I am a very proud Breitling owner and lover of horology... But this is on the level of comparing a Monet painting to a Middle School art project. However I love the video concept and the boldness to even make a comparison such as this. The more literature I read about what makes high-end watchmaking high-end watchmaking.. the more I appreciate the level that patek brings to their timepieces.
Thank you so much for commenting! Totally agree it was a large gap to compare, but the Breitling certainly held its own! The patek is just in a league of its own.
@@shrevecrumplow As someone who would not have been able to tell you why one of these was a Monet and the other not, I found this video really helpful and interesting.
What a review! Breitling is getting back to the top but they need to make much thinner watches! This watch should have been 13MM and it would have had waiting lists for years- either way love the BREITLING, glad they are getting recognition they deserve finally!
Breitling winning the GPHG with the pistachio was prof positive of how much they have changed since the 90s. Love they are returning to form! Thanks for sharing!!
@@shrevecrumplow The pistachio or even the gold model of that watch is spectacular! Hopefully you'll review it soon, loving this channel just subscribed- great content!
Having tried that Breitling... it's super thick, which is it's biggest deterrent. If it came with a hand wound movement and measured less than 14mm (13 would be ideal), it would be a real winner and I would buy one for sure.
I’m a Patek fanboy for sure and I have to say , case design / size etc Patek wins by far but and I didn’t expect to say that I prefer the breitling dial
awesome video! it's a bold take to compare such different price points but it makes total sense! I think i'd still give my vote to the Patek, but the Breitling brings a STRONG fight.
I think the most frustrating thing about the breitling watch is it's so close yet they were totally within their power to make this materially closer in quality to the patek: Skip the automatic and go manual and get rid of the caseback to reduce the thickness, and make the dial more legible by making the day/month windows bigger, and the chronograph subdials smaller, just like the PP. Instead, they have a 42mm diameter 15+mm thickness benemoth of a dress watch that frankly, most people would not want to wear in any dressy occasion. Oh, and make the blue leather strap the standard strap! It's stands out with the blue accents in the dial! It's like their design team got 90% of the way there and just forgot the last few very very important details. Would've bought the watch long time ago if it wasn't so damn thick and the windows so small.
I wear the 116660DB Deep-Sea Sea-Dweller and although it is fine you really have trouble with it around cuffs. This Breitling measures, like, 15.3? And, my Rolex measures 18 - so it is really, really not ideal for any formal occasion!
The Datora looks amazing, especially for the price point. How does its wear experience compare to a Heuer 02 Monaco in terms of thickness? I know they're totally different watches, but the Monaco is also about 15.5mm thick.
Interesting question. They wear pretty differently but thickness wise they are about the same. Of course the Monaco wears much larger due to the fact that its a square.
Nice Breitling, but their best chronograph movement is the B01. I believe the movement on the Datora is a modified Valjoux movement. Thus the thickness.
While breitling seemed to go through a strange stage of "fashion watches" but they've always been in my top 5, while the breitling is a little to thick! It 95% there and for the price it's by far much better value! Based on the dial alone I'd choose the breitling, sorry not sorry. If I could afford the PP I'd own both but probably only wear the Breitling 😬
If money wasn't an issue, patek for sure. The size is perfect, they were able to squeeze a perpetual in that size while Breitling isn't even a perpetual and its 15.3 (thats really thick). It just says the finesse is not there for the Breitling. I like the dials on both. Machine finish i can understand because of the $, I don't expected a perpetual for this price, but I think they couldve done it in a more moderate size. Even i can make a perpetual if you gave me unlimited space but thats not what a skilled watchmaker does.
It is difficult to keep the cost out of the equation when it comes to wearability too. Walking around with a item on your wrist that costs as much as a small house or a second hand Ferrari is great in normal places that you might go. When venturing around after hours, in a less safe place of town, in the subway, or even on the street, there is a non zero chance that you get rolled for your watch. Would you be out and about with hundreds of thousands of dollars of cash in your wallet? I think not. So even if you can afford the Patek, there will always be just a little resistance to wear it in some circumstances unless of course that you have a monstrous amount of money than you can afford to carry hundreds of thousands of dollars on the street. My point is, for most of us, a $13K watch would be a painful loss if something would happen but nowhere near the kind of loss of losing the Patek. I guess, I like middle of the road luxury for most daily activities and reserve something more special for more upscale occasions. For this reason, I think they both are highly desirable watches for what they bring. No losers here.
