Some of you understood the intent of the video, to test the difference between exotic weapons and armor against ascended weapons and armor. There's not a huge difference. Some of you also voiced your opinion that I should have also included ascended trinkets with both tests. Yes I could have done that, but that would just make the gap even smaller. However, if you'd like the information here it is: Ascended gear with ascended trinkets DPS average: 25,309.2 DPS Exotic gear with ascended trinkets DPS average: 24,698.6 DPS Difference: 610.6 DPS Go out and get your trinkets, they do make a big difference, but think about the armor and weapons as discussed in the video.
I am now fully ascended but people are telling me to get legendary. The game is now starting to become vertical progression. I played GW2 because it was horizontal.
So...hours of my life, and if I craft, around 350 gold, for a ~5% increase in damage. Nope. Not worth my time. Thanks for the video. It solved a conundrum.
for new players this is a great video, i know many players that feel lost when playing the game and this stuff helps out a lot. as a veteran, it's stuff we already know. but that doesn't take away anything of the effort you did. great vid, really enjoyed it. keep it up! edit: some exotic gear like minstrel or viper is super expensive, so some ascended gear is more worth getting if you play fractals or pvp if you make the tokens for the specific crafting professions.
People come from other MMOs with preconceived notions of progression. Guild Wars 2 attempt to challenge that paradigm. Over 95% of the games content is perfectly doable with just exotic gear. I don't think new players get that and everybody just rushes to the ascended and legendary stuff. I don't enjoy a lot of the end game raids or PvP, I've been playing since day one and I still have several characters that have exotics and a handful of ascended pieces. Those characters are just as able to participate in everything that I want to do in the game as my Ranger which is my only full ascended character. I really wish that new players could start Guild Wars 2 with the game encouraging them to reconceptualize their existing paradigm of what MMO game play progression is ... Like a video that explains that gear is not the end all be all for this game.
I feel like the most important part of getting ascended gear is the journey, the dedication to the game and your classes abilities. Many people getting into Guild Wars 2 from other MMOs often are very focused on raiding and want to get into it as soon as possible. Thereby, they do not pay too much attention to their rotations and class specific features. Basically you can get exotic gear in one day, ascended gear, if you craft it all yourself, takes about a month to get. In that one month their probably getting more into their class than in one day, which makes the dps differnce in the end a lot higher.
Ascended is required for Fractal because of Agony Resistance. Then, you can do high level fractal that has higher chance to acquire ascended gears for your other characters. In my opinion, u only need to craft once for your favourite character or the character that u wan to do fractal.
I think one of the reasons the stat difference is greater on trinkets vs weapons/armor is because the weapons and armor also have attack and defense value, where as trinkets only have attribute bonuses. But the gap is still a little narrower than it should be for the hoops the game expects you to jump through to get Ascended.
dont forget all exo trinkets also get a gem that further buffs their stats, so the exo amulett gives 120+25 = 145 power that is just 12 less then the acended
The gap on exotic and ascended gear is 5% (thats why you only get 800 difference is math) The gap on trinkets/rings/backpack/amulet are 11% (and not counting the infusions) Thats like 8%~ total increase. Foods does like 16% of damage increase almost double (only on ele, rangers, ps warrior or chrono foods are really important and boost more your stats and capabilities ).
The difference between 15,994 and 15,151 is roughly 5%. So no, unless you're a hardcore min maxer or part of the fun for you is just completing a top gear set, the difference is minimal.
YUS! And so glad i saw this video. I got very discouraged when i watched vids on how to get ascended. So much work if yer not dedicating your life to it. Wont make a twilight or get a griffon. Gw2 is way to grindy when it comes to that sort of thing. But LOVE that its not really important to even get ascended. I will live the exotic life and have a blast! Its nice that super grindy accomplishments are there for those who love that sort of thing. Im just not that person. Update on this. SO i did get a griffin. Took 6 hours. Pft some youtube vids make it seem like you have to do soo much to get things done.
5% of extra damage might deceptively sound minimal, but its very significant if we're talking about long duration fights, but its true that it's not a necessity
when I was at 9:12 I almost starting typing don't attack the boss when it is a shield form! Still get these types in t4 version.. Like learn it already!
For me ascended gear was a big goal, during the crafting process (it took me one month or so) I progressed a lot on the game by doing tons of farms/events, I also discovered fractals with my friends :) overall for me I think it's worth the gold spent :D
I started playing January this year (8 months now). My first goal when reached lvl 80 on first toon was to get ascended set for t4 fractals, now I have 6 toons and everyone is suited in exotics, which is good enough for every content I play (open world and wvw), while I do fractals on my main (I'm not even playing much fractals lately) so... I'll probably get a legendary set before I get a second ascended one hahahaha
You need ascended gear for the luxury infusions as well. Besides that some stat combinations are hard if not impossible to get outside of ascended, such as marauders.
