INTJ Secrets: The Art of Independence
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- Опубліковано 20 кві 2023
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I think INTJs would unanimously agree that they feel loved when they feel deeply understood. But each in their own way with their own words, of course ❤️.
Maybe somewhat understood is a more reasonable expectation ;)
Sometimes love just comes out as advice in how to better the person in question. LOL
As someone who has had to lower their expectations time and time again I now subscribe to the mantra that 'a life lived being half-loved is a half-lived life'.
Being seen: one of the best and worst feelings. Validating and vulnerable in equal measure ~ Nathan
+@@lovewho That's how I feel right now reading this comment. That's how I've been feeling the whole time I've been watching MBTI content. STOP SEEING ME, but also don't.
I have a "no trash" rule I strive to apply for everything: people that care about you and positively influence you, activities that help you maintain/reach high levels and obviously consuming things that impact you. Remove all the remaining unnecessary trash that doesn't help you grow and/or stops you from being better you.
Biggest struggle was taking action instead of constant daydreaming and thinking about what will be, but after regulating emotional issues and quitting videogames and binge watching, productivity levels are at all-time high and I'm not stuck in my head anymore.
Congratulations on breaking the loop. Sounds like self-aware behavior. Next stop equanimity. I've visited, but haven’t been able to stay for long.
How did you regulate emotional issues? I am 22 year old INTJ. I was on my way to becoming a healthy version of myself but things happened and now I am emotionally broken and have been depressed for a year. I am as further away from my best self as I ever have been. Some advice would be really helpful.
I have the same rule. Especially for people in my life.
@@manavnayyar Do what you do best as an INTJ. Carefully identify the root causes of what led you in a worse path in the first place. Make an action plan on how to deal with those issues, and assign it to time:
What is the aim for the day? Slice it into actionable steps for the hours within that day. Let those steps stretch out to a week. Allow it to build in you habits for the sake of consistency. Let this productive system run auto-pilot. If you mess up along the way, get back up. Be resilient. If things go well, reward yourself and keep going.
You can also plan bigger: What is your dream life by the end of this year? How will you manage it and simulate new beginnings every quarter to freshen things up? Break this down for each monthly goal. Journal it down.
Your recovery depends on how much you're willing to make it happen. Once you have your action plan ready, continue executing it. INTJs will always find a way as long as we continue harnessing our Extraverted Thinking (Te) skills.
@@BuizelCream Thank you kind soul. Sometimes I forget the most fundamental things, like you described, in the face of this horrible life. I will try my best and turn it around. One day at a time.
INTJ here. The crazy thing is the large majority of rules have no consequences when broken. The only thing keeping the population following them is fear. People just have to hear a story of someone else getting in trouble and they will be obedient. 🤯
That's an unsettling notion. I'll be honest and say that... I quite agree! Sometimes it feels like the people who break certain rules even get an advantage (not referring to actual laws here of course) ~ Nathan
I learned this as panopticon theory (or Foucault's panopticism). Its fascinating. The best example is a red light when you know there are no cops or other traffic coming. Most people stop anyway and wait, just in case someone can see.
Exactly! When my parents and friends threatened I'd be in trouble, I immediately thought "maybe I want to be in trouble". Some personalities are so afraid of being shamed that the threat of shame is enough!
It's certainly true for politicians, media reps, and other cultural elites....including those who loudly proclaim only the other side breaks the rules.
Not fear, but inertia. You have to realize the vast majority of people are sensors. Si individuals look back upon the past for guidance and precedence for how to proceed. Se individuals look around for how other people behave and copy that to fit in. This naturally results in a rule following population.
There is a biological need for INTJ’s that is often overlooked. We are capable of restarting a society. If for example, a terrible natural disaster we’re to happen, INTJ along with whoever survived or through migration can carry the biology of their people. Due to their qualities of independence, less need for the group, planning, intelligence and the ability to let their mind control their feelings creates a person who is a strong survivor 💪. I have come to realize that is why INTJ’s don’t fit. If we fit like other personalities we might not want to survive after so much loss. I came to this perspective while talking with a friend from South Asia who lost her whole family, neighborhood and city to a tsunami. She had gone out of town just before it happened and had nothing to come back too. My friend already had for a person from her area a bigger view and was traveling so she moved to America and with typical INTJ grit opened a business but when we talk the pain of her loss is there but she was able to pickup and start a family, business and new life. Not many people think of independence and self belief as necessary but as a survival trait particularly in INTJ’s it is necessary. So my fellow INTJ’s nature gave you an extra responsibility ❤
As an INTJ I learn the system used by whatever situation I’m in, so that I can go against it and do things my way, without getting into trouble.
