There were so many great fighters in that era, add Foreman, Norton, Shavers, Holmes, then came Hollyfield, Morrison, Lewis, Tyson. The second tier of fighters after all those were better than the heavyweights today.
The talent level of today's heavyweights...IS just NOT there...IF u r a BIG young athlete --.there r so many more SAFERS..WAYS 2 make a living in sports....BOXING is NOT ONE of THEM....Most likely wind up alot of brain damage and NO MONEY
Look at all the haters here making excuses, just like they did when Marciano beat an 'old' Archie Moore but were deafeningly silent when (then) Cassius Clay defeated the same Moore seven-years later. Gee, now why is that? They're usually the same ones who believe that Tyson Fury cheated against Deontay Wilder, the same ones who think Wilder should've won their first fight. Nothing but pathetic excuses and debunked conspiracy theories.
No he wasn't.. Shavers was washed up when he fought Cooney and all Cooney's fight were hand picked for the media build-up, when he fought Holmes you could see was nothing more than a sparring mate to Holmes.
If anything Cooney was over rated. He fought 25 bums and has beens and was then thrown in there with Larry Holmes in his prime (one of the greatest heavyweight champs ever) and got his ass kicked. He was then thrown in with Michael Spinks (a great light heavyweight champ but a much smaller man who he should have crushed) and got his ass kicked again. Then they put him in with an older George Foreman who starched him in two. So think about it.. the three real fighters he was matched with knocked him out. I'm sure he was paid well for those fights. Hope he saved his money.
That liver shot would have taken out any boxer who ever lived. Perfect placement and completely unprotected. A flush liver shot like that and nobodys getting up.
@@tonymyers7498 Lyle was better , but here he was already very old. Larry Holmes made Cooney look an amateur and Foreman almost killed him. In his prime he was a very strong fella thoug!
Foreman said that Lyle and Cooney were the two biggest punchers he had fought along with Cleveland Williams (who was his sparring partner). Just watched the Quarry fight against Lyle. He also felt that it was worth attacking Lyle's body. Great fights. Great boxers.
@@mikebockey4125 Ron threw 4 -5 punches with no power or bad intent. The year 1979 marked a decline in Lyle's abilities. Draws with fringe contenders Stan Ward and Scott LeDoux were followed by a stunning one-punch loss to unheard-of Lynn Ball. The Ring magazine quoted Lyle as saying afterwards "No one does that to me." He would return to the ring, however, but not for long. Ron retired again after a first-round knockout loss to then-rising star and undefeated power-hitting Gerry Cooney. By then, Lyle was 39 years old and his best years had gone
@@jb-vb8un, all of that is information about lyle’s record. has no bearing on his being paid to take a dive. i’m not saying it isn’t possible but i don’t conjecture anything like that without rock solid evidence. i’d be more inclined to think that liston took a dive and i’m not even buying that until someone who was there says so.
Reports after the fight that Lyle had his ribs caved in seem exaggerated given that after the fight he was giving an interview, with one of his children in his arms IIRC.
Lyle went toe to toe with the monster puncher Ernie Shavers. At one point, Shavers knocked Lyle down with a left hook, and Lyle looked unconscious. Somehow, Lyle came back and knocked out Shavers. Yet here he looked totally ineffective against Cooney. He was older here. Also, he’d been in wars against Shavers, Foreman, and others. Maybe his body just was saying enough already. Maybe he wasn’t in shape. Maybe those are the reasons. Someone here said he was paid to take a dive. I don’t know. He just never seemed in the fight, which is unusual for him.
After fighting so many power punchers in his career, it's obvious that at some point the body is not gonna be able to take it anymore. Lyle was definitely worn down from previous fights with big power punchers, the body just couldn't keep up anymore.
JC fought too many fighters past their prime. RL could not defend himself or throw a punch, obviously too old. JC hits hard when he is hitting a stationary target.
He did train, hard. Larry just had more skill. The fight was about even when Holmes won. Even Larry has since said many times Gerry was a good fighter.
