Cupra Born 58 kWh - 130 km/h full range test
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Yupp,, a beautiful car 🤩!
As always Chris. Cheers and thank you soo much for your time and work 🍻😎👍
Thanks for your great videos. Just ordered my Cupra Born. It's a long wait, but worth it.
Thanks for posting this. Pre-orders are just about to open in the UK. No spec' No prices and no car to even go and look at!! At least I go to see something of it ;-)
Excited for Born content! 🥰 Like all the exterior details you mentioned +hatch door in body color! That is what the future Teschla Model H (hatch😁) could look like
It’s a id3 with a little playful or sporty sauce on it but without the trusting German logo and the serious karakter. . This was also with the Golf and the Polo. The Leon was the playful less serious Golf and the ibiza was the same for the Polo. That’s why i bought a brand new ibiza instead of a polo before. 1 it was cheaper. 2. It looked more fun but nowadays on were i stand now in life. I think i would go for the id3. I really like the id3
Der Verbrauch ist wahrlich sehr hoch. Danke für den Test!
Under these circumstances totally normal. Cold, heat, wet, fast
@@BatteryLife yes totally normal :)))
@@BatteryLife Normal for this car maybe, not normal for a good EV.
@@BatteryLife "fast" good joke :)
I think this is going to sale like hotcakes in the uk if they get the pricing right :)
I want to get my hands on one. I have the skoda iv 80, we need to replace our second car (ICE).
You should not do that. Use the ev the most you can but leave an ice car just in case. Weekend fun drives, hurry at the highway when neccessary, go on a vacation that is 1000-1500kms away etc. Inthose cases ice is still superior keeping in mind cost of car, quick refuel huge range even at highway speed
It definitely looks more attractive inside and outside. That is a sexier ID3.
Nice color.❄️look , better than ID3 I agree.
So how exactly you can increase / decrease cruise control by 1kmh?
Cupra gave it the looks of a hot hatch now they need to give it the performance of one so it is.
Nice video. But I wonder if an 80% to 20% range test is also useful as that's the recommended daily charge range
You can calculate that from this result.
I hope the VW group uses the id.3 or id.4 to make a convertible car. There are very few soft top EV's.
Definitely more striking in it's style. A question about the Enyaq in that I can't find if you have tested both with and without the heat pump as I'm considering ordering late next year for 2023. Wanted to know whether it's worth investing in the heat pump as it's roughly €1200 option here in Ireland. Anyway hope to see you night testing the Cupra to see what the lights are like.
At the moment there is no difference. Maybe later on there will be a difference with software.
@@scottwills4698 thanks Scott, we don't get really cold weather here but it definitely is damp 😂. Heated seats and windscreen are all great but you got to keep the flooring dry or it'll smell desperate. Guest I'll be keeping that extra money instead.
@@scottwills4698 thanks Scott, we don't get really cold weather here but it definitely is damp 😂. Heated seats and windscreen are all great but you got to keep the flooring dry or it'll smell desperate. Guest I'll be keeping that extra money instead.
I had similar results with Cupra Born. The main problem was charging on Ionity. Peak 75 kW all the time around 50 kW only.
I had more! Video coming soon.
The interior is nice, but would still buy an ID3
The ID3 has an ultra-cheap interior with lots of black shiny plastic - it scratches easily, is fingerprinted and is in completely inappropriate places. It's an embarrassment for VW.
Great, now Seat/Cupra has an ID.3, too.
But aside from that... 🕵️
Did your start the range test with cold battery? I see higher power consumption in my ID4 with cold battery
Battery was not hot, but warm enough.
Meb cars preheat their battery to 13 degrees if the pack is under 7 degrees C.
I bought one. Is it an awesome car? Nope. Is it a good EV? Yeah. Doesn't make it awesome though. Anyway, love your stuff
Hi have they sorted all the software bugs yet ?
