Don't believe anyone who says the worst ownership in all of professional sports isn't responsible for the current state of the Browns. They OK'd a starting QB search that should never have been initiated, and until these two issues are resolved, my beloved NFL franchise will be mired in mediocrity, at best.
That’s not accurate at all. Don’t blame the one owner rich enough to step up and have the balls to back up a $230 million contract, which was based on recommendations from Barry and DePotesta. Haslam hasn’t interfered with the roster since Manzel.
Haslems spend their money stupidly all the time over and over every year - His biggest problem is not having smart football people in your front office on down to the coaches - he had that with John Dorsey and screwed him and the Cleveland fan base, it's so toxic no big names would want to come to this mess
What weird vibes? We swung for the fences and missed. Now we have a bunch of very good players in their prime on the books but we can’t compete. So they all know we are about to tear it all down and start again. Pretty par for the course in Cleveland.
I tuned in because I like Tony Grossi, but no one seems to be able to make any sense out of the Browns again... Seems all too familiar. Who really cares anymore ?
Walker is struggling very bad versus the pass. Hunt is doing good but not great, given his age and playing behind the best Oline. Baker has done very well (especially given the big injuries on that team)
Before this season Cleveland, with Stefanski and Berry, were averaging 9.25 wins per season. I don't think they're going anywhere after this season. But you're right, these coming games will play a big role in determining who will be here.
Saints took the browns out a couple years ago. It was one of the coldest games in Cleveland history and they couldn’t beat a lousy dome team from the south
Who cares!!!! It’s the Browns. Let’s hear it, who’s up for the team moving to Montana, the Bozeman Browns!!! More lovingly know as the Bozo Browns by locals! Led by their chief, owner Bozo Haslam!
The Browns definitely don't need a complete rebuild like they did in the Hugh Jackson days. This team has plenty of talent. They just need a few key changes.
@cleveland2022, And one us an established, respected starting QB, and the one that replaced him will never play for the Browns again, and may never play in the NFL again, period. I know defending the indefensible is hard work, but c'mon man!
@@sipesthebest128 lol can you read? I guess not, who is supporting Watson. This is about the scrub that you losers think is so great. Baker is a chump, always has been always will be
@@sipesthebest128 Maybe you have brain damage lol. Who said I support Watson he sucks too. This is about Faker Mayfield who you dopes think is so good. Only moron Browns fans think Faker is a good QB. Faker is a loser. See the facts above
It's really awful if the Browns can't count on a home field advantage. At times, like Tony said, it's been an advantage to play on the road. The Browns need the true die hard fans to show up and show out in a positive way, game after game, no matter who the QB is. That's who Browns fans are supposed be. I've always said the Browns fans were the best fans in the NFL. 🤔 Can fans be great fans when they don't pull for the team at home? Paul Brown started the great history of diversity in Cleveland.
@@bjmartin1215 Browns have the dumbest fans in the Hiatory of the World. Seriously who would willingly pay to watch this garbage. There shouldnt be 1 person that goes to their games
Tony should resign. I used to love to listen to him. He's lost all credibility. One of his last famous quotes, after the first loss, " I think the Browns will go 4-1 after the first loss" They thought they heard him wrong, Did you say, 4-1? He said, yes. What was he looking at? Bye Tony! When you're that far off, I can't listen to you anymore. Geez!
I don’t agree you just blow up the organizational chart. Everyone thought Watson would be good. I was against the move, but I thought he’d be an upgrade. The roster looked good, but it got old in key spots and a few guys underperformed. It happens. Keep some continuity for a change.
Everyone blaming Haslem 😂 are previous QB couldn't take them any further so he tried to upgrade, They thought Watson was going to be Houston Watson! If you say you knew he wasn't going to be at the time you're full of shit
Jimmy Haslem gave Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefansky cart Blanche to do whatever to make the team better. What else can he do???? You have the worst head coach and staff and the worst GM in the NFL. After the year. Those will be resolved
No they don't. WE. need to stick w these guys. One bad decision by whoever made it...probably Jimmy doesn't mean u throw ur talent away ...let's get hue back if that the case. Further u have to give credit to an owner willing to spend. Too many did not live through the models days...a whole different form of no hope.
Don't believe anyone who says the worst ownership in all of professional sports isn't responsible for the current state of the Browns.
They OK'd a starting QB search that should never have been initiated, and until these two issues are resolved, my beloved NFL franchise will be mired in mediocrity, at best.
@@sipesthebest128 They have been awful for 60 years. Holy smokes
haslam is responsible for the current mess
That’s not accurate at all. Don’t blame the one owner rich enough to step up and have the balls to back up a $230 million contract, which was based on recommendations from Barry and DePotesta. Haslam hasn’t interfered with the roster since Manzel.
Mr Haslam you need to sell the team
Haslems spend their money stupidly all the time over and over every year - His biggest problem is not having smart football people in your front office on down to the coaches - he had that with John Dorsey and screwed him and the Cleveland fan base, it's so toxic no big names would want to come to this mess
@@DanLovesBooks- sell everything you own and buy the team from him. C’mon tough guy…pony up!!
@@JoeMorellanaw Berry didn't want it.
Really like the Cavs ballcap, need to find that one.
We about to fire Paul Depodesta and Andrew Berry and keep Kevin Stefanski!
Sounds good 👍 unfortunately Haslams love Mr. Baseball Depodesta 😢
Let's hope so
Don't want AB picking anyone next season
Jimmy created this mess!
Tony is so freakin burnt him and that Mary Kay Cabot when it comes to the Browns 😂😂😂
What weird vibes? We swung for the fences and missed. Now we have a bunch of very good players in their prime on the books but we can’t compete. So they all know we are about to tear it all down and start again. Pretty par for the course in Cleveland.
