Spirit Bomb vs Dragon Fist - Goku's Trump Card

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  • @justinlynch3
    @justinlynch3 4 роки тому +528

    I always felt like Dragon Fist was the evolution of Kid Goku's Oozaru Fist that he killed King Piccolo with in Dragon Ball.

  • @ThatOneMotherfucker
    @ThatOneMotherfucker 4 роки тому +360

    Goku: *turns into a Dragon*
    Jiren: *has PTSD from dragons ruining his life*

    • @khaliphileskosana4536
      @khaliphileskosana4536 4 роки тому +21

      Shoyomomo?

    • @ThatOneMotherfucker
      @ThatOneMotherfucker 4 роки тому +2

      @@khaliphileskosana4536 yep

    • @ZeothTheHedgehog
      @ZeothTheHedgehog 4 роки тому

      @@ThatOneMotherfucker when did dragons ruin jiren's life?

    • @ZeothTheHedgehog
      @ZeothTheHedgehog 4 роки тому

      @@afinnishfishnet7366 Xd

    • @tercelhenry7374
      @tercelhenry7374 4 роки тому +9

      GT Goku:"All this fighting is making me hungry!"
      Jiren prepares his attack
      Announcer:"Goku Wi.....!?"
      Jiren attacks Shenron🐉
      Jiren:"F**k that dragon"
      Announcer"Jiren Wins!"

  • @vigneshs9587
    @vigneshs9587 4 роки тому +315

    I really want to see the dragon fist once again

    • @AngrySpartan
      @AngrySpartan 4 роки тому +2

      Who doesn't?

    • @padmavathys9372
      @padmavathys9372 4 роки тому

      Bro neenga ingayum irrukingala?

    • @ShanMichaelEscasio
      @ShanMichaelEscasio 4 роки тому +8

      Ultra instinct dragon fist!

    • @noeltv3728
      @noeltv3728 4 роки тому

      If you wanna see it over & over again, just play Street Fighter. It is just SHORYUKEN.

    • @ChrellMax
      @ChrellMax 4 роки тому

      As much I wanna see it, that move is super serious and super Goku is anything but serious I doubt he’d use it

  • @BigRig97
    @BigRig97 4 роки тому +452

    The Dragon Fist, to me, will always be Goku’s best technique.

  • @GnG_Gaming
    @GnG_Gaming 4 роки тому +289

    People arguing about which move is superior:
    Me an intellectual: spirit bomb absorbed dragon fist (From budokai 3)

  • @LordYamcha
    @LordYamcha 4 роки тому +359

    Finally Geekdoms said it- I don't care about canon it's about what we like

    • @menoknow4622
      @menoknow4622 4 роки тому +19

      Im confused about that, He sometimes talk about something not being canon but then he says that he hates when people use that word, Im a fan but i just need someone to explain to me what he means with that

    • @oscarmendoza4403
      @oscarmendoza4403 4 роки тому +24

      Bryan V He mentioned it at the start, it only bothers him when people use canon to discredit an argument.

    • @LordYamcha
      @LordYamcha 4 роки тому +4

      @@oscarmendoza4403 exactly

    • @menoknow4622
      @menoknow4622 4 роки тому

      @@LordYamcha ok thx

    • @froger9973
      @froger9973 4 роки тому +8

      Exactly, it's still part of dragon ball canon or not canon.

  • @thatonedude2159
    @thatonedude2159 4 роки тому +218

    The fact they still didn't make the Dragon Fist a canon technique is saddening. It's such a cool move I hope they would bring back in the future.

  • @zekiel2533
    @zekiel2533 4 роки тому +129

    I didn't think he'll Ever use the dragonfist in Dragonball super.
    I hope he does one day.

