I think the biggest reason for having it on the floor is to avoid reflections that can change the sound. Therefore, not everyone wants large racks or tables.
@@Yiannis2112 Good point, I've had underfloor oil heating system all round my house downstairs and in the winter you have to use them, I've had all my system horizontally on a metre high platform now and they're still up there due to my dogs and cats. I guess we all have to work round our surroundings whichever suits best.
I was an IT guy in my prior life and one of my duties was to fix computers that were malfunctioning. The people who kept their PC’s on the floor to save desk space used to have some pretty nasty looking internals when you opened those things up. Maybe just using some canned air every couple of months or so to keep the heatsinks on your amps clear would be “cool”.
Coming from the car audio world where the cleaner everything is built in the better, I had a hard time adjusting to the way 2 channel home audio equipment is either sitting on the floor or up on a cheap looking rack. I've come around a bit, but after many years now I still have it in the back of my mind that there has to be a better way to display such beautiful stuff. Just can't help myself for some reason!
Excellent, I have also pondered this topic and generally came to similar conclusions. Heat in a rack can also be a concern. I do not set my amps directly on the floor, but on a short stand similar to the ones you have in the video. Thanks as always Paul!
For me, I agree with Paul....generally no controls so less of a need to interact with power amplifiers. Surely it makes sense that your system is set up in the most ergonomic way for you to use, turntables or top loading decides on the top, easy to use, control units next for easy access to volume and inputs, other sources and then power amps out of the way. Saying that, I do have my audio research on top of one rack as it looks right and gets a little warm.... Heat is clearly an important consideration, you don't want a ton of heat underneath other components if they are closely spaced.
I have mine on the floor, because that's where it was best suited since I don't have space for it elsewhere... No other reason. I might have unknown audiophile genes in me.
1. They’re heavy. 2. Once you turn them on they aren’t touched anymore until you turn them off. 3. Rarely will you be moving them around once positioned. 4. Because they look so dang cool sitting low!!!! Lol
Funnily enough, I’m just starting to get serious about my setup and a friend of mine who has been into this as long as I can remember told me I should put my amp low down. I couldn’t see a good reason either but his setup does sound sweeter than mine so _down_ it went. Oh me back!
Also logical answer I feel is specific latent heat. Floor is also in a continuous process of transfer of thermal energy so helps to keep the amps cooler.
Amps are heavy... there are no control except on-off so you just bend one time to turn them on ! The speakers cables may be heavy and are REALLY expensive... so the closer the amps are from the floor, and the speakers's binding post... the better !
My two monoblocks are sitting on carpeted floor which, indeed, allows some fluff and dust to enter them through the ventilation holes. As a matter of practice I open them every six months and use the vacuum cleaner to clean the internals and keep the air flow free from blockages. This question might make me re think. I might consider put them on the lower levels of the rack after all! ... and they're bloody heavy too!..
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Hmmm!.. yes, that is a possibility Carlos. The only problem I see with that is, they will take more floor space being outside the main rack. Will see.. Thanks for the suggestion though. ;- )
@@oysteinsoreide4323 Well yes!.. I suppose you're making a valid point there Oystein. The problem has been solved! They're off the floor now on custom build timber platforms.
Sitting on/in carpet will interfere with cooling. NEVER use a vacuum on sophisticated electronics. The nozzle of a vacuum becomes a major generator of static electricity because of the constant, 1-way flow of air through it. Static can destroy transistors, surface-mounted devices, etc. There are designated vacuums for electronics...they are expensive and they are heavily grounded from nozzle to the motor.
