Watching and listening to this interview brought back memories. I would like to communicate with Anthony as I have many stories about the intersection of Buddy Rich, Ellis Tollin and Ben Strauss.
I have a Covington era Rogers Powertone snare drum from around 1965-66. F initialed on the paper sticker. Assembled by Frank Walters and given to me for free by a friend of the family. Excellent snare. Actually shocked at how good it is. I think it’s chrome over brass.
Thanks Bart and Anthony. This is truly a fascinating history and specifically Roger's history. His You Tube channel is wonderfully interesting about the back story on Rogers and the Covington era. Interviews with employees about production and products are great information.
One thing I noticed about Rogers shells the drilling of the holes was kind of funky at times I’ve had Roger sets with chunks of wood, torn out of the inside of the shell. At the hole. In other words, where the holes were drilled, for the lugs and other fittings. One of my Rogers sets the 9 x 13 tom-tom had a big chunk of wood torn out from a faulty drillbit so what they did was right at the hole where the hex rod, goes into the Tom Tom. So what they did (by the way, this was one of the first California made sets)! it was made in 1970 in Fullerton! They took some putty and shoved it in the gouged out area next to the hole and they didn’t even bother to smooth it out or sand it whoever stuffed the putty in the shell just left it there you can see the guys fingerprint or thumbprint in the dry putty and then they just sprayed the gray speckled paint over, the inside of the shell you could actually see the guys thumbprintRogers had a problem with their drillbits either they did not replace them periodically or they did not send them out to get sharpened and I’ve seen many Roger shells with chunks of wood, torn out of the interior, wall of the shell where the holes ! However, as far as I’m concerned, Rogers are Still the best sounding drums to ever hit the market
Thank you Bart and Anthony. I have the very prestigeous honor of being the #69 to click "like" on this video! Fantastic job men! I'm truly geeking out on every detail, and you guy's are bringing it!
I have a Rogers Covington era drum kit circa mid-1960's: four piece 'Swingtime' configuration kit in the steel grey ripple finish. I fleshed it out into a double-bass kit by adding on another matching bass drum and 8 x 12 and 9 x 13 toms in matching finish but I use it most of the time as a four piece kit. Wonderfully made drums they are very solid and heavy. Modern kits have more convenient features like more robust hardware but there's just something about playing great vintage drums.
My first set was rodgers set, sold it when i got a double bass ludwig vistalite set, but i did keep my rodgers rocket pedal, that pedal trained my foot soooooo good.
So cool! Now I know..........I've been a DRUM Geek for years.........Thank you! Totally agree with the CBS down fall, seen it so many times.........BTW Boom The egg shape! The answer......"I now know" That's why they(Ringo) Switched over. Why Childhood Question answered at age 66! Thank you! "This is what we built the company on!............." I love it! Anthony Amodeo and Bart Thank you Thank you! I feel like I'm not alone! "Ben Strauss" Thank you!
This was interesting, I never knew anything about Rogers drums, and I've never played any, so I don't know how they sound or feel. I remember when I started being interested in drums, and rock bands in the mid 70's, I would see Ludwig, and Rogers drums mostly when I would go watch bands, but after that, during the 80's, it seemed to switch to Pearl and Tama, and almost never saw any Rogers in the past 30 years or so, I had even forgotten about that brand until I started watching old music stuff on youtube, and for the past 20 or 30 years, all you see is dw. I've never been hooked on any brand name, Ludwig, Gretch, Rogers, Slingerland, Pearl, Tama, Yamaha, ect. . . . I love em' all !
My first kit was an early 1980s era Rodgers. I paid $550 for it in the fall of 1987 by working at a local Taco Bell. 😒It was nothing to write home about it but I got about 10 good years out of it before switching to a set of Yamahas ... which I still have.
I thought the original Rogers wraps came from an Italian company who specialize in eyeglass frame, inlays and toilet seat covers, and Rogers bought a lot of their plastic coverings from them
@@Rogersdrumvideos : yes, that’s what I thought I could never memorize the name of the company that was some of the most beautiful looking sea blue white marine pearl I’ve ever seen on any drum set the precision, drum companie’s, white pearl doesn’t come close to it if you look at the cover of the buddy rich album, swinging new big band where he’s playing a pre-CBS Rogers drum set that white Marie pearl is gorgeous. Can you still get it? Can you still get the Italian made white marine pearl. I’d love to get some sheets of it and recover my drums with it. What’s the word on that Anthony?!
@@Rogersdrumvideos : is Del Mar still in business? Can we still get that original pre-CBS, white marine pearl that Rogers used for that was gorgeous I used to have a set with that finish. Unfortunately I sold it.
Piqua is pronouced "pickwa". My son said we need to give you a list of Ohio words to pronounce. Tuscarawas (tusk a roar wa); Cuyahoga (ky a hoge a) with a long "O"; Scioto (cy oat a); Houston (house ton); Russia (roosh a), etc. I'm sure that every state has their share.
