I don’t understand why they toned everything down in Bayo 3. The sexuality, the story, the damn end game dance… basically everything outside of gameplay. Seriously, Bayonetta’s ENTIRE BRAND is over-the-top, sexy, DMC-style violence - it’s not like the franchise could ever be anything less than M-Rated just by concept alone. Honestly wild how they messed it up.
Ok that’s what I thought too. I didn’t realize since I was so into the gameplay that she didn’t have as much swagger as before. It didn’t bother me at first but looking back on Bayo 1 & 2 her sexuality got toned down by “a lot” at least compared to the other games standards.
@@luisfillipebeserra2108 oh it was absolutely crucial, a part of me would rather sit through static cutscenes again if it meant we actually got all the good tiny details from bayo 1+2
Sorta, the singer for Moonlight Seranade was just not good at all. It sounded like she was singing through her nose and grated on the ears really badly compared to songs like Moon River.
Since they removed air to ground dodge offset the PPKKK combo that you start in the air become so much worse since you can no longer do the last K wicked weave
@user-io3jy2sx1p fr even the attack trails slower and less flashy, and they could’ve at least added Umbra Climax as a trigger since it doesn’t have demon masquerade
Yeah. I noticed that too! Removing air to ground dodge offset was a baffling move. It removes a lot of the combo complexity. I also hate that offsetting an attack with an Umbran Spear will now automatically convert your grounded combo into an aerial combo, even on grounded opponents. In a few ways, Bayo 3 watered down the combat system that I think Bayo 2 perfected. But at least they introduced a few new mechanics.
@@JulesThePsion not to be that guy but Bayo 2 didn't perfect the combat system, in fact it watered it down too by removing stuff like taunt offset and spin buffer
@@Averdein I think it’s due to not having cinematic attack scenes like in the first and second game, it’s just regular battle camera when she does the moves.
Of all the things they changed in Bayo 3, I couldn't believe they removed those moves that involved holding down ZR. They were so satisfying and I would use them alot, even in situations that didn't helped much but made me look badass.
OG Bayo 2 is better than Bayo 2/3. She’s faster, taller, her hits are harder/have more weight, and her exaggerated runway walk is perfect. Bayo 3 is a fun game but it definitely missed a couple of marks on what makes a Bayonetta game a Bayonetta game. Bayo in 3 can be toned down because she’s a different Bayonetta entirely. But when the game brings in the Bayonettas from 1 and 2, they shouldn’t be toned down too.
Exactly. I hope if they do patches or dlc they can fix the game and let it run 1080p. The very least smooth out the graphics. Gameplay is awesome but compared to devil may cry 5 ps4. Version the game looks are cut from a different cloth.
@@mbunji they are cut from different clothes lmao bayo 3 was made to run on a switch and dmc 5 was made with pc in mind and toned down to play on ps4/xbox1
She's not taller in 2 you half-wit. The camera is slightly farther in Bayo 3 than in 2, making her look ever so slightly smaller on screen. You litteraly have the comparison before your eyes and you can see that the proportions are exactly the same (meaning she appears slightly smaller in height but also in width). Also I really couldn't feel what you meant by "her hits are harder/have more weight". She indeed is slightly faster tho, _that's_ undeniably true.
@@Linkanator-xn6og just gotta watch out for the Bayonetta 3 extremist 💀. I mean Bayonetta 2 is like MILES better then 3. I still love 3 but b2 is the GOAT of the series
FYI, in Bayo 2 there was a trick with witch twist allowing you to gain infinite height, this was patched in Bayo 3 by making the midair version semispike all vertical momentum and would auto-cancel vertical height gain to only output one hit.
i mean it also depends on how they recorded it. if they recorded in docked mode or hand held mode. that being said i prefer the vibrancy of the colors in bayo 3 and i also think the models in bayo 3 are a mixed bag. I find bayo 2's model in b3 to be worse then 2, but bayo 1's model is a massive improvement compared to bayo 1 probably because they added make up to her face and its just overall better because its a massive time difference of technology.