We are more likely to find a more proficient way of doing it.
As an INTJ I sometimes feel... Like the only one who fights for truth and justice - if not for others, then at least for myself. This leads me to a lot of conflicts and I am usually alone against the group who does something very wrong [because if they were right then why would I argue with them?]. Altough I don't mind being outside of a project or doing everything on my own. I am doing it better than them anyway and needing help is a rarity for me and probably most of INTJs.
That truth-seeking nature is a recipe for much conflict in life. Ultimately, based on seeing people who are wired similarly, it is worth it ~ Nathan
Pretty relatable. Although I hate doing projects and just lazily do them unless it's of something of interest lol.
Nature always covers every base it can. When the tribe is charging off a cliff, INTJs evolved to say, "why?"
Follow us if you want to avoid the madness of the group!
! My mother used to say if she told my sister and I to jump my sister would be already in the air before she was finished talking but I would be standing with hands on hips demanding "why".
I will just follow myself to avoid both of your madnesses
@@drugdje914
'You're all individuals!"
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"I'm not!"
@@burnyizland Monty Python reference. Well played ~ Nathan
I'm picturing an INTJ just calmly standing by watching the majority of the tribe going over that cliff. Oddly enjoyable imagery ~ Nathan
Even before i knew typology or i am INTJ, i always used to say to myself. I hate being powerless, i hate being dependent on other people,
Eventually i am at the place where I don't need to trust anyone because people seem incompetent and don't think through thingse, i have even mastered the Fe after some insane amount of effort maybe 5000hrs of reading+reflection etc and i can handle people's ego pretty easily
That kind of dependency is a massive INTJ fear. It drives much of their thinking and decisions ~ Nathan
You really get us INTJs more than any other channel. I am my own authority.
Agreed. Most other channels are too personal with their experiences (if they are an INTJ) which may sully the generalization to others in a way. Other Channels that focus on other MBTI tend to either do the stereotypical "Mastermind" type or the Extremely Socially-Aloof, Calculated Introverted Genius which is also strange. When Nathan does it, it is quite concise and yet general that it helps the mind and soul want to reflect upon who we are. Well, except his shorts. Those are Gold.
This is great to hear. There is always this looming sense of danger that the INTJs will come for me if I put out information that is wildly inaccurate about them. That's a handy incentive to have ~ Nathan
@@lovewho don't worry about it Nathan. we won't come for you yet. you are pretty far down the list.
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Healthy intjs are such chads, I often envy their self awareness, visionary ideas and how effortlessly yet unintentionally hilarious they are when they bluntly state their opinions, leaving the dullest of knives completely speechless -IxTP
"Chads"? Pardon me, I just threw up in my mouth. Put down the incel pipe before you dry out every pair of undies in a 50 mile radius. That's the effect that kind of language has on women.
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied you think so? why?
This is the best ending ever! If I weren't already subscribed, I would.
Just hit the button again, it does a secret thing called the DoubleSub.
@@kindauncool LIAR.
You know, sometimes I wish people could subscribe twice and have it count both times ~ Nathan
I'm an INTJ, and I approve this message
I should have gotten an INTJ to sign off at the end of the video with this ~ Nathan
In regards to not wanting to be part of a conventional system, speaking as an INTJ, if the system were to align with my goals in a way that's optimal for my purposes, I probably wouldn't have any issue with it. The problem comes when it's not optimal for my purposes. If it's not optimal, it feels very wasteful and I don't like doing it. It's hard to have any appetite for doing superfluous things when Se is your inferior function.
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied I am working on it, but there's actually a problem here, that in order to implement a better system, INTJ's have to be socially-gifted (which doesn't really come easy for us) or of a higher status, in order to implement them. That makes it a bit more difficult. Though, I have been working on that too, and even though I've gained more respect for it conceptually, I still don't really like having to do it. I could respect the social game if it would respect me in return, but it never does. It's totally one-sided. It's not even about what you say (or do), but how you say it. To an INTJ, before the eventual realization and subsequent understanding sets in, there's just no difference there. The INTJ is going to focus on the meaning of it (which is detached from the person and their desires), and the meaning of what was said stays the same, even if it was said in a different way. So, sometimes you say the same thing you've been saying, and it just happens to offend people this time.