None of the 1963 to 1970s pre-XP8 Rogers drums sound like all maple shell construction. Maple/birch construction sounds like a believable story for the 1963 to pre-XP8 shells. Despite the lack of written documentation for the shell companies using birch, we should give credence primarily to what the drums actually sound like. Listen for the lesser midrange frequencies of partially maple Rogers and Gretsch USA Custom and compare to an all maple shell like that of Ludwig's Classic Maple, George Way/Camco, or Spaun's maple drums. Camco is a good comparison with 1963-197x Rogers because both have reinforcement rings, but only one is an all maple shell.
No birch has been found is any species tests thus far. Especially not in the early shells... pure maple. I'll trust microscopic ID services from a wood species identification expert over someones ears. ... Just sayin... We have another run of later shells going in to be tested soon.
@@Rogersdrumvideos Rogers promoted the XP8 with advertising highlighting a feature, the all maple shell. Would Rogers advertise the all maple feature of a drum set if it was an older Rogers shell composition? Possibly, if the marketing was just marketing speak. If Rogers was trying to promote something new in terms of the shell construction, it would follow that the older shells were not all maple.
@@attentionkevin so you are saying that a wood science expert with 30 years of microscopically identifying wood species is incorrect? ok... you go with that. I'll go with the science. Be well.
I appreciate your effort as well as that of the wood science expert. Modern science is never about one person's conclusion, though. Not sure what publication in which he would publish his findings. The great thing about scientific journals and peer review is that other experts can challenge the findings or bring their own insight to the matter. Scientists aren't correct in every instance. @@Rogersdrumvideos
@@attentionkevin A wood species identification expert with a resume 11 pages long and a long list of accolades and awards isn't correct but some random guy commenting on a UA-cam video's ears are .... is that where we are right now? ok... that's a tiny bit insane and I'll be respectfully bowing out of this conversation. You be well.
Thank You Anthony. Your Passion for Rogers and History Seeking ,Compassion is very Inspiring. 👍🥁🎉
Thank You Bart for another Incredible Video.👍🥁🎉
thanxs for the Rogers deep dive 🙏 so much more to discover 🥁 i luv it ❤
Watching and listening to this interview brought back memories. I would like to communicate with Anthony as I have many stories about the intersection of Buddy Rich, Ellis Tollin and Ben Strauss.
I would love to hear those stories
Wonderful job Anthony & Bart!
Thank you Captain.
See you in a couple days!
The pic of the floor tom absolutely looks like birch. I onow wood very well. Worked with it in finishing for over 20 years.
I have a Covington era Rogers Powertone snare drum from around 1965-66. F initialed on the paper sticker. Assembled by Frank Walters and given to me for free by a friend of the family. Excellent snare. Actually shocked at how good it is. I think it’s chrome over brass.
This is geeky drum nerd details at the top of the game, thanks guys!
Thanks Bart and Anthony. This is truly a fascinating history and specifically Roger's history. His You Tube channel is wonderfully interesting about the back story on Rogers and the Covington era. Interviews with employees about production and products are great information.
One thing I noticed about Rogers shells the drilling of the holes was kind of funky at times I’ve had Roger sets with chunks of wood, torn out of the inside of the shell. At the hole. In other words, where the holes were drilled, for the lugs and other fittings. One of my Rogers sets the 9 x 13 tom-tom had a big chunk of wood torn out from a faulty drillbit so what they did was right at the hole where the hex rod, goes into the Tom Tom. So what they did (by the way, this was one of the first California made sets)! it was made in 1970 in Fullerton! They took some putty and shoved it in the gouged out area next to the hole and they didn’t even bother to smooth it out or sand it whoever stuffed the putty in the shell just left it there you can see the guys fingerprint or thumbprint in the dry putty and then they just sprayed the gray speckled paint over, the inside of the shell you could actually see the guys thumbprintRogers had a problem with their drillbits either they did not replace them periodically or they did not send them out to get sharpened and I’ve seen many Roger shells with chunks of wood, torn out of the interior, wall of the shell where the holes ! However, as far as I’m concerned, Rogers are Still the best sounding drums to ever hit the market
Thank you Bart and Anthony. I have the very prestigeous honor of being the #69 to click "like" on this video! Fantastic job men! I'm truly geeking out on every detail, and you guy's are bringing it!
I have a Rogers Covington era drum kit circa mid-1960's: four piece 'Swingtime' configuration kit in the steel grey ripple finish. I fleshed it out into a double-bass kit by adding on another matching bass drum and 8 x 12 and 9 x 13 toms in matching finish but I use it most of the time as a four piece kit. Wonderfully made drums they are very solid and heavy. Modern kits have more convenient features like more robust hardware but there's just something about playing great vintage drums.
Ive just purchased a modern Covington kit
The new Rogers Drums are beautifully made. Best of luck with them.
Recently found a Covington kit and have been checking out info ever since. This came at exactly the right time. Thanks Bart and Anthony
My first set was rodgers set, sold it when i got a double bass ludwig vistalite set, but i did keep my rodgers rocket pedal, that pedal trained my foot soooooo good.
Ludwig double bass concert tom 8 piece vistalite set, Rodgers rocket pedal (right), Ludwig speed King pedal (left), zildjian cymbals..