@@Scyclo also the resolution in the game is kinda butchered for the bigger scale action because if you look at the actual models in the gallery or on the platinum yt channel, they actually look rlly good. Better than B2? idk but they look much better then this
Looking at the punches, it feels it doesn't have the same brutality as the second game due to the sound being toned down which helps a lot in showing the strong force of Bayonetta especially with Madama Butterfly's infinite climax. Now they dimmed her down to kitty slashes.
Thanks for the showcase! As someone who paid full price for Bayo 2 on the Wii U, I sure did appreciate Platinum locking me out of the moveset from the game I did my best to support 😘
Does anyone find that the butterfly steps have become too noticable? In the first game that only appeared when landing, in Bayo 2 they appered with every step and had a dim glow too bit it was quite subtle but in 3 they are really noticeable, too much glow, the butterflies are barely transparent and they even appear in cut scenes, also the in game kick a hit effects also appear in cut scenes, they just don't work there. Also why do the flowers glow when panther running?
I believe it like that due to all cutscene being in game in bayo 3 the last two have cinematic cutscene but yeah I hate how the buterfly steps are now in your face rather than being a subtle detail when she lands removes the magic from them
To all of those saying the game's quality got nerfed this is because Bayonetta 3 has much more demon scenes in it and all the high definition was given to them
@@Didi-yp8jx No problem ! I think this is overall a reduced quality for a better story and a better content too ! I only played a few chapters in Bayonetta 3 but Gomorrah already looks so wonderful as well as Madama Butterfly ! There were also bosses that look so detailed !
I'm glad more people are realizing Bayo 2 was best in quality. I knew this based on the second trailer of 3, but I will say I do like the storyline and concept of the latter. Just wish it managed in other aspects to hold up the bar 2 set. Also wish Helena was part of this to make it more worthwhile, but that situation is a mess😅
Is it just me, or is Bayo 3's version, while walking, makes a bigger sidestep with her right leg as opposed to Bayo 2 ? Bayo 2's version is walking straight, while Bayo 3's looks more like she's a bit drunk.
She kind of leans more in Bayo 3 and like you said, looks like she drank one too many at the dump. Ever just drink so much because you have to fight angels everyday so you don’t get dragged down that you start challenging gravity?
@@jeshuarestituyo284 It’s pretty good indication overall about the quality of B3 as opposed by previous 2. Reeeally troubled development. Great sadness. I need to check if B3 still has the “writing a B on the wall with basic fire button, like in 1.” Did you guys notice that ?
These complaints are so ridiculous like just because bayo 3 color plate is more bright with vibrant neon colors doesn’t make it visual ugly objectively I’m pretty sure people are on this petty unnecessary hate train for sole purpose of the story itself not being amazing smh and the story isn’t even that bad as people make it seem
they also made them worse, you can't dodge offset an air combo into a ground combo anymore and lib's PPKKK is completely missing because of it, no point to use the old guns when CmW doesn't have this problem because it has the same air and ground moveset lol
@@fishwasherr Yeah but CMW's masquerade offset is atrocious, it is the slowest of the 3 set of guns, feels the weakest and you cannot extend wicked weave combos, IMO the worst set of guns we've had in the series
@@fraeh3398 I too feel like it's probably the worst set so far. I just cannot get used to it. The wicked weave attacks feel weak in comparison to how they felt in the other sets.
Wanting to make a fun theory that when she did that Madama Butterfly stomp 3's Love is Blue doesnt lose clothing compared to 2 because she has demon slave
You need to buy the upgrade for the respictive gun, in crow form press A for the circle of fethers and Y to summon fethers projectiles, pressing Y again in any form allows you to shoot the fethers
Original is the best . Her hair animations , the angels and demons weren’t over the top and neon colored . Her new moves in the 3rd game are too much . Missed the mark
Just give us the colors from 3 and give the combat of 1. I adore all of the extra effects for attacks in 3, the glowing flowers for panther within, the blue butterflies when she walks instead of the ones from bayo 1, the flash of blue when finishing a combo with a wicked weave.
i find b3's over flashiness to be not great?? the demons are all like neon and the demon masquerade and butterflies feel more magical girl and less witch
Instead of complaining in the comments about what Bayonetta 3 didn't get right, I'm just gonna go play Bayo 1 and 2 because they're better games in general. Thank you for your time.
