. Glad there’s some competition though to keep both companies honest.
Great first impression. I'll watch part 2 anyhow, but the info on the calibration process was all I really needed to see/hear. Same for the lack of filter and dust management. At that price point it sure seems to be missing some important features.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
It's so wild how much these things cost still. Milwaukee or DeWalt could make a compact portable sharpener that runs on power tool batteries with the highest quality motors in the world and sell them for $399 easily, including a battery. I sharpen my skates by hand with a Milwaukee M12 cordless rotary tool with a half inch stone ball attachment and my edges are always good. Takes time and practice, but I'm into that whole setup for $60 and the whole thing fits in my pocket. I have enough stone grinders to sharpen my skates every 2-4 weeks for the next 10 years for $60.
Wow! You really need to create a video showing how you do that.
this is the wildest thing I have read about skate sharpening and I now want to see a video!
Great review! I've been using this sharpener for a week now and the flaw you mentionned about the adjustement bugged the heck out of me at first. I did use about 10 % of the ring usage simply by resharpening everytime like you metionned before getting it right. Mine was off center from the factory. One thing I can mention, if you remove to bottom tray, there is mopre room to work in the machine. I have bigger than normal hands and i had enough room with it removed to work in there. I was also not able to use the app because it does not work on android at the moment... Another fail for me but I certainly hope the app will help on that side. As for sharpening, it works amazing!!! I had the rink pro shop staff verify the sharpen and he was quite impressed by it! If the small and larger flaws can be fixed by software this is an amazing machine!
Thank you! I really appreciate the feedback! comments on removing the tray are a great suggestion for more space. Cheers Patrik !
Thank you for making this video. I've sharpened hundreds of pairs of skates on my sparx gen 2, and was curious about this unit when I heard about it. Good first impression video, very informative.
Thank you. !
I'm a Bauer guy, but I think I'll stick to Sparx for now.
Bauer got good ideas, but they need to improve this sharpener.
Yeah the bauer skate sharperner is kinnda mid
Oh and thank you for highlighting all the negatives and operational drawbacks! Great video as always
great breakdown. thanks for the first look. looking forward to more vids about this machine!
Thanks for the honest insight. I was curious about this, but after the downfalls mentioned here it was an easy pass for me.
Glad I could help
Thanks so much for your video I bought the sparx gen 3. For Christmas last year. I am enjoying every thing about my sparx.
I really had some high hopes for this. Would have considered switching from Sparx 2 to Bauer if it had, 1) ease of use (this doesn’t appear to be simple to use) 2) a profile option (nope) and 3) an app/screen that automatically calibrates multiple sets of skates based on personalized settings such as Kid 1 right skate, Kid 1 left skate, Kid 2 right skate, etc (a large wish but no again). Going to stick with my sparx gen 2 quite a while longer it seems.
I'll disagree, I have the original prosharp machine, I and I think it's better.. easy to use, wheel last 1000 cuts, vs 60 cuts for sparx.
Thanks for the video and comparison. Sparx is by far the more superior machine.
I will disagree, I personally have a prosharp and we have friends who have the sparx.. prosharp is simple fast and the wheel last a very long time
Thanks for watching
Nothing beats a blade master and a good operator!
Great review, thanks!
To be honest the calibration doesn't seem that bad.
I wonder if the larger wheel produces and better sharpen vs the Sparx.
I am also interested to know if the auto height adjust produces better results.
There is a vacuum (President Hoover?) Port on the left end cap.
Wow Bauer being Bauer again…
Enjoying these recent videos, this is a great comparison of something that's totally in demand right now.
Would still love to see some tutorials for people getting into the game, I'll be a lot of your fans are aspiring players who need the basics as much as the details.
You are totally right and we’ve been talking internally about re-making needed tutorials and guides. I hear you and we WILL address this.
At the end of the day.. we’re called HockeyTutorial right!? It’s like you’re inside my head 😀🥹 tutorials are coming ! What do you need first ?
Was hoping Bauer’s new unit would offer profiling to differentiate from the current Sparx model.
Profiling adds a huge layer of complexity to the machine. Pro-sharp's machine that profiles is way (WAY) more expensive. These machines are for skaters who want to sharpen, not professionals who want an affordable machine.
