I know this comment is 2 years olds but I gotta say this is my preferred way of watching DBZ. I love Dragon Ball dubbed and they kept the Japanese music intact so its good for DBZ dub to do the same for the Orange Bricks and Blue Rays
ch2010ize just buy the dragon box they have dub with jpn music and then done you get what you want and they even have previews from the original Japanese Broadcast!
It is a secret we have known since before Gohan could form words in his mouth, through fights with raditz, garlic jr, the ginyu force, and even frieza...we have caught glimpses of the child's explosive power...but like an explosion, it always vanished with the moment, it couldn't be controlled....until now.... At last the beastly power has been harnessed....Gohan..has awoken.. Now Cell will battle a warrior 11 years in the making.. ON THE NEXT DRAGON. BALL. Z.
Form words in his mouth......he was 4 when dbz started....and 11 years in the making...? He's 10 oh well close enuff dub age waa off by a year to begin with
Saizo I bet they muted it because they don't want any legal troubles with Hironobu Kageyama. They replaced the opening theme song's music as well. Regardless, I really don't think it's fair to call them "idiots." They released all 291 episodes with the original soundtrack intact minus a few songs. You can't blame them for being cautious. You should be grateful.. Just imagine if someone like 4Kids got the rights to dub DBZ instead of Funimation...
I think Gohan's inner monologue and the timing of the music was on point, and my opinion the narrator's delivery was amazing with the music played in the background made this scene one of the best if not the best scene in the English dub with the original Japanese music
A lot of people who's seen the japanese version of this clip hate the English Dub speech Gohan gives, personally I like it. Now with the music added, it sounds waaay more epic. Great job Xana. XD
Its cause they added unnecessary scenes to make it seem like he didnt turn SSJ2 until the cell jrs kept on beating the Z fighters after 16 was killed. He transformed immediately after his death. Plus the original with Gohan's silence followed by his one long scream just added to the emotion of it.
I know this is 4 years old but the team four star dub for Android 16 cut deeper. I feel like it fits more with this scene. The tfs dub is just better in my opinion
@@lavans5721 no he definitely was a coward at the moment. Refusing to fight cell and just watching as his friends we're getting beat up. 16 was a right he was coward to his last whimper
@@feristired8092 at that moment yes. But we know Gohan is not a coward at all from every fight he's been in before. He always steps in to help when his friends are in danger: example like against Frieza and Raditz. He knows he's not more powerful than his opponents and he fights anyways. At that moment, Gohan just doesn't want to break those morals. Gohan's freaked out and raged on his opponents before, so it's not like him to sit there and watch the cell jrs beat up his friends. Which makes me believe he had an ulterior reason for not being able to fight. That's his morals. He's never killed anyone before. He always wants to get the best outcome possible, but because of his ironclad morals, 16 is dead in front of him. 16 and Gohan didnt really know eachother, so he's not crying over the loss of a friend. He's crying over the loss of his morals and innocence. Because he knows he'll have to kill cell. He didnt expect to become sadistic and overconfident.
I will still always prefer the Funimation dub. But this one scene will always be better in Japanese. -Better scream -No inner monologue -This bone-chilling song I'll be honest, there are very few songs from the japanese score that I like.
@@khaleelmaestro I'm a year late, but it is called Unmei no Hi: Tamashi tai Tamashi. Team Four Star even did a rendition of their own that is actually fantastic, video is titled "Day of Fate ~Spirit VS Spirit~ Lyric Video (Unmei No Hi English Cover) | Team Four Star"
Gohan talking through the whole thing ruins the mood... Japanese just knew how to keep quiet and when to explode. Thats my gripe on the english, adding pointless shit and having to explain everything.
Thank you. Dear god, the dub is *so* awful in terms of knowing when the hell to keep quiet. It has to spell *everything* out like we're fucking children who won't understand unless they speak down to us. That, and Gohan going "eheheuheuheuahuhehuhhuh" and grunting to himself whenever there *is* silence makes me want to strangle him.
How it SHOULD'VE sounded on the "English version w/Japanese music" option on the DVDs and BDs, but I guess they couldn't license Unmei no Hi as an insert. Though, you would think if they could use the rest of the Japanese Mono, it''d have this... Copyright's a confusing, downward spiral.