Cooney fought a total of 53 seconds of 1 round the two years leading up to the fight. He was the golden white goose that they protected and sat on, waiting for the big pay day. to hatch.
Cooney was rising as Ali was on his way out. Cooney got a shot at Holnes which gave rise to the great white hope mantra in the 80s. Holmes was disrespected and even had to walk out first. Which a champion should never have to do. And then he preceded to.beat the s#it out of Cooney. He could have taken him out at any time. But he took his pound of flesh
@@TheRDW710 So not true. Cooney made the mistake of trying to save strength for long fight. Even Holmes admitted he thought Cooney should have had him in the fourth round as he was hurt.
@@TheRDW710 Holmes vs Cooney was a war what are you talking about? Be an honest man, not bias for an agenda. Larry is one of my favourite fighters but I’m honest. It was a war and both fighters are great and championship level.
Cooney was such a waste of life. Terrific punching power with the left hand but that was it. Unfortunately for him he was too stupid to develop his talent properly and as a result he wasted his career.
George Foreman, Earnie Shavers, Ron Lyle, Gerry Cooney.
What a f'king crazy era to such insane heavy hitters.
Jerry Quarry.
Lyle was old here...
No Man can take a Liver punch that hard and those many Times... Amazing Power by Jerry Cooney... Respect Ron Lyle
Ron is old .15 years difference!
That body punch knock lyle through ropes.
@@maximilianogabriel9982 Yeah, but we'll just ignore that part...,)
Exactly right. Right on the liver multiple times.
@@maximilianogabriel9982Yeah. And he had courage to face one of the hardest punchers ever: Cooney. I respect Lyle for that.
There were so many great fighters in that era, add Foreman, Norton, Shavers, Holmes, then came Hollyfield, Morrison, Lewis, Tyson. The second tier of fighters after all those were better than the heavyweights today.
The talent level of today's heavyweights...IS just NOT there...IF u r a BIG young athlete --.there r so many more SAFERS..WAYS 2 make a living in sports....BOXING is NOT ONE of THEM....Most likely wind up alot of brain damage and NO MONEY
@@stephenshea8168 Depends. Try to pick someone you know you can beat. That's basically the cheap strategy nowadays anyway lol
Foreman said on David Letterman the hardest punchers he ever fought were these two guys Lyle and Cooney.
And George had a diamond chin.
And Cleveland Williams.
Yes he did
@@Yogiholic Foreman never fought Williams. He did spar with him though.
Foreman was sonny listons sparring partner. Foreman said he was careful not to make sonny mad.
That last left hook to the body was devastating. You can even hear how loud it was.
Lyle’s liver basically exploded.
Lyle was up in age here,and also a shot fighter. Cooney was an up and comer who could bang.
If you could convert "punching power" of both these men to electricity you could light up a large city
how?
Look at all the haters here making excuses, just like they did when Marciano beat an 'old' Archie Moore but were deafeningly silent when (then) Cassius Clay defeated the same Moore seven-years later. Gee, now why is that? They're usually the same ones who believe that Tyson Fury cheated against Deontay Wilder, the same ones who think Wilder should've won their first fight. Nothing but pathetic excuses and debunked conspiracy theories.
Lyle was an old shot figher at that time. Denying it is just lying. Nobody considers Ali's win over Moore a great win. Another lie.
True!
Cooney is so underrated
So glad the announcer informed us that Gerry Cooney was in the white trunks, I was confused for a while.
@gargantuaism
Yes. And Lyle was in the red trunks if further clarification is needed.
@@hyena131 Thanks for clearing that up
@@gargantuaism
You're welcome. I was all kinds of confused before the commentator spelled everything out.
Yeah. They look so much alike
From looking at this fight, you would’ve never thought that Lyle actually dropped Forenan in a previous fight.
he did better against foreman then Cooney
Love the way Cooney goes to the body.
body punchers are a very rare breed. All boxers are head hunters
Liver shots like that are devastating.but are easy to block and you have to get in close to throw them so you expose yourself to counters..
Cooney is very underrated today but was a force to be reckoned with in his day.