I agree short cable length factors in a lot. Too long a Cable length can make for a more lagato sound for the signal even delaying the signal by a few milliseconds so having power amps right behind the speaker "pushes" the drivers with a lot more gusto, almost like how a car drives with a full tank of gas vs a quarter tank. It just feels more powerful and immediate. But that could be a why this goes into audiophile territory, so many x factors that make a great sounding system
An interesting question would have been, what kinds of interference does the floor generate? Why place amps on amplifier stands instead of directly on the floor? Why do people use cable lifts to elevate cabling off the ground? Does the floor possess unique kinds of interference and noise? "Hashtag ask better questions / answer better questions" :)
Hey Paul, How about a little info on “dirty power” like ground faulted supplied AC and power filters.I’ve had a couple service calls where after a move stacked units with transformers caused hum. Now I’m not talking about shelves or racks. I’m talking about high end units placed on top of one another temporarily. The field effect between the two main power amps and preamp hummed until separated on a horizontal plane. They hadn’t received their custom racks yet and thought they had “dirty power” which I have found in large apartment or modern housing complexes with centralized power. What type of power conditioners do you like for pro audio? ( recording and listening ) Thanks , appreciate and enjoy your show..
My opinion is that you should have the amplifier on the preamp and the sound source side by side to avoid long wires. I prefer to use a maximum of 1 meter signal cable between. The shorter the wire the better.
Your comment about short speaker cables and long interconnects failed to mention your use of Balanced interconnects with XLR plugs . Probably should be the other way around using RCA interconnects .JMO
I can tell you a computer placed on floor will get clogged with dust a lot sooner than a computer 6" off the floor. At one time I maintained hundreds of computers and the ones on the floor had to be cleaned out a lot more often, the clouds of dust that enveloped them when I put them in the glove box was just amazing - I was glad not to be filtering that dust through my lungs. These computers had fans so they were actively drawing air in through the front so they would get dustier than something that was passive;y cooled.
My power Amp is on the floor cause is too heavy for glass rack i had. Also on the floor, without rack, Has better ventilation ( my power Amp is really getting hot sometimes). And of course i got rid of my rack because i dont Want anything between my speakers. Just like Paul said
There is cooler on the floor - amps run hot. You have better cable management this way and can be shorter (so it's cheaper), you don't need expensive racks and they are very safe on the floor, since nothing can trips them or fall down. And most important for me they do not interfere with stereo imaging! I heard a big (for me) difference when I removed racks and just placed electronics on the ground having more air behind/around my speakers.
Hai Paul, what is the difference in the wattage between Pa amp and power amp like crown 4000w and 2x200w? Can I use a pro amp with a equalizer for a tight, deep and punchy bass? Because I need heart thumping bass only and don't want to spend for 99.9 channel,HDMI, Dolby,Dts,prologic something like this which I don't know about! Pls advise.
This is just my two cents. You should evaluate Pro amps under real-world conditions; if you are just going by the numbers they tend to exaggerate their specs. BTW, some of those Pro amps use 120V/20A or 240V/30A power, so you will need to supply that.
But Paul, yours are low, but they aren't really on the floor, are they? They are elevated on low stands/shelves. And I like that. Why? If they were literally on the floor, the carpet in your room, I would be a bit concerned about air circulation and heat dissipation.
I have my integrated amp (Magnat RV3) on the lowest shelf of the rack the reason being in it weighs 19kg and the other shelves in the rack won't hold it.
It’s a little cooler temperature-wise down low, I guess. Also, if the power amps are up high the wire effectively makes a “U”shape instead of an “L” which is more efficient in terms of speaker wire usage
Mike crelly Yeah. In a modern mirrorless or DSLR camera with a video recording feature, its possible to “lock the exposure” so that it doesn’t keep on adjusting. Its more a matter of getting the right combination of settings which includes “white balance” which you set to account for the type of lighting you have in the scene.
Weight is my issue!!! I keep my amps in a Rack(rolling) case with lots of ventilation in a closet just off the main listening room even modern transformers are heavy.