Even Metabattle says exotics are fine when you read their WvW and PVP builds, but they definitely don't discourage ascended for raiding and fractals. I'm a 500 tailor and Leatherworker, that works fine for me. Trinkets I will get, and I have a 400 cook :)
I thought ascended was mainly for agony resistance in fractals? Just buy a level 80 upgrade with full celestial exotic gear-weapons-trinkets for one character, and then focus on getting the legendary trinkets. This will farm the exotic armor for your other characters, while they will all benefit from the legendary trinkets. Slap some agony resistance on the trinkets and now they can all do low level fractals. The legendary back item is the first legendary to get. The exotic versus ascended stats are almost exactly the same, nice to have but largely not necessary or beneficial outside of fractals, so skip to running down legendary for quality of life and agony resistance.
Good information from this thank you. Only complaint is saying it adds 'insert number here'dsp over time. At this point it wouldn't be called dps but either over all damage or damage over time. Sorry that was bugging me every time I heard it.
The only ascended stuff I have is from reward tracks from collections and that’s as far as I’ll go tbh... it’s not really needed... legendary however may be another story
5.27% is significant, and that is without 6 pieces of gear. Hell, in WvW 5% vitality alone is the difference between killing or being killed. And the comments on food are critical too. While this game is more skill-based than gear (a good thing, IMO) Eat/sharpen always and have a stack of both in your bags.
Getting ascended gear is fun though. Because exotics are way too easy to acquire. So it's another form of end game gearing. And is a must for competitive raid groups and fractals (for the infusion slots that are only available on ascended). But more so the fun part matters. Or else the game becomes semi goal-less
you forgot between acended trinkets and exotic, you loose the slot for upgreats - aka the jewels so acended berserker amulett is +157 power and exotic is +120 +25 (from jewel) = 145 power, so there also isnt much of a difference, expecialy when you craft your trinkets you get the jewels included
While this is true, the difference can be noticed when you're in WvW since Ascended gears can be slotted with WvW Infusions. A single Power WvW infusion grants +5 power 1% damage to lords and guards. Correct me if I am wrong, but with 18 infusions you get +90 power and 18% additional outgoing damage vs. guards and lord compared to standard jewels of exotics, this helps a lot when roaming.
In wvw you def want to do 5 percent more DPs on enemies. If your group all doing 5percent extra and focus target on someone the pressure is on them more. I imagine raids get cleared faster also even if its only by a few minutes
the reason people make legendary and ascended gear is to do fractals and to get the agony infusions with +5 power(or somethings else like condi) and thats where u get the extra power that really makes a difference from exotic. consider all of this its all "useless" if u dont know ur class. so really u should just learn ur class and learn how it works and were u can save some time for more dps
As someone that is still fairly new to the game this is pretty informative. I have the ascended weapon and most of the accessories, but have hit a roadblock on being able to actually craft the gear, since the drop rates and prices for the leather are so ridiculous. I've been stressing a little on if I really need it or not, so I guess I really don't....not immediately anyway.
Well, you get easier access to top gear for your other builds and characters, I guess? It's all about having fun with different classes in a challenging setting. Also Fashion Wars. Yes, GW2 is different in the way it treats end-game content. So much of the game is accessible quite early. But in their essence mmos are about gearing up for the sake of gearing up, aren't they? Or ranking up. You are supposed to enjoy doing that for hours on end.
The thing is those small things accumulate over time as you mentioned with food and someone who strives to be better (for personal improvement) takes time to get these small bonuses also like most optimal rotation so at the end they might deal 10-20% more dps than just a exotic gear scrub guy. Then they wonder why they deal way less dmg like cmon you just gotta improve and learn to become better (overtime and in your own paste)
are you personally going for legendary armor? Is the forever changeable stats worth the present value of the gold spent to get it as game progress in meta and different stats become prominent and also accessibility, change build anytime, etc etc (and looking great)
Kind of baffled that there are people who think that a 5% dps increase isn't sizable or worth it. I get that GW2 is a more casual mmo but casual shouldn't mean bad/lazy. Not what I've seen so far unfortunately.
Point of this video starts at 4:10 And I agree the trinket comparison is pointless because ANYONE can get good ascended trinkets from laurel merchants.
Thanks for this video, I was always curious how the people I group with in some dungeons were hitting so hard. I guess it is actually because of their stat distribution rather than their gear. (I often survive encounters that they don't.)
cool, how about I spend just 3 seconds killing a beast with exotic to get that 50k cool fun game but this shit is depressing and makes u hate and quit the game since there isn't anything worth grinding for other than looks
Thanks for the detailed info I have been curious about it I think I will do ascended gear for Trinkets and maybe legendary weapons but as for the armor I think I'll just stick with good old exotic. I have noticed that exotic items have different numbers to them so would crafting exotic be better than finding exotic in the world?