Yall this is hard... both games are fantastic. Of course OG B2 look crispier because graphics werent an issue for it's platform, B3 had to have graphics and resolution lowered. Her idle in B3 is beautiful lol...
When Bayonetta 1&2 were ported to Switch and the resolution stayed at 720p, this should have been an indication that the 3rd game wasn't going to look much better. In a lot of ways, Bayonetta 3 actually looks graphically worse than the predecessors. Platinum decided to increase the scale of the areas significantly and upped the rendering resolution by 12%. Basically the scale and scope of the game went beyond what the hardware could do. Its still a terrific game, but graphically speaking the choices they made for a less visually appealing experience.
B3 won awards despite our opinions. The game speed had to slow down a lil bigger bosses and set pieces. The bosses in B3 were the best of the series and DMC. The Janne episodes gave us a refreshing break. Viola did well. B2 needed to improve bc of Wii U. B2 push sales of switch B3 needed to have fun Boss battles. I'm looking for B4 when she kick ass and return to the land of the living
I don’t understand why they toned everything down in Bayo 3. The sexuality, the story, the damn end game dance… basically everything outside of gameplay. Seriously, Bayonetta’s ENTIRE BRAND is over-the-top, sexy, DMC-style violence - it’s not like the franchise could ever be anything less than M-Rated just by concept alone.
Honestly wild how they messed it up.
They nerfed her hips
Yes they did big time
Nintendo always did this ... Snake ... Mario ... and now ... Bayonetta
Ok that’s what I thought too. I didn’t realize since I was so into the gameplay that she didn’t have as much swagger as before. It didn’t bother me at first but looking back on Bayo 1 & 2 her sexuality got toned down by “a lot” at least compared to the other games standards.
@@joaobiaziolli8415 Nintendo has nothing to do with this, it was the development of bayo 3 that made this
@@luisfillipebeserra2108 its a joke boi, 'cause they butt off their characters
Is sad to see that the Wicked Weaves were removed from 3. Those were one of my favorite things about the Bayonetta series.
literally
They also removed the Wicked weave hair effect for both Bayo 1 and 2's outfits.
cant remove something they never considered as crucial apparently
@@leftlucid But was
@@luisfillipebeserra2108 oh it was absolutely crucial, a part of me would rather sit through static cutscenes again if it meant we actually got all the good tiny details from bayo 1+2
Wait I didn't notice that. With the way Jeanne got completely f*cked over, I very much hope an update is planned
They have the wicked weave hair effect actually but it's subtle and quickly fades.
all Bayonetta games got amazing Soundtrack
that's a fact!
Sorta, the singer for Moonlight Seranade was just not good at all. It sounded like she was singing through her nose and grated on the ears really badly compared to songs like Moon River.
Okay but....
why did they remove the full breakdance animation though!? that was the one thing I was looking forward to most!
Me tooo like they didn’t even replace the move just said nope this does nothing now
although it was really cool. it's probably because it was one of the most useless moves in the game.
RIGHTTT????????
You’re not talking about the move at 1:49?
@@nahhchill Isn’t the move at 1:49 the replacement?
Since they removed air to ground dodge offset the PPKKK combo that you start in the air become so much worse since you can no longer do the last K wicked weave
@user-io3jy2sx1p fr even the attack trails slower and less flashy, and they could’ve at least added Umbra Climax as a trigger since it doesn’t have demon masquerade
Yeah. I noticed that too! Removing air to ground dodge offset was a baffling move. It removes a lot of the combo complexity. I also hate that offsetting an attack with an Umbran Spear will now automatically convert your grounded combo into an aerial combo, even on grounded opponents. In a few ways, Bayo 3 watered down the combat system that I think Bayo 2 perfected. But at least they introduced a few new mechanics.
@@JulesThePsion not to be that guy but Bayo 2 didn't perfect the combat system, in fact it watered it down too by removing stuff like taunt offset and spin buffer
Meanwhile, Scarborough Fair gets two Wink Slaves on the Punch mash combo, further cementing the fact that they're the superior guns haha
@@Averdein I think it’s due to not having cinematic attack scenes like in the first and second game, it’s just regular battle camera when she does the moves.