Not to mention needing all the templates for the various profile shapes and runner sizes.
hmm sounds like they have some kinks to work out before its going to compete with Sparx. My only complaint with Sparx is the "sparx toe" I wish it would do a full cut so I don't have to take it to a shop once a year for a traditional stone sharpening
Bro, use a dremel or a file. Only 1-2 minutes work.
@@ledlightskate8189 that’s just another tool I have to buy. And a waste of time it’s silly that they can’t make their machine do the whole blade. That is my only complaint and my solution right now is once a year before the season starts I take it to the local pro shop and have them do it with an actual wissota machine.
Great video! Easy of machine adjustment is everything and making things less complicated (like manually locking the skate in place) just makes tons of sense...its their Gen1 unit so we knew there would be mistakes, but they had 2-3 generations of Sparx machines to compare to and they still chose to release this with the issues is just strange...full disclosure i'm a happy Sparx owner, but the more players in this portable skate sharpener space = competition = better products and faster innovation...
Has there been an updated video?
This is good stuff . Competition will bring better products
it is good to have competition in the field of skate sharpeners. in the end the consumers will win.
You're not wrong!
Would love to see a review of there new fit lab, especially there new insoles. Me and a mate had to get a friend in the us to buy the insoles and re post to aus as they wont sell outside canada or us and there amazing better then superfeet.
I need to find a store that has one for me to review... Back to Sweden we go lol
Not played hockey since I was a teenager, over 35 years ago. I miss it badly still. Can't risk broken bones for work.
Play no contact bud. Don’t miss out !
Bauer seems to be selling things based on their name only. Most of their products are just not first tier hockey equipment company calibre
Sparx or Bauer, who's going to be the first to incorporate profiling (cag one) into these sharpeners???? Wonder why they haven't done it already
Could you and Tommy compare the new Tracer to the FT7 Pro!?
Once we buy one. Yes !
With a simple laser alignment then it can make calibration automatic
8 mins in and I know all I need to know that I’m not switching from Sparx
One thing I noticed with my Sparx is, it doesn't seam to hold an edge as long as a traditional sharpener
That’s not my experience. My skates hold their edge just as long lol
What hollow are you running on your sparx? I run a shallower hollow than my local pro shop, and I just sharpen more often. Also... if you own a sharpener, you should never "Need" a sharpening. Keep your skates correct. If you notice you need a sharpening, you waited too long.
Sounds like a failure to me. I was hoping someone would give Sparx a run for their money here to maybe drive down some costs, but this ain't it.
What I got:
Looks cool
More money
Heavier and larger
Going to be messy
Not as portable
Pain in the ass to load a skate
Pain in the ass to change a stone
Pain in the ass to calibrate
No flat bottom V
Hopefully they recognize all these flops and the V2 is a real contender
add sparx’s other features that you can remove the base and clean it sonewhere (backyard) away from the house using air gun, height of the grinding wheel adjustability, and with the pro base, the quick access glass door are other things Bauer needs to be better at as well. I’m using Gen 3 sparx Pro. Me and son are skating 3-4 times a week
In Canada both the Sparx and the Prosharp Bauer or 1 150$
This was an awesome breakdown, super informative. Quite a shame that Bauer (as usual) put that much effort into the looks but overall accessibility and adjustments are a complete surgery… Lol
Clearly said already, this Bauer machine can’t settle the alignment and they expect customers to trail and error?!
This machine is not yet ready to be launched at all.
Forget it.
That’s a nice first look. You are obviously not keen on this. I love that when you show a machine with a skate in it, it’s a True skate! Eat that Bauer. 🤣 I have a Sparx mark 1, fantastic.
lmao !!! love this comment :D
You would think Bauer/Prosharp would’ve studied the Sparx and made it better. They totally missed the mark on this one.
Sparx studied the older Prosharp skatepal units and copied its self centering clamp.
Then used Prosharps diamond dust wheel abrasive design too.
But added a chip in the sparx wheel to milk the profits off the discs.
Ie classic razor blade inkjet cartridge model.