Hmm in car Terms Patek is definitely a Bugatti, instead of custom coachbuilding you're getting custom craftsmanship. That said the Breitling dial offers the same experience as the Patek for 1/15th the price. They're both significant amounts of money but the Breitling is the price of a used car whilst Patek the price of a 1 bedroom Studio in the City... Or a 2 bedroom apartment in a little town... Unless you're a watch fanatic 2mm width & movement decorations just aren't worth that much. I LOVE watches and even I think spending more than $15-20k on a watch is lunacy unless you're so wealthy that amount is irrelevant.
I'm sorry comparing these two watches for me is to much of a reach. They aren't close other than they are both watches. The Breitling doesn't even have an in house movement which kills this at the jump. Which by the way I'm a Breitling guy and initially at its release I loved the Datora but I have up on it at its price point because of the movement and how thick it was. Nice vid however.
The Breitling movement is in house. You think there’s nearly a $200k difference between these watches? If you took the branding off most people wouldn’t even be about to discern which one is “higher quality”. Watches are 99% about brand perception.
@@charp150 no the Breitling movement is not in house its made by another company and supplied to Breitling. It's based on the 7750. Do your research before you I correct someone.
@@robertsullivan4773 this used to be the case but has not been for several years now. Both the B01 chrono and the B25 (what is in this watch) are manufacture movements. They are not based on the Valjoux 7750 as you indicated in your comment. Moreover, the B01 is regarded by many as one of the best chronograph movements on the market today. Having in house movements has been pretty crucial to Breitling’s reformation as a world class watchmaker. A simple internet search would tell you this.
@@charp150 I know the technical background of the B01. We weren't talking about the B01 we are talking about the movement in the new Datora which Is not manufactured by Breitling but by another movement manufacturer and is in fact based on a 7750 which they modified. Again research.
If you took off the names and showed people these two dials, the Patek would look like the unfinished alpha build. This is such a poor layout on Patek’s part. They couldn’t even align the letters on day and month or maybe it appears that way cause the size of letters vary so much between them… I’m sure there is some “heritage” explanation for bad design here. The depth and size of the subdials as well as the two-second-search on MS word for font suggestions all make this look super cheap. Worst part is definitely how they decided to handle numerals on the bottom half. It might have a Rolls Royce Engine but the chassis is more worthy of a Honda Civic. High horology needs to be more than just how much time people spend polishing something. China made watches could get the technical parts down in half the time at a quarter of the cost if that’s all we were after.
You can’t compare Breitling to Patek, that’s an insult to watch community… 😂😂😂 I own Colt and Calatrava, both amazing watches, but for a daily use I’d be terrified wearing Patek…
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Buy the Breitling and have money left over for the Land Rover.
Its hard to argue with that proposition! Thanks for commenting.
Lmao… I mean.. solid logic you’ve got there
Or a frikken house!
You could buy way more than a Land Rover
buy yourself a house and a car and tissot prx 80
I am a very proud Breitling owner and lover of horology... But this is on the level of comparing a Monet painting to a Middle School art project. However I love the video concept and the boldness to even make a comparison such as this. The more literature I read about what makes high-end watchmaking high-end watchmaking.. the more I appreciate the level that patek brings to their timepieces.
Thank you so much for commenting! Totally agree it was a large gap to compare, but the Breitling certainly held its own! The patek is just in a league of its own.
@@shrevecrumplow As someone who would not have been able to tell you why one of these was a Monet and the other not, I found this video really helpful and interesting.
What a review! Breitling is getting back to the top but they need to make much thinner watches! This watch should have been 13MM and it would have had waiting lists for years- either way love the BREITLING, glad they are getting recognition they deserve finally!
Breitling winning the GPHG with the pistachio was prof positive of how much they have changed since the 90s. Love they are returning to form! Thanks for sharing!!
@@shrevecrumplow The pistachio or even the gold model of that watch is spectacular! Hopefully you'll review it soon, loving this channel just subscribed- great content!
@@torontowatches9709 Thank you!!
Couldn't agree more!
Bingo!
I appreciate this thoughtful and nuanced comparison.
A wonderful and high quality comparison of two very unique watches. Very well made video
Thank you so much! Be on the lookout for more comparison videos.
Thanks Nik!
Having tried that Breitling... it's super thick, which is it's biggest deterrent. If it came with a hand wound movement and measured less than 14mm (13 would be ideal), it would be a real winner and I would buy one for sure.
Thanks for commenting Jeremy! The Breitling is certainly on the thick side, however it does wear well on slightly larger wrists!