Of all the things they changed in Bayo 3, I couldn't believe they removed those moves that involved holding down ZR. They were so satisfying and I would use them alot, even in situations that didn't helped much but made me look badass.
OG Bayo 2 is better than Bayo 2/3. She’s faster, taller, her hits are harder/have more weight, and her exaggerated runway walk is perfect. Bayo 3 is a fun game but it definitely missed a couple of marks on what makes a Bayonetta game a Bayonetta game. Bayo in 3 can be toned down because she’s a different Bayonetta entirely. But when the game brings in the Bayonettas from 1 and 2, they shouldn’t be toned down too.
Exactly. I hope if they do patches or dlc they can fix the game and let it run 1080p. The very least smooth out the graphics. Gameplay is awesome but compared to devil may cry 5 ps4. Version the game looks are cut from a different cloth.
Yessssssss let’s hope people don’t get upset about this comment haha
@@mbunji they are cut from different clothes lmao bayo 3 was made to run on a switch and dmc 5 was made with pc in mind and toned down to play on ps4/xbox1
She's not taller in 2 you half-wit.
The camera is slightly farther in Bayo 3 than in 2, making her look ever so slightly smaller on screen. You litteraly have the comparison before your eyes and you can see that the proportions are exactly the same (meaning she appears slightly smaller in height but also in width).
Also I really couldn't feel what you meant by "her hits are harder/have more weight".
She indeed is slightly faster tho, _that's_ undeniably true.
@@Linkanator-xn6og just gotta watch out for the Bayonetta 3 extremist 💀. I mean Bayonetta 2 is like MILES better then 3. I still love 3 but b2 is the GOAT of the series
the way the Bayo 1&2 costumes dont come off when she does a demon attack
Right like this is the PERFECT time for an exception to the rule 😭
FYI, in Bayo 2 there was a trick with witch twist allowing you to gain infinite height, this was patched in Bayo 3 by making the midair version semispike all vertical momentum and would auto-cancel vertical height gain to only output one hit.
The loss in quality between them for the models themselves is insane. I thought they looked sharper on 3 but it seems they are sharper on 2.
i mean it also depends on how they recorded it. if they recorded in docked mode or hand held mode. that being said i prefer the vibrancy of the colors in bayo 3 and i also think the models in bayo 3 are a mixed bag. I find bayo 2's model in b3 to be worse then 2, but bayo 1's model is a massive improvement compared to bayo 1 probably because they added make up to her face and its just overall better because its a massive time difference of technology.
@@Scyclo also the resolution in the game is kinda butchered for the bigger scale action because if you look at the actual models in the gallery or on the platinum yt channel, they actually look rlly good. Better than B2? idk but they look much better then this
Bayonetta and Bayonetta 2 are masterpieces compared to 3. Bayonetta 3 was lackluster in comparison.
Looking at the punches, it feels it doesn't have the same brutality as the second game due to the sound being toned down which helps a lot in showing the strong force of Bayonetta especially with Madama Butterfly's infinite climax.
Now they dimmed her down to kitty slashes.
Thanks for the showcase! As someone who paid full price for Bayo 2 on the Wii U, I sure did appreciate Platinum locking me out of the moveset from the game I did my best to support 😘
Careful, bayo3 stans will argue that it's a bonus for those who bought bayo2 for the switch ten times over.
Does anyone find that the butterfly steps have become too noticable? In the first game that only appeared when landing, in Bayo 2 they appered with every step and had a dim glow too bit it was quite subtle but in 3 they are really noticeable, too much glow, the butterflies are barely transparent and they even appear in cut scenes, also the in game kick a hit effects also appear in cut scenes, they just don't work there. Also why do the flowers glow when panther running?
I believe it like that due to all cutscene being in game in bayo 3 the last two have cinematic cutscene but yeah I hate how the buterfly steps are now in your face rather than being a subtle detail when she lands removes the magic from them
The flowers are a reference to Okami, a game that Platinum made when they were known as Clover Studios.
@@JOHNsoWhat94 I know, I'm mainly wondering why are flower glowing in bayo 3 becsuse in bayo 2 and 2 they were very subtle being quite transparent.
I dont care, reminds me of okami.
@@Garzaromera Sorry must have misread what your comment.