People expect you to be socially gifted, and if you're not, they attack you as though you were acting maliciously toward them. So, because INTJ's don't even process it that way, like it's an alien concept. It just appears as though people would randomly, at any time in an interaction, turn to hating you to various degrees, for no apparent reason. This can only be avoided by not saying what you actually believe, and going along with the generally accepted idea instead. To an INTJ, that basically just means they don't care about you at all. We feel cared for when we're understood. So, in practice, it seems downright cruel to me, but like I said, in concept, I have a respect for what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be a way of handling the more animalistic functions of people, where you have your feelings, biases, desires, etc. The things that drive you toward something. Tact is just a way of managing the feelings of others.
Just wanted to give that perspective. I think most people don't understand that at all. Especially the people who are socially aware.
That's a good point actually. In that sense, INTJs are conventional and happy to be the form, just for a world that doesn't exist yet ~ Nathan
This might be the most irrelevant comment ever written by an INTJ, though I do not think I should feel ashamed to post it. Nathan: you made me cry with the description.
Thank you for such a succinct yet accurate analysis. Most importantly though: thank you for your understanding.
This means a lot to read. Far from irrelevant to me! ~ Nathan
Commercials: "Every [insert social group] needs this!"
INTJ: "No, you need me to buy your product. I will decide for myself if it's useful or not."
After 40 or so years on this spinning marble as an INTJ, the tendency (or just having the courage) to go against the tribe has evolved into something more extreme.
There have been enough times that "the way it's always been done", "what everyone else is doing", "what everyone knows", etc. has been so wrong (or outdated, or no longer applicable, or whatever)--and on such a grand scale--that the slightest twinge from Ni that something doesn't quite feel right leads to a reflexive contrarianism.
Simply put, this feeling alone is enough to make me (us?) see that assuming everyone else is wrong is the most efficient way to approach matters--not just being the devil's advocate for the sake of the argument--but to actually trace back "what is" to the "whys". That is, to determine the first principles and underlying assumptions that lead to the status quo, filter out the good from the bad/obsolete, and re-extrapolate to see if we end up in the same place.
Does this sometimes lead to "reinventing the wheel"? Yes. But I'm okay with that, because in so doing, I can arrive at not only a better understanding of the underlying subject, but a more confident path forward in acting/deciding/judging a certain way in relation to it.
And, even if that weren't the case, the number of times it's turned out that we can see that someone's put wheels on a boat (and shout into the darkness in frustration that we're the only ones who can see it) make this a net net winning strategy.
The same thing you described has happened to me, over the last ~20 years. Well-articulated.
INTP here. Literally trying to be more like you, and getting good at it.
Like from a fellow INTJee.
I like our INTJean way of thinking, but I don't agree with your evaluation of social methods.
As from my experience, society works the way closer to a neuronetwork - that is, it is able to learn and, in their civilizational point of view, inventing (by centuries of trying) the best working approaches in that case or another. So, sometimes "going against the social tide" is more like "sheep ramming the gate on and on near the opened passage" or "inventing bicycle when it's already invented". Sometimes - I dare say - "to go against the tide" itself means being a part of an ignorant crowd.
"Pragmatical" is no less inportant, than "independant" for an INTJ. If there are socially invented methods that work well - no problem to use it. Or even enhance them.
@@mirriyastia7041 I think what the OP is trying to say, is that he doesn't want to follow a commonly accepted practice just because it's commonly accepted.
If he understands the underlying principle behind the practice, and it is viable and pragmatic, then he has no problem with using it.
The problem starts when someone tells you to follow a certain practice, but fails to explain _why_ such a practice is recommended in the first place. If OP then fails to see the merit of using that practice, and whoever proposes it, fails to explain why it would be best to use it, then - if I understand correctly - OP prefers to rely on his own judgement and try to find his own "best method", even if the end result will be ultimately just him, arriving at the conclusion that the original practice really is the best.
In other words, "I will not follow someone else just because they told me I should. Either they will get me on board by explaining to me _why_ I should follow them, and if it's convincing enough, I have no qualms about following them, or I will do my own thing - even if by doing my own thing, I end up following that person anyway."
