I remember a letter in a magazine some decades ago from a man who recalled as a very young boy watching a veterans parade, when a very old man came over to him and asked to shake his hand. He did, and the man told him he was a Civil War vet who had seen a Revolutionary War veteran when he was a child and shook his hand. The Civil War vet told him not to forget he was only two handshakes away from the start of the country. I always wanted to shake that writer's hand. It's unbelievable to think even today, we could still be just three handshakes away from 1776.
And to think we're already a dying empire.. Has to be the quickest rise and fall in history. Capitalism had many benefits however the founding fathers should have insisted the people vote to overhaul and amend the top 10 functions of government they want to add or eliminate every 10 years! Imagine if the people had the power to remove lobbying and corporate bribery of election campaigns and eliminate medical bankruptcy! Or demand 4 year elections of the Supreme Court justices.. It was a good Sprint we had 😉
@@shinobi-no-bueno Huh.. the British, Spanish Empire had a king and queen.. wasn't labelled as Emperor.. Are you the contrarian type to deny Tom Brady as a football player bc where's the Soccer Ball?
The “Dutch” to whom he refers were actually German-Americans. They told Missourians that they were “Deutsch,” which was misunderstood as “Dutch.” The vast majority of German immigrants in Missouri were pro-union, while quite a few of their neighbors were not.
93 years ago that guy was 94 meaning he was born 187 years ago in 1836 and we can hear him speak. He was born before photography had been invented and Napoleon was still alive on St. Helena. This is amazing.
Napoleon died in 1821 from stomach cancer. Not quite that old. He was however, born in time to witness Napoleonic/War of 1812 veterans, including the infamous Sir Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington.
When I was a stupid kid in the early 1960's, I would get bored to tears listening to my 95-year-old great grandmother going on and on about life in the 1800s. She was born 4 years after the end of the civil war. She was one of the less than 2% of women who attended university. She had a successful career as dramatic storyteller. Filling small theaters and sometimes even large venues. Before silent movies, dramatic readings were evidently as popular as films are today. Crazy. I wish someone had recorded her long-winded tales. I'm sure they would fascinate me today as an old geezer.
Nothing too crazy about that... think of how the myths and legends of old were handed down- mostly orally... epics, tales ect. Crazy that it was continued that recently though
Thanks for sharing this, Bobby! (I have to admit, I misread you name at first-I thought it said "Benny Hill" I was waiting for some kind of a joke! Thank you for giving this video the serious comment it deserves
The older man was born in 1835. 186 years ago in 2021. He was an adult in the 1850s and a retiree at the turn of the century. The stuff he's seen and lived through is incredible. Interesting how he talks pretty much the same as any old guy today.
At first, I thought the younger man on the right fought for the Union. It puzzled me as to how he might have seen General Lyon killed because Lyon was surrounded at the moment of his death. I have been to the exact spot on the Wilson's Creek battlefield where Lyon fell. It was not in the open, like on the crest of a hill, but in a dense place, where thickets have since grown. Then, as I listened it became clear that both of these men fought against the Union and he had seen Lyon from the perspective of the enemy.
I think that's probably the result of Hollywood depicting Civil War veterans in film or cartoons as toothless, doddering old men, nearly deaf, blind and waving their canes threateningly at "sonny" and "young whippersnappers."
Can you imagine these 2 old blokes fought in a war with horses,muskets,swords and muzzle loading canons and lived to see a war fought with airplanes,machine guns,poison gas and tanks!
The wars were not entirely different in the grand scheme of things. In fact, much of what happened in the Civil War (and Paraguayan War at the same time) foreshadowed WWI greatly because the methods of manufacturing weapons and technology in general that were used in WWI had just dawned at this time. The Civil War was the first truly devastating war which saw trench warfare, glider technology (apparently), and machine-type guns, or at least not your average guns. Paraguay was a complete genocide with the technology. The haughty Europeans noted this but thought it was typical of their ex-colonies or in backwater places not as civilized as them, which they considered to be the entire world. They never imagined it could come to their shores or that such a thing could be possible... but, WWI being 50 years after the Civil War, technology had become far more advanced and deadly and the stakes far greater. WWI was so horrific and unmatched that it made Europe question its own greatness/civilization and civilization in general.
@@Awakeningspirit20 In reference to your last point,maybe this is why Europe has lost the will to defend itself?A self loathing has enveloped Western Europa & pretty much the entire West.
@@Awakeningspirit20 I'm pretty big into military history (mostly WWII) and have never heard of trench warfare in the U.S. Civil War, I didn't believe you but after a cursory search there is indeed evidence of it (mostly during sieges). So thanks for that and the inevitable rabbit hole I'll be going down today! I've been so conditioned to seeing Civil War warfare as line battles in open fields that I didn't even consider that there were other tactics. It definitely makes sense for siegecraft.