Best single reason is imaging. Less in the way to interfere with the sound waves. But, at the same time I do IT work and can tell you the dirt difference near or at the floor is nigh and day compared to say a foot. Most dust is human skin and we produce a wake of air when we move. That's why on a bare floor you'll see dirt buildup along the walls in a hallway, but a clean area in the middle where we walk. I can set a computer at 12" and maybe blow a small amount of dust particles out every six months. But, a computer on the floor is going to be at the same level and potentially worse in thirty days.
Hey this is a good question and I’ve wondered the same thing. I’ve seen high end turntables on the floor, what the hell?? I have my stuff on a nice rack...and man, I love that rack! My amp is on the bottom, and I have stuff I use more, turntable and preamp on the top 2 shelves so they’re easy for me to reach.
Personally I think the question is way too pre- school. Two large mono blocks and two even larger power regenerators renders a rack setup extremely impractical. Not quite sure why the question even has to be addressed by Paul. Add the multiple box source and preamp...christ you'd need a form of scaffolding to house it 🤐
I’d say that is easily debunked by simply looking at different peoples high end systems. It seems to me, their mostly on racks. On the bottom, for obvious reasons. Some are on the floor. But even most of those are on stands. I think dude asking the question was probly thinking along the lines of performance difference, keeping these massive components away from other front end gear, as it’s obvious to keep em low so u don’t have to lift heavy things up
computers are kept off the floor because dust is the enemy which is sucked in by cooling fan. Amps have grills which lets dusts in so that may be an issue.
Putting heavier stuff closer to the ground not only makes sense in terms of the effort/energy you dispense of to place them as it makes more sense visual. From the visual stand point, heavier things on top of lighter stuff would look award, displaced and weird and would be more let's say stressful, to look at.
Maybe u could turn on automatic exposure lock to avoid the exposure changing every second while u make for example hand gestures in the video. Shortly said it would improve the overall watching experience.
My first thought is that it's cooler closer to the floor. Although only marginally, but it helps to keep the amps a little cooler. IMO. I could never figure out why they put AC units in an attic????? Hotter than the hubs of hell up there.
Firstly you can sit on them ... why don't you fit castors under them as they are so heavy? The air is cooler lower down and the power sockets are the same level ...
Better imaging is more than anything else, really. Placing components at front wall is the common norm for main reason of space constraint. More serious listeners would place at side wall and could be at a recessed space with a sound treatment door. Speaker cables are much more expensive than ic, normally. Not sure, when everything is equal, shorter speaker cable and longer ic has better sounds??
You never want to place an amplifier or any equipment for that matter directly on the floor. In most cases equipment is placed on some kind of rack or shelving near the floor. Id even say keep your cables as well picked up from touching the floor.
Why would I put a box with no controls on it at the top of my rack and the turntable at the bottom? I wouldn't, that makes no sense, question answered.
Not everyone has space like you for audio equipment, so are you saying that putting audio equipment in racks you degrade the performance or just too much of a hassle to do it?
Gravity. If there's an earthquake, an amp on the floor has less chance of crushing someone. If you have pets, it's easier for them to climb up to get warm. Audiophiles can't be bothered buying furniture to put equipment on.
I had to hire a crane to lift my amps off of the railroad car and freight them across town to be loaded onto my second floor through removed windows. They are too heavy for my rack.
There's more pressure build up from the low frequencies the closer you get to a surface (in this case the floor) that could contribute to altering the sound from the components. Maybe? Who knows..
Everybody knows, since Archimedes discovered, that there are more electrons as you go down, so on the floor, the power amp can used the most electrons and thus giving bigger power output... /s (keeping up with the channel bullshit).
They're too heavy for most equipment racks but they have to remain visible because putting them out of sight in a closet even with adequate ventilation doesn't fit the audio shrine narrative.
He is talking about the other imaging, when you hear the voice between the speakers and you look at a giant black rack stuff in it with lights. Instead of the back wall that has nothing so you can imagin how it would look like. I guess ! not 100%,
The phantom centre image is usually suspended above ground level. So keep the boxes low to the ground. A bulky rack of equipment in that 'space' will almost certainly interfere with it.