Sometimes when I read the comments I feel like they should be posted somewhere like on a blog, or just out there in the world for more people to see them. Then again, it's nice to see lots of people engaging with them here as well. Thank you for this comment ~ Nathan
I tend to be faaaarrr less tactful than you: I have ZERO pause taking on Police or any other "power entity" once I hold incriminating evidence that calls their ethics into question: the most direct way to shift something is to illuminate the inherent flaws & draw clear distinction lines between profession of action & actual operation...
And I will add that tactfulness hasn't ever reduced the despise of my capability to spot flaws & call them out...🖤
How other people figure out the new coworker’s name: ask them
How INTJ does: Look at the timeclock/schedule and see what name I don’t recognize.
Save time trying to find the person, save energy provoking a draining social interaction, do it on my own and thus without any outside complications, quick and logical, save effort mishearing name.
And circumvent a verbal encounter.
As an INTJ, I subscribed but I've never felt fully committed to it
Then I shall endeavour to keep you interested for as long as possible ~ Nathan
When trying to fit in, you never stand out.
Video tries to get me to subscribe
Me: Nope, not gonna do it
Video admits defeat and doesn't try
Me: ...subscribes
In admitting defeat, you have won. Well played.
I embraced the reality of my situation and an INTJ rewarded me for it. Makes sense ~ Nathan
I am an INTJ and high functioning Asperger's diagnosis, and as a female, this makes me a delicious dark and cynical freak of nature.
I have a non binary mind and like my time alone. One would also describe me as a goth misanthrope. I wonder if there is a link between being Aspergers and INTJ. There has to be. So many cross overs and similarities.
I was diagnosed Aspergers at 57 a few years ago , 6 months ago I found the MBTI and slotted nicely, I thought into the INTJ . Further study of it brought me to understand I'm more ISTP but this video still feels appropriate for me .
Anyway there seem to be no videos on how the MBTI intersects with Aspergers/Autism but it sure seem like many INTJs would fill the criteria to be on the spectrum .
Hi! I'm also female, somewhere on the Autistic/Asperger's spectrum, non binary, and an INTJ. *waves* I've also been curious where the autism ends and the INTJ begins. I'm at the point where I almost think the two are different terms for the same thing - but there are many who disagree with me. I write over on Quora and this subject is quite contentious there but you might find the discussion interesting. I haven't talked to any women like us anywhere though, it's nice to know you're out there.
@@davidgreen424 Exactly. Hence why I ask. Needs more coverage. *intense stare*
@@topkek_ No, my mind is nether male or female. It is as least a combination of both but far more fitting is it a higher spirituality. It transcends sexuality or gender. I think as a spiritual being.
I dont over complicate anything and know exactly what I say and why. I dont need role models in the earth because I have a very solid sense and discernment of who I am. Its not confusing whatsoever, and has a direction focused like a sniper.
I am not family oriented. I have exercised my identity in all areas. Your "advice" doesnt apply to me and would be better suited for someone else.
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied I dont labels myself and discard /reject all labels anyone tries to place on me. I am not a "lovely" person. More dark and brooding and cynical. Emotional depth is correct however.
No one tried to diagnose me. I obtained it myself. I would say labels are different than knowing who one is and using self accepted descriptions to describe that. Thats different and what MDRI etc are in my opinion.
I am going to shout it here because it feels like the best place for INTJs, I want an INTJ Chatroom!
I love INTJs
That sounds about right.
My mom joked when I was younger they should've just named me "but why?".
I love that! ~ Nathan
I’m entering formalized academia for the first time since I was 6 this year to earn a Master’s degree I care deeply about. The whole system is so wasteful and slow. I could get the whole thing done if I was told to read a stack of books and then got to spend a week talking and working alongside a master. But no, I get points off because I miss time-related details or don’t know how to manipulate Word document styles to their desires.
Who cares? I’m not getting a degree in document formatting.
I’ve only learned a few details so far although the books will be useful to recommend to others and am losing hope that they will ever give me a course that challenges me-but there’s no way I’m putting up with the straitjacket to get a doctorate at this point.
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied I appreciate the sentiment. I am deeply enjoying the connections I'm making with people and the choices of materials they are requiring. It's just the stupid issues like knocking off points because of document formatting that bug me.