Tommy Morrison could destroy.him,👈
@@maximilianogabriel9982 unfortunately, both Cooney and Morrison were beat by demons outside of the ring, from their own addictions
No he wasn't.. Shavers was washed up when he fought Cooney and all Cooney's fight were hand picked for the media build-up, when he fought Holmes you could see was nothing more than a sparring mate to Holmes.
You cant be serious,,,,Cooney underrated
If anything Cooney was over rated. He fought 25 bums and has beens and was then thrown in there with Larry Holmes in his prime (one of the greatest heavyweight champs ever) and got his ass kicked. He was then thrown in with Michael Spinks (a great light heavyweight champ but a much smaller man who he should have crushed) and got his ass kicked again. Then they put him in with an older George Foreman who starched him in two. So think about it.. the three real fighters he was matched with knocked him out. I'm sure he was paid well for those fights. Hope he saved his money.
That liver shot would have taken out any boxer who ever lived. Perfect placement and completely unprotected. A flush liver shot like that and nobodys getting up.
Yes sir.
bs
Maybe, but the problem Cooney had was, every fighter he fought was'nt old and shot.
@@6400az Cooney had a tremendous power and limited chin
That's sad to see a great fighter like Ron Lyle getting knocked out like that...
@Steelmonger888 he was 39 years old here
I loved it. Should’ve kicked him off the ring.
@@ghytgb why dont u like Ron Lyle? He is one of the best!
Cooney was badass
@@tonymyers7498 Lyle was better , but here he was already very old. Larry Holmes made Cooney look an amateur and Foreman almost killed him. In his prime he was a very strong fella thoug!
Cooney's offense was lethal. His defense was his problem.
Young contender who can hit extremely hard. Against a rugged tough guy Ron Lyle. Would have loved to see this match if Lyle was six years younger.
Yeah, I think that version of Lyle, or the version that fought Foreman beats Cooney. Cooney was great though, and would be champion today.
Funny how Lyle looked almost identically as George Foreman, especially with the haircut and trunks
Yeah, that is kind of weird. Same trunks as young Foreman. I wonder why he did that.
Cooney put 🥊 hands all on that guy😂😂
He ain’t beat foreman 😂
Man everybody slept on Jerry Cooney's power. George Foreman said he was the fighter who hit the hardest.
Yeah dude, although cooney had that body type. His punching power was scary because foreman went numb after cooney's punch connected.
He said Lyle hit hardest
He had powerfull hands. His chin was the problem.
@@Rossanna2000- Not so numb as Cooney was when Foreman let loose on him…..Cooney was out on his feet before he hit the Canvas!!
@@steveturner609 yeah foreman hit like a freight train 👍
Geez. Cooney crazy power...
Foreman said that Lyle and Cooney were the two biggest punchers he had fought along with Cleveland Williams (who was his sparring partner). Just watched the Quarry fight against Lyle. He also felt that it was worth attacking Lyle's body. Great fights. Great boxers.
Man, I thought for sure this one would go the distance
No shame in Ron Lyle going out like that. He didn’t lose to a bum. He was a professional boxer paying the bills. Same as Cooney.
Combine Cooney's wicked left hook with a liver punch and you have a blow that very few could endure.
Cooney just never learned how to tie up the opponent when he got hit. Was his demise.
Cocaine was his demise.
Your exactly right
He could not cover up after he was hurt. He could hit hard.
Holy hell those body shots were insane. Looks like Lyle was super flat footed and old. Shame seeing a fighter go out like that
.:1:00 into fight , it was clear ron was paid to dive
@@jb-vb8un, how was it clear? because you wanted Lyle to win and he was getting pummeled from the bell? i need more than that
@@mikebockey4125 Ron threw 4 -5 punches with no power or bad intent. The year 1979 marked a decline in Lyle's abilities. Draws with fringe contenders Stan Ward and Scott LeDoux were followed by a stunning one-punch loss to unheard-of Lynn Ball. The Ring magazine quoted Lyle as saying afterwards "No one does that to me."