I also play as an elementalist. And for someone who started playing a couple of months ago, I regret so much rushing ascended gear.. Like you pointed out, theres not much of a difference and I agree that ascended should not be rushed, it has some advantages but the overall gold I've spent its not worth it. I could have bought seaweed salads for life..
Gaming with GS test is pretty bad oh i only do 800 damage more damn. but if ascended trinkets are way better like you said than that gap will be greater and that convience some people to get ascended gear
Raimund, in the video I advise everyone to get ascended trinkets. Because yes, they do make a massive difference. The point is not, should I get everything ascended gear, the point is should I get the weapon and armor. The weapon and armor make a minor difference. Everyone should get ascended trinkets because of how good they are, hence why there was no point testing them. See my pinned comment for more info on how it will not be a greater gap as you say.
There's basically no difference , I got ascended weapons from WvW , compared them with some legendaries and yeah..same stats ,no unique rune , this whole game is a barbie world, based on cosmetics and shit.. I stopped right before I almost got the bolt precursor weapon, lost most of my interest honestly .
Gw2 would be better for me if the gear dropped from enemies because i hate this form of crafting. Not saying easy enemies and high drop rate but if i farm for hours id get something good!
Very nice comparison, Thanks for the help! I got a question: You say its mostly for pve fractals but what about roaming in wvw would you get a big disatvantage in 1v1s? I will try getting ascended but i think its a long journey since i also want to play different classes :p
It is NOT only 800 difference, its only 800 difference if we all chose to wear no Trinkets If you had tested with Trinkets it might have been another 200, 300 or 400 on top of that 800 And quit bitching about how it cost you 55 Gold, will this video earn you more than $2? if yes you can buy back that 55 gold and call it a business expense of your YT channel, on my server at least, 50 gold costs about $2 Sure you might want to be "legit" for your actual account purchases, and thats fine, but this is an investment for making an informative video Other than that, appreciate your efforts
Is this still relevant? if so....I dont think i'm going to stress getting asc. gear. lol. not paying that mcuh gold and time to get that gear when I can take a bit of food and gain more.
Why did you craft armor? Named gear has always been super cheap alternative. WvW even cheaper, and Grenth's vendor buy Zerker armor for Karma. No way in hell I would have paid 50 plus gold when there are much much cheaper was of obtaining level 80 exotic armor
Nice video, I'm concerned why did the exotic gear cost you 55G, you can get free gear from bladed boxes or similar loot and dungeons boxes..or was it the runes and sigils that had the major cost share?
@@JobeStroud he just bough it of tp - ofc berserker is the most expansive, getting lvl 80 exo is rather easy when you self craft (lvl 400 crafting) or do dungeons
@@beneteus3833 Talk about a old comment. That is what I mean. He had no mats and bought everything up front. If I assume what this old video is even about..
You only need ascended gear for the infusion slots, nothing else. Outside of fractals the exotic gear is usually better for you because of the upgrade slots
i havent watched the whole video but i saw your dps comparison and i gotta say you should have done it with full exotic, then with full exotic armor + asc weapon and then with full ascended gear that way you would have seen how much better and more important asc WEAPONS are compared to asc ARMOR the reasoning behind this being that weapons also have a better damage range on top of the stats
Really enjoy your content often but this one really let me down. I believe if you are going to compare exotic vs ascended you need to compare it fully. This means FULL exotic (not exotic with asc trinkets as they are ascended and not exotic) vs FULL ascended (this INCLUDES mighty infusions in ALL pieces). If you did this comparison, a HUGE different would be shown. Although you did mention that ascended equipment can have infusions (and that is a big reason to get it) you failed to mention how infusions can have actual stats along with agony. These extra +5 power from EACH infusion in EACH piece of ascended would end up making a pretty big difference. Are they expensive? Fuck yeah they are but if you are going to compare X vs Y I want X (in absolute best) vs Y (in absolute best) not X vs Y when one is max potential (exotic) while the other isnt (half assed ascended)
Then it wouldnt be accurate. Theres a variety of trinkets to choose from. He'd have to test different strength combinations of Precision, Ferocity and of course Power (since all three are factored in physical attacks) which will take awhile, and will give different numbers most of the time. And if you want to argue that he should just use one "set" of trinkets with the same stats, then youd have to have the same ones as well in order to compare it. Assuming he uses ascended trinkets for ascended weapons and exotic trinkets for exotic weapons the difference will be skewed and difficult to conclusively test. It makes more sense that he removed them. It counts base DPS not max.
So people on here are saying that you only need ascended gear for fractals, but if there's no higher tier of gear as a reward then what's the point of fractals? I'm a GW2 noob and seeing this just broke my entire understanding of endgame progression and now I'm just confused.