Plus, I want to work for a specific group. I'm frankly tired of not even being eligible for jobs I'm well qualified for because they can't look past my lack of higher education. Sadly, such self-motivated indie learning is far too rare a thing for most people to take a risk on.
god don't get me started with the insane politics in academia jesus
I'm not sure whether it's always been the case in academia, but it seems that it's become bloated and dare I say bureaucratic. It's a shame to see. I'm sure the system overall still works, but it could be so much better too! ~ Nathan
You decide which hoops you will jump through, and where you will land.
As always your videos give me concepts that I can use everyday and enhance my life as INTJ.
Keep the up the good work!
Of all the things I could hear, this is by far the best. I want the information in the videos to be useful and actionable ~ Nathan
I'm a 15 year old INTJ, I've always valued things that rely on skill only, And have always tried to do everything by myself.
I trust myself but that doesn't mean I don't listen to others, I consider their idea's and contemplate, analyze over it and then come up with a conclusion. And then I regard it as my own idea.
Your a old soul. I'm 49 and just figuring myself out.
In my life, people like family and friends always wanted to force me to be in a relationship. And of course, it always made me very anxious and stressed.
Recently, I watch 'The lobster' from Yorgos Lanthimos and I was never so angry with a movie before this one, because of the narrative about forcing people for getting a partner so they can SURVIVE.
That does sound quite painful indeed... ~ Nathan
To be honest there is plenty of other people to ensure surviving of the species. There is too many people on this planet anyway.
@@farfaraway4285 I once had a conversation with someone about why I don't wanna have a lot of kids because of the society and how bad eveything it's getting, they agreed but said that it's people like me who think this way that should be having kids to build a better society and future, so sometimes I find myself reconsidering because... they're not wrong.
Is this comment section just a bunch of INTJ's hyping each other up lol?
'one another' not 'each other'.. may be you are the only non INTJ :) And you've made that clear :)
The differnce between being alone and lonely is Choice, and when that choice is stripped away you find vulnerable people, serene they seem, walking with storm they are
Poetically put! ~ Nathan
As an ISFP, I'm surprised how much I relate to INTJs.
As INTJ, I absolutely love the ISFPs. My best friend is an ISFP and like how he thinks he's similar to how INTJs think is super cute.
I've often thought (and said) that those types are extremely similar to the point of being confused for each other quite easily. ISFPs are underratedly intuitive and INTJs underratedly driven by their values ~ Nathan
I’ve got an idea, video games for each personality type.
I really needed this ego boost today. Thanks Nathan.
Any time! ~ Nathan
I think we can appear narrow-minded, but "dismissive" is probably a better term. Part of Ni's chief functioning is the pruning of needless information, or at least, what it perceives to be needless information. But for such a process to take place, you need a reference point, which in day-to-day grown-up tasks is going to be Te. Although I actually prefer the _idea_ of Ti, I think most INTJs would agree that objective, verifiable data in the real world is a much better foundation for deciding what information warrants genuine attention, rather than someone's subjective internal modelling.
However, this is more a description of an INTJ in executive functioning. I'm probably not alone when I say that although I find Te easier than Ti, it's not a function I necessarily like very much, and it's not a part of myself I like very much. When I'm in "Te mode", and it is allowed to expand too far, I can become quite a tyrant and very overbearing to those around me. Especially as I age, Te has become more of a tool than a fundamental part of my identity. I can wield that tool very well, but I don't necessarily like it.
And I think this is part of the reason why INTJs are so rare: it's a combination that shouldn't really go together. If you remove Te from the equation, you have Ni + Fi + Se -- three things I can identify with very strongly, and three things that are going to highly iconoclastic. Put Te back into that mix and you have a kind of system-building anarchist, which is kind of an oxymoron, isn't it?
Always love your intj videos we're looking forward to see more of it❤
This is nice to hear and a great incentive to keep making more! ~ Nathan
Already subscribed a while ago friend. ;)
I don't think any other type really gets that about us, that we are more interested in what's true and right than we are in agreeing for the sake of getting along or worrying about what a change in thinking based on new information means for our egos. I spent so long thinking if I just explained myself to people in the right way I could get them on board with ideas that make sense. It's only relatively recently I've realized the futility of that! But this is good, now I can work on learning what DOES work. Mwahaha.
I would say that INTJs occupy that strange space of being seen as arrogant but being one of the least ego-driven types of all. It's a peculiar irony ~ Nathan
@@lovewho It’s something like we’re always working for the greater good, it’s not our fault that we are the few that can actually see what it is. And that we are so sure of it. Instead of people accepting that we make sense they get angry because we make more sense than them. Sorry, I talk too much but this is how I feel it.
