Leaving the ultra-orthodox - Jews seeking a new life in Germany | DW Documentary
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- Опубліковано 15 лют 2021
- Increasing numbers of Jews have been leaving ultra-orthodox communities in recent years. Surprisingly, Germany has become a popular refuge for them. Rabbi Akiva Weingarten has been helping them.
More than 1.3 million Jews live in ultra-orthodox communities worldwide. It’s a kind of parallel universe - in which only God’s laws count. Every aspect of everyday life is clearly regulated: The women are responsible for the home and for looking after the children while the men devote their lives to religious study. But some ten percent of ultra-orthodox Jews in Israel go on to quit their communities - and that figure is growing. The majority are young adults and, surprisingly, many come to Germany. Akiva Weingarten was one of them. He grew up in an ultra-orthodox Satmar community in New York State but made a radical break in 2014. He left his wife and children and started a new life in Berlin - without a credit card, a bank account or a job, or any relatives to fall back on. He is now surrounded by a free community of former ultra-orthodox Jews - who turn to the rabbi for practical and religious advice. Moshe Barnett and David Lamberger have only been flat mates in Dresden for a few months now. They are not just seeking a new life, but a new relationship with God.
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18 children. That is mind blowing. No wonder his wife didn't want to appear on camera; the filming gave her few minutes alone! At least, I hope for her sake.
There were women in England in the 18th, 19th century who had as many. Mainly because there was no pill, I suspect! And a number of children died before adulthood.
Still its better than 1 kid, divorced woman, working 9-5 competitive office job yet still receiving help from the gov
@@timurermolenko2013 get out of here..🤣
@@timurermolenko2013 and what best is 2 children with their loving parents
Both of the extremes are terrible
It was normal in Germany and Britain and everywhere before the anti baby pill
If you say "we're the most upstanding people that exist", then you're probably extreme.
Exactly! And did you see how many times he kept repeating that? 😂 As if he had to justify it to someone (his God probably).
as a Jew, I just do what is good, right, and human. I know I'm no better than anyone else.
@@sarahnicole45 of course you know you're not better ,but you think you are. When you dead from alcohol and drugs at the bar then you don’t mention God. I see you regularly here in Germany only when we ask you why you drink what is not forbidden, your excuse is like you are liberal. You are funny
Thats what they call the "Ubermenschgevul"...best way to translate to Megalomania... someone that thinks heś the most worthy, above all others, the chosen one. German ofcourse and so strangly adopted by the Ulta Orthodox.
@@okomoje8823 Feel Sad for your narrow view of the world! What A joke you are
how can someone so devoted to God say that there's nothing to see in the world, His own creation?? that makes no sense
Wise words! ❤️
By «the World», he is not talking about the planet itself, or nature, or humans, etc. This is a religious term. It means: the materialistic, superficial, self-centered, godless, hedonistic prominent culture of our times.
@@luzclara3855 ok but also they aren’t going to the Grand Canyon much
Religious fanaticism does.not make sense.
Religious fanatics, regardless of wich religion, is one of the worlds big problems.
He can’t afford glasses, therefore he thinks nobody can see… 👓
I'm not Jewish nor am I the religious type but I like what Rabbi Weingartner is trying to do. It's good to know that there are people out there who are trying to walk the middle path without giving up on their spiritual lives. I don't think it matters how godly you are, but it matters more how much of god you see in others and your self, and how you treat that god. With kindness and respect? Or with hate and cruelty?
Definitely agree
You are right on...💪👍
Yes, in theory.... he went to live in Germany with a growing anti-Semitic population that are “refugees” from the Middle East. It could mean his demise, not for living a compromise, but rather to Islam it won’t matter how Jewish he is or not. Quite self-serving as his children needed their father now, rather than when they have grown up in his absence to then choose. I wish him well and much luck.
I agree
The clothing that they wear goes back to Poland I. The 1700s.
Eighteen kids and no job.
He’s a full-time RABBI! What do you call pastors in America?? Do they have jobs??
Sorry! Did I hear right?
Is he a RABBI or a RABBIT????
@@vaquera9368 It seems almost all are RABBI(T)S down there. :))) Those who are not say they study the Torah. Just like I would say at 30 years that I cannot provide for my family because I am still a student, I study the history of religions. I am meant for greater things, I dedicate my life to Buddha or Allah or some hindu god. In the end, probably, there are those who bake bread or do other necessary jobs in the community.
uhhh who's he preaching too? Also my brother is a minister (unpaid) and works a second paying job in a meat packing plant. Dude has the same job a magic 8 ball has
@@vaquera9368
Pastors, ministers, priests and rabbis are paid by their congregations from contributions that are given willingly. This guy is taking money directly from the taxpayers.
His family lives for donations, he has 18 children... The fact that he believes people without religion live “like animals... without purpose”. Is this normal?
18 children? he's doing more than eating and studying.
it's normal for this guy - who's an extremist. he's a minor celebrity here in Israel - because he allows cameras into his house and speaks very bluntly (even for an Israeli, which is saying something).
but having said that, yes there is a form of elitism in Judaism even if usually quite subtle and nuanced. i think it's not unique but because Judaism unlike Christianity and Islam is not only a religion but also an ethnicity - it can at times become an ugly form or racism.