Toei are pretty stingy with the licenses for their insert songs, it seems. This is a problem for a few other dubs of DBZ. In fact, some versions of the Latin American dub have it, and some don't.
Why this scene works so well with this song more than with faulconer’s (in my opinion) is because faulconer’s sounds are great for action scenes imo. But this scene is meant for gohan’s journey to this particular point. Since gohan was a child he obviously always saw his dad fighting evil. When he’s taken by raditz you can see he’s very scared and cries a lot. And then he gets that power boost when he gets very “angry” at raditz. Same with frieza. But ever since the raditz incident I think gohan had to man up (also because of his training with piccolo of course) and I think that’s the moment where he learned to hide his feelings. They come out in snippets but this is the moment where his emotions comes out (and also why him being a human led him to become this strong) when 16 says let go. 16 doesn’t just mean gohan’s power but I think he meant that gohan shouldn’t hide his emotion and let go. And then when 16 died. He got a fuck this shit moment where he just didn’t care about anything anymore including hiding his feelings and he just let it all go. And this song strengthens that feeling. And then when he transforms and after his scream the tears reflect him just letting go everything. That’s why he cries but his face isn’t sad. And I think that’s what makes this so powerful. Ps. Might be common knowledge this whole comment but idc I just had to share my thoughts lmao 😂 Pps. English is not my native language so if there are mistakes I’m sorry
Let'z-B -Gamerz Yeah, its the one time the Japanese music is actually better than the Funimation score. Because it was done by different people, btw the funimation score was also done by a group of people not just Bruce, he actually didn't even do half of it.
Stephanie nadolny roar + english narrator speech with original music = cherry on top complete win here I seriously don't mind monologue here with original music in back .
Man, DBZ fans really are the fucking worst. You just can't have an opinion without being called either a weeaboo or a nostalgia-blinded idiot, depending on which version you prefer to watch. No respect for others in this community at all. I'll say one thing though; the original Funimation dub is objectively bad by dubbing standards. That dub wouldn't fly nowadays. It's very much a product of its time, the late 90's, when there was no standard of quality for anime dubs. If you like it though, that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion.
+Derpilicous Fun Fact : Dragon Ball came to the US after DBZ, so many people like myself actually watched Dragon Ball Z before we even knew Dragon Ball existed.
+Tyrion Lannister That is why i watch dragonball super in japanese, even tough some characters sound very girlish, i dont mind, i do like dbz in dub, some of the screams are alot more emotional
Such a pivotal moment omg!! I agree way better with original Japanese music! it truly expresses so much emotion! Always sends ecstatic chills up and down my spine!! 🥰
Definitely makes it better. Still not as good as the original though. This is a perfect example of Funi doing too much. Gohan didn't need to say anything. We didn't need to hear his inner thoughts. All that needed to be said was already said. This moment was about the floodgates of rage being opened. Gohan losing himself to the rage he feared. And the English version took out the ozaru roar when Gohan screamed.
Look...I like TFS, I like Kai, I enjoy the original dub. But this is #1 in my opinion w/ Japanese music the screaming and 16 speech + bird and inner dialogue add so much more. Nearly brought me to tears.
After listening to both, I feel faulconer conveys a more hype and almost angry version of Gohan, while kikuchi conveys a more enlightened and awakened Gohan
Gohans original silence before he turns ssj 2 was needed, it shocked him that he was at a loss of words. Idk why in english dub he has a mini speech before transformation.
FUNimation had a bad habit of adding dialogue in originally silent moments due to the members thinking that kids wouldn't be entertained if there was silence. That's why the music rarely stopped playing as well.
@@casualvanilla No, that's not why at all. Funimation decided to add to the scene to increase build up and tension, which totally works for a majority of the western audience in the early 2000's. "And you were just an Android...I let you die...I can't do that...I feel it slipping" These words are key to informing us Gohan is snapping along with the red line, it hits FAR harder. Try looking at the scene from a different perspective and see why it sent goosebumps. The Japanese choice was great as well, but this was a good direction just as much.
