I didn't even realize it was possible to manipulate the 4th axis while it was in the loading bay. I saw another video where the pallet changes position, tool changes to a spindle gripper, picks up a part from the pallet, pallet changes position again, and the gripper places a part in the vise. I was completely blown away by that. I used to operate and program an R650 for a year and a half at my first job and I had never imagined that you could do stuff like that with the pallet.
You can rotate the 4th in the loading position with an optional switch, how much the 4th rotates with the button push is set in user data. You can call a pallet with a M code in the program, which is handy so you don't run the wrong program on the wrong pallet, which is very easy to do.
These are what I like the most and are what I am using in my videos www.aimco-global.com/subcat2?subcatky2=693553 but I get them used on Ebay. The only problems I have had are sometimes they don't have the standard springs in them. For this type of work go with 800-1100 rpm.
Yeah, no Haas for me, my other machine is a Kitamura. The Brother is nice but it is certainly optimized for production with zero compromises. That is great if it is what you want, but there are things about it that you won't like if you do more job shop type work. My phase converter says it is using around 4 amps during this video and very little air so they are certainly energy efficient.
It is basic but here it is cgsw.us/ I only have knife sharpening stuff on it right now but will be adding a page for the vises soon-ish. Anything I make for guided sharpening will be on Edge Pros web site. I have the bodies of the first run done, am working on the jaw carriers now, and then have to make the jaws. The problem is once I get the vises done I have a job I am behind on that I need the vises to do. The next video will probably be making the jaw carriers using the new 2" 8 station vises
This is years of experience, having my own shop so I can take the time to "do it right" even when is doesn't necessarily pencil out in an effort to learn, and many Kaizen events. Since this video was shot I learned how to speed this machine up even more by only using feed moves when in the cut, all others are rapid moves. The machines I have ran previously were faster using feeds for short moves but this one is a little different. Nothing like underbiding a job to drive you to go faster.
@@cgpmachining I may not know much about cnc work, at my age it would seem like a fun hobby more than a career But still would love to learn how to operate this kind of stuff, draw pictures and print
It really is something that takes a long time to get good at, and you never stop learning. I got into the trade because I wanted to make my own things for sailboarding. While doing production is what makes the money the fun is designing and making the tooling.@@toolwithintention
@@cgpmachining I do oil field corrosion work, much different than machining. However, making in house parts to play more with cars would be a dream. I couldn’t find much on schooling classes for cnc.
I learned on the job so never did any formal schooling on machining. I have met people who took clases at a trade school and based on that I would say the best way to learn is to get a machine and go at it. If you have a modern machine with a tool setter and especially a spindle probe it takes so much of the old school skills out of the equation it's silly. Now it is model it in CAD and post the toolpaths to the machine, probe the part, and go.@@toolwithintention
I didn't even realize it was possible to manipulate the 4th axis while it was in the loading bay. I saw another video where the pallet changes position, tool changes to a spindle gripper, picks up a part from the pallet, pallet changes position again, and the gripper places a part in the vise. I was completely blown away by that. I used to operate and program an R650 for a year and a half at my first job and I had never imagined that you could do stuff like that with the pallet.
You can rotate the 4th in the loading position with an optional switch, how much the 4th rotates with the button push is set in user data.
You can call a pallet with a M code in the program, which is handy so you don't run the wrong program on the wrong pallet, which is very easy to do.
Great production! I see that the utilization between the operator and machine is very good
What kind of torque wrench are you using? Great video!!
These are what I like the most and are what I am using in my videos www.aimco-global.com/subcat2?subcatky2=693553 but I get them used on Ebay. The only problems I have had are sometimes they don't have the standard springs in them. For this type of work go with 800-1100 rpm.
I often wish I had bought a Brother instead of a HAAS.
Yeah, no Haas for me, my other machine is a Kitamura. The Brother is nice but it is certainly optimized for production with zero compromises. That is great if it is what you want, but there are things about it that you won't like if you do more job shop type work. My phase converter says it is using around 4 amps during this video and very little air so they are certainly energy efficient.
do you have website already?
It is basic but here it is cgsw.us/ I only have knife sharpening stuff on it right now but will be adding a page for the vises soon-ish. Anything I make for guided sharpening will be on Edge Pros web site. I have the bodies of the first run done, am working on the jaw carriers now, and then have to make the jaws. The problem is once I get the vises done I have a job I am behind on that I need the vises to do. The next video will probably be making the jaw carriers using the new 2" 8 station vises
How can I get training to learn how to work a machine like this??
This is absolutely wild and I think I wanna give it a try
This is years of experience, having my own shop so I can take the time to "do it right" even when is doesn't necessarily pencil out in an effort to learn, and many Kaizen events. Since this video was shot I learned how to speed this machine up even more by only using feed moves when in the cut, all others are rapid moves. The machines I have ran previously were faster using feeds for short moves but this one is a little different. Nothing like underbiding a job to drive you to go faster.
@@cgpmachining
I may not know much about cnc work, at my age it would seem like a fun hobby more than a career
But still would love to learn how to operate this kind of stuff, draw pictures and print
It really is something that takes a long time to get good at, and you never stop learning. I got into the trade because I wanted to make my own things for sailboarding. While doing production is what makes the money the fun is designing and making the tooling.@@toolwithintention
@@cgpmachining
I do oil field corrosion work, much different than machining. However, making in house parts to play more with cars would be a dream.
I couldn’t find much on schooling classes for cnc.
I learned on the job so never did any formal schooling on machining. I have met people who took clases at a trade school and based on that I would say the best way to learn is to get a machine and go at it. If you have a modern machine with a tool setter and especially a spindle probe it takes so much of the old school skills out of the equation it's silly. Now it is model it in CAD and post the toolpaths to the machine, probe the part, and go.@@toolwithintention