@@AvnerSenderowicz Yeah. F**k like a rabbit and raise the 18 offsprings with money from the animals. Good logic right there. Or more like hipocrisy. Just don't act all surprised when their elitism, superiority, extremism, egoism and the differences between them and "the animals" will be so big that they will not find any civilised way to communicate and blood will be spilled again. İn a conflict, both parties are at fault to some extent.
Birth control is evil, Thy shall be punished for deciding who gets to born or not !
He maby does speak a bit harshly for film that is not dedicated to jewish people but unfortunately, although harsh, it's the truth. In order to try and understand what he's saying try answering a simple question "what's the purpose of life if not to serve Gd?"
By the way, I'm not jewish myself...
Did that ultra orthodox man even read the same Torah as me? Superstition is strictly forbidden. They're meant to be working to the best of their ability, giving to charity and donating, no matter how little they can afford, not living off charity and donations if they don't truly need to. I'm a modern orthodox Jew but we have the exact same book. I don't understand.
people being people
If you're Jewish you should know what Hasidim are. No, to them the wonders their rabbis do are gifts from G-d.
I am not Jewish, I'm Catholic but I know the Torah is the first 5 books of the Hebrew Bible. I always thought the same that superstition comes under divination etc. And as they are looking to outer things for help which are not of God it is considered wrong.
Thank you iosoi, I was ready to stop watching at 7 minutes in. Your statement has encouraged me to keep watching.
@@ilovedogs938 Yep, spot on. I also can't get over the very unnecessary risk of physical danger, pouring hot lead into a pot over a person's head. Doesn't matter how careful he is. Any kind of person, religious or not, would be worried about that. But the fact that converts with tattoos are encouraged not to have their tattoos removed, because the treatment can put the person's skin at risk of damage or infection... So this is just crazy.
i am fascinated with the hasids. my sister went to high school in israel one semester many years ago and that was all she wrote. she became hasidic had 5 kids got divorced and converted back to normal. my father had to support her and her kids for many years because all her husband wanted to do was pray all day. i hope to track down this guy in dresden and do what ever i can to help support those who want to leave the hasidic community.
Ok
And there's the anti semite.
Your poor sister! This is a huge problem with young people. They often can't clearly see until it is too late. Thankful your father helped her.
The patriarchs worked. Maimonides worked. We are commanded to work 6 days a week. It is forbidden to add to or take away from the commandments.
@@mattmiller2842 truth dear even G-d would support her what she said G-d is love he leaves us to decide to our own good not to sabotage our happiness.
Stink your ant semitic nonsense to yourself!
Jewish people leaving Israel for Germany because Israel is somehow oppressive to them only makes me think how rich human history can be.
You're judging people based on what, exactly? Have you been in their shoes?
@@freepalestinefromhamas8203
I can only imagine how repressive the Israeli are to Palestinians when even Jews are running away from Israel.
@@anirbandas9852 I thought this too! Like Isreal boasts of a great state but some of their people are walking out. The youth do call out bullshit when they see it
@@anirbandas9852 They're not running away from "Israeli" oppression you clown, they are running away from their COMMUNITY's oppression,
that's like saying that because there's a psycho cult leader who enslaved a bunch of people in the U.S. - the U.S government is somehow "complicit" in that....
@@aminasuleiman6139 People are also coming in.
It's natural for people to make life choices that might lead them to a different location on the planet.
Having 18 children and no means of supporting them is highly irresponsible. Shunning the world, yet using them to finance your family while one prays 24/7 shows the blatant contradictions of religion. Regardless if it is Islam, Christianity, or Judaism, religious fundamentalism is toxic and destructive for those who follow irrationality. I congratulate these individuals for their courage.
@Hase C cos theyre both abrahamic religions
Live and let live, believe and let believe, what an interesting concept.
All Christian clergy live by getting donations from believers.
Lol don’t really matter. While people like you have like 2 kids per family they have 18. Soon your opinion won’t matter cos you’ll be outnumbered
@@jean6872actually... some don't take a salary from their congratulation...they have other paying jobs...
The most upstanding people that exist - on welfare provided by the rest of us animals.
Well, that's your just deserts for establishing an apartheid state in the Near and Middle East.
You would not say that if it was Christians instead of Jews.
I hear you. 🤔
@@Otaku155 Your insinuation of anti-Semitism/Judeophobia is unconvincing.
@@Otaku155 I most certainly would if that Christian expected to live on welfare because he felt entitled, and considered those paying for his lazy ass and his family "animals"
He looks down at us while telling that we look down on them. Projection at it's "best".
Not really projection. That extreme "ultra orthodox"celebrity Yoelish Krauss is right about that! Look for example at what commenters think about his crazy led pot thing. (By the way I know lots of "ultra orthodox" but not any that do that!)
They have heat,
This is insanity! How do you take care of 18 children on donations. Why have so may children for someone else to feed?
@Derpster You are A) generalizing and B) incorrect.
@@Lagolop Below are some statements from Rabbi Ovadia Yosef:
1. “The six million Holocaust victims were reincarnations of the souls of sinners, people who transgressed and did all sorts of things which should not be done. They had been reincarnated in order to atone.”
2. “There was a tsunami and there are terrible natural disasters, because there isn’t enough Torah study… Black people reside there [New Orleans]. Blacks will study the Torah? [God said] let’s bring a tsunami and drown them.”
“Hundreds of thousands remained homeless. Tens of thousands have been killed. All of this because they have no God.”
“Bush was behind Gush Katif [the Gaza settlement bloc]. He encouraged Sharon to expel Gush Katif… We had 15,000 people expelled here, and there 150,000. It was God’s retribution… God does not short-change anyone.”