    • @bbqseitan7106
      @bbqseitan7106 4 роки тому +3

      Maybe Gogeta will use it

    • @Flarrow179
      @Flarrow179 4 роки тому +2

      bbq seitan like in buu’s fury

    • @z.incognito6259
      @z.incognito6259 4 роки тому

      A fellow Zekiel. My names Ezechiel

    • @Mr.S550
      @Mr.S550 4 роки тому +5

      Zekiel - Hopefully Toyotaro finds a way to make it canon in the manga

  • @KD-pi4zl
    @KD-pi4zl 4 роки тому +25

    I love how this turned from a debate
    To a dragon fist rant😂

  • @saiyangod-wq9ux
    @saiyangod-wq9ux 4 роки тому +175

    Canon does not matter in dragonball except for heroes u can't take that seriously

    • @cash2346
      @cash2346 4 роки тому +23

      saiyangod 41205 I just don’t like it when people hate on GT for not being cannon I mean they made some great ideas for arks, like tuffals and the dragon balls making the strongest villains I mean come on I don’t think they realized how strong they made omega shenron

    • @chrono2208
      @chrono2208 4 роки тому +1

      The anime , or manga and games ?

    • @LordYamcha
      @LordYamcha 4 роки тому +1

      @@cash2346 exactly

    • @cursedseeker1273
      @cursedseeker1273 4 роки тому +2

      It kind of matters , the example is right here , if dragon fist was Canon Goku would have already used it multiple times

    • @czar17_28
      @czar17_28 4 роки тому +4

      I hate when people complain like Heroes is supposed to have any sort of concrete story.

  • @QuayDawgg
    @QuayDawgg 4 роки тому +26

    signature move: Kamehameha
    finisher: Spirit Bomb
    trump card: Dragon Fist

    • @PlushMaker400
      @PlushMaker400 4 роки тому +1

      To be honest, Kamehameha is in both Signature Move Tier and Finisher Tier.

    • @alexthegreat46
      @alexthegreat46 4 роки тому +2

      tbh the spirit bomb isn't a reliable finisher considering it always fails (it worked once on kid buu, which wouldn't have worked without the dragon balls)

    • @QuayDawgg
      @QuayDawgg 4 роки тому +2

      @@alexthegreat46 They can't all be stone cold stunners ;)

    • @prime7042
      @prime7042 3 роки тому

      Trump Card is the genki dama
      Finisher is the dragon fist

  • @kiiboi249
    @kiiboi249 4 роки тому +50

    Jiren would probably have a panick attack if Goku used the Dragon fist
    We know he *hates dragons*

    • @ZeothTheHedgehog
      @ZeothTheHedgehog 4 роки тому +2

      Wait he does or is it a joke

    • @kiiboi249
      @kiiboi249 4 роки тому +2

      Zerosonic animations it’s a joke from the English Dub line Jiren said. And I quote “I trust no one, even Dragons”

    • @SayakaSoulGem
      @SayakaSoulGem 4 роки тому

      Shoyoumomo!

    • @Naruku2121
      @Naruku2121 4 роки тому

      @@kiiboi249 Probaly would of worked more as one if he said 'especially' instead of even.

    • @ZeothTheHedgehog
      @ZeothTheHedgehog 4 роки тому

      @@kiiboi249 ooooh

  • @songoku9348
    @songoku9348 4 роки тому +47

    Well, dragon fist is more painful as he’s punching through you, genki Dama seems to disintegrate you.

    • @cash2346
      @cash2346 4 роки тому +6

      Dante A villains favorite question would I rather have a hole punched through me by a dragon be disintegrated

    • @z.incognito6259
      @z.incognito6259 4 роки тому +7

      @@cash2346 I'd take the hole cuz in dbz logic, theres a chance i'll survive it.

    • @Cephus1-n5w
      @Cephus1-n5w 4 роки тому +4

      Dante wouldn’t that be like saying a bullet is stronger then a supernova

    • @reidikulousgames1727
      @reidikulousgames1727 4 роки тому +3

      Although with the Spirit Bomb you'll likely be feeling pain throughout every cell in your body.

    • @Naruku2121
      @Naruku2121 4 роки тому

      I mean if Buu is any indication you wouldn't even be reduced to dust.

  • @hightidekraken
    @hightidekraken 4 роки тому +11

    Toei: So you got a new movie plot for us?
    Geekdom: Yeah so we’re gonna have Goku turn into a dragon and go up a big bug demons ass

  • @lorddharak596
    @lorddharak596 4 роки тому +24

    Ultra Instinct Dragon fist Would be 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Naxx03
    @Naxx03 4 роки тому +96

    If they make DF canon I want the dragon to has a color like the transformation that goku is in
    for example if he uses it in SSJG to be red, if he uses it in MUI to be white. What do you think geek?