@@mag-wp6yt i have a crappy computer speaker set in my room. the computer monitor is right between the satellites and the imaging is just as good as it could possibly be, the sound is like coming from behind the monitor (which, in that area, is the computer) with height and depth and everything. the speakers don't embody the sound in a space to create a stereo image or anything like that, that's a hell of a fantasy. it's the direct sound from the speakers themselves that creates the image through phase and amplitude. so... bummer, i guess?
Keeping up with his bullshit, I was expecting him to say it sounds better :)) I don't know, maybe the EMI noise is lower near concrete or some other bullshit reason :)
How about the "fruit nuts" with cement ears and a modest system who can't hear any differences yet constantly criticise those with better hearing and systems?
Larry, Larry, Larry... I guess if u watch enough Seinfeld, u'd end up eating chocolate with folk and knife too. BECAUSE THESE BEHEMOTHS ARE HEAVY that's why. Were you looking for an high end reason? If u watched Paul's episode and u saw what Paul has in this home, there, he placed everything on a single rack. So, is mostly mundane practically, nothing electrons run better if placed near the floor.
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If it's already on the floor it can't fall
Was always informed that the air is cooler near the floor, heat raises
Even with a rack, you need to put the heaviest components on the bottom, this way, you have a low center of gravity and avoid risk of falling over.
Imagine your listening room falling over! 😂
Qorax Domino day
It's cooler on the floor. Amps are hot. Good enough reason for me.
Good point
And that’s the reason why we don’t stack anyhing else up on the power amps, to let them dissipate heat better.
I think the biggest reason for having it on the floor is to avoid reflections that can change the sound. Therefore, not everyone wants large racks or tables.
Generally yes, but what about cranked up, underfloor heating systems during heavy winter time?
@@Yiannis2112 Good point, I've had underfloor oil heating system all round my house downstairs and in the winter you have to use them, I've had all my system horizontally on a metre high platform now and they're still up there due to my dogs and cats. I guess we all have to work round our surroundings whichever suits best.
I was an IT guy in my prior life and one of my duties was to fix computers that were malfunctioning. The people who kept their PC’s on the floor to save desk space used to have some pretty nasty looking internals when you opened those things up. Maybe just using some canned air every couple of months or so to keep the heatsinks on your amps clear would be “cool”.
most amps are passively cooled, no fans to suck in dust like a PC.
It looks COOL
Coming from the car audio world where the cleaner everything is built in the better, I had a hard time adjusting to the way 2 channel home audio equipment is either sitting on the floor or up on a cheap looking rack. I've come around a bit, but after many years now I still have it in the back of my mind that there has to be a better way to display such beautiful stuff. Just can't help myself for some reason!
Excellent, I have also pondered this topic and generally came to similar conclusions. Heat in a rack can also be a concern. I do not set my amps directly on the floor, but on a short stand similar to the ones you have in the video. Thanks as always Paul!
For me, I agree with Paul....generally no controls so less of a need to interact with power amplifiers. Surely it makes sense that your system is set up in the most ergonomic way for you to use, turntables or top loading decides on the top, easy to use, control units next for easy access to volume and inputs, other sources and then power amps out of the way. Saying that, I do have my audio research on top of one rack as it looks right and gets a little warm.... Heat is clearly an important consideration, you don't want a ton of heat underneath other components if they are closely spaced.
I have mine on the floor, because that's where it was best suited since I don't have space for it elsewhere... No other reason.
I might have unknown audiophile genes in me.
Also, having speaker cables come out from the floor rather than high up probably makes cable management a lot easier.
1. They’re heavy.
2. Once you turn them on they aren’t touched anymore until you turn them off.
3. Rarely will you be moving them around once positioned.
4. Because they look so dang cool sitting low!!!! Lol
Speaker terminals are typically near the floor (on floorstanding models, of course.) Coincidence?