3. “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world - only to serve the People of Israel.”
“In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person - they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.
“This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew.”
“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat… That is why gentiles were created.”
4. “How can you make peace with a snake?”
“Those evildoers, the Arabs - it says in the Gemara [Talmud] that God is sorry he ever created those sons of Ishmael.”
5. “They’re stupid. Their religion is as ugly as they are.” - referring to Muslims
From "5 of Ovadia Yosef’s most controversial quotations" that published in Times of Israel, 9 October 2013
No contraception!
@@keekl6870 So what. What's you point... blood libel ...LOL.
PS Am Israel Chai.
PPS BTW, The Times is a leftist anti Israel rag.
@@zoe9632 You sound surprised. Do you think that religious Jews are the only people that do not practice birth control. If you do, you are more than just a fool.
It seems Hasidic descendants from Holocaust survivors have such a trauma (understandable) they haven’t worked through it in a healthy way but completely focused, nay obsessed on the fact that they lost so many people in the holocaust and making up for that by having this unsustainable amount of children instead of having a few kids but being able to give them a better life with more amenities but esp more attention and love as it is impossible to give equal love to all these kids while living in basically chosen poverty (not working). Obviously that society is also extremely misogynistic relying on the women to work and raise all these children at the same time while not receiving equal respect and rights. I just feel bad for the children being born into this as I do with any cult children.
This chasidic way of life developed in the late 19. Century.
Maybe first try to find some sources about this stuff before you pull some theses about it out of nowhere...
Yes, it was born on the IX Century but grew a lot right after the horrific events that the Jewish community had to endure before and during WWII. Usually things that come from trauma are not very healthy and tend to be extreme.
Lol this comment clearly made by someone who has no idea
@e Why do the Muslims have 10 children then? To compensate for their trauma? What about Catholics?
In the Bible scripture shared by all Abrahamic religions there is a commandment by God to "be fruitful and multiply and bring forth abundantly in the earth". For religious people the greatest gift of life is to beget life.
@@MrBezagreen there's a healthy limit. 4-5 is already a lot of work.
A beautiful documentary. The Rabbi is doing important and ground breaking work. It’s wonderful that the young people leaving their old lives can have a support network lead by the Rabbi, a truly wonderful person.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. 🙂
How can you possibly support any of these people after what they did to Europe, now the Middle East and effectively the world ???
Indeed a beautiful documentary Julia . But where do all these priests , pastors and rabbies live of ? Brainwashing people . The more they are brainwashed , the more stable their salaries
Julia Park, I think that your first two statements are 1000% true about the rabbi that was speaking at min 06:00. Sorting soybeans is more of a groundbreaking work than literally having ppl jump the fence to random european synagogues...thats not a good practice although it was funny lol
Julia Park.What kind of a Rabbi leaves his own people then makes a group to help other deserters? Sounds confused.Why doesn't he just revoke his Rabbi status?
"We're the most upstanding people that exist." What arrogance.
And UTTER bullshit. 💩
According to who? Humans can be so stupid. 💯
All nations are arrogant.
That's most abrahmic religions for u
I've heard christians say it too, and believe me, they weren't.
After all that happened to Jews in Germany by the Nazis...for the Jews to find Germany as a favored place once again tells me how far the two peoples has reconciled. I think this is a remarkable story of understanding and forgiveness...one that humanity can learn a lot.
@abraham m21,
yes, but don‘t underestimate the
amount of new nazis in germany, or more general, the steadily growing antisemitism…horribly enough it‘s all back ( or rather, it might never really have been
gone at all )
Stockholm syndrome, I would rather say
@@spectatrix5003 And a big number of Muslims who hate Jews.
That kind of makes it seem like the Jews of Germany werent German. They were.
It’s Because they are forced to by law lol
"I can tell you now, there is nothing to see" = the words of someone who has never seen anything
you've got 18 kids and you call us animals? okay
Sorry. How does that work? The more children you beget, the less human you are. Are you serious? 😂
@@theon9575 I think he's just calling the Rabbi a judgmental hypocritical pillock...I quite agree.
@Nashtark 111 I see.
I think it would also help if the women were given normal human rights, equal to men, including dignity & decisions over their own bodies, and the right to say no. As in normal civilised relations between humans.
Without her consent, the woman is being raped. No woman WANTS to bear 18+ babies! And isn't rape a crime?
@@vienogola1421 i can see that, but the rabbi and his critic are both hypocrites in their common view of women as breeders, in my view. Pls see my comment to him..
@@theon9575 ah... Theo I get you now..
"You live like an animal" he said while scratching his armpit. We are all animals.
And living off donations.
No we're not animals
A living organism that feeds on organic matter, typically having specialized sense organs and nervous system and able to respond rapidly to stimuli.
Pamela Franklin yes we are, we are social animals
Surrounded by his 18 kids 🤣🤣
😲18 children how many people did a double take.😁
I thought I didn't hear that correctly
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Not me. My grandma was one of 14. Other was one of eight :)
«Jews seeking a new life in Germany»
I'll take «headlines I'd never thought I'd read» for 200$, Alex.
FOR REAL FOR REAL
But then again I'm a arab and I live in the US and I love it.
So hey to each his own
Oddly enough, that's the plot of the Netflix show Unorthodox.
Where does that Alex line come from?