2:25 - i think u failed tu add the juwel that exotic trinkets have but ascended dont. exotic 3stat-Ring (115, 79,79) vs ascended (126, 85, 85); around 8%; exotic 3stat-weapons (120, 85, 85) vs ascended (128, 90, 90); around 6%; however dmg increase is 4,75% exotic 3stat-chest (125, 89, 89) vs ascended (141, 101, 101); around 12%; however defense increase is around 5% i would argue that the difference in trinkets is the least. However, a good argument for ascended trinkets is that they are basically for free (guild commendations for assecories; pristine fractal relics for rings; laurels/badges of honor for amulets; or unbound magic and LS3-mapmats if u want HoT-stats on it) (PLS NEVER BUY RINGS AND ASSECORIES WITH LAURELS! BIG WAIST OF LAURELS) by far the most expensieve item of all is the back and its also the piece that gives u the least stat-increase compared to an exotic back (which costs almost nothing when crafted). 6:28 - that would be 5,28% dmg-increase which i would say is quite substantial, (raw numbers of a specific build might tell you what it does but ppl who dont play this build wont be able to make a lot out of it; why not just tell them the %-value (which works for every build); What we know too now is that a build that uses exotic armor but ascended trinkets and weapon will only miss around 0,5% dmg compared to full-ascended since the base-dmg of the weapon is already a dmg-increase of almost 5% 7:58 - since i see u using precise infusions: i did some calculations on dmg for different builds etc. and i can tell u now that Power is always better than precision. And precision is usually better than ferocity (at around 80% critchance ferocity starts to be more effective than precision but even at 100% critchance power is still better than ferocity); Means that precise infusions are completely useless since u can also take power instead. also assasinstat is garbage (its not even close to zerker as one might tend to think). remark: i didnt include infusions into my comparison since most ppl will drop agony in it but if u are not into fractals DONT BUY +4-attribute-infusions; buy +5-attribute-infusions in WvW instead! (they are better but cost the same + a few badges of honor which arent worth mentioning, really)
10:08 nice calculation, your doing 765 000 extra dps? "damage per second" so you say that with ascendant gear in a 10 minute fight you will do 765k more damage per second, thats 60x10 seconds in 10 minutes, so a normal bossfight you whould do 765kx600= 459 000 000 or 459 million more damage than you whould with exotic gear? somehow i doubt it..
Look man do you not realize it’s well past 4 minutes before u even START explaining the how to part which is the only reason any of us clicked this, you are WAY too long winded
Some of you understood the intent of the video, to test the difference between exotic weapons and armor against ascended weapons and armor. There's not a huge difference. Some of you also voiced your opinion that I should have also included ascended trinkets with both tests. Yes I could have done that, but that would just make the gap even smaller. However, if you'd like the information here it is:
Ascended gear with ascended trinkets DPS average: 25,309.2 DPS
Exotic gear with ascended trinkets DPS average: 24,698.6 DPS
Difference: 610.6 DPS
Go out and get your trinkets, they do make a big difference, but think about the armor and weapons as discussed in the video.
0.39% increase
which addon for dps is that? i just installed arcdps, but it's not cool as yours
@@Atlas_FPV did you mean .039%? If not that's a huge increase.
I am now fully ascended but people are telling me to get legendary. The game is now starting to become vertical progression. I played GW2 because it was horizontal.
So...hours of my life, and if I craft, around 350 gold, for a ~5% increase in damage. Nope. Not worth my time. Thanks for the video. It solved a conundrum.
the tldr version of this video would be much better. why is it so long when there are only like 2-3 points
for new players this is a great video, i know many players that feel lost when playing the game and this stuff helps out a lot. as a veteran, it's stuff we already know. but that doesn't take away anything of the effort you did. great vid, really enjoyed it. keep it up!
edit: some exotic gear like minstrel or viper is super expensive, so some ascended gear is more worth getting if you play fractals or pvp if you make the tokens for the specific crafting professions.
I would say get trinkets and weapons first, then slowly get armor or not.
Yeah but if you dont have ascended gear then you cant make fun of people for not having it
People come from other MMOs with preconceived notions of progression. Guild Wars 2 attempt to challenge that paradigm. Over 95% of the games content is perfectly doable with just exotic gear. I don't think new players get that and everybody just rushes to the ascended and legendary stuff. I don't enjoy a lot of the end game raids or PvP, I've been playing since day one and I still have several characters that have exotics and a handful of ascended pieces. Those characters are just as able to participate in everything that I want to do in the game as my Ranger which is my only full ascended character. I really wish that new players could start Guild Wars 2 with the game encouraging them to reconceptualize their existing paradigm of what MMO game play progression is ... Like a video that explains that gear is not the end all be all for this game.
I feel like the most important part of getting ascended gear is the journey, the dedication to the game and your classes abilities. Many people getting into Guild Wars 2 from other MMOs often are very focused on raiding and want to get into it as soon as possible. Thereby, they do not pay too much attention to their rotations and class specific features.
