Very interesting. Not every video has to have a specific purpose. One of the things I like about your channel is that you are very laid back and just share your experiences with us, mostly in real time. They are all full of valuable knowledge. I have many "aha" moments watching your videos when something I have wondered about is made clear by your your experimentation. Thank you! Keep up the good work!
This was a great video, I'm sure you will get it going as you would like. For us newbies, this was a good illustration of HW vs. SW problems. If it was always easy, electronics/programming would be boring. Can you imagine substituting this hobby with a walk round 18 holes of golf? Learning more keeps the brain alive, and slows down an untimely death... So Thank you!
Back in the early days microphone cables were more popular than dmx cables hence the 3pin XLR. Cheap lights use 3 pin is not an accurate statement as some of the larger companies like Martin used 3 pin xlr on there RoboSCan pan and tilt fixture $1700 back in 2004.
Something to note about the 3 pin XLR is that it's all the pins that are needed. The other 2 pins on the 5 pin connector are either used as a second data network, or else(most of the time) unused.
Yes, it only uses 3 pins, but the DMX standard specification defines the official connector as 5 pin XLR. That's done to prevent accidentally connecting audio cables instead of the correct impedance DMX cables. Much of the time you can get away with the "wrong" cable, but it can make the difference between a working system and a non-working one, especially in a large installation.
Those Tassie LEDS on the breadboard are likely interfering! 🤔 I’ve had *lots* of issues with rotary encoders, but I did manage to find a nice library which worked alongside the TM1637 library on the “Rowing Clock” video. There were a bunch of libraries I used for that project and compatibility with each other was a governing factor. Good luck moving forward…you know I want to shrink it down to an ATTiny! 🤪👍
That is cool. I can see why you're having trouble. It seems to follow the same protocol of modern dsp pedal board effects setups with each song being a different scene because there are only so many foot switches. Cool video man, it's a big project. You're right though just doing a project is the best way to learn. I have a bunch of half done projects but I've decided not to take on anymore until my new workshop is finished and I take a few off the pile and finish haha
The most common, even in the " expensive end " of DMX is the 3 pin. I have seen 5 pin stuff advertised, but not in use. The 5 pin system has 3 "active" pins and 2 disconnected pins or 2 universes in one cable.
When libraries collide, change pins of the lowes common library. Make the I2C ( blues screen ) use different pins, check the back in case it is a different address.
oled, a library is just code, copy it to your project directory and change the include, or add all the code to your code, find the defaults, error check, change, error check ...
Do the Include, then comment out the new library. Now uncomment it one section at a time until it breaks something. It's probably just a duplication of Function/Method or Variable name (or whatever they are called in Arduino language).
Because of the long delivery times you have to buy stuff before you know you need it, the problem is you forget what you ordered years ago so you order it again 🙃
Very nice contoller you've built. I've got disillusioned with Arduino. I bought an UNO and all the extras I needed for a project, about 15 inputs, (a mix of digital and analog), and an OLED for the output. Just the OLED and the rotary encoder took up 47% of the memory. On top of that, I could'nt get any of the other input devises to work along side of both of them at once. So I quit. I'll probebly go back to my original plan of using a spare Z80, a 16K EPROM and 1K RAM chip I have.
you have to differentiate between Arduino software and hardware, the arduino software can work with a huge number of different boards, some with 10x the horsepower and memory of the AVR arduino boards
Adding one or two fixtures and basic control is easy. When it comes to dozens of fixtures and a live show environment, basic computer software just isn't good enough. I'm no expert, I do laser shows (since 92) and lighting desks are a mystery to me. Professional lighting desks can cost 30k UK and that doesn't include all the Artnet stuff needed to allow control of so many channels.
If you can share your code I can take a look at it and see if I can hack it nicely for you. You can just use a couple of buttons to do up/down counting. Dip switches take more inputs but that works too. I am a software first guy, now retired.
You know, if Q Lights supports e1.31 output to wifi, you could do your PAR control over wifi!! Yes, the Renard Plus WIFI Bridge can output DMX (so can the Wifi Pixel board with that RS485 adapter board I sent you!!) Just thinking...
Totally overthinking it LOL. There is no need for any channel switching, since there are only 6 channels on the controller and there is only one light. You just set the starting address in Arduino code, and set the light to suit. Or better, just leave them both at the default 0.
There's no rip off here! Ave makea them famous because he's popular on the interweb, but many of his "Ave-isms" - including "right quick in a hurry" - were and are common idioms in some parts of Canaderp.
Very interesting. Not every video has to have a specific purpose. One of the things I like about your channel is that you are very laid back and just share your experiences with us, mostly in real time. They are all full of valuable knowledge. I have many "aha" moments watching your videos when something I have wondered about is made clear by your your experimentation. Thank you! Keep up the good work!
I'm happy to hear that I am providing value.
You made my day!
This was a great video, I'm sure you will get it going as you would like. For us newbies, this was a good illustration of HW vs. SW problems. If it was always easy, electronics/programming would be boring. Can you imagine substituting this hobby with a walk round 18 holes of golf? Learning more keeps the brain alive, and slows down an untimely death... So Thank you!