@@atari_hmb The problem is that the dialogue is unnecessary. The audience can tell that Gohan has snapped hard based on his silence alone. And either of the music tracks played during the scene would've been suitable for a build-up. We don't need Gohan telling us how he feels when we can so clearly see it.
This is the best clip of this anywhere out there on the web. The original DUB with original Japanese music. Phenomenal. The Japanese music is so much better and the classic DBZ narrator at the end is one of a kind... "It's a secret we have known before Gohan could even form words in his mouth" ... "Now Cell will battle a warrior 11 years in the making!" goosebumps.
I love how even though DBZA is a comedy parody series, Team Four Star recreated this moment so beautifully epic! They even redid the same song with an English dub #TFS
@@Cellmate Trunks going SSJ for the first time (The music always gives me chills and the moment is one of my favs from DBZ), Vegeta's final flash (this is debatable), Goku going SSJ for the first time, Cell vs Gohan Kamehameha battle, Goku's speech against Freeza, Vegeta's sacrifice and there are plenty of others. I suggest watching the show with original soundtrack or even in original japanese, it really is amazing and underrated by American fans of Dbz.
You know, I like Faulconer's music and all, but this captures the emotion of this scene better. There's silence as 16 speaks and as he dies, the music picks up. And there shouldn't have been an internal monologue for Gohan, just pure shock and rage.
This is the best clip of this scene I have found anywhere. Japanese music with the english dub is phenomenal. Absolutely love it, thank you! Part of my get hyped for gaming line-up every time.
I'm certain most DVD releases have the Japanese score at least. Although this song won't be included if you use that option. There will be just voices and sounds, no music in this scene.
There are people who still do not understand what the bird means, for those: the bird symbolizes Gohan's innocence, and the red line symbolizes a shot, it is the murder of innocence and the end of Gohan's childhood
this is absolutely amazing. My favorite transformation in the DBZ series with Japanese music. I been wanting to see this for so long. Thank you so much for uploading. Much respect
Japanese audio better... English dumbs it down way too much. Plus I don't think the voice acting is as great as all that (Compare to Pixar dubbing for example).
Idk why but to me piccolo saying "gohan" brings it together for me. You can hear in his voice the concern for him. All jokes aside with Goku being a bad father we know he loves his son but we all know piccolo cares more for gohan. That's a fact. But that 1 word from piccolo contrast so well with the scene.
Fun fact: in the Mexican dub, there was no music or the inner monologue. Just dead silence, only with Gohan screaming and the sound effects. Dare I say it’s on par with the original Japanese dub.
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Say what you will, but I think that the scene is better with the Japanese music. I think it adds more emotion to the scene.
To me it's epic either way :D
your right the Japanese music sounds much better than the other one
Luis Yado i agree. it made the moment much stronger.
The original music knows where to play and where not to unlike the English music where it almost doesn't stop playing.
Luis Yado haha yeah. The "bee bee boo bee boo - dun dun dum dun" just doesn't cut it for me
Gohan's old voice actor is legitimately the greatest of all time.
She also played kid goku
The new one is just annoying and doesn’t even fit gohan
A Quantum Omnibucket Stephanie Nadolny
One reason why kai was ruined
Ah, I remember why now.
It's because she didn't want to be on the casting couch
*This version of the Dub+Japanese Soundtrack = Win
hell yea
I know this comment is 2 years olds but I gotta say this is my preferred way of watching DBZ. I love Dragon Ball dubbed and they kept the Japanese music intact so its good for DBZ dub to do the same for the Orange Bricks and Blue Rays
Latin= Win
GOBEMA QLO lose
ch2010ize just buy the dragon box they have dub with jpn music and then done you get what you want and they even have previews from the original Japanese Broadcast!
It is a secret we have known since before Gohan could form words in his mouth, through fights with raditz, garlic jr, the ginyu force, and even frieza...we have caught glimpses of the child's explosive power...but like an explosion, it always vanished with the moment, it couldn't be controlled....until now....
At last the beastly power has been harnessed....Gohan..has awoken..