Basically you can get exotic gear in one day, ascended gear, if you craft it all yourself, takes about a month to get. In that one month their probably getting more into their class than in one day, which makes the dps differnce in the end a lot higher.
Ascended is required for Fractal because of Agony Resistance. Then, you can do high level fractal that has higher chance to acquire ascended gears for your other characters. In my opinion, u only need to craft once for your favourite character or the character that u wan to do fractal.
The only thing i would say if you want do do fractals you can not put A/R into exotic exotics
I think one of the reasons the stat difference is greater on trinkets vs weapons/armor is because the weapons and armor also have attack and defense value, where as trinkets only have attribute bonuses. But the gap is still a little narrower than it should be for the hoops the game expects you to jump through to get Ascended.
dont forget all exo trinkets also get a gem that further buffs their stats, so the exo amulett gives 120+25 = 145 power that is just 12 less then the acended
The gap on exotic and ascended gear is 5% (thats why you only get 800 difference is math)
The gap on trinkets/rings/backpack/amulet are 11% (and not counting the infusions)
Thats like 8%~ total increase.
Foods does like 16% of damage increase almost double (only on ele, rangers, ps warrior or chrono foods are really important and boost more your stats and capabilities ).
Indeed, hence food and trinkets are much better to get and aim for than ascended armor and weapons.
@@GamingwithGS1 did you also include that the exo trinkets all have gems that further boost their stats?
because i only get about 9% difference
The difference between 15,994 and 15,151 is roughly 5%. So no, unless you're a hardcore min maxer or part of the fun for you is just completing a top gear set, the difference is minimal.
YUS! And so glad i saw this video. I got very discouraged when i watched vids on how to get ascended. So much work if yer not dedicating your life to it. Wont make a twilight or get a griffon.
Gw2 is way to grindy when it comes to that sort of thing. But LOVE that its not really important to even get ascended. I will live the exotic life and have a blast!
Its nice that super grindy accomplishments are there for those who love that sort of thing. Im just not that person.
Update on this. SO i did get a griffin. Took 6 hours. Pft some youtube vids make it seem like you have to do soo much to get things done.
5% of extra damage might deceptively sound minimal, but its very significant if we're talking about long duration fights, but its true that it's not a necessity
you dont really make asc for the dps effect. you make them cuz of fractals cmon lol thats it.
Agreed. Even then you don't need armor etc until t3? Trinkets can easily support your toon until then.
ascended gears are great in wvw , more damage , more health , more everything , damage are almost double
Atoms u added the infusion slots ? where you can add more power + 19 slots ( +5 each )
when I was at 9:12 I almost starting typing don't attack the boss when it is a shield form! Still get these types in t4 version.. Like learn it already!
For me ascended gear was a big goal, during the crafting process (it took me one month or so) I progressed a lot on the game by doing tons of farms/events, I also discovered fractals with my friends :) overall for me I think it's worth the gold spent :D
I started playing January this year (8 months now). My first goal when reached lvl 80 on first toon was to get ascended set for t4 fractals, now I have 6 toons and everyone is suited in exotics, which is good enough for every content I play (open world and wvw), while I do fractals on my main (I'm not even playing much fractals lately) so... I'll probably get a legendary set before I get a second ascended one hahahaha
You need ascended gear for the luxury infusions as well. Besides that some stat combinations are hard if not impossible to get outside of ascended, such as marauders.
Oh my god that MapleStory music ... The nostalgia is strong :'(
Even Metabattle says exotics are fine when you read their WvW and PVP builds, but they definitely don't discourage ascended for raiding and fractals.
I'm a 500 tailor and Leatherworker, that works fine for me.
Trinkets I will get, and I have a 400 cook :)
I thought ascended was mainly for agony resistance in fractals? Just buy a level 80 upgrade with full celestial exotic gear-weapons-trinkets for one character, and then focus on getting the legendary trinkets. This will farm the exotic armor for your other characters, while they will all benefit from the legendary trinkets. Slap some agony resistance on the trinkets and now they can all do low level fractals. The legendary back item is the first legendary to get. The exotic versus ascended stats are almost exactly the same, nice to have but largely not necessary or beneficial outside of fractals, so skip to running down legendary for quality of life and agony resistance.
Good information from this thank you. Only complaint is saying it adds 'insert number here'dsp over time. At this point it wouldn't be called dps but either over all damage or damage over time. Sorry that was bugging me every time I heard it.
The only ascended stuff I have is from reward tracks from collections and that’s as far as I’ll go tbh... it’s not really needed... legendary however may be another story
Maplestory music, my weakness. Nostalgia relapse.
5.27% is significant, and that is without 6 pieces of gear. Hell, in WvW 5% vitality alone is the difference between killing or being killed. And the comments on food are critical too. While this game is more skill-based than gear (a good thing, IMO) Eat/sharpen always and have a stack of both in your bags.