The first 45 seconds and I has a big smile on my face.
You're level to understand the types at this point gives you nigh savant status.
As an INTJ, I choose to subscribe to your channel because your videos are insightful, interesting and concise ways to explain personality type to those I share them with.
The conclusion in the last seconds of the vid is 100% correct!
This applies to me completely. Thanks for the contribution.
I heart you on the face. Thank you. I can just efficiently share this with people, and now they get me.
Great content love it
Why thank you... ~ Nathan
I really like your video’s. Brilliant ending … You certainly understand INTJ‘s 😂
My husband. I love all these things about him!
Aww, you’re so sweet! What is your type?
@@LilacSnowBun INFP
@@AChickandaDuck I told myself, ‘don’t assume infp, ask instead’. Love you infps :)
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied That makes me happy. My ex infj definitely did not. :)
@@LilacSnowBun oh man, are we that predictable? 🤣
This is a great summary.
Glad to hear it! ~ Nathan
Thanks a lot!
not a subscriber but I watch every video. good thing about the algorithm-driven youtube system is that it feeds me the channels I interact with the most automatically. I wish you a lovely day, cutie.
Well well... foiled by the machinations of YT... ~ Nathan
Note: my personal experience as an INTJ is that we don't necessarily not care about other people's opinions, it's that we are Incapable of it (certainly my case).
I recall going to this workshop on mental health for my own research hobby, and at one point we had to fill a questionnaire. One question went "Do you have a hard time getting in touch with your own feelings due to them being drowned out by the feelings of people around you?" My reaction then was "Mmph, of course not. Who'd answer yes? People aren't mind-readers." Then I peaked at the response of the girl beside me, only to discover that she had answered "completely agree."
So, it appears that Fe grants its users a mind-reading ability that we seem to be lacking.
Now, that said, perhaps I'd still not care even with mind-reading abilities, but in my case I am genuinely never looking to hurt anyone.
oh, a certain level of the obsession. That's the good wording.
It's definitely something I've seen from INTJs! ~ Nathan
Just when i think i need to write something about INTJs because, well I'm an INTJ, you remove the need.
Allow me to be your long-term content provider ~ Nathan
Thanks for sharing
💙 It's right !
Now you’re making me wonder if my personality traits are due to horrible childhood conditions. I could have given up and failed, but I have survived and am a functioning and decently successful person. I am often misunderstood, but those who see me know I am loyal and trustworthy. Cross me and you’re dead to me.
You also get a like as well as the sub, cheers for the explanation.
That ending made me chuckle out loud -intj
i'ld love to be the most common type of intj, the blunt one who are unapologetically themselves, but i realized life is easier when you're "palatable" so i had to fit in...
Jordan Peterson's type please!
😂great ending!
Rising in the morning to kill more gods, just another day as INTJ
The ending is genius)
Being an INTJ has helped in a number of situations, that streak of independence is very handy
Bitcoin is INTJ
Could you do an INTJ-T vs INTJ-A vid? If you haven't already that is.
-A and -T is just something 16p made up. Funny how it has gained a lot of credence.
Is it weird when people call me stubborn arrogant know-it-all and I take it as a compliment?
Ehhhh I'm more or less used to it since I'm unwavering in most things but oddly open-minded.
As an INTJ, common INTJs W 🌝
Bravo!
ESFJs as leaders please!
I'm the intJ whisperer
Whisper their secrets in my ear... ~ Nathan
My god ive always been afraid of dependency. Even If i were to hear out other people's opinions and thinking I always take in many different thinking and make my own absolute opinion on the matter questioning everything. Ive always aspire to be like my grandpa who is wise and knowing and had to endure the evils of Cuba. For the sake of my future I will never stoop as low as the sheep everyone is now and how even 40 year old men still lazing about. I always felt like obtaining skills, working and improving, bringing up my knowledge, and business felt like my thing anyways.
Its so frustrating sometimes that people NEED to "chat" about literally nothing. I try to hide the disdain on my face but i cant help it. I feel like I have to constantly remind myself... "ok now ask the other person a question" "react more to what they are saying" finally at the end of most conversations I'm exhausted and super drained. I don't do it on purpose. Just facts.
I've always thought Rand was a dog water philosopher tbh. Great video though Nathan!
What happens when we stop trusting our inner voice?