@@charlielucai-woodsboro2167 Jeopardy, a long running US gameshow whose host, Alex Trebek sadly passed away not too long ago.
Totally agree.
I love how Avi climbed over the gate as the other side was opened...so happy and full of energy and life ☺️
yeah-that was weird
I'm glad to see people coming out of these restrictive situations and being able to build a happy and supportive community for one another. what a great rabbi!
What great, supportive community in America?
we have ultra orthodox communities in all religions... it is a "bug" shared among all religions but they call it a "feature".
It is all cultism.
Yes, all theistic religions have/are a shared bug.
That's cause all religions are cults with large enough following.
SYED IMRAN ALI Am an ultra orthodox Christian but an not get any welfare for my believes
Who wants to eat he must work said Saint Paul for Christians
There is a creepy underlying feeling to this
yes, it doesn't look particularly healthy here
I agree, any type of control, elimination of thoughts and opinions is a recipe for disaster!! Cult-tish 😬
Really rubs me the wrong way
It occurred to me that the Dresden rabbi is setting up his own cult, or cult-lite. He has found a niche to exploit. You don't need to leave Israel to live a more liberal Jewish life or to leave Judaism altogether.
@@pinkpearl1967 was thinking the same thing when he was at the table in his special attire in contrast to the others. Seems as though he found a market to exploit.
I'm a secular jew that's a descendant of holocaust survivors who were communists, so my relationship with judaism (or lack there of) is still something i am quite confused about. I would love to sit down with Rabbi Weingarten and have a chat because he seems like the type that understands many ways in which we can be jewish. I really love what he does :)
You would probably get better explanations at Chabad.
I think maybe he's the Last person you should be speaking to.He will confuse you even more as his life in real time is a complete mess.Go to Chabad wherever you are.They will accept you no difference how you live or what choices you make or what you want to talk about and then let you decide for yourself.This guys on the rebound and running a cult of angry people who've fallen foul of Jewish law,not something you want to get mixed into.Good Luck.
Please get his email address and write to him or Facebook him? Hope you get a chance to talk to him... wish you the best!
The most upstanding people makes sure their kids have there own bed.
*their
Thank you DW! You never let me down. This knowledge is priceless, adds to ones wisdom as well.
Precisely
DW ... really its pretty in fact totally biased too . So much so that i un-subscribed
Let's see how long the comment section stays enabled.
As long Nazis don't make weird comments, I'm sure it will stay enabled
@@baller3035 its Orthodox jews who usually make hateful comments on these videos
@@shadebinder9969 no it's not.
@@baller3035 yeah they are. Orthodoxy does not like people leaving it to put it mildly and it's very judgemental in many communities. Look down you'll find comments talking about how he's not a real rabbi or he's "confused" or doesn't understand what Judaism is etc. I hardly think those are coming from conservative or Reform jews and they're definitely not neonazis gatekeeping. Now who does that leave?
Ah yes Orthodox jews.
@@baller3035 it isn't even unique to ex Orthos, you get similar comments for "feminist Orthodox" jews and gay Orthodox jews.
This is fascinating. I have little religion in my life.
I respect all religions.
I wish you well in life. Helping others who are having problems sorting out their lives makes you a special person in my eyes
Rebecca x
It's beautiful that people are working towards building a community. That's the most important thing we need as humans.
Watching from Nova Scotia Canada 🇨🇦. Love all your docs...very educational. Thank you.
Hello fellow east-coaster! I'm watching from Newfoundland :)
18 children and live on donations?Amazing
As a Catholic, I completely agree with what this man is trying to create. Let people live and believe, let’s connect as humans.
but as a Catholic you too follow a cult like religious institution.
@@bobmatley6138 no more extreme then american protestants
@@bobmatley6138 its called organized religion Catholic and jewish are. They keep to themselves and marry within themselves. I am christian, baptist to be exact. We follow the 10 commandments and just try to live a descent life, be kind and respectful to our fellow man, have compassion and try not to be judgemental. We try to leave that to god but as humans are not perfect we are not always successful. We can have our opinions and leave judgement to god. We marry who we like or not marry at all. Some have children some prefer not to. We have church service on wed and sundays and god will not struck us dead if we dont make it. In my opinion the laws or rules that the Catholic and jewish religion have are not gods law but mans law made up of what they twisted the scriptures to be what they think it should mean. I call in question most of it.i would love to sit with them and ask them to prove where in the scriptures they arrived at such beliefs.😉
@@sewforlife5728 sooo very glad that finally someone agrees with a lot of us humans not following organized religion of any kind, or cults ...
People need to finally understand “ cult leaders “ have made certain rules, using guilt and the fear of God on how others meant to live, what or who to believe to and do it for their own profit and gain ??
We have seen it lots of times in the past and still see it today ...around the world...
people simply need to understand and free themselves of guilt for “not following “ Gods rules...these are only other people’s rules...NOT God’s..
Amazingly we get an individual dressed like Abraham, telling us that people not following “gods rules” are like animals ??
That’s an insult to any animal !!!
Animals have a purpose !!! And are gifts to us by the universe to assist us, feed us and serve us with anything we need them to ...
Fact is, humans, have a NEED to believe on a greater power..
Nothing wrong with that but ...
when it comes to believing and following a mere person/s rules
then they should have MANY questions !!!
The old notion of “ believe and don’t question” has long gone together with the ions ..
We live in a very informative era and simply there’s NO excuse for no one falling on anyone’s cunning religious traps ...