In vinyl era, it seemed wise to keep the large amp transformers FAR from the pickup cartridge to avoid induced hum.
Funnily enough, I’m just starting to get serious about my setup and a friend of mine who has been into this as long as I can remember told me I should put my amp low down. I couldn’t see a good reason either but his setup does sound sweeter than mine so _down_ it went.
Oh me back!
Lovely wardrobes
Also logical answer I feel is specific latent heat. Floor is also in a continuous process of transfer of thermal energy so helps to keep the amps cooler.
Amps are heavy... there are no control except on-off so you just bend one time to turn them on ! The speakers cables may be heavy and are REALLY expensive... so the closer the amps are from the floor, and the speakers's binding post... the better !
My two monoblocks are sitting on carpeted floor which, indeed, allows some fluff and dust to enter them through the ventilation holes.
As a matter of practice I open them every six months and use the vacuum cleaner to clean the internals and keep the air flow free from blockages.
This question might make me re think.
I might consider put them on the lower levels of the rack after all! ... and they're bloody heavy too!..
You can put them on amp stands which will raise them a few inches.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
Hmmm!.. yes, that is a possibility Carlos. The only problem I see with that is, they will take more floor space being outside the main rack.
Will see.. Thanks for the suggestion though. ;- )
They should never be placed directly on a carpet, but raised on a shelf a couple of inches above the floor.
@@oysteinsoreide4323
Well yes!.. I suppose you're making a valid point there Oystein.
The problem has been solved! They're off the floor now on custom build timber platforms.
Sitting on/in carpet will interfere with cooling.
NEVER use a vacuum on sophisticated electronics. The nozzle of a vacuum becomes a major generator of static electricity because of the constant, 1-way flow of air through it. Static can destroy transistors, surface-mounted devices, etc.
There are designated vacuums for electronics...they are expensive and they are heavily grounded from nozzle to the motor.
I agree short cable length factors in a lot. Too long a Cable length can make for a more lagato sound for the signal even delaying the signal by a few milliseconds so having power amps right behind the speaker "pushes" the drivers with a lot more gusto, almost like how a car drives with a full tank of gas vs a quarter tank. It just feels more powerful and immediate. But that could be a why this goes into audiophile territory, so many x factors that make a great sounding system
My Mark Levinson amp is 92 lbs. So it sits on the floor.
That 1m difference isn't going to make a difference. The real reason is that these amps weigh a ton...
An interesting question would have been, what kinds of interference does the floor generate? Why place amps on amplifier stands instead of directly on the floor? Why do people use cable lifts to elevate cabling off the ground? Does the floor possess unique kinds of interference and noise? "Hashtag ask better questions / answer better questions" :)
lol…
Hey Paul, How about a little info on “dirty power” like ground faulted supplied AC and power filters.I’ve had a couple service calls where after a move stacked units with transformers caused hum.
Now I’m not talking about shelves or racks. I’m talking about high end units placed on top of one another temporarily. The field effect between the two main power amps and preamp hummed until separated on a horizontal plane. They hadn’t received their custom racks yet and thought they had “dirty power” which I have found in large apartment or modern housing complexes with centralized power.
What type of power conditioners do you like for pro audio? ( recording and listening )
Thanks , appreciate and enjoy your show..
My opinion is that you should have the amplifier on the preamp and the sound source side by side to avoid long wires. I prefer to use a maximum of 1 meter signal cable between. The shorter the wire the better.
Your comment about short speaker cables and long interconnects failed to mention your use of Balanced interconnects with XLR plugs . Probably should be the other way around using RCA interconnects .JMO
Yes, he said exactly that in an other video.
I can tell you a computer placed on floor will get clogged with dust a lot sooner than a computer 6" off the floor. At one time I maintained hundreds of computers and the ones on the floor had to be cleaned out a lot more often, the clouds of dust that enveloped them when I put them in the glove box was just amazing - I was glad not to be filtering that dust through my lungs.