Getting ascended gear is fun though. Because exotics are way too easy to acquire. So it's another form of end game gearing. And is a must for competitive raid groups and fractals (for the infusion slots that are only available on ascended). But more so the fun part matters. Or else the game becomes semi goal-less
This kind of stuff does not motivate me in the slightest. Also the reason I don't play the game anymore.
you forgot between acended trinkets and exotic, you loose the slot for upgreats - aka the jewels
so acended berserker amulett is +157 power and exotic is +120 +25 (from jewel) = 145 power,
so there also isnt much of a difference, expecialy when you craft your trinkets you get the jewels included
While this is true, the difference can be noticed when you're in WvW since Ascended gears can be slotted with WvW Infusions. A single Power WvW infusion grants +5 power 1% damage to lords and guards. Correct me if I am wrong, but with 18 infusions you get +90 power and 18% additional outgoing damage vs. guards and lord compared to standard jewels of exotics, this helps a lot when roaming.
843 sure but wouldnt all buffs you add on top of that stack multiplicatively, to become a higher % than that of an exotic set
GS that Maplestory Sound track hit the feels!!
that maplestory music lol
The reason you want ascended is because of infusions for fractals or wvw roaming
In wvw you def want to do 5 percent more DPs on enemies. If your group all doing 5percent extra and focus target on someone the pressure is on them more. I imagine raids get cleared faster also even if its only by a few minutes
the reason people make legendary and ascended gear is to do fractals and to get the agony infusions with +5 power(or somethings else like condi) and thats where u get the extra power that really makes a difference from exotic. consider all of this its all "useless" if u dont know ur class. so really u should just learn ur class and learn how it works and were u can save some time for more dps
if you use all the available infusion slots you can get +90 in power or condi, wich is huge, specially when you add food and such.
I find this system pretty decent. Not forced to farm ascended gear whilst when I will have nothing to do, I know I can try and farm it.
As someone that is still fairly new to the game this is pretty informative. I have the ascended weapon and most of the accessories, but have hit a roadblock on being able to actually craft the gear, since the drop rates and prices for the leather are so ridiculous. I've been stressing a little on if I really need it or not, so I guess I really don't....not immediately anyway.
I think that it's worth it to have ascended trinkets and weapon, take exotic armor and you're set
*that maple story Elainnia (or whatever the tree fairy city is called)* is on point haha
Well but what can i get in fractals then ? If i only need the best gear for fractals... why do i need to do the fractals to begin with ?
Didn't blow mine, the reason you need ascendant is because of raids
Well, you get easier access to top gear for your other builds and characters, I guess? It's all about having fun with different classes in a challenging setting. Also Fashion Wars. Yes, GW2 is different in the way it treats end-game content. So much of the game is accessible quite early. But in their essence mmos are about gearing up for the sake of gearing up, aren't they? Or ranking up. You are supposed to enjoy doing that for hours on end.
@CheaterCheater the reward for completing a raid is the task itself. Same thing with every other mmo.
Legendaries, anyone? No?
new players should do citadel of flames to get ther zerker set and save gold, as for ascended should start with trinkets / weapon then the gear set
1 year later exotics are just over 1 gold on TP. Devona's for Heavy armor / Zhed's for Light / Nika's for Berserker.
i always tell people get ascended trinkets and weapons. worry about armor later. raids and fractals are being done often in exotic armor.
i want to see you do t4 lvl 100 fractals in exo armor
Which is better legendary or ascended weapon?
The thing is those small things accumulate over time as you mentioned with food and someone who strives to be better (for personal improvement) takes time to get these small bonuses also like most optimal rotation so at the end they might deal 10-20% more dps than just a exotic gear scrub guy. Then they wonder why they deal way less dmg like cmon you just gotta improve and learn to become better (overtime and in your own paste)
For soloing world bosses etc etc I mean champs, the extra defence really helps or the difference is little and really doesnt matter ?
are you personally going for legendary armor? Is the forever changeable stats worth the present value of the gold spent to get it as game progress in meta and different stats become prominent and also accessibility, change build anytime, etc etc (and looking great)
Kind of baffled that there are people who think that a 5% dps increase isn't sizable or worth it. I get that GW2 is a more casual mmo but casual shouldn't mean bad/lazy. Not what I've seen so far unfortunately.