One has to believe on what their heart and mind are telling them, with gratitude, appreciation, compassion, kindness...
With these feelings and helping other humans we can have the best “ religion” one can follow !!!
Without having to bow down to human made terms and conditions
that are presented to all, to “follow” and “serve” the god “ they” wants us to serve ...for their gain ...
Gain IS power and humans, capable institutions and individuals have use it, in millennia to only serve themselves...
One has only to look at history and current events to understand it ...
Proud of anyone that has stood up and left these “ cults” in order to live and exist FREELY !!!
Great examples for others !!!
@@ryanhuntrajput474 .. bottom line ...
they are ALL the same !!!
With only one purpose ...
POWER and GAIN !!!
And unfortunately people follow them and can destroy each other “ on the name of some twisted humans beliefs “
It’s so very SAD ...
The way the narrator said Rosh Hashanah almost made go cross-eyed.
Right!!?? I thought I was the only one. LOL
On a lighter note, their apartment finding skills are quite good. It's such a nightmare especially for foreigners in big German cities
They said they get help from a charity or program or something for the disadvantaged. Is there low income/disatvataged housing in Germany?
@@shadebinder9969 There is but I'm not sure if it's so easy to get through those schemes. As far as I have heard there is usually a long waiting line for those.
Yeah man, a friend of mine has been searching for a long time for an Apartment in Hamburg, but he hasn’t found one the firm’s aren’t able to help him find one
Well it's Dresden and while it's a "big" city and has a lot to go for it, it's still east Germany and the housing market isn't as crazy as in Munich or Cologne. Also, they're jewish and after WWII Germany accepted it's obligation to facilitate jewish life in Germany. Most of us do consider it a debt to be payed.
Many Ashkenazi Jews came from Europe, their ancestors were from countries like from Germany, and for these people, it’s like returning home.
I'm an orthodox Jewish woman and Believe me I don't have an urge to run away and become non religious. Our holy life is so full of happiness, mission, real connection with people-why in the wild world would I flee as you call it?
There is a difference between orthodox and ultra-orthodox communities
You are clearly not in the same type of community, or you wouldn't be on the internet.
Hi
So happy that my country can become a safe place for jews to live. This is, maybe, the biggest achievement for us germans, since the founding of our country!
He can’t be serving god every day & every hour!!!!! He’s managed 18 children between god!!!!!
In his believe this is part of the serving
Poor woman.
@@barbaraseymour3437 She probably wants them. They're both convinced that it's part of what they're here for.
the god must be a demanding god 😁
I am Christian and we believe that coming together as one when you are married is worshiping God.
Sally I am in Melbourne also watching.
This is very informative.
Stay healthy and happy.
Judaism has a long history in Germany, and was one of the first places Jews integrated and reformed their religious practices. Anybody who has heard Bruch's Kol Nidrei would realize the significant artistic and cultural value that Jews have made in Germany.
A new beginning...how wonderful. God Bless you all and keep you well.
@@bonniebluebell5940 no...thats exactly it...its NOT a new beginning...How do you think there where so many jews in Germany in ww2? but somehow NONE in France or the Uk in Italy and Spain? ...that nobody in the US or any other of these countries ever wonders how it is that the jews were so concentrated in Germany? It boggles my mind. Its like it makes sense in your minds that there's a border and all people of that faith were on ONE SIDE?
On the surface, it seems Germany would be a very strange choice for these Jews to build a community. So I like your point that Judaism has a long history in Germany. Then it makes more sense.
@@buster9106 Shapiro literary means "from the city of Speyer". The Jewish cemetery in Speyer, starting in roman times, is a UNESCO world heritage side. During the first Crusade, a Pogrom, by out of control knights, was stopped when the bishop of Speyer came out with a sword to defend the Jews. German and Jewish people lived pretty well together for millennia, except for the few dark years in the last century. Germany was the country with the highest rate of intermarriage just before the Nazis came to power. I did a DNA test two years ago and found out that I am related to the head rabbi of Humboldt University, Berlin from 1920. My grandmothers father was 1/4 Jewish, a Tietz from the famous Prussian rabbi family Tietz.
life was cool before christian and islam arrived after that world become hate place for human hope one day these two religion vanish soon.
18 children..
"Their daily life is dominated by prayers....and changing diapers
Geez, give that woman a break
Lmao
Are these 18 kids from one wife / woman ?
Segregation and separation creats breeding ground for bad history repeating.
It's hatred that leads to bad history repeating itself. Dont victim blame
Sad reality
Do you mean apartheid in Israel ?
Forced assimiliation and integration creates a breeding ground for bad history repeating.
History repeats itself because most people don't know factual history and the little history they do base their opinions and actions on are false narratives they've heard from teachers who don't actually know history either or a one sided story of accounts of what led to certain events by the victors.
Watching from Porto Portugal! I really like watching the documentaries you make. Obrigada!!
Hi from Ireland. Hope things are well in Portugal. Need to get there as soon as pandemic is over. Or lanzarote.
@@EMMYK1916 THINGS are slowing getting better. But as all countries we have a long road ahead... How are THINGS in Ireland? Take care. Stay safe!
I drink Kosher Port.
Beautiful to see them outside of that cult. Living free normal life and you can still feel close to god
How is it a cult?
@@nbb2153 It is a cult which brainwash its people inside unfortunately. This has nothing to do with the religion itself.