Now Cell will battle a warrior 11 years in the making.. ON THE NEXT DRAGON. BALL. Z.
The moment I saw this comment the Narrator starts talking
*Gohan's anger frown intensifies*
Form words in his mouth......he was 4 when dbz started....and 11 years in the making...? He's 10 oh well close enuff dub age waa off by a year to begin with
DB超サイヤ人 did you include the year in the time chamber
Fuck ye
“Now Cell has to fight a Warrior 11 years in the making”
Damn that line was delivered perfectly
"It is a secret we have known before Gohan could even form words in his mouth"
That line gives me mad chills.
Really bro? The less the narrator speaks the better, just like the original Japanese, just like the Latin American dub
Love this it’s so hype , to each their own that’s the beauty of DBZ so many ways to enjoy the same story
@@X100PreLeonaLiterally one of the worst dragon ball takes I’ve seen in a long time 😂
Wow why didn't the dub just leave the music!
Because they are idiots
Saizo I bet they muted it because they don't want any legal troubles with Hironobu Kageyama. They replaced the opening theme song's music as well. Regardless, I really don't think it's fair to call them "idiots." They released all 291 episodes with the original soundtrack intact minus a few songs. You can't blame them for being cautious. You should be grateful.. Just imagine if someone like 4Kids got the rights to dub DBZ instead of Funimation...
When an anime is licensed, you have to license the soundtrack as well. TOEI did not allow Funimation to license the soundtrack.
It's always a sad thing to watch when money ruins something that couldve been amazing.
Money* This is why we can't have nice things.
NinjaGirlSakura1 all they're missing is the oozaru scream
I think Gohan's inner monologue and the timing of the music was on point, and my opinion the narrator's delivery was amazing with the music played in the background made this scene one of the best if not the best scene in the English dub with the original Japanese music
Chris Van Halen I feel like the dialogue ruined some of it imo. Mainly th because in the Japanese version it showed and didn't tell.
Yeah, i didn't like the narrator stating the obvious. its much cooler just to be in awe of gohan, instead of someone telling you how awesome it is
Um...
The narrator was in the original Japanese too. Less pronounced, but there.
Chris Van Halen This will be a shocker for those who don't know but the narrator is ironically the voice of Gohan....
@@bennyp915 Japanese did it too just not as long winded
This is the perfect combination for this scene
No
A lot of people who's seen the japanese version of this clip hate the English Dub speech Gohan gives, personally I like it. Now with the music added, it sounds waaay more epic. Great job Xana. XD
I hate the eng version cuz they dragged it to much
I don't understand Japanese :I only know some Japanese language 😅
Its cause they added unnecessary scenes to make it seem like he didnt turn SSJ2 until the cell jrs kept on beating the Z fighters after 16 was killed. He transformed immediately after his death. Plus the original with Gohan's silence followed by his one long scream just added to the emotion of it.
The way he is talking is shit that speach kilked the hype...
I prefer the quiet rage of gohan ngl that part where he just stares at nothing after cell makes 16 eat the curb is immaculate
Anyone else here after DBZA Episode 60?
Yep me
hell yeah man
I 100% agree. Android 16's speech to gohan in DBZA was so much more deep
Definitely
Chaos Blast997 nah bro their cover wasn’t as good as the original
I like Android 16's lines better. telling Gohan to let it go ( not a frozen reference) seems better then the kai dub. IMO
I know this is 4 years old but the team four star dub for Android 16 cut deeper. I feel like it fits more with this scene. The tfs dub is just better in my opinion
@@feristired8092 yup. Calls Gohan a coward, it's not true, but its what he needed to hear at that moment.
@@lavans5721 no he definitely was a coward at the moment. Refusing to fight cell and just watching as his friends we're getting beat up. 16 was a right he was coward to his last whimper
@@feristired8092 at that moment yes. But we know Gohan is not a coward at all from every fight he's been in before. He always steps in to help when his friends are in danger: example like against Frieza and Raditz. He knows he's not more powerful than his opponents and he fights anyways. At that moment, Gohan just doesn't want to break those morals. Gohan's freaked out and raged on his opponents before, so it's not like him to sit there and watch the cell jrs beat up his friends. Which makes me believe he had an ulterior reason for not being able to fight. That's his morals. He's never killed anyone before. He always wants to get the best outcome possible, but because of his ironclad morals, 16 is dead in front of him. 16 and Gohan didnt really know eachother, so he's not crying over the loss of a friend. He's crying over the loss of his morals and innocence. Because he knows he'll have to kill cell. He didnt expect to become sadistic and overconfident.