    • @ZeothTheHedgehog
      @ZeothTheHedgehog 4 роки тому +11

      I think it's a cool idea

    • @Picmanreborn
      @Picmanreborn 4 роки тому +14

      Bruh that MUI dragon would be hype as fuck

    • @sambeezy007
      @sambeezy007 4 роки тому +7

      @@Picmanreborn the omen dragon would be better in my opinion. A black dragon with silver eyes maybe

    • @alexp6667
      @alexp6667 4 роки тому

      That would be cool.

    • @NuckChorris12345
      @NuckChorris12345 4 роки тому

      I'd love that.

  • @RyukoMato1
    @RyukoMato1 4 роки тому +38

    Isn’t the Spirit Bomb canonically only supposed to work against those with evil nature? I mean Jiren isn’t evil really.

    • @stephenurban1051
      @stephenurban1051 4 роки тому +2

      Ah yes i forgot about that

    • @Garfewloid
      @Garfewloid 4 роки тому

      True true

    • @Naruku2121
      @Naruku2121 4 роки тому +16

      By that logic Goku should of bounced the Spirit Bomb back unless...You could also argue that Super Saiyan Blue taints his heart like other Super Saiyan forms which is why he had to form it in base but transform to wield it. But then Super Saiyan God is formed by pure hearted or 'righteous' Saiyans and Blue is the Super Saiyan version of th-
      And this is a example of over thinking...

    • @OrosIII
      @OrosIII 4 роки тому +5

      @@Naruku2121 It could've been possible that Jiren used some of his strength to push it back so Goku really didn't have any hope of not getting hit by it.

    • @Gking0906
      @Gking0906 4 роки тому +8

      Ethan Dunn I think goku’s exact words to gohan is that he “could deflect the spirit bomb if his heart was pure and rid of evil” he NEVER said anything about it not being able to harm him, we even see the spirit bomb throw gohan back as he deflected it. So I’m pretty sure the spirit bomb can hurt you regardless if you’re good or not, it’s just that you can deflect it if you’re pure of heart

  • @ricksanchez2043
    @ricksanchez2043 4 роки тому +54

    The spirit bomb isn’t canon so it’s dragon fist lol

    • @Garfewloid
      @Garfewloid 4 роки тому +10

      You had me on the first half, not gonna lie.

  • @tophighlitez6176
    @tophighlitez6176 4 роки тому +35

    My dawg Geekdom triggered the fans by saying "there is no canon" LMAO, I love it!

  • @FleaGotti8
    @FleaGotti8 4 роки тому +38

    I’ve been saying SsJ3 Goku was strongest at the time. Movie 13 literally has been proof for years. I’m a big gohan fan but ultimate gohan not taking out a full power ssj3 goku

    • @maxichristl3187
      @maxichristl3187 4 роки тому +11

      Movies have different scaling than the anime, M12 and M13 Ss3 Goku>M 13 and Anime Mystic Gohan>Anime Ss3 Goku by feats

    • @samwert2316
      @samwert2316 4 роки тому +12

      Dude I hate to break it to u but if u go back and watch z carefully mystic gohan would wreck ssj3 goku

    • @thelastushiha3394
      @thelastushiha3394 4 роки тому +7

      Its not that ultimate gohan is weaker than ssj3 goku its that the dragon fist is too overpowered its just like how kamehameha stronger than any other ki wave (except for the final flash) believe or not techniques matters in DB

    • @damaged2810
      @damaged2810 4 роки тому +1

      @@thelastushiha3394 and special beam cannon and dodan ray

    • @oscaraguilar6980
      @oscaraguilar6980 4 роки тому +5

      The movies aren’t canon. Even if they were, the only reason ssj3 Goku was stronger was because of the dragon fist, which is a 10x multiplier. Also, goku cannot maintain that form. Ultimate Gohan would win in the long run, no matter how you put it. I love ssj3 goku waaaaayyyy more than ultimate gohan, but you can’t ignore the facts. It’s not like goku could just be constantly shitting out dragon fists to beat gohan.