I’m a Patek fanboy for sure and I have to say , case design / size etc Patek wins by far but and I didn’t expect to say that I prefer the breitling dial
awesome video! it's a bold take to compare such different price points but it makes total sense! I think i'd still give my vote to the Patek, but the Breitling brings a STRONG fight.
Thanks John, the Datora really took us all by surprise. A real breath of fresh air for Breitling!
John, too fun not to compare the too! 😀
Excellent video. Very educational and entertaining. I’m amazed that anyone could get their hands on the Patek for a comparison like this.
Thank you George, we get a lot of very special watches here at Shreve, Crump & Low and we love to share them with you guys! Both are great!
I think the most frustrating thing about the breitling watch is it's so close yet they were totally within their power to make this materially closer in quality to the patek: Skip the automatic and go manual and get rid of the caseback to reduce the thickness, and make the dial more legible by making the day/month windows bigger, and the chronograph subdials smaller, just like the PP. Instead, they have a 42mm diameter 15+mm thickness benemoth of a dress watch that frankly, most people would not want to wear in any dressy occasion. Oh, and make the blue leather strap the standard strap! It's stands out with the blue accents in the dial! It's like their design team got 90% of the way there and just forgot the last few very very important details.
Would've bought the watch long time ago if it wasn't so damn thick and the windows so small.
I wear the 116660DB Deep-Sea Sea-Dweller and although it is fine you really have trouble with it around cuffs. This Breitling measures, like, 15.3? And, my Rolex measures 18 - so it is really, really not ideal for any formal occasion!
Its actually wears very great
The Datora looks amazing, especially for the price point. How does its wear experience compare to a Heuer 02 Monaco in terms of thickness? I know they're totally different watches, but the Monaco is also about 15.5mm thick.
Interesting question. They wear pretty differently but thickness wise they are about the same. Of course the Monaco wears much larger due to the fact that its a square.
the Breitling is actually nicer in person, tried it on today
The Breitling is spectacular!
I tried one on recently as well. It really is stunning in person. Pictures and video don't do it justice.
Two great pieces for two different crowds.
The breitling is an everyday watch for all of us. The PP is also an everyday watch but for some of us
I am surprised that at first glance I like the look of the Breitling better.
A lot of people have said that at the store. Saves you a good chunk of change too!
Nice Breitling, but their best chronograph movement is the B01. I believe the movement on the Datora is a modified Valjoux movement. Thus the thickness.
The Breitling's salmon pink tone dial is preferable over Patek's dull, muted tone.
Great video Brian!
While breitling seemed to go through a strange stage of "fashion watches" but they've always been in my top 5, while the breitling is a little to thick! It 95% there and for the price it's by far much better value! Based on the dial alone I'd choose the breitling, sorry not sorry. If I could afford the PP I'd own both but probably only wear the Breitling 😬
It really is great to see how far Breitling has come in terms of reconnecting with their heritage. Great choice!
If money wasn't an issue, patek for sure. The size is perfect, they were able to squeeze a perpetual in that size while Breitling isn't even a perpetual and its 15.3 (thats really thick). It just says the finesse is not there for the Breitling. I like the dials on both. Machine finish i can understand because of the $, I don't expected a perpetual for this price, but I think they couldve done it in a more moderate size. Even i can make a perpetual if you gave me unlimited space but thats not what a skilled watchmaker does.
Thickness is one of those aspects of watchmaking that separate the good from the great! Great comment!
It is difficult to keep the cost out of the equation when it comes to wearability too. Walking around with a item on your wrist that costs as much as a small house or a second hand Ferrari is great in normal places that you might go. When venturing around after hours, in a less safe place of town, in the subway, or even on the street, there is a non zero chance that you get rolled for your watch. Would you be out and about with hundreds of thousands of dollars of cash in your wallet? I think not. So even if you can afford the Patek, there will always be just a little resistance to wear it in some circumstances unless of course that you have a monstrous amount of money than you can afford to carry hundreds of thousands of dollars on the street. My point is, for most of us, a $13K watch would be a painful loss if something would happen but nowhere near the kind of loss of losing the Patek. I guess, I like middle of the road luxury for most daily activities and reserve something more special for more upscale occasions. For this reason, I think they both are highly desirable watches for what they bring. No losers here.
Prefer the look of the breitling but it’s still a very expensive watch! The patek will have more hand finishing but price difference is insane
Not a big fan of the Patek snobbery, but man the way they engineer and make their watches, its a league above.