@@KristynaStefanova This is a great way of framing this because you're right it's really nothing to do with the religion. Thinking of it this way really helped me understand what exactly is going on in those communities.
Welcome to Germany! Good to have you here - would love to see your community growing ❤
@Yoav Daniel not true. germany has a steadily growing migrant population and is probably more open than a lot of other countries
The real fun begins when they start buying up all the German Businesses with loans from Israeli and the U.S Banks
@@zochbuppet448 the Chinese are faster
I would also love that, but we know there is a constant declining tendency of jewish communities in Germany!!-for a good reason!
Why ?
Ah! Everyone else but you are "degenerate." If anyone looks down at you, dude, it's because you think you're better than everyone else and expect support from the people you insult.
that part of his judaism lives on...its called pride aand it is a sin to GOD, but you dont hafta believe in god at all so its all good??
Waa look. I now understand why Jesus had a problem with these people. Herh.
@@giftyakowuah2628 and Hitler 😅😂
So God doesn't expect you to earn your own keep, but instead live off others? Religious Extremism is evil.
"Invent my own God" is such a statement that really hit me since he still calls himself a Rabbi. I can imagine that living such a strict life where everyone around you has opinions about your business and life would be difficult. They lived like it was a cult because they weren't allowed to interact with the outside world. I hope they find happiness in their new lives.
He may still be religious but he seems quite intellectual, able to think, despite it.
8:04 "To all Women and Girls, You shall not pass into our neighbourhood in Inmodest Clothes!" You see that poster? Phew,,, that makes this whole neighbourhood sound very uninviting
I did, yes. I think it was a warning for tourists and those who don't live in that neighborhood.
Also, in Rome do as Romans do. I always respect local rules when I travel, and i think it should be that way.
@@namelastname5418 it is a warning to girls and women
@@namelastname5418 all or nothing cognitive error. Did you shave your head? Should women be forced to to walk through a public neighbourhood just because some religious people live there. There are limits
*Extremism of any religion brings unhappiness to the community*
@mohamad mohamad
بیشرم دروغگو! از ایران برو اما اینقدر وقیحانه دروغ نگو بیسواد غربگدای بیهویت!
This is profound. Thank goodness for people like Rabbi Weingarten 💚
No no no priest Weigarten, that is not Judaism anymore.
Leaving his wife and children to follow his own path?
"ultra" means beyond normal insanity.
Beyond dumb
“We’re the most upstanding people that exist” yet they don’t work and live on handouts…..
got to love a rabbi who always has a smoke dangling
Avi has ditched the payot and tzitzit and he’s feelin like a WILD MAN.
I realized throughout my course, spiritualism is not saying the same thing to God over and over again, it's all about speaking the asolute truth against injustice oppression against humanity as like Moses and Aaron did with Pharoah and reached the next level.
@O Car If Moses and Aaron were mass murders to you capitalists and imperialists then nothing I can do for you, you have no salvation from God Almighty Amen.
The rabbi is emotionally intelligent. What he does is so important for people who leave their ultra orthodox communities. I’ve seen people commuting subside because there was no one to help them settle and find a new life!
@6:00 ... "the meaning of life consist in serving god..." A teacher once told me , if God is God (omnipotent , omniscient , omnipresent) , then he doesn't need us for anything :)
Because we need Him. Read about Jesus in the KJV Bible, you’ll understand a bit more.
Deut 28;1 And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all His commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all the nations of the earth. 2 And all these blessings shall come upon thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God....15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all His commandments and His statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee...
I think morale values and lessons for conserving earth are more than enough to live a normal human life
@@pikachuthunderbolt3919 those who represent Him must be like Him
Right like idk it just seems like if God is the way people claim then it would create life for us to just enjoy lol like... its not that deep. People need to enjoy the time they are here and do as little harm possible.
Beautiful documentary 👌🏻thank you for bringing this to us .
I'm muslums and this is really touching for me. I hope he finds peace in his heart and his life so he may live happily. I think being abandoned by loved ones is worse than war!
Become jewish
@@sleeexs stop forcing ur religion on ppl, respect others beliefs
@@Fareeda212 What's your religion?
@@Fareeda212 Are you an abdool also?
@@Fareeda212 Also or what
Them guys learning German is the cutest thing xD
Jews speak Yiddish which is like 90% identical with German. I’m German and learned Yiddish in 2 hours. It’s the same with Jews they can learn German in a day.
@@bendover4668 but 90% are none Yiddish speaker. The young generation isn’t into this anymore as Hebrew language is the official common speech!
Der Kaffee ist fast kalt!
It doesn't make any sense to go to Germany! Why?
The irony of Jews ESCAPING to Germany is very very funny.
Yes, that's funny. They read the bible but not history, perhaps.
yes. Now we are waiting for emerging new uncle Ady and "warm" reception for escapers.
Why muslims hate living in Muslim countries and Jews not living inIsrael
Germany is so f...
WELL UNDERSTOOD N OBSERVED
SOON BREAD SOLD AT 100 MARKS
@@AC-ny1di These Jews are moving to Germany, because 1. it is easy for them to switch from Yiddish to German (so, they essentially can speak the country's language, find a job, integrate, etc.), and 2. they are a short flight away from Israel, so if things go south, they can always fly back.
Beautiful documentary! On a side note, can we appreciate the fact that damn near all of the people in this documentary speak like 5 languages? I can barely speak English (my native language) lol
Also noticed that
18 children in a small apartment. If everyone is serving God 24 hours, where will the tax money that is used to subsidize your “religious” studies come from?