Well, bad things. Even success can feel hollow when achieved by listening to other people's voices ~ Nathan
I’d say entp is like this too
You know. Clever.
I dont know what is my personality I fall under both INFJ & INTJ sometimes I am logical and sometimes too irrational sometimes I feel to help others as best I can and sometimes I don’t care . And when I set a goal I dont care about anything just the goal find ways to solve I won’t admit the traditional methods I will make my own way to solve problems unqiue methods. And when it comes to one to one conversation I am a master when it comes in writing I nail it when comes in maths I nail it but INFJ (wont most of them) what am I 😅
INFJ or INTJ
How do you know that your dominant function is Ni? If asked, could you give examples of Ni usage ? Being “a type” is not about falling into a category. It is more so a roadmap to figuring out how our brain connects information. While Te and Ti and Fe and Fi differ greatly, at the end of the day, the strengths and weaknesses of Ni dominant and Se inferior types actually collide. Both are abstract thinkers. Meaning that they see concepts and ideas as something that is more real than concrete things. Constructing/deconstructing ideas in the head would come naturally to both. And the world is made out of ideas. Behind everything we see and experience, there is an idea that started it all. Also, where does this notion that a type may not be good at math come from? Is that because some have F instead of T? Furthermore, reading on the difference between logical and rational may help.
@@solarisan_ I am not an expert in it I just shared my thoughts on that. I am sorry If I have presented something wrong I would like u to correct me. And thank you for that information, I have to read cognitive functions deeply.
And about Maths INFJs tend to be more focused on emotions and personal connections than on analytical thinking, which could make them less interested or skilled in math. Additionally, INFJs may struggle with math if they have a learning difference or have not had access to quality math education. But also INFJs are very fast-paced learners as INFJs are known for their keen intuition and strong analytical skills, which can help them quickly grasp complex concepts. So they can excel here too but I just wanted to verify stuff. And I didn’t said every INFJ is good in mathematics.
And You didn't understand what I said taking mathematics as an example, here I wanted to say that is linked to determination when I am focused I don't care about anybody I only care about the task no matter how long it takes because INFJs are stubborn or its something of rationality. Please help me in this topic.
And on the Ni here is what I think to be its a cognitive function that operates on an unconscious level and involves synthesizing information to form a deep understanding of deep patterns, connections, and possibilities. It is inwardly(taking things in) focused, meaning that it primarily deals with internal thoughts and perceptions rather than external sensory data. This function allows to picture future possibilities and anticipate potential outcomes. They express their sudden feelings as their “gut feeling” comes from inside.
Thats how I know. If is said anything wrong please correct me.
@@hvcreator2380 The reason why Ni is "unconscious" is because it relies on taking in information from the sensory to further deconstruct and find ideas behind it. This being a process that happens all the time, a person gets to store those ideas and information that in situations emerge and one may not be aware in the moment where the "revelation" came from. It is kinda like a Rubik's cube. You shift the sides all the time till those click and form a bigger picture than the smaller squares of the Rubik's cube.
@@solarisan_ Thanks on that and Yah you are 100% correct at this. I would like to learn more, Do u know to solve that I do?
Both
Well, I am the closest type to the INTJ, INFJ. All of this stuff if why we love our Ni shared brethren. Also, we would prefer to hang out with the INTJ over here while the "tribe" stays over there.
The ending though 😂
Thumbnail caught me off guard. Almost skipped the video, not because it is bad but because it doesn't follow the style of thumbnails of past videos.
agree.
Are you suggesting that INTJs aren’t good at knowing when to do things and often never getting around to them? I’ve got some harsh words to say about that, and I’ll get around to telling you them eventually.
Yeah, it’s probably my type.
Rather be an ESTP or ENTJ. I might be ENTJ… but still. The INTJ thing keeps being thrown at me. I started off my life with heavy Te… but I was tossed into my introversion for lots of good reasons. Or Ni and Te develop at the same time. Somehow; even though it should have been Ni and Fi first.
I don’t know.
Whatever.
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied Just so you’re aware… I’ll be entertaining ENFP (Ne Te Fi Si) at the behest of someone who was helpful. So.. you could be right. Maybe.
I don’t appreciate your one-liner - I’m highly sensitive to any condescension of any kind. I don’t take it well, not towards myself or others.
That being said… I was definitely overly harsh on you.
I’m sorry.