So cool! Now I know..........I've been a DRUM Geek for years.........Thank you! Totally agree with the CBS down fall, seen it so many times.........BTW Boom The egg shape! The answer......"I now know" That's why they(Ringo) Switched over. Why Childhood Question answered at age 66! Thank you! "This is what we built the company on!............." I love it! Anthony Amodeo and Bart Thank you Thank you! I feel like I'm not alone! "Ben Strauss" Thank you!
This was interesting, I never knew anything about Rogers drums, and I've never played any, so I don't know how they sound or feel. I remember when I started being interested in drums, and rock bands in the mid 70's, I would see Ludwig, and Rogers drums mostly when I would go watch bands, but after that, during the 80's, it seemed to switch to Pearl and Tama, and almost never saw any Rogers in the past 30 years or so, I had even forgotten about that brand until I started watching old music stuff on youtube, and for the past 20 or 30 years, all you see is dw.
I've never been hooked on any brand name, Ludwig, Gretch, Rogers, Slingerland, Pearl, Tama, Yamaha, ect. . . . I love em' all !
Love Bart; he's a great guy a keeping the flame alive...
West coast poplar is very soft, is there a variety of poplar on the east coast or mid-west that's adequately hard enough for drumshells?
Thank you for doing this. So, H.R. penciled on a Fullerton tag is for Helen Ross? Does that make sense?
Helen Ross did not make the move to Fullerton. Unfortunately we don't have the employee information from that era.
My first kit was an early 1980s era Rodgers. I paid $550 for it in the fall of 1987 by working at a local Taco Bell. 😒It was nothing to write home about it but I got about 10 good years out of it before switching to a set of Yamahas ... which I still have.
you are the maple lol
I thought the original Rogers wraps came from an Italian company who specialize in eyeglass frame, inlays and toilet seat covers, and Rogers bought a lot of their plastic coverings from them
Mazzuchelli supplied Delmar.
Rogers did not buy directly from them.
And that was in the later 60s starting around ‘66
@@Rogersdrumvideos : yes, that’s what I thought I could never memorize the name of the company that was some of the most beautiful looking sea blue white marine pearl I’ve ever seen on any drum set the precision, drum companie’s, white pearl doesn’t come close to it if you look at the cover of the buddy rich album, swinging new big band where he’s playing a pre-CBS Rogers drum set that white Marie pearl is gorgeous. Can you still get it? Can you still get the Italian made white marine pearl. I’d love to get some sheets of it and recover my drums with it. What’s the word on that Anthony?!
@@Rogersdrumvideos : is Del Mar still in business? Can we still get that original pre-CBS, white marine pearl that Rogers used for that was gorgeous I used to have a set with that finish. Unfortunately I sold it.
Piqua is pronouced "pickwa". My son said we need to give you a list of Ohio words to pronounce. Tuscarawas (tusk a roar wa); Cuyahoga (ky a hoge a) with a long "O"; Scioto (cy oat a); Houston (house ton); Russia (roosh a), etc. I'm sure that every state has their share.
Thanks Dave.
Apologies for the mispronunciation
roosh a?? not
The wifey yattering in the back ground us unnerving. Women!!!!
Be kind to women and your drumming will improve by 83% according to science.
I think Radio Kings sound better!
None of the 1963 to 1970s pre-XP8 Rogers drums sound like all maple shell construction. Maple/birch construction sounds like a believable story for the 1963 to pre-XP8 shells. Despite the lack of written documentation for the shell companies using birch, we should give credence primarily to what the drums actually sound like. Listen for the lesser midrange frequencies of partially maple Rogers and Gretsch USA Custom and compare to an all maple shell like that of Ludwig's Classic Maple, George Way/Camco, or Spaun's maple drums. Camco is a good comparison with 1963-197x Rogers because both have reinforcement rings, but only one is an all maple shell.
No birch has been found is any species tests thus far.
Especially not in the early shells... pure maple.
I'll trust microscopic ID services from a wood species identification expert over someones ears.
... Just sayin...
We have another run of later shells going in to be tested soon.
@@Rogersdrumvideos Rogers promoted the XP8 with advertising highlighting a feature, the all maple shell. Would Rogers advertise the all maple feature of a drum set if it was an older Rogers shell composition? Possibly, if the marketing was just marketing speak. If Rogers was trying to promote something new in terms of the shell construction, it would follow that the older shells were not all maple.
@@attentionkevin so you are saying that a wood science expert with 30 years of microscopically identifying wood species is incorrect?
ok... you go with that.
I'll go with the science.
Be well.
I appreciate your effort as well as that of the wood science expert. Modern science is never about one person's conclusion, though. Not sure what publication in which he would publish his findings. The great thing about scientific journals and peer review is that other experts can challenge the findings or bring their own insight to the matter. Scientists aren't correct in every instance. @@Rogersdrumvideos
@@attentionkevin A wood species identification expert with a resume 11 pages long and a long list of accolades and awards isn't correct but some random guy commenting on a UA-cam video's ears are .... is that where we are right now?
ok... that's a tiny bit insane and I'll be respectfully bowing out of this conversation.
You be well.