From the working animals he looks down on.
Ironic, isn’t it?
His kind of sect do not take a dime from donations
"Find a god that I could live with."
Cannot agree more.
... or maybe that God found you?
18 children? Obviously he has purpose!
He is making children constantly, everywhere and always. Maybe the neighbors helped him too.
I am not Jewish. I am Catholic and Afro-Brazilian. I really really like this guy. I am astonished by his bravery. May he continue to shine God's light in the best way possible in his community especially in the lonely world of people many found themselves in.
Bravo!
With respect, this rabbi leaves what he calls a “cult”... and proceeds to create his own cult....
Where he is the leader.
@@toyajackson556 and where he can have a fresh pretty (non jewish) jeans- wearing wife not the one who spent 20 years having his kids...
@@shoshana-xs4cm
20 years? I am afraid you misheard.
@@shoshana-xs4cm does his girlfriend isn't Jewish?
@@shoshana-xs4cm pretty just the Israeli girl the more beautiful girl in the world inside and outside .no you for Shure .so get a life you are antisimitism.we going to investigated who you are.dont forget Google and Teck belong to Jewish you must be aglly inside out the way you talked.
the guy who said that "we are the most upstanding people that exist" has isolated himself within his community to such an extreme that he cannot even see outside of himself. "Go out into the world and see, but I am telling you, there is nothing to see." What an insult to the God that gave you the bounty and beauty of the earth and all it has to offer. Classic old guy stuff lol
I've lived in every kind of orthodox Jewish community and never heard of leadmelting to ward off spirits. It's quite uncharacteristic. There isn't such a high degree of superstition in normative Orthodox Jewish Life.
I'm an orthodox jew, and never heard of it also.
I feel genuinely pity for his 18 children, I can't imagine living like that everyday, I bet they can't wait to get away.
They don’t know there is anything else
I bet they are more happy than you!
I bet they are more happy than you!
I bet they are more happy than your secular group
I love how he bashes the modern world yet lives of welfare payments, which are one of the perks of the modern world. No man, who spends his days talking to an imaginary figure while at the same time relying on handouts to feed his family can call himself upstanding.
That's so disturbing. Even the small boys look frightening...
Yeah, it's one of the most concerning things about their 'religion'.
Respect other people pls
Rania. Please respect that the hasids with 18 children are living on taxpayers money. You know, the ones who WORK for a living by the sweat of THEIR brow
Sorry to hear that you are frightened of children. I generally cover up my children's horns and pointy tails so hopefully you won't be scared of them.
@@happydillpickle Thanks, that's so kind of you 🙏🏽
Man, religion gives people excuses to do the dumbest stuff.
Not just religion most ideologies with a promising paradise is like that
Look communism, anticommunism, even social Justice
@@kriptonita8030 True, but Religion has historically been the heavyweight champ.
@@googleuser3163 yeah
But also the goodest stuff. Lots of unbiased charity has arisen from some religions. And I love listening to the chants sung by monks.
@@barbaraseymour3437 not necessarily best
But sure all of good things has come from religion
When speaking of the "complicated relationship [with Germany]," Rabbi Weingarten stated, "This should be a wake up call to Germany to get their house in order." He said, _"their_ house." To increase the possibility of success for his project, he might want to consider shifting his thinking to _"our house."_ Getting *_our_* house in order.
No. Antisemitism as racism is the problem of the perpetrators to solve among themselves. So I, as a white German, can say it is OUR problem we need to get in order. Keep our people in check and make sure that antisemitism or racism can never take hold the same again and ravage the country and people as it did once.
@@melz6625 Rabbi Weingarten isn't a visitor in Germany; he's now a citizen. It's not a "their" problem anymore. It should be an "our" problem as it concerns _his_ country now, too. I don't see how him continuing to view German citizens as "the other" will help the situation progress. At least not at the pace he, & I'm sure many others, want it to.
Fascinating topic. I hope viewers realize this is more than about Jews. This is about any people who are torn between a) a safe but often stifling received community, and an open, free, but scary and often indifferent social environment. And also between b) a source of values that is preset, non-negotiable and clearly defined, and another that can seem terrifyingly undefined, variable, or even optional. What is interesting about the German group is that they've more or less jettisoned a preset, strictly defined notion of 'God'; and they're actually managing to cobble along without it. But they're unable to manage without a community - a sense of belonging and acceptance, and a family atmosphere.
This. is so sad , 18 children without proper education , with a father with a negative vision of the planet , one that will destroy any dreams they could have . A father that will be denied of a family if they don't accept to live the same way as their father did.
Completely agree - very disturbing and disappointing situation
What do you prefer? They have LIFE, contrary to the ex-future children of abortists
@@diogoveiga1093 there's such thing as birth control you know
You don't know the stuff. They usually have access to the education and they have very positive vision of life. Judaism is very humanistic on its own way.
@@diogoveiga1093
What’s the matter with family planning? Proper birth control?
It's good to have impartial reporting, but choosing:
- Mr. 18 kids willingly planned to be fed on public donations
and
- Mr. Abandon family obligations and start new relationship elsewhere with hot redhead
Didn't do the perception of these groups much good
Let me ask you this then:
-they said at the beginning of the docu that only the guy with 18 children was willing to let them in to film, so who else could they film?