  • @ATroknya
    @ATroknya 4 роки тому +6

    I've always been a fan of the Dragon Fist, I love that it's the move he actually creates. It's really the only one he doesn't learn from someone else.

  • @kieran9434
    @kieran9434 4 роки тому +45

    Imagine somebody's smashing n their energy gets drained from the spirit bomb.

    • @naraydaniels7832
      @naraydaniels7832 4 роки тому +6

      Kieran Requena *I S T H A T A L L Y O U ‘V E G O T*

    • @Picmanreborn
      @Picmanreborn 4 роки тому +6

      @@naraydaniels7832 Y O U ' R E W I D E O P E N

    • @docproof26
      @docproof26 4 роки тому +1

      Lol

  • @GardeniaCreations
    @GardeniaCreations 4 роки тому +6

    The comment about dragon fist up hirudegarn's you know what reminds me about the thanos ant-man memes before endgame

  • @n0tkings323
    @n0tkings323 4 роки тому +1

    7:56
    The way he explained and that “PAUSE” is how I’d probably explain how I love Dragon fist AS WELL LMAO

  • @bluefalcon6356
    @bluefalcon6356 4 роки тому +10

    Sometimes I wish GT was good, they had some good stuff but overall I did not like it, i do like the krillin vs goku ending scene

  • @superskullmaster
    @superskullmaster 4 роки тому +5

    Well the size of the Spirit Bomb is directly proportional to the power within it. Therefore technically since the Universal Spirit Bomb was the biggest, it was also the strongest.

  • @stevenjohnson6962
    @stevenjohnson6962 4 роки тому +8

    I really want to them canonize the dragonfist

  • @infamouskid6413
    @infamouskid6413 4 роки тому +5

    The Spirit Bomb is Iconic but Dragon Fist gets the job done

  • @ron4538
    @ron4538 4 роки тому +1

    i love that " there is no canon we are just having a good time". thanks i like dragonball media in general it makes me happy we can have civil conversations and not arguments its all in good fun.

  • @voni4170
    @voni4170 4 роки тому +5

    The crazy thing it could become a finishing move for UI goku

    • @ThatRedNumber
      @ThatRedNumber 4 роки тому

      Silver Dragon Fist would've been dope

  • @dagothurik1815
    @dagothurik1815 4 роки тому +2

    In terms of finishing fights/usage Goku’s trump card is the spirit bomb. In terms of Gokū as a character it’s the dragon fist since it’s easier to associate him with a technique that he seemingly created himself

  • @jirensentry7609
    @jirensentry7609 4 роки тому +2

    The Dragon Fist is a super transformed elevation of Goku's move against Daimon Piccolo. He originally used the Ozaru Fist as a kid, however, when he transformed into Super Saiyan, he acquired the move through that power now representative of Shenron instead of Saiyans. That's my take on it.
    In truth, Goku has 4 super finishing moves: Spirit Bomb, Dragon Fist, Kaioken and Kamehameha.

  • @SodaiGoku
    @SodaiGoku 4 роки тому +26

    It’s definitely the Spirit Bomb. The Dragon Fist is more of a novelty attack, where as the Spirit Bomb is his last resort.

  • @mistersir4180
    @mistersir4180 4 роки тому +10

    Isn’t the point of the spirit bomb is too defeat evil? Jiren wasn’t evil so the spirit bomb losses like half its affect.

    • @chrismcdowall05
      @chrismcdowall05 4 роки тому

      Well technacilly it won't work in the pure of heart, that's why Gohan could bounce it at Vegeta, and Jiren isn't technacilly evil, it just seems like he's apathetic to his comrades, so it probably wouldn't work.

    • @chrismcdowall05
      @chrismcdowall05 4 роки тому

      It's like the Nibus only allows the our of heart and that's why Krillin couldn't fly it, but Goku Gohan and Chi chi(at least as a child) could fly it. The spirit bomb is probably like the soul publisher, only works on the evil in you, that's why the kid survived it when it was used against Janemba, and why Broly was just damaged and not obliterated. Vegeta even smiles after seeing that, like he knows that Broly not pure evil, just gone berserk, and right before Broly got hit with the kamehameha, Brolys pupils came back, like he was finally shocked out of blind rage and could control his power.