Any advice for an ISFP/INTJ relationship? It would be much appreciated😄 coming from the ISFP✌️
Know that INTJs are very emotional inside (that is connected with that "emotional drive" Nathan spoke about). You, as a loving partner, are allowed to touch this emotional layer. Please be careful with that, and you will be able to influence your INTJ, as they can develop trust. And also you may learn their way of thinking and approaches - it helps in understanding motives of INTJ behaviour. It's not like to copy it, that would be boring for an INTJ, but understanding and thoughtful cooperation with the help of that would be really appreciated.
@@mirriyastia7041 thank you😁
I might make a video on these two types at some point. They're surprisingly similar and often confused for each other in my experience. Relationships between them will be fascinating to analyse ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Yes, thank you! I literally just told my mom yesterday that we (my INTJ bf and I the ISFP) are similar in some ways and then complete opposites in others😋
Brother, I’m truly stressed out that I need to go through such a school system where you need to be a part of a tribe and controlled by the now and over a decade ago decision. I alr have a plan and am aware of how to achieve it, my limitations and my potential. And clearly the current school system specifically in my city doesn't support those needs.
Alhamdulilah I’m accepted to the top private school here in my country, lot of teachers and friends yeah the usual congrats stuff. But for me, it doesn't help at all. I'm thinking of homeschooling, STEM focused semiformal activities, and autodidact. Which all is generally cheaper than the private school yet more helpful. But yeah I alr registered as a student there and will start July.
I can always change my perspective and.. To get to 10 there are infinite way, but.. my oppurtunies.. Do I just let them fly away and do meaningless things (80% of them) in a whole 3 years.. Destroying my mental physical and spiritual health again.. I already had enough.. Or not.. Schools just waste too much potential and it is supposed to be like that, we need more sheep to keep the country going, but as a spiritually awake I really need to optimize my energy and mind to at least stay sane, and then improvise and innovate
1:52 oh shi-
one feed back, the fluctuation of your speech, the way you are sequencing and making pauses in sentences; I know it can be effective and helpful in transfering information, but your tone is so constance that defeat the porpose of slicing the sentences.
I suggest that you change your voice as well, like air plane, from taking off and landing, reduce and increase your tone/voice from in sentence.
or simply don't pause in middle of sentence.
I wonder if you have elementary videos of mbti!? i think you should have ... but ! maybe i am too busy.
If it is no problem and you have energy and time, can you guide me to some basic videos about different receptor/factors of mbti ? i mean, ni ne, te ti, si ....
and also ! i wonder about love life of INTJ, what type is the best match for them ????
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied it's neither odd, nor rude, it is a technique in presentation and expressing feelings; if you haven't heard about it, it is not my fault !
Also, finish reading the sentence! you can see a small explanation...
and even changing the voice tune, like emphasizing words or making the voice bass or changing its pitch, is even fine and normal, especially in presentation and videos like reading news in TV, which here is kinda similar.
Can a intj explain why plot without others knowing.. its a manipulation plot.
what the reason me look from the outside to inside circle in family / friends
True, but I LOATHE your voice.
Goodness how many times the company tried to implement modern methods without understanding that they are not effective for that particular problem and actually bring more suffering. Progress for the sake of progress. And you’re seen as defective because you’re against progress. Some things are ok even if they were used since 17th century. As long as you understand why. As I retire I will leave my boss with list of recommendations before I move along.
Oh how I long for my own independent practice. 😢
I’m INTJ is it right most INTJ are mostly richer mindset?
👍🏼👎🏼?
Why are you talking differently in this video?
Oh man, this pause after every couple of words is killing me. Good content tho
Primarily Fear is what drives them.
intj 5w6............
Vocals were oddly paced, you use AI?
Day X of asking for an isfp video :(((
Ask someone else. Check out Frank James.
If you go to playlists and search the isfp one, Nathan has a few videos about isfps, I don't know if you've already watched them.
@@kindauncool I am not interested in any of frank james videos they are good but very stereotypical and he always talks about 1 thing about isfps in all of the videos . In contrast nathan has a broad perspective
@@ms.misterio5417 already did
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied ok
I subscribed without watching the video yet. I’m reading comments, and enough other intj comments say you have it down so… I’ll watch the video when this movie I’m watching on tv ends. But, if your video sucks, I’ll unsub. Fair enough?
Sounds like a fair deal to me ~ Nathan
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Wtf, I have no recollection of writing this
The man speaks in bullet points, sounds like ai generated answers