These computers had fans so they were actively drawing air in through the front so they would get dustier than something that was passive;y cooled.
My power Amp is on the floor cause is too heavy for glass rack i had. Also on the floor, without rack, Has better ventilation ( my power Amp is really getting hot sometimes). And of course i got rid of my rack because i dont Want anything between my speakers. Just like Paul said
Using a broad atacama rack, 2 components side by side, so overall it is low. And fits underneath the tv :)
Mr. PS Audio, Why are you running two P20s?
I just noticed they're running four P20s with a BHK mono block sitting on the end on each side. The video shows the other side after awhile.
There is cooler on the floor - amps run hot. You have better cable management this way and can be shorter (so it's cheaper), you don't need expensive racks and they are very safe on the floor, since nothing can trips them or fall down. And most important for me they do not interfere with stereo imaging! I heard a big (for me) difference when I removed racks and just placed electronics on the ground having more air behind/around my speakers.
Hai Paul, what is the difference in the wattage between Pa amp and power amp like crown 4000w and 2x200w? Can I use a pro amp with a equalizer for a tight, deep and punchy bass? Because I need heart thumping bass only and don't want to spend for 99.9 channel,HDMI, Dolby,Dts,prologic something like this which I don't know about! Pls advise.
This is just my two cents. You should evaluate Pro amps under real-world conditions; if you are just going by the numbers they tend to exaggerate their specs. BTW, some of those Pro amps use 120V/20A or 240V/30A power, so you will need to supply that.
But Paul, yours are low, but they aren't really on the floor, are they? They are elevated on low stands/shelves. And I like that. Why? If they were literally on the floor, the carpet in your room, I would be a bit concerned about air circulation and heat dissipation.
I have my integrated amp (Magnat RV3) on the lowest shelf of the rack the reason being in it weighs 19kg and the other shelves in the rack won't hold it.
and the rack you'd need to use for amps/power Plants etc would need to incredibly strong and might look a bit industrial.
Honest answer👍
It’s a little cooler temperature-wise down low, I guess. Also, if the power amps are up high the wire effectively makes a “U”shape instead of an “L” which is more efficient in terms of speaker wire usage
One more thing.... Paul !!!! You are hereby directed to play the IRS V for us, everytime you're in this music room... pretty please !!!
Why is the lighting fluctuating so much? Is that sunlight that is being shaded by passing clouds?
Swinde Its probably the camera trying to auto focus and auto expose properly.
The listening room has no windows.
I've seen that in other videos too! I wonder if you can turn that off in the settings?
Mike crelly Yeah. In a modern mirrorless or DSLR camera with a video recording feature, its possible to “lock the exposure” so that it doesn’t keep on adjusting. Its more a matter of getting the right combination of settings which includes “white balance” which you set to account for the type of lighting you have in the scene.
Weight is my issue!!! I keep my amps in a Rack(rolling) case with lots of ventilation in a closet just off the main listening room even modern transformers are heavy.
Best single reason is imaging. Less in the way to interfere with the sound waves. But, at the same time I do IT work and can tell you the dirt difference near or at the floor is nigh and day compared to say a foot. Most dust is human skin and we produce a wake of air when we move. That's why on a bare floor you'll see dirt buildup along the walls in a hallway, but a clean area in the middle where we walk. I can set a computer at 12" and maybe blow a small amount of dust particles out every six months. But, a computer on the floor is going to be at the same level and potentially worse in thirty days.
I put my guitar amp head on the floor because I put my cabinet facing straight up. This allows me to be as loud as I want (within reason...)!
So, having unequal length power cables will make my system sound worse?
Cos they are very heavy
Everything is on the bar. I need to access controls on the M2A and don't want to be tripping over that. I don't have clutter free area like you Paul.
If the amps are on a rack behind the speakers, educate me on how imaging is impacted?