Point of this video starts at 4:10 And I agree the trinket comparison is pointless because ANYONE can get good ascended trinkets from laurel merchants.
imo ascended armor/weapons are still worth doing, remember it gives you extra stats + defense
Thanks for this video, I was always curious how the people I group with in some dungeons were hitting so hard. I guess it is actually because of their stat distribution rather than their gear. (I often survive encounters that they don't.)
if you dps for a minute straight, that 843 dps adds up to 50, 580 in a minute...so it adds up pretty quick
Indeed it does!
cool, how about I spend just 3 seconds killing a beast with exotic to get that 50k
cool fun game but this shit is depressing and makes u hate and quit the game since there isn't anything worth grinding for other than looks
10:11
756.000 damage per SECOND over the course of 15 minutes.. lol
big fat crit brah D:
Thanks for the detailed info I have been curious about it I think I will do ascended gear for Trinkets and maybe legendary weapons but as for the armor I think I'll just stick with good old exotic. I have noticed that exotic items have different numbers to them so would crafting exotic be better than finding exotic in the world?
I also play as an elementalist. And for someone who started playing a couple of months ago, I regret so much rushing ascended gear.. Like you pointed out, theres not much of a difference and I agree that ascended should not be rushed, it has some advantages but the overall gold I've spent its not worth it. I could have bought seaweed salads for life..
you only realy wanne rush it if you want to get deep into t4 fractals on that character
What about gears like viper? Or the ones that give u concentration?
Is that maplestory music? It pulled my heart strings so i must know it from somewhere?
With condition damage build it is a far more noticeable difference when min maxed
So, are you going to make your ascended gear now or stick with exotic?
Gaming with GS yes BC im doing Fractals and I need those Infiusion Slots..
Gaming with GS test is pretty bad oh i only do 800 damage more damn. but if ascended trinkets are way better like you said than that gap will be greater and that convience some people to get ascended gear
Gaming with GS isnt the main difference the fact that you can put infusions onto ascended ? (raidwise)
WvW? Make no difference?
Raimund, in the video I advise everyone to get ascended trinkets. Because yes, they do make a massive difference. The point is not, should I get everything ascended gear, the point is should I get the weapon and armor. The weapon and armor make a minor difference. Everyone should get ascended trinkets because of how good they are, hence why there was no point testing them. See my pinned comment for more info on how it will not be a greater gap as you say.
You made my day with this video sir. I definitely not want to begin crafting stuff, and better yet that I know is not that worth it!
There's basically no difference , I got ascended weapons from WvW , compared them with some legendaries and yeah..same stats ,no unique rune , this whole game is a barbie world, based on cosmetics and shit.. I stopped right before I almost got the bolt precursor weapon, lost most of my interest honestly .
Game allows you to center your attention on your skill as a player instead of giving your life to get the best gear.
Gw2 would be better for me if the gear dropped from enemies because i hate this form of crafting. Not saying easy enemies and high drop rate but if i farm for hours id get something good!
Very nice comparison, Thanks for the help!
I got a question: You say its mostly for pve fractals but what about roaming in wvw would you get a big disatvantage in 1v1s? I will try getting ascended but i think its a long journey since i also want to play different classes :p
Thereotically, wouldn't a 5% difference in stats equal a 5% difference in DPS?
It is NOT only 800 difference, its only 800 difference if we all chose to wear no Trinkets
If you had tested with Trinkets it might have been another 200, 300 or 400 on top of that 800
And quit bitching about how it cost you 55 Gold, will this video earn you more than $2? if yes you can buy back that 55 gold and call it a business expense of your YT channel, on my server at least, 50 gold costs about $2
Sure you might want to be "legit" for your actual account purchases, and thats fine, but this is an investment for making an informative video
Other than that, appreciate your efforts
Could you please tell me how to display DPS as in your video ? Thanks.
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Is this still relevant? if so....I dont think i'm going to stress getting asc. gear. lol. not paying that mcuh gold and time to get that gear when I can take a bit of food and gain more.
Ascended can have AR in it and it's account bound instead of soul bound
+Simon Prokop thank you for the extra info.
is that ff10 music in the backround?
DPS is not the only aspect. survivability is also to be taken into account and you didn't even regard that... well..... feels useless to me.
Great video bud
Why did you craft armor? Named gear has always been super cheap alternative. WvW even cheaper, and Grenth's vendor buy Zerker armor for Karma. No way in hell I would have paid 50 plus gold when there are much much cheaper was of obtaining level 80 exotic armor
i've always wondered, what helmet skin is that on your ele
5:45 Maple Story :D
it would be interesting to see the dps diff on necro or rangers but good video.
Nice video, I'm concerned why did the exotic gear cost you 55G, you can get free gear from bladed boxes or similar loot and dungeons boxes..or was it the runes and sigils that had the major cost share?
Cause he wanted it right now most likely.
@@JobeStroud he just bough it of tp - ofc berserker is the most expansive, getting lvl 80 exo is rather easy when you self craft (lvl 400 crafting) or do dungeons
@@beneteus3833 Talk about a old comment. That is what I mean. He had no mats and bought everything up front. If I assume what this old video is even about..
