The shallowness of the Swan River, as well as its ecological fragility upstream of the Causeway are barriers to greater using the river for transport. The old Coode St Ferry used to require annual dredging to allow its passage, a cost that Colin Barnett said was too much. The trip to Freo is slow going, and that part of Perth is already the heaviest supplied by public transport.
Can’t really go anywhere on the swan river. Where would a new line go, Jandakot? Elisabeth Quay needs to be updated, don’t get me wrong, but metronet is to improve on the city, for what’s best for the city. So a ferry route? Not gonna happen mate
Do you guys have all your trains manufactured in Queensland? Just curious because through UA-cam I've noticed your B series trains sound the same as some of our SMUs and IMUs while your A series sounds like our EMUs but appears to have the shape of one of our SMU or IMU models.
The B series and QLD 260 SMU are similar in design to the Victorian VLocity trains. According to Wikipedia the B series were manufactured in Maryborough so you are correct
Hi James, the construction and long-term operational costs for an underground solution are significant, and lowering the rail would still maintain a physical and visual barrier causing potential disruption to the community and limit opportunity for development. The benefits of elevated rail will make it safer to travel in the area, reduce congestion, and revitalise the community by unlocking land for increased public open space.
@@metronetperth Is it regrettable that this crossing wasn't grade separated before the area was developed? Had it been done then, it could have been a really cheap and simple road-over or road-under separation. Also, a road-based grade separation of a wooden gated level crossing surrounded by then-vacant land sounds way better than replacing the gates by booms and adding bells.
Viaducts go back to 1800, and are a cheaper, quicker, easier, and less destructive of nearby buildings than tunnelling option in challenging economic times
@@banksiasong somewhat true though tunnelling has improved and can have no impact on street level... but you said it right there challenging economic times.... in other words not even looking at the future... not even thinking about the growing city or how as most viaducts become dark rotten places for homeless graffiti etc... we went down thew path around the world of viaducts and we learnt in 2023 they are not the way but then again Perth is stuck in the past right!
Why not put it underground. Then you can use even more space (no bridges and pylons). Then it also won't block the view from my home. There will be less noise from the trains too, and if underground less people will have access to the tracks.
@@robertbruce2182 having travelled overseas many railways are underground (including sections of Perth rail) without sinkholes being an issue. It might cost a little more for some tasks but will save money overall. More land available, less concrete for bridges and stations, safer with no access to the tracks etc.
Everyone talking about trains, but what about the ferries, we haven't had a new line in a while.
The shallowness of the Swan River, as well as its ecological fragility upstream of the Causeway are barriers to greater using the river for transport. The old Coode St Ferry used to require annual dredging to allow its passage, a cost that Colin Barnett said was too much. The trip to Freo is slow going, and that part of Perth is already the heaviest supplied by public transport.
Can’t really go anywhere on the swan river. Where would a new line go, Jandakot? Elisabeth Quay needs to be updated, don’t get me wrong, but metronet is to improve on the city, for what’s best for the city. So a ferry route? Not gonna happen mate
Do you guys have all your trains manufactured in Queensland? Just curious because through UA-cam I've noticed your B series trains sound the same as some of our SMUs and IMUs while your A series sounds like our EMUs but appears to have the shape of one of our SMU or IMU models.
The B series is built as a joint project between Downer EDI and Bombardier In Queensland afaik. The A series are made by ABB and Adtranz.
The B series and QLD 260 SMU are similar in design to the Victorian VLocity trains. According to Wikipedia the B series were manufactured in Maryborough so you are correct
I like the idea of a El line !
Would a tunnel allow better use of the land?
Probably too expensive
Yeah too much
Hi James, the construction and long-term operational costs for an underground solution are significant, and lowering the rail would still maintain a physical and visual barrier causing potential disruption to the community and limit opportunity for development. The benefits of elevated rail will make it safer to travel in the area, reduce congestion, and revitalise the community by unlocking land for increased public open space.
They are already using tunnels for the airport parts
@@metronetperth Is it regrettable that this crossing wasn't grade separated before the area was developed? Had it been done then, it could have been a really cheap and simple road-over or road-under separation.
Also, a road-based grade separation of a wooden gated level crossing surrounded by then-vacant land sounds way better than replacing the gates by booms and adding bells.
Meanwhile the PSP beside it is crap
they're apparently working on linking the psp between cannington and claisebrook
get ready for graffiti and a slum look after awhile... viaducts are so 1970s and it will just become a ugly eyesore. it should have been sunk
Viaducts go back to 1800, and are a cheaper, quicker, easier, and less destructive of nearby buildings than tunnelling option in challenging economic times
@@banksiasong somewhat true though tunnelling has improved and can have no impact on street level... but you said it right there challenging economic times.... in other words not even looking at the future... not even thinking about the growing city or how as most viaducts become dark rotten places for homeless graffiti etc... we went down thew path around the world of viaducts and we learnt in 2023 they are not the way but then again Perth is stuck in the past right!
Why not put it underground. Then you can use even more space (no bridges and pylons). Then it also won't block the view from my home. There will be less noise from the trains too, and if underground less people will have access to the tracks.
That is a lot more money, plus the soil Perth means that sinkholes are easily possible and has to be planned around
@@robertbruce2182 having travelled overseas many railways are underground (including sections of Perth rail) without sinkholes being an issue. It might cost a little more for some tasks but will save money overall. More land available, less concrete for bridges and stations, safer with no access to the tracks etc.