Not exactly, many refer to the civil war as the first modern war. It changed warfare technology for the world. Steel, steam powered warships, hot air balloon recon, repeating rifles, even long range missiles
My grandfather is a vet from three wars. WWII, Korean and Vietnam. He was a great role model and took crap from nobody. He figured, if the Japanese navy couldn't kill him, why would he let anyone push him around. Tough as nails but very friendly and down to earth. 🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@rollingbear9789 God Bless you, love from Iran everyone deserves freedom from Tyrants. Whether our freedom from islam, or your freedom from Communism! Hopes and Prayers
@@timothymacpherson7452generations of human beings have been fooled by satanic forces, don't be so hard on them. For all you know both you and I are fooled just as much.
What stands out about this. 1. How good condition they are in at 94. 2. How the generals of old actually fought alongside their troops. 3. This dude not only knew the name of his general, but also the names of the two opposing soldiers who killed him. That takes the civil war to a whole new level.
General Lyon was their enemy, they knew the names of the soldiers who killed him because those guys were part of their unit. These guys are Confederate veterans, not Union.
Generals usually don’t fight along side their troops anymore for obvious reasons with their be being getting bombed by a plane. Yes, they’re in good shape at 94 and are most likely the outlier for their age group. Just like today.
@@yearginclarke I doubt it. They may be mouthing the words but the voices seem dubbed or augmented. You shuld see what they've done with some old ww2 films. Really incredible stuff.
@@schmingusss I've had an interest in WW1 and WW2 for a very long time, and I have seen some of the dubbing before, don't know much detail about it though. Also have seen some of the colorized/remastered footage of both wars that is simply amazing, really brings out the reality factor far better than the old B&W grainy, jumpy footage ever could. I wish we could hear these Civil war guy's actual voices.
@@whiltoecardhonian3054 they referred to fighting "the Dutch" the Dutchmen was in reference to the German Immigrants in the Union Army which means these men fought on the confederate side.
This is amazing. I'm an Aussie and was born in Melbourne Victoria. In 1835, the year the older boy in this video was born, Melbourne was established as just a gaggle of tents and campfires and a handful of people on the banks of the Yarra River. Same year, incredible. Today it's a city of over 5 million people. I'm 72 and I knew several old blokes from WW1 and a few Australia Light Horsemen from the Boer War in South Africa (1899 - 1902), but seeing quality footage of actual American Civil War veterans talking to each other is absolutely amazing.
Isn't it?? I'm an American, and it blows me away..seeing our current plight makes this especially haunting in a way. 6 years ago I would have laughed at the notion, now I am not so sure.
I've been to Melbourne 3 times and when you think of it and Sydney, as examples (and not the only ones) of global metropolises sprouting up in no time, you know why we have a climate and environmental crisis today.
In 2000 I had the honour to meet some Ozzie 2nd World War veterans going to Gallipoli to pay homage to fallen comrades in WW1, or the 'Great War' as some called it. I dont think anything about that war was great, but they were old and full of spirit and I feel privileged to have met them, especially for what they were doing. Amazing men.
Dad talked about seeing these guys when he was a kid. Stuff like this is the only chance I have to hear their accounts directly. I sure appreciate those who preserved this for posterity.
Your father is a very blessed man to have been able to talk to those guys. I would have loved to call both men Uncle. I feel blessed that I got to know WWI Vets. I feel blessed that I had WWII aged grandparents. Both of my grandfathers fought in WWII.
The account of General Lyon's death is amazing. From what I read, he was shot off his horse and died. No mention about what this man actually saw, which was that he was pulled from his horse and started fighting to the end, with rocks. and was shot. He even mentions the names of the man Lyon hit, and the one who shot him. Amazing first hand account of a Historical event.
I understand that we'd all like to believe the old fellow telling the story, but it simply isn't true. Lyon was shot while on horseback, with a musket ball passing through his upper ribcage while he was turning in the saddle to address his men. He was pulled from his horse by an aide, and died shortly after. In fact, the story about "Cole Camp" and the "250 Dutchman killed" is also untrue. This old guy was spinning yarns.
@@herecomesaregular8418 There is also memories coming together that spin a different narrative, we all have that once, where we remember something so vividly, it started creating what you saw, as something different than what happened. He very likely was talking about Germans he fought.
@@stevenmeadows6917 First-hand accounts are often incomplete, mistaken, or flat out exaggerated, and that problem gets worse the further away in years you get from the event. He could easily be an old man misremembering something from nearly 70 years prior, or be repeating a tale passed around camp about something he didn't witness himself. The American Civil War is pretty well documented by letters, memoirs, and official records, so it's not hard to cross-check his version against other sources.
These kind of witty folksy wholesome idioms are soon to be extinct from this world in less than 20 years and all we will have is our dumbed down homogenized politically correct ambiguously pro nouned nonsense left.