  • @arabianchampion2829
    @arabianchampion2829 4 роки тому +11

    I never been this quick before. I see geekdom, I click :/

  • @ThePrinceGodofSaiyan
    @ThePrinceGodofSaiyan 4 роки тому +14

    NEXT: Kamehameha vs Final Flash

    • @damaged2810
      @damaged2810 4 роки тому +3

      Final flash is stronger

    • @jibrael5705
      @jibrael5705 4 роки тому +3

      @@damaged2810 Nah. It's equal. Galick Gun is weaker than Kamehameha.

    • @Garfewloid
      @Garfewloid 4 роки тому

      @@jibrael5705 really?

    • @damaged2810
      @damaged2810 4 роки тому +3

      @@jibrael5705 Wrong, FPSS Goku wrap Kamehameha blew Perfect Cell in half, point blank range. Super Vegeta final flash from a distance, blew Perfect Cells side off

    • @theaurorasystem9784
      @theaurorasystem9784 4 роки тому +1

      The Super Kamehameha is equal with final flash. The normal instant kamehameha is around the same level as galick gun

  • @SleepyChloeFist
    @SleepyChloeFist 4 роки тому +1

    The DragonFist can presumably be performed whilst at MAX power, where as the Spirit bomb is always done from Base form. I think the DFist is probably easier on Goku's body, as well as faster to execute. Let's not forget about SS4's point blank Dfist vs Ice Shenron

  • @Violent_Wolfen
    @Violent_Wolfen 4 роки тому +1

    I love the Dragon Fist, especially the GT version where he impaled Ice Shenron with the punch alone before the dragon part.

  • @devilfromhell8546
    @devilfromhell8546 4 роки тому +2

    the best thing about dragon fist is that it doesn't take a year to charge like genki dama(not the small one) but both are cool
    i like dragon fist more because it's goku's own move

  • @NidgeDFX
    @NidgeDFX 4 роки тому +7

    Just heard Daquains story of your bday (after) party at kamecon

  • @cash2346
    @cash2346 4 роки тому +3

    Best question ever can’t wait to see the day when Goku uses the dragon fist again

  • @thekingmikhail
    @thekingmikhail 4 роки тому +1

    I fell in love with the Dragon Fist when I first saw it. I wish they made it canon (even though that doesn't change my opinion that it's Goku's Trump Card)

  • @snin3202
    @snin3202 4 роки тому +36

    Maybe we as a whole fandom should make an agreement or rule about those canon users. Lets burn them if they mention about canon lol.

    • @dach829
      @dach829 4 роки тому +1

      For real some can consider super non cannon or gt non cannon.lets say screw the companies, similar to star wars. The fan are the only ones that matter

    • @lordzenkai2004
      @lordzenkai2004 4 роки тому +1

      Dragon Ball fan: Makes a valid or invalid argument
      Entitled Dragon Ball fan: *iT's NoT cAnOn*
      Me: *This must be the work of an enemy canon user*

    • @jibrael5705
      @jibrael5705 4 роки тому +1

      @@lordzenkai2004 Star Canon
      ZA WARUDOOOO!!

    • @TakeshiInazuma
      @TakeshiInazuma 4 роки тому +1

      Canon is a thing. It exists. Danny fix this.

    • @everytimeicommentagachatar413
      @everytimeicommentagachatar413 4 роки тому +4

      @@lordzenkai2004 Thats not entitlement, thats just them being boring as hell.

  • @SkytorRushTV
    @SkytorRushTV 4 роки тому +2

    0:56 and on word got me cracking 😂😂😂

  • @Jadoniah
    @Jadoniah 4 роки тому +1

    I think they were gonna make dragon fist canon in the buu arc because remember when he asked vegeta to buy him some time but I think toriyama bailed out and decided to end it with spirit bomb

  • @hectorrivera4625
    @hectorrivera4625 4 роки тому

    This is one of the best and funniest yet. Great video guest and topic!

  • @lilyeet3880
    @lilyeet3880 4 роки тому +2

    I just like how the dragon come out of his fist hence super dragon fist

  • @Dante...
    @Dante... 4 роки тому +1

    8:09 I wonder if Goku has ever given Chichi a dragon fist.