He would return to the ring, however, but not for long. Ron retired again after a first-round knockout loss to then-rising star and undefeated power-hitting Gerry Cooney. By then, Lyle was 39 years old and his best years had gone
@@jb-vb8un, all of that is information about lyle’s record. has no bearing on his being paid to take a dive. i’m not saying it isn’t possible but i don’t conjecture anything like that without rock solid evidence.
i’d be more inclined to think that liston took a dive and i’m not even buying that until someone who was there says so.
@@mikebockey4125 so the lack of punches not a factor for ya ....just go ahead and stand in the taller guys wheelhouse ....
That liver shot would have taken out a Nimitz class aircraft carrier.
Cooney was underrated even after his retirement he was a very solid fighter
OOtntprice- Actually Cooney wasOVERATED- not underated.
Cooney had so much power. But his chin was the problem, contrary to his punching power.
Great respect to The Greats . Both very hard tough Boxers
including foreman too
A young Lyle was much more aggressive, much better footwork, and would have pounded Cooney out. But this was a great KO for Gerry. Incredible power.
I don't know... If Gerry lands, you're done...
My dream fight: Cooney vs Golota. Call it the "Battle of the Cluttered Minds"
That was a wicked body punch!
He knocked out Ron but could not go the distance with Foreman? I think he couldn't get to Inside fighting with Foreman as he uses the push tactic
When Cooney fought Foreman, his carreer was already over due to years of heavy drinking and drug abuse.
Cooney had the tools to be the champ, except the mental game.
If Cooney had gotten the substance problem under control, and brought along a little more timely, he very well could've gotten the belt.
Ultra HD video!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Reports after the fight that Lyle had his ribs caved in seem exaggerated given that after the fight he was giving an interview, with one of his children in his arms IIRC.
If both men's punch power had turned into electric power we wouldn't have pay bill xd
Early Cooney was scarily dangerous
Cooney was an underrated fighter. He had heavy hands. Great power.
Such crisp 78p video quality here. 😅
Lyle went toe to toe with the monster puncher Ernie Shavers. At one point, Shavers knocked Lyle down with a left hook, and Lyle looked unconscious. Somehow, Lyle came back and knocked out Shavers.
Yet here he looked totally ineffective against Cooney.
He was older here. Also, he’d been in wars against Shavers, Foreman, and others. Maybe his body just was saying enough already. Maybe he wasn’t in shape. Maybe those are the reasons. Someone here said he was paid to take a dive. I don’t know. He just never seemed in the fight, which is unusual for him.
After fighting so many power punchers in his career, it's obvious that at some point the body is not gonna be able to take it anymore. Lyle was definitely worn down from previous fights with big power punchers, the body just couldn't keep up anymore.
And now.....let's hear from the experts.
02:35 Omg.. you can actually hear the crunch of the ribs from that left hook body shot that ended the fight... Yikes !
Cooney took that one!
That Gerrie Cooney would have whipped Larry Holmes easily!
Ron Lyle could take a punch in his career.
That last left hook that Cooney hit Lyle with is some powerful shot to drop him like that.
Those body shots are sickening.
Ron Lyle b. 1941, Gerrie Cooney b. 1956.
He ended the careers of Lyle and Norton in first round, who were both past their best. But still devastating punches tho.
I agree and u can't blame Cooney for beating old fighters but he fought the top names of his day. It wasn't his fault they were past their primes.
Never seen a boxer listed at so many different heights, is he 6'5, 6'6, or 6'7 ?
A converted south paw.......could get a bit confusing for these guys esp. once he rings their bell.
This must have been way past Lyles prime. He hardly threw any punches.
Brutal.. Cooney was no joke, he had alot of tools but he never reached his full potential
cause he was a drunk and did drugs
The great white nope 😂 Larry Holmes WHIPPED THIS BUM
Should have been stopped much sooner. It is a racist shame that it wasn't.
Dude cooney could SWAT.
Did Lyle throw away the fight? He never tried to punch at all.
He copped a liver shot. They take everything out of you.