Yes. Ok not scheduled charging but that should be fixed in V3.0 (early 2022)
„Same software as the ID3……..byyyyyeee 🤣
Chris, does your ID3 already have 8% loss on the batteries? thanks
Yes, made a video. Very normal.
@@BatteryLife am i right in saying the batteries are guaranteed to lose no more than 20% in the first 8 years? that's what it is with my e-golf
And how much does it cost do fully charge the car at every stop?
So 80% to 10% range is just 150km. So that's pretty much means that on long trips you would have to stop to a charger every 150km. That's looks like a pain the ass if your trip is somewhat long. For a 1000km trip you would have to stop 7 items, or am I missing something?
In the winter with 130 km/h yes
In Austria more than 40.000 euro, ok not for that price, dreams gone
5:20 according to german law, what your doing with the screen is the same as using a smartphone while driving. the autobahn range is a thing tho and thats whats keeping me from going electric, especially, when youre looking for a compact electric car and not something the size of an audi a6. i would something, that can reach almost 400km, during any weather, while driving 130kmh, but thats where you reduce the possible cars down to a handfull. when i take a 3 hour trip on the weekend, iam not willing to increase that to 4 hours, just to reload and go on, thats less time i can spend on arrival and times, that i will never get back.
Tesla Model 3 LR almost gives you the range you want and you'd have access to the superchargers.
This looks like an nicer car than the id3. Showing up as 7000€ more expensive than iD3 in Belgium.
I think it is only right that you buy the cheaper ID3 in Belgium. more cupras for the rest of us outside Belgium
Are you sure? the difference in the Netherlands is only €250.
I think you must look at the specs.
Those Born are just as first ID in higher spec now.
@@RedBatteryHead looking at this product and market placement, VW need to clear out a lot of their board of directors. Deliberately snubbing their noses to the future by making sure the EV's they produce were of worse quality than their ICE cars. Then stymieing their own new Cupra brand to be always behind their beloved VW brand. These people will be the death of VW as a car maker
@@tomquimby8669 the Born is pure marketing. Albeit better in design and material.
I'm hoping the Skoda version will be the best combination.
hello, I would like to know how many km the Born is able to travel mainly in the city and suburbs since being a taxi driver (I work in Milan) I would need to understand how much autonomy I could have at my disposal.
80% of my working day takes place in the city, the remaining 20% a mixture between suburbs and motorway, in your opinion how many km I could do with a full charge starting every day from 100% (will I top up in the box at home)?
Thanks for a possible reply.
Luciano
(translation by google)
ciao, mi piacerebbe sapere quanti km è in grado di fare la Born girando prevalentemente in città e periferia poiché essendo io un taxista (lavoro a Milano) avrei bisogno di capire quanta autonomia potrei avere a mia disposizione.
La mia giornata lavorativa si svolge per l'80% in città, il restante 20% un misto tra periferia e autostrada, secondo te quanti km potrei fare con un pieno di ricarica partendo ogni giorno dal 100% (ricaricherò nel box di casa)?
Grazie per una eventuale risposta.
Luciano
I will do a 90 km/h range test. That is a simulation of country and city driving. But it is winter here. Milan should be warmer ;)
@@BatteryLife ... In the meantime, thanks for your kind reply, even here in Milan we are around 2/3 degrees at the moment and in any case I look forward to your road test.
In January 2022 I would like to purchase the Born, I like it too much.
Hello and thanks again.
@@luciano_doati So did you buy it? I'm curious af about this car but scared about the range...
@@DylalyD … no Dylan, in the end I got the Marvel r MG that costs less and has a lot of space to no end, the heat pump and the panoramic roof, all standard, final price 40000 €
@@luciano_doati that's such a cool car! How are you feeling with going electric? Is the declared range actually there, or just a number thrown around? Have you had any problems with the range in general?
I'm looking around for a new car, electric seems so freaking cool, but at the same time scarier than a normal thermal engine
Is your id3 a business lease company car?or bought on the company? To go to clients or locations for work but also for private use? Or did you just bought it with your own hard earned cash? If i may ask of course.