@@lavans5721 yeah I known thats why I said at that moment
I will still always prefer the Funimation dub. But this one scene will always be better in Japanese.
-Better scream
-No inner monologue
-This bone-chilling song
I'll be honest, there are very few songs from the japanese score that I like.
your not wrong but nothing beats that english announcer
@@cielo987 he talks too much.
@@cielo987 I mean he is the voice of Adult Gohan
I can't take anyone who says the Japanese voices sound better in any scene seriously
@@kulpykulptington2715 damn...i mean aight
I'm not going to lie. This original piece was perfection.. in my cell voice
What??
Ffteeoye😂 😂😂dkyelyyredugdktgd
Ddjdydkdudtttrdidyyeoeetrrlurdyriyfdidue
When he screamed the nostalgia hit me like a truck
This gives me literal chills. The best song for this scene, with English dub I grew up on.
What is the name of the song sir
@@khaleelmaestro I'm a year late, but it is called Unmei no Hi: Tamashi tai Tamashi. Team Four Star even did a rendition of their own that is actually fantastic, video is titled "Day of Fate ~Spirit VS Spirit~ Lyric Video (Unmei No Hi English Cover) | Team Four Star"
gohan’s tears + music + narrator in the background = emotional
Gohan talking through the whole thing ruins the mood... Japanese just knew how to keep quiet and when to explode. Thats my gripe on the english, adding pointless shit and having to explain everything.
Thank you. Dear god, the dub is *so* awful in terms of knowing when the hell to keep quiet. It has to spell *everything* out like we're fucking children who won't understand unless they speak down to us. That, and Gohan going "eheheuheuheuahuhehuhhuh" and grunting to himself whenever there *is* silence makes me want to strangle him.
Shut the fuck up! Everyone it is awesome!
Edges true,as much as I like the English
dub it sometimes didn't know when to keep quiet in serious and emotional scenes like this one.
onewithmyself nigga you are speaking English
exactly, silence is golden
How it SHOULD'VE sounded on the "English version w/Japanese music" option on the DVDs and BDs, but I guess they couldn't license Unmei no Hi as an insert. Though, you would think if they could use the rest of the Japanese Mono, it''d have this... Copyright's a confusing, downward spiral.
i know this is how it should have been!
They decided to cut it out because it was the English dub.
Toei are pretty stingy with the licenses for their insert songs, it seems. This is a problem for a few other dubs of DBZ. In fact, some versions of the Latin American dub have it, and some don't.
Why this scene works so well with this song more than with faulconer’s (in my opinion) is because faulconer’s sounds are great for action scenes imo. But this scene is meant for gohan’s journey to this particular point. Since gohan was a child he obviously always saw his dad fighting evil. When he’s taken by raditz you can see he’s very scared and cries a lot. And then he gets that power boost when he gets very “angry” at raditz. Same with frieza. But ever since the raditz incident I think gohan had to man up (also because of his training with piccolo of course) and I think that’s the moment where he learned to hide his feelings. They come out in snippets but this is the moment where his emotions comes out (and also why him being a human led him to become this strong) when 16 says let go. 16 doesn’t just mean gohan’s power but I think he meant that gohan shouldn’t hide his emotion and let go. And then when 16 died. He got a fuck this shit moment where he just didn’t care about anything anymore including hiding his feelings and he just let it all go. And this song strengthens that feeling. And then when he transforms and after his scream the tears reflect him just letting go everything. That’s why he cries but his face isn’t sad. And I think that’s what makes this so powerful.
Ps. Might be common knowledge this whole comment but idc I just had to share my thoughts lmao 😂
Pps. English is not my native language so if there are mistakes I’m sorry
Really like how you interpretate the situation.