Throw the fight, don’t be a dafty he came up against the most damaging left hook of the era, end off
@@louissmith5298 That makes sense!
its a fix
0:00 who is this commentator in 1 second
He could have blocked the liver shots but strangely took them?
like capt nemo , DIVE DIVE DIVE
I think all those left uppercuts had him more worried about his head than his body. That liver punch came out of nowhere after all those head shots.
Lyle never threw a punch..clearly bought off
If Conney was figjting today he would be Champion 100%! Whop da shit outta Tyson No Fury!
Beaten... battered and left laying..
I forgot how hard coney could punch. Takes a good boxer to beat him
JC fought too many fighters past their prime. RL could not defend himself or throw a punch, obviously too old. JC hits hard when he is hitting a stationary target.
Brutal.
How can any man stay standing from a body shot like 2.12?? 😷
I’m not sure I saw Lyle throw a punch in the fight.
So why didn't Cooney train harder for the Larry Holmes bout? He was a really hard puncher but Larry absorbed them
He did train, hard. Larry just had more skill. The fight was about even when Holmes won. Even Larry has since said many times Gerry was a good fighter.
Cooney fought a total of 53 seconds of 1 round the two years leading up to the fight. He was the golden white goose that they protected and sat on, waiting for the big pay day. to hatch.
Jerry Cooney had dynamite in those fists. .... both men did. this was a punchers battle
No it was'nt . Lyle was old and way over the hill. This fight was one of several used to establish the pseudo legitimacy of Cooney.
That Was Bullshit! Ron Lyle Was A Much Harder Puncher Than Cooney, And He Didn't Land A Single Punch?!?
No, he wasn't. Cooneys left hook was as powerful as left hooks got......😊
That liver shot done Lyle in.
Cooney was such a coddled fighter, who fought nothing but old men, until he got exposed.
Cuándo fue esto?
When Cooney destroyed Ken Norton it was even better
Oh gosh, the ref should have been arrested after he let Cooney hit defenseless Norton. Barbaric.
Norton was on Social Security when Cooney beat him 😂😂
Fake fight! Lyle didn't throw any punches!
batten the hatch - DIVE DIVE to davy jones lockerr
Wow!
2:10
I am not trying to avoid giving Cooney credit but Ron Lyle looked drugged.
He was drugged by Cooney's devastating body shots.
You don't have to,..........his record against quality fighters speaks for themselves.
Lyle in his prime would 've kicked his ass in 3 Rounds...
Yeah
He could have beaten that nigga anytime
Or less......
how old was Lyle??
around 38 40
Cooney was 6'5 and he made Lyle look like him was 5'9
6'7
@@utenteantimoralismo8549 No? Cooney was 6'5 and Lyle was 6'3
@@mushamusharekido7641 Internet says 6'7
@@utenteantimoralismo8549 it's wrong tho
how was Cooney able to avoid Ali ??
Cooney was rising as Ali was on his way out. Cooney got a shot at Holnes which gave rise to the great white hope mantra in the 80s. Holmes was disrespected and even had to walk out first. Which a champion should never have to do. And then he preceded to.beat the s#it out of Cooney. He could have taken him out at any time. But he took his pound of flesh
@@TheRDW710 yea I was gonna say, Ali woulda prolly hit him 1000 times, he was so easy to hit
@@TheRDW710 So not true. Cooney made the mistake of trying to save strength for long fight. Even Holmes admitted he thought Cooney should have had him in the fourth round as he was hurt.
@@TheRDW710 Holmes vs Cooney was a war what are you talking about? Be an honest man, not bias for an agenda. Larry is one of my favourite fighters but I’m honest. It was a war and both fighters are great and championship level.
@@TheRDW710 - Just like Tyson Fury BEAT THE SHIT out of Great Black Hope Deontay Wilder THREE TIMES.
Fixed fight. Lyle was paid to throw no punches.
BINGO , DIVE DIVE DIVE
Lyle took the money and avoided uneccesary punishment
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F I X
why is lyle backing up ?
Michael Spinks destroyed him
Cooney was such a waste of life. Terrific punching power with the left hand but that was it. Unfortunately for him he was too stupid to develop his talent properly and as a result he wasted his career.