You only need ascended gear for the infusion slots, nothing else. Outside of fractals the exotic gear is usually better for you because of the upgrade slots
i havent watched the whole video but i saw your dps comparison and i gotta say you should have done it with full exotic, then with full exotic armor + asc weapon and then with full ascended gear
that way you would have seen how much better and more important asc WEAPONS are compared to asc ARMOR
the reasoning behind this being that weapons also have a better damage range on top of the stats
Maplestory bgm is a plus
Really enjoy your content often but this one really let me down. I believe if you are going to compare exotic vs ascended you need to compare it fully. This means FULL exotic (not exotic with asc trinkets as they are ascended and not exotic) vs FULL ascended (this INCLUDES mighty infusions in ALL pieces). If you did this comparison, a HUGE different would be shown. Although you did mention that ascended equipment can have infusions (and that is a big reason to get it) you failed to mention how infusions can have actual stats along with agony. These extra +5 power from EACH infusion in EACH piece of ascended would end up making a pretty big difference. Are they expensive? Fuck yeah they are but if you are going to compare X vs Y I want X (in absolute best) vs Y (in absolute best) not X vs Y when one is max potential (exotic) while the other isnt (half assed ascended)
Then it wouldnt be accurate. Theres a variety of trinkets to choose from. He'd have to test different strength combinations of Precision, Ferocity and of course Power (since all three are factored in physical attacks) which will take awhile, and will give different numbers most of the time.
And if you want to argue that he should just use one "set" of trinkets with the same stats, then youd have to have the same ones as well in order to compare it.
Assuming he uses ascended trinkets for ascended weapons and exotic trinkets for exotic weapons the difference will be skewed and difficult to conclusively test.
It makes more sense that he removed them. It counts base DPS not max.
MUH 5.27% DPS INCREASE lmao
that INV panel at the begining was literally painful to look at. Still playing Inventory Wars 2 but making vids? bruh.
So people on here are saying that you only need ascended gear for fractals, but if there's no higher tier of gear as a reward then what's the point of fractals?
I'm a GW2 noob and seeing this just broke my entire understanding of endgame progression and now I'm just confused.
You're not alone. More I try to learn how to get ascended gear, more I get confused and frustrated.
2:25 - i think u failed tu add the juwel that exotic trinkets have but ascended dont.
exotic 3stat-Ring (115, 79,79) vs ascended (126, 85, 85); around 8%;
exotic 3stat-weapons (120, 85, 85) vs ascended (128, 90, 90); around 6%; however dmg increase is 4,75%
exotic 3stat-chest (125, 89, 89) vs ascended (141, 101, 101); around 12%; however defense increase is around 5%
i would argue that the difference in trinkets is the least. However, a good argument for ascended trinkets is that they are basically for free (guild commendations for assecories; pristine fractal relics for rings; laurels/badges of honor for amulets; or unbound magic and LS3-mapmats if u want HoT-stats on it) (PLS NEVER BUY RINGS AND ASSECORIES WITH LAURELS! BIG WAIST OF LAURELS)
by far the most expensieve item of all is the back and its also the piece that gives u the least stat-increase compared to an exotic back (which costs almost nothing when crafted).
6:28 - that would be 5,28% dmg-increase which i would say is quite substantial,
(raw numbers of a specific build might tell you what it does but ppl who dont play this build wont be able to make a lot out of it; why not just tell them the %-value (which works for every build); What we know too now is that a build that uses exotic armor but ascended trinkets and weapon will only miss around 0,5% dmg compared to full-ascended since the base-dmg of the weapon is already a dmg-increase of almost 5%
7:58 - since i see u using precise infusions: i did some calculations on dmg for different builds etc. and i can tell u now that Power is always better than precision. And precision is usually better than ferocity (at around 80% critchance ferocity starts to be more effective than precision but even at 100% critchance power is still better than ferocity); Means that precise infusions are completely useless since u can also take power instead. also assasinstat is garbage (its not even close to zerker as one might tend to think).
remark: i didnt include infusions into my comparison since most ppl will drop agony in it but if u are not into fractals DONT BUY +4-attribute-infusions; buy +5-attribute-infusions in WvW instead! (they are better but cost the same + a few badges of honor which arent worth mentioning, really)
i dont trust anyone with camera shaking on xD
Yea exotics for me
Thanks x
10:08 nice calculation, your doing 765 000 extra dps? "damage per second" so you say that with ascendant gear in a 10 minute fight you will do 765k more damage per second, thats 60x10 seconds in 10 minutes, so a normal bossfight you whould do 765kx600= 459 000 000 or 459 million more damage than you whould with exotic gear? somehow i doubt it..
Maplestory vibes
9:30 there is something wrong in that sentence lol.
fractals QQ
Look man do you not realize it’s well past 4 minutes before u even START explaining the how to part which is the only reason any of us clicked this, you are WAY too long winded
Oh god the slurping/smacking noises, right in my ear.