I love DBZ with Faulconer music. But i'm with you on this one. The Japanese music was executed waaaay better in this particular scene.
@@ummiehummie in all the scenes not only this...
Bro your English is impressive, you nailed it.
Probably one of the best descriptions I’ve ever read.
Pretty much the only moment in the Japanese where the music truly made the scene. That was epic.
What about Mind Power Ki
Battle Point Unlimited.
Completely agree.
Mezase Tenkaichi in the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai
Moeru heart de red ribbon gun wo tsukero
I Prefer Falconer All the Way But This Song Should Have Been Kept in the Dub!
Yea same here
Let'z-B -Gamerz Yeah, its the one time the Japanese music is actually better than the Funimation score. Because it was done by different people, btw the funimation score was also done by a group of people not just Bruce, he actually didn't even do half of it.
@Juljan Peshtani If you like 1950s godzilla movie music then I guess it is.
@Juljan Peshtani Well its just difference of opinion, but the japanese music to me sounds really dated.
Stephanie nadolny roar + english narrator speech with original music = cherry on top complete win here
I seriously don't mind monologue here with original music in back .
FINALLY someone who appreciates it
This is gonna hit me harder now. Rest in peace Toriyama San
RIP to the GOAT. I'm so happy that Gohan is as strong as Goku and Vegeta rn
@@stevenjoseph6048 Rip the goat
Normally I prefer the dub but the inner monologuing and narrator ruins the impact in this scene
Goldman wily the inner monologue does kinda ruin. But not the narrator since he hypes it up even more
The inner monologue greatly enhances the scene. We get what's going through Gohan's head and we hear him finally let his emotions run wild.
Storm Bringer777 If you saw someone get killed would you be talking in your head about how you failed or be ready to snap?
Super Saiyan 4 Son Goku I'd talking in my head too knowing I failed to protect someone I loved. Then I'd snap.
Storm Bringer777 I wouldn't. There'd be nothing but instinct just like how Gohan was in the Japanese and English Kai.
Man, DBZ fans really are the fucking worst. You just can't have an opinion without being called either a weeaboo or a nostalgia-blinded idiot, depending on which version you prefer to watch. No respect for others in this community at all. I'll say one thing though; the original Funimation dub is objectively bad by dubbing standards. That dub wouldn't fly nowadays. It's very much a product of its time, the late 90's, when there was no standard of quality for anime dubs. If you like it though, that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion.
Lets get things started!! Gundam fight all set? READYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
More than 60% of DBZ fans like Bruce better. Thats because most of them were old enough to see Dragon Ball
I only have an issue with the original because of gohan's voice, I like kai's gohan better.
+Derpilicous Fun Fact : Dragon Ball came to the US after DBZ, so many people like myself actually watched Dragon Ball Z before we even knew Dragon Ball existed.
+Tyrion Lannister That is why i watch dragonball super in japanese, even tough some characters sound very girlish, i dont mind, i do like dbz in dub, some of the screams are alot more emotional
GOHAN HAS AWOKEN...always gives me chills.
This music for that moment is so much better in my opinion.
Toonami. I remember the announcer. I always looked forward to how he was gonna prep us for the next episode. This was so memorable.
Man... what a speech... just the whole thing.... simply... beautiful 😢
The announcer should shut his mouth tho
Wth are you talking about? The announcer was great. He's definitely better than the Japanese narrator for sure.
@@redrum6316 It ruins the moment, all the atmosphere of thoughtless, pure rage just goes poof
"but I plan on doing this MY WAY"
"at last the BEASTly power has been harnessed"
Fuck, really, the seeds for abridged AND super hero are that deep.
This will always be my favorite moment in all of Dragon Ball Z history!!
Such a pivotal moment omg!! I agree way better with original Japanese music! it truly expresses so much emotion! Always sends ecstatic chills up and down my spine!! 🥰
I never understood why the music is absent even when you put the dub with the Japanese music on the DVD.
@Truly_high_420 it’s on the Japanese track though so if that were true they wouldn’t be able to play it period.