  • @cash2346
    @cash2346 4 роки тому +3

    Hopefully one day we can also get Goku absorbing the spirit bomb.

    • @pizzabob6880
      @pizzabob6880 4 роки тому

      Imagine if Goku absorbed the Genki Dama while in MUI before preforming the dragon fist.

    • @cash2346
      @cash2346 4 роки тому

      WhenLifeGetsDepressing and Goku says this to whoever he’s fighting, “And I am Goku.”

    • @cash2346
      @cash2346 4 роки тому

      Imagine if that’s how the Moro ark ends, freakin everyone’s hyping up that Vegeta will win but he fails then Moro just says, “ I am the eater of worlds Moro.”

  • @Gar5888
    @Gar5888 4 роки тому +5

    Although I want Goku to learn new moves I love the dragonfist!

  • @chilledandcool3918
    @chilledandcool3918 4 роки тому +3

    Does that guy continue saying "GEEKIE DAMA"??? I keep hearing him say that.

  • @Yklowz180
    @Yklowz180 4 роки тому +2

    I used to think the Dragon fist was the final, strongest version of when Goku penetrated (pause) DK Piccolo

  • @bloodyraptor6251
    @bloodyraptor6251 2 роки тому

    I always loved playing as Goku in the Budokai Tenkaichi games, and my friends would pick giant characters, and I would confidently rush them with Dragon Fist, with them thinking Giants are invulnerable to Rush attacks, then it would land, and loved the look on their faces! Good times

  • @andrewford7243
    @andrewford7243 4 роки тому +1

    Goku's real trump card: plot armour

  • @murx2530
    @murx2530 4 роки тому +1

    As a Budokai 3 fan, I'd say both, because Goku uses both for his ultimate, and it's amazing to look at

  • @PharaohZen420
    @PharaohZen420 4 роки тому +3

    We NEED dragon fist in Super
    that would be LEGENDARY

  • @BlueLighteningGojo
    @BlueLighteningGojo 4 роки тому +2

    I hope they never tell us how Goku learned the dragon fist, just leave it as a mystery that only he can go to.

  • @100weatherman
    @100weatherman 4 роки тому

    Excellent discussion geekdom, really enjoyed it keep it up my friend

  • @ianquadros6802
    @ianquadros6802 4 роки тому +2

    Make Video on Vegeta's New Technique,"Spirit Control"
    🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @musiknachtfrei
    @musiknachtfrei 4 роки тому +4

    I thought Demon King Piccillo was killed with the dragon fist.

    • @PatternLand
      @PatternLand 4 роки тому

      Ape fist

    • @erhiueQWEF
      @erhiueQWEF 4 роки тому

      He wasn't, it was simply a Kamehameha super-charged punch. Dragon Fist wasn't even an idea during those days.

  • @AmigoRigo
    @AmigoRigo 4 роки тому

    In dbs goku was acting out a fight he did with grandpa gohan... I didn’t know until someone showed me. Do you think you can do a video about things similar to this?

  • @shonenhiroxd
    @shonenhiroxd 4 роки тому +2

    One things for sure, there isn't any Dragonball character that survived after being hit by the Dragon Fist. I really wish that the move will be made canon in the future, maybe something that could counter, or at least rival destruction energy, who knows.

  • @TheMemesofDestruction
    @TheMemesofDestruction 4 роки тому +1

    Power up time, Spirit Bomb. Oh Sh!t! Dragon Fist. ^.^

  • @snakepliskin23
    @snakepliskin23 4 роки тому

    Movie 13 was the first dbz movie I owned. Bought it off eBay in 00’ from japan VHS with no subs but I didn’t care. It was my treasure

  • @TheClaytonWilson
    @TheClaytonWilson 4 роки тому

    Need the final flash technique guide! Love all da vids👍🏽

  • @RepTechEP
    @RepTechEP 4 роки тому +4

    The universal genkidama would be the size of a 🌞.