Pushwheels for channel selection. Those things are so cool.
2:50 I love that the spec *explicitly* prohibits the 3-pin plugs, and yet here we are :)
It is actually more of a real standard in DMX than 5 pin. Go figure.
Back in the early days microphone cables were more popular than dmx cables hence the 3pin XLR. Cheap lights use 3 pin is not an accurate statement as some of the larger companies like Martin used 3 pin xlr on there RoboSCan pan and tilt fixture $1700 back in 2004.
Something to note about the 3 pin XLR is that it's all the pins that are needed. The other 2 pins on the 5 pin connector are either used as a second data network, or else(most of the time) unused.
Yes, it only uses 3 pins, but the DMX standard specification defines the official connector as 5 pin XLR.
That's done to prevent accidentally connecting audio cables instead of the correct impedance DMX cables.
Much of the time you can get away with the "wrong" cable, but it can make the difference between a working system and a non-working one, especially in a large installation.
Those Tassie LEDS on the breadboard are likely interfering! 🤔
I’ve had *lots* of issues with rotary encoders, but I did manage to find a nice library which worked alongside the TM1637 library on the “Rowing Clock” video. There were a bunch of libraries I used for that project and compatibility with each other was a governing factor.
Good luck moving forward…you know I want to shrink it down to an ATTiny! 🤪👍
another excellent video , disco on the model railway , 10k here you come ;-]
That is cool. I can see why you're having trouble. It seems to follow the same protocol of modern dsp pedal board effects setups with each song being a different scene because there are only so many foot switches. Cool video man, it's a big project. You're right though just doing a project is the best way to learn. I have a bunch of half done projects but I've decided not to take on anymore until my new workshop is finished and I take a few off the pile and finish haha
This is great and just as I do It !.....cheers.
Very nice work. I know you had issues with it but the rotary encoder paired with the screen is a brilliant idea. Great video.
The most common, even in the " expensive end " of DMX is the 3 pin. I have seen 5 pin stuff advertised, but not in use. The 5 pin system has 3 "active" pins and 2 disconnected pins or 2 universes in one cable.
When libraries collide, change pins of the lowes common library. Make the I2C ( blues screen ) use different pins, check the back in case it is a different address.
12:25 Artnet isn't over TCP-IP, it's over UDP :) (sorry to be that guy, love your content)
oled, a library is just code, copy it to your project directory and change the include,
or add all the code to your code, find the defaults, error check, change, error check ...
Do the Include, then comment out the new library. Now uncomment it one section at a time until it breaks something. It's probably just a duplication of Function/Method or Variable name (or whatever they are called in Arduino language).
Because of the long delivery times you have to buy stuff before you know you need it, the problem is you forget what you ordered years ago so you order it again 🙃
That may or may not have happened to me on occasion...
Very nice contoller you've built. I've got disillusioned with Arduino. I bought an UNO and all the extras I needed for a project, about 15 inputs, (a mix of digital and analog), and an OLED for the output. Just the OLED and the rotary encoder took up 47% of the memory. On top of that, I could'nt get any of the other input devises to work along side of both of them at once. So I quit. I'll probebly go back to my original plan of using a spare Z80, a 16K EPROM and 1K RAM chip I have.
you have to differentiate between Arduino software and hardware, the arduino software can work with a huge number of different boards, some with 10x the horsepower and memory of the AVR arduino boards
Adding one or two fixtures and basic control is easy. When it comes to dozens of fixtures and a live show environment, basic computer software just isn't good enough. I'm no expert, I do laser shows (since 92) and lighting desks are a mystery to me. Professional lighting desks can cost 30k UK and that doesn't include all the Artnet stuff needed to allow control of so many channels.
If you can share your code I can take a look at it and see if I can hack it nicely for you. You can just use a couple of buttons to do up/down counting. Dip switches take more inputs but that works too. I am a software first guy, now retired.
You know, if Q Lights supports e1.31 output to wifi, you could do your PAR control over wifi!! Yes, the Renard Plus WIFI Bridge can output DMX (so can the Wifi Pixel board with that RS485 adapter board I sent you!!) Just thinking...
I remember reading that those boards can do some DMX stuff.
Lots of possibilities.
Any ideas for a 1500W power station for under 10$? :D
I want more Universes
why not use two push buttons to switch channel up and down
Dunno. Maybe I was overthinking it...
Totally overthinking it LOL. There is no need for any channel switching, since there are only 6 channels on the controller and there is only one light. You just set the starting address in Arduino code, and set the light to suit. Or better, just leave them both at the default 0.
@@johncoops6897 There is only one light *so far*...
@@pileofstuff - LOL, yes... and your Arduino's I/O ports are all maxed out.
@@johncoops6897 I paid for all those I/Os, and dammit I'm gonna use them all!
I am like you, Hardware is fine but the coding is the hard part.
Nice Ripoff of AVE
Thank you for your valuable and insightful comment...
There's no rip off here!
Ave makea them famous because he's popular on the interweb, but many of his "Ave-isms" - including "right quick in a hurry" - were and are common idioms in some parts of Canaderp.