Definitely makes it better. Still not as good as the original though. This is a perfect example of Funi doing too much. Gohan didn't need to say anything. We didn't need to hear his inner thoughts. All that needed to be said was already said. This moment was about the floodgates of rage being opened. Gohan losing himself to the rage he feared.
And the English version took out the ozaru roar when Gohan screamed.
Look...I like TFS, I like Kai, I enjoy the original dub.
But this is #1 in my opinion w/ Japanese music the screaming and 16 speech + bird and inner dialogue add so much more. Nearly brought me to tears.
I've been trying to find an scene where the dub and the original japanese song combined. Finally!
the original dub voice actors are amazing but the japanese music brings so much emotion
100 times better than the Kai
After listening to both, I feel faulconer conveys a more hype and almost angry version of Gohan, while kikuchi conveys a more enlightened and awakened Gohan
I took out my ipod and pulled this once against a mugger,
haven't been mugged since.
Snicker*
In general I prefer the Faulconer score for DBZ, but for this scene, gotta go with the original
the english music of all the animes in usa is horrible compareted to the original one
Crossmanx23 Not everyone likes to listen to drums and trumpets all the time and actually like diverse instruments and music.
sorry but... the faulconer soundtrack is better in most cases this is the rare case of a well placed soundtrack that fits the scene
Faulconer ost sucks.
YanerShock ur dumb
Gohans original silence before he turns ssj 2 was needed, it shocked him that he was at a loss of words. Idk why in english dub he has a mini speech before transformation.
FUNimation had a bad habit of adding dialogue in originally silent moments due to the members thinking that kids wouldn't be entertained if there was silence. That's why the music rarely stopped playing as well.
Aleisis early funimation always tried to change things that didnt need to be changed
@@casualvanilla No, that's not why at all. Funimation decided to add to the scene to increase build up and tension, which totally works for a majority of the western audience in the early 2000's.
"And you were just an Android...I let you die...I can't do that...I feel it slipping"
These words are key to informing us Gohan is snapping along with the red line, it hits FAR harder. Try looking at the scene from a different perspective and see why it sent goosebumps. The Japanese choice was great as well, but this was a good direction just as much.
@@atari_hmb The problem is that the dialogue is unnecessary. The audience can tell that Gohan has snapped hard based on his silence alone. And either of the music tracks played during the scene would've been suitable for a build-up.
We don't need Gohan telling us how he feels when we can so clearly see it.
This is the best clip of this anywhere out there on the web. The original DUB with original Japanese music. Phenomenal. The Japanese music is so much better and the classic DBZ narrator at the end is one of a kind... "It's a secret we have known before Gohan could even form words in his mouth" ... "Now Cell will battle a warrior 11 years in the making!" goosebumps.
I love how even though DBZA is a comedy parody series, Team Four Star recreated this moment so beautifully epic! They even redid the same song with an English dub #TFS
... Now somebody edit the scene with tfs's cover...
lul
ua-cam.com/video/DCSwCevwZN4/v-deo.html
Here ya go
@@joshualara8204 thanks, homie
This song changed my life growing up. 33 still listen to it.... dont know a damn word its saying lol but I sing with it
So that's the original Japanese music, that sounds pretty cool!
Is this the only DBZ moment where the original Japanese music works better than the Faulconer music?
No there are plenty of others.
@@thiccjerry5232 Sorry for only just now replying, but what other scenes work better with the original score? I'd like to see them.
@@Cellmate Trunks going SSJ for the first time (The music always gives me chills and the moment is one of my favs from DBZ), Vegeta's final flash (this is debatable), Goku going SSJ for the first time, Cell vs Gohan Kamehameha battle, Goku's speech against Freeza, Vegeta's sacrifice and there are plenty of others. I suggest watching the show with original soundtrack or even in original japanese, it really is amazing and underrated by American fans of Dbz.
Should have kept the Japanese roar though.
Lol who else is here after watching Gohan Beast transform?
2:03 the most epic scream "I won't watch this anymore"
This is the best version of this. Nothing will beat this
You know, I like Faulconer's music and all, but this captures the emotion of this scene better. There's silence as 16 speaks and as he dies, the music picks up. And there shouldn't have been an internal monologue for Gohan, just pure shock and rage.