  • @BrisleyPLUS
    @BrisleyPLUS 4 роки тому +2

    I saw Luffy & I was like did geekdom101 finally watch one piece? no it was just a sponsor lol

  • @sderrick68
    @sderrick68 4 роки тому +1

    Dragon Fist, cause if Goku created it must have been because the Spirit Bomb is unreliable since you need others power to get sufficient results. The Dragon Fist exponentially increases the base level of Goku's strike, so if he is in his strongest forms (Z = SSJ3, SUPER = SSJB OR MUI, OR GT = SSJ4), his attack power generally wipes out his opponents.

  • @777Roxen
    @777Roxen 4 роки тому

    I'd say for the original run of the manga and anime, the Spirit Bomb is Goku's trump card.
    With all of the continuity that came after (movies, GT, video games, etc) it would be Dragon Fist.
    Even DBZ Kakarot which only covers the story from Raditz up to Kid Buu decided to include the Dragon Fist as one of Goku's strongest moves in the game, despite it never being used in Z. It's just become so iconic at this point.
    As you said, canon doesn't matter, so I believe that the move being as iconic as it is should be more than enough reason for it to be considered his trump card.

  • @hanke77
    @hanke77 4 роки тому

    Can relate with you Geekdom101. When playing the Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 story (as a kid). I kept thinking "Is the spirit bomb all Goku ever uses to beat the movie villains?"

  • @Power-9Hunnid
    @Power-9Hunnid 4 роки тому

    I always felt like that Beerus and Goku scene was like a chi type thing through their god power. I personally like the Dragon Fist and have always been curious on how he developed that move and SSJ 2, especially in that universe.

  • @ZeothTheHedgehog
    @ZeothTheHedgehog 4 роки тому +3

    Can you talk about how the dragon fist can be reinvented?

  • @chrisslothski
    @chrisslothski 4 роки тому

    i would like to see a spin-off of the series where all main villains are not in it and don't exist (except Vegeta & Frieza) and they use the movie villains but obviously tweak the story to make sense

  • @jeremyjean-pierre4977
    @jeremyjean-pierre4977 4 роки тому

    I like the dragon fist more because of its ressemblance to the move he used to defeat King Piccolo. That was one of my favourite moments in Dragon Ball. It feels right for Goku to have honed that technique so that it becomes the Dragon fist.
    It’s just like how the SSJ4 transformation feels so right.
    Nevertheless, I’ll put my hands up every time Goku will do the Genkidama.

  • @pavy415
    @pavy415 3 роки тому

    So that movie you mentioned where gohan got slapped easily was after the buu saga?

  • @Mjflight98
    @Mjflight98 4 роки тому

    This a good debate video the next one should the debate of Goku Kamehameha vs Vegetas final flash if that video has happened?

  • @DarkWolfPack012
    @DarkWolfPack012 4 роки тому +1

    I personally love the Dragon Fist way more than the Spirit Bomb. I was really hoping it'd make a sweet return in super

  • @Lilpinkboy
    @Lilpinkboy 4 роки тому

    Would it be possible to get a video on the dragon ball kai soundtrack music & which one was on the blu rays and what really happened with it, Im aware of your video “The Truth of Dragon Ball Kai” but specifically the music/soundtrack. I think a lot of people are confused on this topic, maybe it’s just me and I need to be inform.

  • @fredricorosenfield9976
    @fredricorosenfield9976 3 роки тому

    2:20. I call that one the Super Saiyan Disco Ball Of DOOM.

  • @DragonSkyNija
    @DragonSkyNija 4 роки тому

    7:36 Just got me reminded when Cell says (- Okay planet give me that stupid energy) in Budokai 3

  • @VoxelProductions
    @VoxelProductions 4 роки тому

    I got a question: How does the spirit bomb not absorb the energy from the person it's aimed at? I'm just saying, you mean to tell me that he can get energy from grass, which doesn't have any will of it's own, but he can't collect it from the person he's aiming it at?

  • @TheDarkFuryKnight
    @TheDarkFuryKnight 4 роки тому +3

    Dragon fist hope to see it in the manga who knows

  • @P5Joker
    @P5Joker 4 роки тому +3

    First!!!!
    Also great video and loving all the Dokkan art in your videos

  • @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
    @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 4 роки тому

    9:05 I am a big Gohan fan. He’s my second favorite dragon ball hero. However, what MJxTV said was so true and I completely agree.