They need serious cooling. Good luck on keeping them stacked in a rack!
Hey this is a good question and I’ve wondered the same thing. I’ve seen high end turntables on the floor, what the hell?? I have my stuff on a nice rack...and man, I love that rack! My amp is on the bottom, and I have stuff I use more, turntable and preamp on the top 2 shelves so they’re easy for me to reach.
Personally I think the question is way too pre- school. Two large mono blocks and two even larger power regenerators renders a rack setup extremely impractical. Not quite sure why the question even has to be addressed by Paul. Add the multiple box source and preamp...christ you'd need a form of scaffolding to house it 🤐
I’d say that is easily debunked by simply looking at different peoples high end systems. It seems to me, their mostly on racks. On the bottom, for obvious reasons. Some are on the floor. But even most of those are on stands. I think dude asking the question was probly thinking along the lines of performance difference, keeping these massive components away from other front end gear, as it’s obvious to keep em low so u don’t have to lift heavy things up
Less floor to sweep!
I think imaging is by far the best reason not to put anything between or behind your speakers. Except for diffusers etc.
computers are kept off the floor because dust is the enemy which is sucked in by cooling fan. Amps have grills which lets dusts in so that may be an issue.
Putting heavier stuff closer to the ground not only makes sense in terms of the effort/energy you dispense of to place them as it makes more sense visual. From the visual stand point, heavier things on top of lighter stuff would look award, displaced and weird and would be more let's say stressful, to look at.
Maybe u could turn on automatic exposure lock to avoid the exposure changing every second while u make for example hand gestures in the video. Shortly said it would improve the overall watching experience.
I also wondered why equipment was on the floor?
My first thought is that it's cooler closer to the floor. Although only marginally, but it helps to keep the amps a little cooler. IMO. I could never figure out why they put AC units in an attic????? Hotter than the hubs of hell up there.
If I want the amplifiers disappeared, can I place it below the floor (like Dracula’s bed with aircon) ?
Because they make good warm chairs.
Hell ya they look kinda cool 😎
Well you could have said the air is cooler near the floor and as heat rises the convection keeps the amps cooler.
Firstly you can sit on them ... why don't you fit castors under them as they are so heavy? The air is cooler lower down and the power sockets are the same level ...
The person asking the question should look up: 19" rack mount power amplifier
Why
Paul. Can you speak to the spec” dynamic range” and how it effects the sound definition and accuracy along wt sound imaging??
BUT, keeping the power amp on the bottom shelf of a cabinet lends a heavier base to the entire structure.
Hey !!!!!!! It's the 'Paul Shuffle' @ 1.45min
Better imaging is more than anything else, really.
Placing components at front wall is the common norm for main reason of space constraint.
More serious listeners would place at side wall and could be at a recessed space with a sound treatment door.
Speaker cables are much more expensive than ic, normally.
Not sure, when everything is equal, shorter speaker cable and longer ic has better sounds??
You never want to place an amplifier or any equipment for that matter directly on the floor. In most cases equipment is placed on some kind of rack or shelving near the floor. Id even say keep your cables as well picked up from touching the floor.
My rack is 2 feets high, I can't see that that one would interfere with the sound.
Those amps don't have a fan so dust is not going to be drawn into the amp. Computers do have fans so it's best to elevate a computer off the fan.
Simple answer is they are big and heavy so the closer to the floor they are the lest likely they will fall off and get damaged
Why would I put a box with no controls on it at the top of my rack and the turntable at the bottom? I wouldn't, that makes no sense, question answered.
It comes with a free seat warmer!
Lol man after my own heart paul i like the set up .folkes just vacum your carpets more often problem solved 🤔🤔🤔
Not everyone has space like you for audio equipment, so are you saying that putting audio equipment in racks you degrade the performance or just too much of a hassle to do it?
I don’t understand the imaging argument. The sound isn’t coming from between the speakers. It’s an illusion.