Who’s good in their prime? Denzel Seau?
@ Basically the entirety of the roster other than QB. Pick a position.
I tuned in because I like Tony Grossi, but no one seems to be able to make any sense out of the Browns again... Seems all too familiar. Who really cares anymore ?
@@Ev3rNoor23 ✔️
Just take the browns and the owner to another city. Owner ruined the browns.
Anthony Walker playing great for Miami..Hunt great for KC .Mayfield great for Tampa..sucks to see that
Walker is struggling very bad versus the pass. Hunt is doing good but not great, given his age and playing behind the best Oline. Baker has done very well (especially given the big injuries on that team)
Before this season Cleveland, with Stefanski and Berry, were averaging 9.25 wins per season. I don't think they're going anywhere after this season. But you're right, these coming games will play a big role in determining who will be here.
Do you realize what you just said?😂😂😂😂
Browns peaked last year. Now in a full throttle nosedive. Not going to get better for a long time.
No way Stefansky goes...2 and 7 next year yeah..but not this year
Saints took the browns out a couple years ago. It was one of the coldest games in Cleveland history and they couldn’t beat a lousy dome team from the south
@@davedon4616 Bingo
Stefanski is an empty suit ,,,, we need a Dan Campbell-type Coach for this team and fan base ,,, Oh yeah - how about a certain ex-Titans Coach .....
Vrabel isnt Dan Campbell
Who cares!!!! It’s the Browns. Let’s hear it, who’s up for the team moving to Montana, the Bozeman Browns!!! More lovingly know as the Bozo Browns by locals! Led by their chief, owner Bozo Haslam!
@@michaelsnodgrass1808 I will help them pack
I would prefer the Browns move to Antartica. The Factory of Sadness can have a domed stadium there to keep the cold & snow out.
The Browns definitely don't need a complete rebuild like they did in the Hugh Jackson days. This team has plenty of talent. They just need a few key changes.
😂😂😂😂
This is a who cares game. 2-7 vs 3-7. I would rather watch paint dry😂
Andrew Berry is one of the best GM's in the NFL. Would like to see him get full control and build a team his way along with hiring the HC.
Too funny 😂😂 have you checked his drafts? His trades have been so so but he will never get full control in Cleveland.
@@yardofwar lmao.
Lets bring coach prime and sheduer
This is what Tony wanted, he helped run Baker out of town.
😂😂😂😂 Baker is 47-55 as a starter. 17-24 since he left. Winners win, losers lose. Baker is a loser
Only dimwits use "winners win..." and learn to math better.
@cleveland2022,
And one us an established, respected starting QB, and the one that replaced him will never play for the Browns again, and may never play in the NFL again, period.
I know defending the indefensible is hard work, but c'mon man!
@@sipesthebest128 lol can you read? I guess not, who is supporting Watson. This is about the scrub that you losers think is so great. Baker is a chump, always has been always will be
@@sipesthebest128 Maybe you have brain damage lol. Who said I support Watson he sucks too. This is about Faker Mayfield who you dopes think is so good. Only moron Browns fans think Faker is a good QB. Faker is a loser. See the facts above
It's really awful if the Browns can't count on a home field advantage. At times, like Tony said, it's been an advantage to play on the road. The Browns need the true die hard fans to show up and show out in a positive way, game after game, no matter who the QB is. That's who Browns fans are supposed be. I've always said the Browns fans were the best fans in the NFL. 🤔 Can fans be great fans when they don't pull for the team at home? Paul Brown started the great history of diversity in Cleveland.
@@bjmartin1215 Browns have the dumbest fans in the Hiatory of the World. Seriously who would willingly pay to watch this garbage. There shouldnt be 1 person that goes to their games
Mark 4:39 And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
I guess we need to persevere on our own, so the Lord's prayer will help.
jimmy needs to bail us fans out and clean house
He should sell the team. Things will not get better until he does.
@@banditY2K abso-f*ckin-lutely
Jimmy is the problem! He destroys most things he touches!
If Winston has a good game I think we could win N O isn’t that good.
The browns are worse, just saying
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Clean house. Stefanski, Depodesta, and Berry must be held accountable.
Hue and kakonis available...that ur thinking?
Tony should resign. I used to love to listen to him. He's lost all credibility. One of his last famous quotes, after the first loss, " I think the Browns will go 4-1 after the first loss" They thought they heard him wrong, Did you say, 4-1? He said, yes. What was he looking at? Bye Tony! When you're that far off, I can't listen to you anymore. Geez!
and he was super giddy after Browns beat ravens and was proclaiming browns can end the season with a winning record
I don’t agree you just blow up the organizational chart. Everyone thought Watson would be good. I was against the move, but I thought he’d be an upgrade. The roster looked good, but it got old in key spots and a few guys underperformed. It happens. Keep some continuity for a change.
Everyone blaming Haslem 😂 are previous QB couldn't take them any further so he tried to upgrade, They thought Watson was going to be Houston Watson! If you say you knew he wasn't going to be at the time you're full of shit
Watson hasn't been good in FOUR YEARS and even then won FOUR GAMES.
Jimmy Haslem gave Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefansky cart Blanche to do whatever to make the team better. What else can he do???? You have the worst head coach and staff and the worst GM in the NFL. After the year. Those will be resolved
Found jimmy’s burner
No they don't. WE. need to stick w these guys. One bad decision by whoever made it...probably Jimmy doesn't mean u throw ur talent away ...let's get hue back if that the case.
Further u have to give credit to an owner willing to spend. Too many did not live through the models days...a whole different form of no hope.
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@@tonyhill5235U never give credit to a moron that is directly responsible for 11 of 13 losing seasons as the owner, with awful hire after awful hire