So they sell the cool spark unit at cost and ride the disc sales.
The older Prosharp units with a self centering clamp go back 2 plus decades and are very robust.
Spark created a plastic low cost version to sell discs.
The Spark designs beautifully made a cool cheap unit to sell discs.
The old prosharp units with the 100mm diamond disc will sharpen 500 to 1000 pairs of skates at a fraction of the cost of the Sparks discs.
More expensive and no profiles which is what I think of when I think of Pro Sharp. Don’t see the benefits of this over Sparx. Seems like a totally botched opportunity from Bauer.
The comment about the hollow offerings was one I noticed as well looking at the website. Seems like a strong push to 1”+ hollows with minimal rings offered below that
So Bauer bought a Sparx machine and slapped their own logo on it?
You didn’t watch the video did you?
@@StillAliveAndKicking_ I won’t let my skates anywhere near a sparx machine- why would I waste my time watching this video?
@@StillAliveAndKicking_ my last comment was kinda douchey… I am a huge fan of doing things the right way- I grew up less than an hour drive from over two dozen rinks and had never even heard of a sparx machine until I moved to the south. I had the same guy sharpen my skates for 25 years when I lived up north, now I get them sharpened by the equipment manager of the Knoxville Ice Bears 🤷♂️
@@dalastbmills The two machines are quite different, except in that both are automatic machines and use diamond coated grinding wheels. As for doing things properly, I sharpen my skates each week, one pass on a Sparx. The sharpen is excellent, the profile maintained, edges perfectly level. Manual sharpeners take off more metal, cost more, you have to travel to them, and they change the profile with time. I prefer to do things properly.
This channel bashes Bauer so harshly sometimes.
Whats the expected lifespan of the rings compared to a Sparx ring?
~75 sharpenings vs 50-60 from Sparx. Rings are the same price ($70)
Is this new one using the same wheel of old prosharp Home? or inter-changeable ?
From what I can see, yes.
Instead of buying Pro Sharp, they should have done a deal with Sparx. Or at least poached some of the Sparx personnel.
No dust management is so bad. Just like you go to toilet but you can’t flush it. 😂😂
LMAO!
Old School Skate Sharpener / Tool Maker Skilled Trades
DO NOT USE A home vacuum on any skate sharpening setup, the fine filings can (will) catch on fire inside the vacuum, probably later when you are not around, and burn your house down. A captured spark can set the fine filings on fire.
Just use a sacrificial shop vacuum? Or just empty the vac immediately?
@@DeanKlemick I personally knew a guy who used a shop vac as his dust collection while sharpening skates, it caught on fire after the fact, (sharpening), started his porch/house on fire. My comment was directed at the OP, who advocated “attach a hoover (vacuum)” to the machine he was reviewing. Don’t do it! There is a reason industrial vacuums are “industrial”. Just sayin’ …
You use a Hepa filter on the vacuum
Haven't watched the whole video yet, but when you think of Prosharp you think of profiling.
Defo no profiling :/
From what I’ve seen so far, the ring selection is just unacceptable. Like Chris mentioned, no 7/16, I use 11/16 and that’s not an option and FBV users out of luck too? I’m a huge Bauer guy, but over the last few years they have really just offered such little customization with their products as opposed to the other brands.
Bauer botched this product, who would have thought LOL. Not sure how you miss on so many pointers, all they had to do was take the Sparx 2 and improve on it and also just get some feedback from people like Hockey Tutorial and their acquaintances. Good job Bauer LOL
Even as a Bauer guy (their stuff fits me better than most brands), I think Bauer needs to really improve this sharpener.
First impression: Im sticking with Sparx.
Bauer should have made it better then sparx for a cheaper price not worse then sparx and more expensive
Your great but you missed the biggest point! Sparx just grinds your blade. After say 12 sharpens your special 3 or 4 part radius cut is gone! This new machine makes that first pass reading the blade radius so when you sharpen your blade the radius is retained.
This just isnt true. If someone who’s had a Sparks since day one, I can unequivocally guarantee the Sparks maintains your profile.
@@jasoncowger5326 Profile yes but radius no
Sounds like a big expensive pain in the ass.