Platinum really should've waited on the release of this game to be fair. There's a lot missing from that game.
they made her so short in Bayo 3 :(
Its cause we're all used to bayo having freakishly long proportions in the 1st 2 games but in the 3rd they made her a lot more human like.
I think it might be the camera and scaling of the locations too
Not really… her hair is woven into the outfit..
@@pickles9009 her long proportions were better
@@Averdein yas
Her hair doesn’t even flair up when using a weave
I KNEW HER MOVES FELT SLOWER IN 3 WITH LiB GOD DAMN IT NO WONDER I FELT SO MUCH WORSE USING THEM
Can we please get a patch to get the breakdance back?!
To all of those saying the game's quality got nerfed this is because Bayonetta 3 has much more demon scenes in it and all the high definition was given to them
Nobody cares
@@haaendaaz3619 I'm pretty sure it's just you that don't care
@@haaendaaz3619 cared enough to comment
I understand now. Thank you for the explaination !
@@Didi-yp8jx No problem ! I think this is overall a reduced quality for a better story and a better content too ! I only played a few chapters in Bayonetta 3 but Gomorrah already looks so wonderful as well as Madama Butterfly ! There were also bosses that look so detailed !
I'm glad more people are realizing Bayo 2 was best in quality. I knew this based on the second trailer of 3, but I will say I do like the storyline and concept of the latter. Just wish it managed in other aspects to hold up the bar 2 set. Also wish Helena was part of this to make it more worthwhile, but that situation is a mess😅
Bayo 2 most underrated Bayonetta, hands down.
YEESSSSSssssss
I love her best ❤️
in my opinion Bayo2 is her most overrated game
Is it just me, or is Bayo 3's version, while walking, makes a bigger sidestep with her right leg as opposed to Bayo 2 ? Bayo 2's version is walking straight, while Bayo 3's looks more like she's a bit drunk.
She kind of leans more in Bayo 3 and like you said, looks like she drank one too many at the dump.
Ever just drink so much because you have to fight angels everyday so you don’t get dragged down that you start challenging gravity?
Bwhahha yoooo it does look like that 🤣🤣🤣
Great now I can’t stop looking at it like that omg 😂😂😂how they fucked Up her catwalk as welll
@@jeshuarestituyo284 It’s pretty good indication overall about the quality of B3 as opposed by previous 2. Reeeally troubled development. Great sadness.
I need to check if B3 still has the “writing a B on the wall with basic fire button, like in 1.” Did you guys notice that ?
At least they got the hair flow movement at the beginning right 😅
They removed the skull animation from her punches in 3
DUDE I KNEW IT WASNT JUST ME THINKING THE LOVE IS BLUE MOVES IN BAYO3 FEEL LIFELESS
Wdym whit that??
I agree. It feels familiar but it’s lacking soul
I’m sorry but did she get shorter? Idk if it’s just the camera😭
I think they made her propositions more "realistic". She looks really weird in her Bayo 1 outfit in the third game
@@jimjamsim ohhhh okay. I get it. But I kinda don’t like that, it’s one of things that made her unique yk?
@@tragic3820I am totally agreeing with you. One of the many things which Bayonetta was famous for was legs for days.
they completely nerfed the moveset by not being able to switch from air to ground combo making lib kinda worthless if you were good with it in 2
Bayonetta 2 it’s the best for me but I also love Bayonetta 3
These complaints are so ridiculous like just because bayo 3 color plate is more bright with vibrant neon colors doesn’t make it visual ugly objectively I’m pretty sure people are on this petty unnecessary hate train for sole purpose of the story itself not being amazing smh and the story isn’t even that bad as people make it seem
convince yourself
Bayo 3 is 360p while Bayo 2 is 720p... why?
Did they make LIB and SF slower? I've been replaying B1 and I feel 3x faster in that game
2 and 3 in general are slower than 1, 3 is a little close to 1 but 1 is just the absolute peak of Bayonetta's mechanics
Yes, when you look at the time the animations take in 2 vs 3 you can see that the combos are faster in 2. Might be the case with 1 as well!
they also made them worse, you can't dodge offset an air combo into a ground combo anymore and lib's PPKKK is completely missing because of it, no point to use the old guns when CmW doesn't have this problem because it has the same air and ground moveset lol
@@fishwasherr Yeah but CMW's masquerade offset is atrocious, it is the slowest of the 3 set of guns, feels the weakest and you cannot extend wicked weave combos, IMO the worst set of guns we've had in the series
@@fraeh3398 I too feel like it's probably the worst set so far. I just cannot get used to it. The wicked weave attacks feel weak in comparison to how they felt in the other sets.