Private lease
@@BatteryLife ah ok! Do you guys also have a kilometer limit per year? Like we have with max 10.000 km and a 5 year contract. ? In Holland that’s doable but in Deutschland….?
No rear ventilation outlets in a 2022 car. What is up with that?!
Solved differently. Air goes from the front windows and the foot area under the seats to the back.
Works in a small car perfectly. Have the same in my Id.3. no problem.
the big qestion... it is worth the difrences? If you will buy tomorow a new one wich did u choose?
Id.3
@@BatteryLife Me also... I prefered Id3 more than Id4 and cupra or skoda.... but i take pros with heat pump... 400 km trip, one charge, last weekend...
@@AdrianBlaga but ProS only has two seats in the back, right?
@@BatteryLife Why ?
@@HelloMyFriend_ no anymore... mine is from august... with 5 seats...
WAIT, your car has an 8 PERCENT loss of range after 4 months? Please tell me more. :)
Oh, I see there has been extensive discussions that I have completely missed, now I have something to dive into!
14 months. I made a video about ir.
Tbh I’m not a huge fan of the way things are going with massive screens in cars
the price issue in Sweden for the Born is just messed up, since it belongs to the VAG group everything is optional… it ends up at €500 per month! I can get a Marvel R for less! 😂 heck i even saw a Mach-E deal for €490.
Hope the 3.0 OTA will give this one the proper Cockpit display info too.
It really needs consumption info in front.
And charging speed needs kW on the display.
Both will not come in 3.0 but later
@@BatteryLife oh, Sjips. They said 3.0 😥
@@RedBatteryHead at least you will be able to see SOC in % with the 3.0 Update. (without looking in the app every time)
@@Ultravore yes indeed. Got my Born now 2 months. And first OTA for the empty online shop 😂
Can't wait for the 3.x though.
Mis trip info in cockpit. You can't see any km without going into the full menu. That's just weird. Only on start you see total odo.
@@RedBatteryHead Lucky one, you got it delivered with 3.0 software already 😄 I got my car only 1 month ago but it was actually manufactured (and then waiting for last part) in february so it's still 2.3 and it is not OTA capable yet 😬
Heeeeeeellllllooooo
This is wird. I get same range with Citroen E C4, that has 45kWh usable battery. Same speed, same temperature.🤔🤔🤔
I doubt that! Did you drive at avg soeed 126 km/h, with heat at 22 degrees? I tested a Peugeot e2008 in warmer temp and got 160 km
...and wet road!
...and real gps speed, not what the speedometer shows?
@@BatteryLife yes really. Citroen E C4 has much better stats then P2008. Look at Bjorn test of E C4. He is much relevant then me.
the infotainment system looks very sluggish and I really hate how you have to use the steering wheel "buttons". I was really looking forward to this car but I'm just put off it right now.
This is the issue with electric cars. You didn't even get 200km of real range. It's way to little for realistic scenarios.
200% better looking than ID3. What I wanted. But arriving 2 years too late after they first teased it. Got Tesla model 3 instead.
That said, that range you achieved is just awful !! 214km! At same speeds and temperature in my model 3LR I can get ~380km. Thats about ~78% more range, yet the battery (at just under 70kwh) is only 24% greater capacity.
Likewise my 2017 BMW i3 has a 32kwh battery but can get 155km at these kind of temperatures - which is 72% of this Cupra's range - but with 57% of this car's battery.
Maybe I have misunderstood? Is this one of the worst efficiency EVs out there? The Audi e-tron of smaller cars?
No, totally normal in these conditions at that avg speed and no elevation change. Kona,eNiro, id.3, i3 would be the same.
No chance a BMW i3 94ah will get 155 kms on a single charge at 130 kph at this temperature. I tried it, at 130 kph you might just get 150 out of it in warm weather, in the cold, good luck getting a 100 out of it at such speeds.