  • @andresmarrero8666
    @andresmarrero8666 4 роки тому

    The thing about Omega Shenron is that due to the abilities of the shadow dragons and by virtue of what they are, he really only could be destroyed by the spirit bomb. The guy was already immune to physical attacks thanks to rage Shenron's power which also helps counter ki attacks. Not to mention that feat in destroying planets with shockwaves is highly inconsistent and contradicted later. Besides GT Goku in his base form shook heaven and hell just by powering up. I think that is a tad more impressive.

  • @manuel_s_4617
    @manuel_s_4617 4 роки тому

    @geekdom101 can you do a technique guide for Ginyu's change move? Thanks 👍🏼

  • @dragonslayer2107
    @dragonslayer2107 4 роки тому

    I have to go with the Dragon Fist because it does not require the large amount of time to gather the energy required to defeat later enemies. The Genki Dama leaves him far too open to attack as he cannot gather energy fast enough. If Goku could gather the energy without having to stand still and hold that pose then the Genki Dama would be much better.

  • @reagenlionel
    @reagenlionel 4 роки тому

    I'm surprised it wasn't discussed the conditions for both moves, especially the spirit bomb, needing to be base form, needing time, and viable donators for energy.

  • @owleighteen2944
    @owleighteen2944 4 роки тому

    People say that the Super Dragon fist is not canon, but those same fans never thought that Goku could have learned that move during the 7 year time skip ,after the battle with cell, when he was in the afterlife.

  • @CaptainQ2607
    @CaptainQ2607 4 роки тому

    It has to be spirt bomb as that is most commonly his last ditch technique when all else fails, whether dragon fist is 'cannon' now or in the future in dbs he chose to use genki dama v jiren after exhausting all his other moves.

  • @austingomez9630
    @austingomez9630 4 роки тому

    Geekdom did goku tap into oozaru power when fighting king piccolo in DB, like dbs broly oozaru power form.
    So what I'm talkin about was monkey fist that was typing into the ozara power like Broly tapping into ozaru power for base right?

  • @zacphoenix2404
    @zacphoenix2404 4 роки тому

    I think originally the (Dragon Fist only applied to Super Saiyan 3 Goku) at the time. It was like his (theme for Super Saiyan 3). (Didn't Super Saiyan 3 Goku used the Dragon Fist in the Boo Ark ?)

  • @pascal_case
    @pascal_case 4 роки тому

    This video was great to listen to. I can tell you guys vibe with each other

  • @hermz8616
    @hermz8616 4 роки тому

    Dragon fist is a movie move imo. Im not saying its not canon or whatever. Just that its so flashy and epic that its a perfect finale move. If he used it in the regular series than i would need an in depth explanation for once, preferably by piccolo

  • @JimsJamminn
    @JimsJamminn 4 роки тому

    I think of it this way. The dragon fist is gokus trump card, however the genki dama is a last ditch effort move. I think there is a difference since a last ditch move is a last hope and is more chance. A trump card is your most powerful move with the best chance to finish a fight. I think a good example of this is the friza fight where goku g did the spirit bomb a a last chance because the Kaioken (gokus old trump card) wasn’t working.

  • @cramcram5509
    @cramcram5509 4 роки тому

    The only cannon moves that goku has that wasn't taken or taught to him by anyone else was God Bind, and the land mine trick he used on jiren and when he used God bind on Broly.... instant transmission he got from aliens, kamehameha- Roshi, Solar flare-Tenshinhan, kioken/ Spirit bomb-King kai, Hexa blade-Krillin.

  • @DD-jl9xd
    @DD-jl9xd 4 роки тому

    I love you Geekdom been a fan for years

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 4 роки тому

    So far Dragon Fist Explosion has 'nearly' never failed vs Genki Demma took out folks from the movies, Omega Shenron, Majin Buu, Game Intros and Heroes. I'd go for DFI!

  • @the17thhokage2
    @the17thhokage2 4 роки тому +1

    1:12 *YALL KNOW RHYMESYLE G?!?!?!!*

  • @SCriseup
    @SCriseup 4 роки тому

    The Goku Gt Dragon fist when he punched the arugular on the ground is legendary I think I spelled it right