Bayo 3's version seems slower mid-combo...
I'm guessing you can't use Umbran Climax?
Wanting to make a fun theory that when she did that Madama Butterfly stomp 3's Love is Blue doesnt lose clothing compared to 2 because she has demon slave
How to activate feather when using love is blue in bayonetta 3? Help
You need to buy the upgrade for the respictive gun, in crow form press A for the circle of fethers and Y to summon fethers projectiles, pressing Y again in any form allows you to shoot the fethers
What’s the name of the song that’s playing?
Tomorrow is mine
They have to fix the costume effects
They have to fix EVERYTHING at this point...
I just cannot buy this game. The differences really add up to being a disappointment for me.
Original is the best . Her hair animations , the angels and demons weren’t over the top and neon colored . Her new moves in the 3rd game are too much . Missed the mark
0:07 bayonetta in animorphs be like:
Just give us the colors from 3 and give the combat of 1.
I adore all of the extra effects for attacks in 3, the glowing flowers for panther within, the blue butterflies when she walks instead of the ones from bayo 1, the flash of blue when finishing a combo with a wicked weave.
i find b3's over flashiness to be not great?? the demons are all like neon and the demon masquerade and butterflies feel more magical girl and less witch
Is it just me who finds the new input for Witch Twist so fucking odd...why did they do that 😩
Why is her head so big
THERE IS A LOT OF BUTTY NERF
what song is this one
Tomorrow is mine
Instead of complaining in the comments about what Bayonetta 3 didn't get right, I'm just gonna go play Bayo 1 and 2 because they're better games in general. Thank you for your time.
Me when Im delulu :
Tea
@@brupts7297 get ha
Bro that’s a complaint.
Hahahahaha
love is nerfed
idk the graphic always icked me in bayo 3
Why do the model looks like it comes from Pokemon BDSP?? It looks chibby while bayo 2 looks stylized
Yall this is hard... both games are fantastic. Of course OG B2 look crispier because graphics werent an issue for it's platform, B3 had to have graphics and resolution lowered. Her idle in B3 is beautiful lol...
When Bayonetta 1&2 were ported to Switch and the resolution stayed at 720p, this should have been an indication that the 3rd game wasn't going to look much better. In a lot of ways, Bayonetta 3 actually looks graphically worse than the predecessors. Platinum decided to increase the scale of the areas significantly and upped the rendering resolution by 12%. Basically the scale and scope of the game went beyond what the hardware could do. Its still a terrific game, but graphically speaking the choices they made for a less visually appealing experience.
Piso que está mejor modelado en el golf mejor modelado en el 2
I kinda liked more the hair being animated in 2 but I also love it free flowing in bayo 3
Bayonetta 2 looks better
Gonna be honest the whole game is a turnoff, ugly textures, too bright, horrible story + ending. No Hellena Taylor
B3 won awards despite our opinions. The game speed had to slow down a lil bigger bosses and set pieces. The bosses in B3 were the best of the series and DMC. The Janne episodes gave us a refreshing break. Viola did well. B2 needed to improve bc of Wii U. B2 push sales of switch B3 needed to have fun Boss battles. I'm looking for B4 when she kick ass and return to the land of the living
Love is blue is my least favorite gun she has
3 looks like a mobile game
It's portable so
How does it look like a mobile game?
Big roast, but it's over the top. It looks far from that
She HAS THE SAME STANCE AS IN BAYO 2 OMG ...
( anyway the ending would've been better if she kissed Jeanne instead of Luka )
Stop trying to make Bayo and Jeanne a thing, weeb
The ending would be shit anyway
That would be even worse. They are sisters not lovers
Ayo wtf
@@12947325793 they are not sisters, just very close friends.
Bayonetta 3 looks like a cheap Chinese knockoff.
Bayo 3 graphics are terrible