-the guy who left the community was already old enough in his old community to start pumping out children, so when he leaves but his wife doesn't want to, do you think the officials would let the children go with him or only allow them to stay with the mother?
Personally I think those children are still lucky because they have a glimpse, and so a chance of a free life.
And it is also true that most of the ultra-orthodox live off of donations and government money, but that means they also have lots of children
Lol 😂😂😂😂😂
Yes, he abandoned his wife and kids and poses as a hero. To me that alone shows he is without integrity. People can fulfill their dreams without stepping on others aka leaving his kids.
Well we see who you are very clearly from your comment. Cant see yourself though, can you.
Great short doc.... very interesting.
I wholeheartedly and sincerely wish the people featured in this documentary and anyone else in a similar situation, the best of luck and the best that life can bring.
Watching from northern Poland. Super-interesting!
Raczej nie do pomyslenia
We need to learn open minded and moderation in all aspect to avoid fall into extremism.. but human are always interested to the extreme even if it could hurt another human or mother nature..
Imagine, this stricht community live in vienna, calling everybody outside theirs wall an animal
Im not jew. But I like this style of life No fundamentalism Congratulations for this comunity
We do not need some unknown person or thing to enjoy life. Look around, life is beautiful ( most humans, plants, animals, nature, etc).
Who made it beautiful though?
@@SilentEmpires Ooh let me think, evolution or an imaginary friend 🤔
@@SilentEmpires Nobody did.
@@SilentEmpires the eye of the beholder did.
@@mariecrowe8843
If it was evolution then there must be An Evolver who gave everything its form and purpose...oooo 🤓
I live in Israel but I am not religious. I have friend from New York who moved here because he also wanted to leave this kind of life behind him. He went through hell at the beginning but I think these guys are basically running away from their past. I saw here that someone wrote about cost of living in Germany. For these people it is really not the priority. You just want to learn something new, something different, you want to start living and it is sometimes starts far from your home wherever it is.
what an amazing video! I wish all these young people the best of luck in their new life! They are not creating a new life in Germany, they are reviving an old one. I wish we can all live in a world where the most extreme people of a given faith are not the loudest ones.
This guy's deserves a big respect for the courageous transformation and their search for a moderate way of life and personal enlightenment. I hope that your decision and courage wull enspire many more in the future regardles the religion or nationality.
I love DW documentaries :) I know a lot about the world and how it “really” runs.... I pray for the people who left ultra orthodox Jewish life that they may continue to seek the Lord with their whole heart....reading the Bible / Torah
Dw is twisted as fuck sorry .I used to also believe Dw was neutral. Totally not so
19:41. THIS exact same thing happened to me. By the age of 16 I was a youth/worship leader in a Christian church, had some discipleship training under my belt and was steadily religious until around 20, then it was like the flip of a switch. I don't mean to offend anyone when I say this but it seems like I eventually grew intelligent enough and as I matured out of adolescence, I gained the ability to rationalize things without emotions getting in the way. It wasnt as if my spirituality was fading but all those 'feel good' hormones that I come to associate with religion no longer got in the way of me being able to rationalize things clearly.
There were many great things that came from my past and I would want to change that part of my life, if I could. I remember one one time me and my mentor went downtown to feed and pray with as many homeless people as our minimum wage jobs allowed us to and this one specific homeless man broke down crying , as we prayed for him. He then told me that someone had spit on him earlier in the day and not on purpose but because he might as well had been a piece of trash. He was invisible and when I put my arm around to him pray, he remembered for the first time in a long time what love felt like.
Ill never forget that
Now Im not saying you can't properly love if you aren't religious but that specific moment will always stick with me, for the reason I was there in the first place was because a religion encouraged me to love others. Specifically those who need it and someone really needed it, as so many do right this very second. At the end of the day I don't know how I feel about religion. Its destructive ass hell but there are parts of it that do so much good, in a time where good is needed more than ever. However, with the way the average 'Christian' acts, or how Jews act superior to others, ect....the bad outweighs the good in the long run and we are seeing the negative effects more than ever nowadays. its disgusting. You wonder if people are how they with religion, how bad they would be without it.
Anyways, thats my story and my worthless opinion. Im going to get stoned now, yall have a goody day and enjoy the show
Also, this man needs to get a FUCKING JOB. Donations? Pay me so I can play make believe all day and fuck my wife! Bullshit!
People would be fine without it (religion). But the irony is, as I see it, if only they followed from the Old Testament the 10 Commandments (leaving out the god bits). They are the best guide to a civilized and orderly society, methinks. No absolute need for religion.
18 children??? Good lawd. I would forget their names.
😂😂😂
I would forget mine!
The gentle narration is lovely to listen to
Very interesting documentary. Thank you. I hope that this project is successful
For me as a Muslim, the idea that living for God and living in the world are strictly separated seems very odd. Everything I do in this world is for God. Working to fulfll my needs, being productive to contribute to the common good, interacting with others, that is part of worship.
As a Jewish woman, I agree with all you said here.
It's the same for me as a Christian. There is even a New Testament scripture that says everything we do should be done whole-heartedly, as an offering to God. There is no separation between the sacred and the secular.
This guy left orthodox community and with no time he landed in germany and started having luxurious life. Is this a movie or real life?
Beautiful. If only all religions allowed people to move to other faiths, traditions, different ways of observing ,or none.I remember Rabbi Lionel Blue & Rabbi Hugo Gryn great thinkers and communicators of their faiths
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!