Great video!
Wonderful video guys!
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Really nice video for everyone who loves watches!!!!
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Have a. Patek minute repeater.... And the perpetual is also very beautiful.... But both are too complicated, me thinks...
I’ll be honest, the Breitling has the better dial.
Hmm in car Terms Patek is definitely a Bugatti, instead of custom coachbuilding you're getting custom craftsmanship.
That said the Breitling dial offers the same experience as the Patek for 1/15th the price. They're both significant amounts of money but the Breitling is the price of a used car whilst Patek the price of a 1 bedroom Studio in the City... Or a 2 bedroom apartment in a little town... Unless you're a watch fanatic 2mm width & movement decorations just aren't worth that much. I LOVE watches and even I think spending more than $15-20k on a watch is lunacy unless you're so wealthy that amount is irrelevant.
Great points, glad you enjoyed the video!
Put micro lens then you will know which watch polishing is the best… obviously patek… but durability i choose breits
I'm sorry comparing these two watches for me is to much of a reach. They aren't close other than they are both watches. The Breitling doesn't even have an in house movement which kills this at the jump. Which by the way I'm a Breitling guy and initially at its release I loved the Datora but I have up on it at its price point because of the movement and how thick it was. Nice vid however.
Thanks for your feedback! Be on the lookout for more battles featuring more comparable watches.
The Breitling movement is in house. You think there’s nearly a $200k difference between these watches? If you took the branding off most people wouldn’t even be about to discern which one is “higher quality”. Watches are 99% about brand perception.
@@charp150 no the Breitling movement is not in house its made by another company and supplied to Breitling. It's based on the 7750. Do your research before you I correct someone.
@@robertsullivan4773 this used to be the case but has not been for several years now. Both the B01 chrono and the B25 (what is in this watch) are manufacture movements. They are not based on the Valjoux 7750 as you indicated in your comment. Moreover, the B01 is regarded by many as one of the best chronograph movements on the market today. Having in house movements has been pretty crucial to Breitling’s reformation as a world class watchmaker. A simple internet search would tell you this.
@@charp150 I know the technical background of the B01. We weren't talking about the B01 we are talking about the movement in the new Datora which Is not manufactured by Breitling but by another movement manufacturer and is in fact based on a 7750 which they modified. Again research.
Patek sub dial sit lower than the Central hand sets. Prefer the Breitling over Patek in this regard.
Interesting! Those small details can really be a killer to some!
Breitling for me
Whats the music
If you took off the names and showed people these two dials, the Patek would look like the unfinished alpha build. This is such a poor layout on Patek’s part. They couldn’t even align the letters on day and month or maybe it appears that way cause the size of letters vary so much between them… I’m sure there is some “heritage” explanation for bad design here.
The depth and size of the subdials as well as the two-second-search on MS word for font suggestions all make this look super cheap.
Worst part is definitely how they decided to handle numerals on the bottom half. It might have a Rolls Royce Engine but the chassis is more worthy of a Honda Civic.
High horology needs to be more than just how much time people spend polishing something. China made watches could get the technical parts down in half the time at a quarter of the cost if that’s all we were after.
The Breitling is better looking and far more legible to my eye. Both do the job very well, the value like anything falls to the individual.
Well said!
The breitling is 7500 USD now in mid2024
It must be 3 Watch in this video, Uou forgot JLC Master Chrono calendar
Good pick! If we get one in we will be sure to review it.
Breitling all day. Use the rest of the money to put down payment for a house😂
Those to watches,face on square,that 1mm is lot .
Saamon dial?
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You sound like Will Wheaton. 😂
The 2,9 mm difference reveals one being an automatic with a rotor and other one hand winding. Please show at least a bit of basic knowledge.
$206,000 is clown S for a watch
Breitling is no match.
You can’t compare Breitling to Patek, that’s an insult to watch community… 😂😂😂
I own Colt and Calatrava, both amazing watches, but for a daily use I’d be terrified wearing Patek…
Only one winner here.. ones affordable and one, most could never afford . Breitling 👏
Brietling = Valjoux movement 😆
basically comparing apples and oranges just because they have a similar color face...
Just randomly discovering this channel. First thought is that the channel name is a joke. Maybe you should take advice from marketing consultants ?
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They're probably both made in the same factory in China anyway
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Breitling is like the wife that you keep dropping of at the plastic surgeon and hope she looks like the girl of your dream when you pick her up!!