I feel the monologue fits well. We get to hear Gohan's thoughts before he finally explodes. I feel it was well done.
"It is a secret we have known before gohan could even form words in his mouth.."
Make a man choke right up
I love how Stephanie Nadolny voiced kid Goku, Gohan and Goku Jr.
and goten too
In my opinion, Dragon Ball Z is the most masculine anime I have seen!
This scene gotta be the greatest of all Dragon Ball sagas ! Just pure perfection
Omg the music.
This is the best clip of this scene I have found anywhere. Japanese music with the english dub is phenomenal. Absolutely love it, thank you! Part of my get hyped for gaming line-up every time.
Al the episodes are better without the Bruce falconer shit!
I like how the narrator mentioned the villains out of order lol
The Funimation dub being completely silent besides the monologue was an utterly insane decision.
I Like The Dub and the japenese version but the music they should of left it but i still like the both of them
Let it go, Let it go....! As Elsa already said.
Just got the season 1 & 2 dvd releases and realized theres an option for "English dialogue with Japanese music" that's awesome!
I'm certain most DVD releases have the Japanese score at least. Although this song won't be included if you use that option. There will be just voices and sounds, no music in this scene.
1:36
🎗️💯
Gohan's greatest moment...just think how things would have turned out if it became HiS show afterwards like it was supposed to😭
There are people who still do not understand what the bird means, for those: the bird symbolizes Gohan's innocence, and the red line symbolizes a shot, it is the murder of innocence and the end of Gohan's childhood
Why couldn't it be more famous!?
This is epic!
2:04 when you finally beat that boss
this is absolutely amazing. My favorite transformation in the DBZ series with Japanese music. I been wanting to see this for so long. Thank you so much for uploading. Much respect
Japanese audio better... English dumbs it down way too much. Plus I don't think the voice acting is as great as all that (Compare to Pixar dubbing for example).
Really l, I mean, I can’t even tell their emotion when Japanese people talk. Plus they kinda sound repetitive.
Chills everytime 🥰
Fuckkkkk....I LOVE THIS VID😎🙏
Yeah that music is awful. I'm sorry. I get why people like it but I prefer the original.
Luckily for you nobody asked
That song goes hard
“Yet another fighter you could’ve saved” a line by Cell I think is overlooked & what really set Gohan off
NO TENÍAS XQ METERTE EN ESTO, SIEMPRE FUISTE UN INÚTIL
This is the best version of this scene around
RIP Toriyama
This vid...a conecction....this is how we learn to live above our..demons....we can't defeat them....this.is why.we.rise..😎😎
One of the few scenes that I prefer the Japanese OST over the Bruce Faulconer's soundtrack. This is a masterpiece! 👌🏼
Idk why but to me piccolo saying "gohan" brings it together for me.
You can hear in his voice the concern for him. All jokes aside with Goku being a bad father we know he loves his son but we all know piccolo cares more for gohan. That's a fact.
But that 1 word from piccolo contrast so well with the scene.
Gohan: * Starts to go Super Saiyan 2 *
Cell: Why do I hear boss music that isn't mine?
Ta weno el grito uwu
Fun fact: in the Mexican dub, there was no music or the inner monologue. Just dead silence, only with Gohan screaming and the sound effects. Dare I say it’s on par with the original Japanese dub.
At the beginning I honestly couldn’t tell if this was the abridged version.
Who's here after DBZ Abridged Episode 60?
english dub is horrible, it makes the scene bad
SaMuRai WR Sorry not everyone likes HATATATATA!!!!, KkKKKkkK!!!, and San after every time they say a name.
Tony
Sounds way worse. Use Gohans anger
That shits overrated garbage.
Gohan: ....and you were just an Android.
Haha what's that suppose to mean
Basically, although he had no soul, Android 16 very soul consumed with love for life and nature; he was a gentle giant.
Nobody's heard of an opinion from what I always see in videos concerning DB's various soundtracks.
God i get chills from watching this
This is fucking lit 🔥
I felt like I was a lot like Gohan growing up and this bit always gives me the chills.
Your spirit feels that, awaken your true power brother!!