Man those columns of EMIM's and EMIT's.....yummy.
"It looks kind of cool" I love these kind of explanations from audiophiles who spend thousands of dollars just for cables.
Gravity. If there's an earthquake, an amp on the floor has less chance of crushing someone. If you have pets, it's easier for them to climb up to get warm. Audiophiles can't be bothered buying furniture to put equipment on.
I had to hire a crane to lift my amps off of the railroad car and freight them across town to be loaded onto my second floor through removed windows. They are too heavy for my rack.
what kind are they? they sound gimungous
There's more pressure build up from the low frequencies the closer you get to a surface (in this case the floor) that could contribute to altering the sound from the components. Maybe? Who knows..
No room in a rack.Think about how high your rack would be if that wear
Heat.
Everybody knows, since Archimedes discovered, that there are more electrons as you go down, so on the floor, the power amp can used the most electrons and thus giving bigger power output... /s (keeping up with the channel bullshit).
lmao..hogwash….
They're too heavy for most equipment racks but they have to remain visible because putting them out of sight in a closet even with adequate ventilation doesn't fit the audio shrine narrative.
Ummm, every body else does.
Amps needs cold air, space all around and the rack was full
Audiophiles are just as weird as ham radio guys..
Cosmic Charlie truth lol
Shorter cable runs and less cost.
i do the same.remowd table from roo m also.devices dep behind,way better.see
My imaging 😱 reeeeeeeeeeeeee
My friend pretty much did it to make his wife angry.
cause they are freakin' heavy
Center of gravity.
putting an amp higher up interferes with imaging?? ehhhhhhhhhh~
He is talking about the other imaging, when you hear the voice between the speakers and you look at a giant black rack stuff in it with lights. Instead of the back wall that has nothing so you can imagin how it would look like.
I guess ! not 100%,
@@Quetzalcoatl0 i don't know, he's been relating reflected sound with imaging for a long time already.
@My Name who knows? maybe there's some kind of weird multi-dimensional quantum trick or something.
The phantom centre image is usually suspended above ground level. So keep the boxes low to the ground. A bulky rack of equipment in that 'space' will almost certainly interfere with it.
@@mag-wp6yt i have a crappy computer speaker set in my room. the computer monitor is right between the satellites and the imaging is just as good as it could possibly be, the sound is like coming from behind the monitor (which, in that area, is the computer) with height and depth and everything. the speakers don't embody the sound in a space to create a stereo image or anything like that, that's a hell of a fantasy. it's the direct sound from the speakers themselves that creates the image through phase and amplitude. so... bummer, i guess?
They look cooler and are cooler
Its on the floor because with its price there is no money left for a table, stand of rack.
Because we are old and already have our hernias...?
Keeping up with his bullshit, I was expecting him to say it sounds better :)) I don't know, maybe the EMI noise is lower near concrete or some other bullshit reason :)
If they are up in the air, they are in the sound path, which is not beneficial. Racks that strong would cost/waste a lot of money.
Umm. Then why are guitar and bass amps usually on top of speaker cabs?
Convenience of control knobs.
It is an effective vibration test. Cold solder joints will surely become problematic if they exist :)
What about the fruit nuts who claim that vibration affects amp output so they have a maple or marble or cement base along with "decoupling" cones?
How about the "fruit nuts" with cement ears and a modest system who can't hear any differences yet constantly criticise those with better hearing and systems?
Such an elementary question, as are most. I think it's time we moved on to more complex matters.
Larry, Larry, Larry... I guess if u watch enough Seinfeld, u'd end up eating chocolate with folk and knife too. BECAUSE THESE BEHEMOTHS ARE HEAVY that's why. Were you looking for an high end reason? If u watched Paul's episode and u saw what Paul has in this home, there, he placed everything on a single rack. So, is mostly mundane practically, nothing electrons run better if placed near the floor.