190km only?? for a 50k euro car?
November, cold, high speed. Totally normal.
@@BatteryLife Very bad since where I live it is -5 to -20 degrees celsius 4-6 months per year
I absolutely love the exterior, even more than Tesla 3. If Tesla did the drivetrain, SW or if it came with Android Automotive, I’d definitely buy the car! I wonder how much time it will take for OEMs to figure out that they cannot compete with Android or Tesla SW.
MBUX is brilliant too, I’d say better than Tesla (I’ve owned both).
Take a look at the incoming Renault Megane E Tech 2022, double 12inch screens (1 landscape and 1 portrait) powered by Android Automotive OS.
@@AlbertRibas Sure, that is my plan.
BMW, Audi, Porsch, Mercedes got well made infotainment
@@jonpetter8921No comment :)
Arggh get some buttons proding and swiping is a safety hazard! 😠
No not really.
@@raphi25895 I can find any button in my A3 without having to look. I dont get it: The idea that touch buttons (or a big touch screen) are a suitable substitute is a daft idea. Give me buttons!
@@Chilternflyer the majority look down when they press a button, whether touch or real. In addition, what you have to operate while driving can be selected via the steering wheel, by language or is attached high up and easy to reach. I drove the ID3, the car was very easy and logical to use, and I had no problems with the touch buttons.
133 miles range....that's pretty awful....my Seat Ibiza 1.0TSI has a range of about 400 miles when driving on the motorway. Shows how much progress still has to be made with electric cars
No, range is not that important. How often do you drive 400 miles in one drive? I drive 52km every day for work. Charge at home.
Every month a longer trip where I charge at the destinations.
You would get up to 40 miles more range at 70mph. 80mph really hammers the battery as it represents about 30% more drag..
@@BatteryLife He might be wrong about the comparison but he‘s right that 133 s not that impressive, especially if you think the way you have to charge it. Bad charging navigation, the whole way of authentication at the charging station and so on. This works much better at other EVs.
This range is pretty awful - one of the worst I have seen. My Tesla model 3LR does 350miles in summer ~250miles in winter. I drove it more than thousand miles over 3 days around wilderness areas of Scotland with no issues during summer 2021 with only 3 stops to charge (about 20 minutes or 40minute each time) . You might have trim expectations in wintertime though
La id3 è inimitabile..sobria e stile semplice ma insospettabilmente grintosa....non mi piace la Born, troppo "estremizzata" x dimostrare la sua sportività...non serve mostrare i muscoli sempre,importante è scattate quando serve😁🖖
Didn't VW refund part of the heat pump price because it never reached the promised energy savings?
Yes they did.
@@BatteryLife Thank you. It would be interesting to get some data from a large number of ID.3 drivers on whether the heat pump made any relevant difference at all...
@@BatteryLife and it still cost a 1000€ and barely works. Pretty bad deal.
Saliste con un 93%, no 100%. De todas formas, 200km a 130km/h me parece una vergüenza. 40.000€ por eso... Demasiado dinero.
Cupra = VW ID + some extra, cheap bling bling plastic... VW is kaput!
The car looks nice, but these electric cars are crap, 200 km of range makes it completely useless for travel, my old car with more than 20 years old gas ice had 700 km of range, and add 40000 euros or more for an ev, its a waste
Omg 200km range is terrible....
Not with these heat settings and in this temp.
@@BatteryLife how do you think the Tesla model 3 (standard range) would perform under those same conditions pls?
@@redhotchilibitch I get approx 380km in my long range under similar temperature and speeds
The usable capacity of SR+ is 52.5 kWh vs approx 70kwh in LR - so I would assume about =380 * (52.5/70) = 285km.
Same result like in other tests:
VW Heatpump is useless or even bad for consumption.
How embarrassing to sell such crap to customers!!!
VW/Skoda/... should be ashamed.
VW has never been ashamed to cheat 🙂