There's always a few who manage to make it to around that age throughout time; even today I think the key is to avoid needing medicine in the first place! Then it doesn't matter how modern it is 😄😄
@@compa6251 No, absolutely modern medicine has helped many to live longer lives, and take what would be a death sentence or at least crippling disability and turn it into something survivable if not trivial. The point is throughout history there are those who 'win the lottery' and manage to not suffer major injury, avoid critical illness and disease, not get cancer, have access to clean water and decent food, etc and thus live well though old age without needing significant medical intervention (At best they avoided the risks of going to a hospital where they might well become worse off.) Even without the advances of modern medicine there have been folks living into their 80's and 90's and beyond. And another point, even today those who end up having injuries, diseases, cancers, etc may not always benefit much from modern medical practice, at least not much more than what was available in the 1800's. Some things haven't moved forward all that much. To be fair as well, modern medicine really started in the 1800's or so, and what they had then isn't so far removed from what we practice today. Sure some stuff has been debunked or vastly improved on, but for common stuff what they were doing then was still pretty good.
My grandfather, a WWII veteran, had memories of seeing a handful of Civil War veterans in the 4th of July parades of his childhood. That has always made me think about just how much the world has changed in the past 150-200 years. The men in this video lived in a period when, for the first time in the thousands of years of human history, the fastest way to travel on land wasn't a horse, and the people of that era recognized this change for the amazing development that it was. And yet, people from that generation would live to see airplanes fighting over the skies of Europe, and their children weapons powerful enough to destroy all humanity.
@ Hatuletoh - Re: "My grandfather, a WWII veteran, had memories of seeing a handful of Civil War veterans in the 4th of July parades of his childhood. That has always made me think about just how much the world has changed in the past 150-200 years." That's so true, your observation about the world changing. My paternal grandparents were born at the end of the 19th century (late 1890s, grandfather) and dawn of the new century (1900, grandmother). I can clearly remember talking with them as a small boy and them relating how they saw an airplane or a motor car for the first time in the small rural southern town they called home. As kids, it was still common in those days to see folks moving about on horses, as not everyone could afford a car when they were new. My grandmother told of the wonderment of seeing an airplane for the first time, just before WWI. Yet, by the time they were elderly people in the 1970s, cars were commonplace, and men had walked on the moon. Can you imagine living through such changes? For the men of the WWII generation, the American Civil War (War Between the States) was about as far in the past - seventy-five years - as WWII is to the present day. Which means that for many of those young men, there would still have been very elderly survivors of that long-ago conflict still alive. It is especially true since in that war, the armed forces took boys into their ranks, in some cases as young as 10-12 years old if they looked older and could pass for a 15-16 year old.
I know. Now they call themselves "Marines" and fancy names like that, They attend dinner parties for the ladies and go to clubs. It is all about dressing up in uniform and rows of ribbons, boasting about "service".
@@peace-now I assume you're trolling. The US marines have been around since the late eighteenth century. There hasn't been a major war in seventy-five plus years, so I wouldn't expect most of "them" to be fighting like these men did. If you're talking about veterans, I don't see any reason to think they're more boastful than those of these men's generation.
I did that with my grandpa, he died on 2021, served on the italian front, i didn't record it, but have plenty of pages about, one day i want to write about it.
I knew one who didn't see combat but actually got to do maintenance on the Enola Gay he gave me a picture of himself next to the plane before the bombs were dropped. He passed away in 2015 I believe. His neighbor was another WWII vet who I believe was more active in combat but in Europe, also passed.
My grandfather on my mothers side, who is passed now, could have told some stories if he would have. He must have really been in the shit, so to speak. He was in the Philippines and came home with 3 confimed kills. A Bronze Star and a Silver Star, among other decorations in his two boxes of medals, etc. Oh.... and malaria, too. Also reaching rank of Master Sargent during the span of the Pacific Conflict. Yet he would not talk about it...period. And I do know when I was born that he told some people that he wished I had been a girl so I would never see war(this was 1976 when women in military was fairly rare still). I do know that one of his kills was right in his camp one night after being out on watch he came in and was shaving in front of a makeshift sink and mirror when he caught a glimpse of a Japanese soldier in the little mirror, with a large knife in hand. Grandpa played it cool and continues the act of shaving, knowing his rifle is at arms length. He lets the Japanese soldier get about 4 or 5 feet from him where the length of the rifle is an advantage over the knife. Then he drops everything, grabs his rifle spins, and bayonets the Japanese soldier in the chest. There was almost no sound, and he was alone there with the first human being he killed. That's not a story I would enjoy telling either. My grandmother said that he told her that soon after coming home and never told anyone again. My dad said he told him of being pinned down in swamp and rice patty, by Japanese forces at a stalemate for 27 days. When they finally managed to get free, his boots had to be cut off and socks peeled from his feet with the skin. He developed cancer in 1998 and in his weakened state malaria returned to him from the 1940s Philippines, and that is what ultimately ended his life. It sickens me to think what so many Americans have gone through to build just so today's generation can be free to tear it all down.
I recorded sound interviews with Australian veterans of WWII who had fought in the middle east and the Pacific for the 2/14 Battalion Association and La Trobe University in Melbourne. Sadly they are all gone now but their words will live on.
I was saddened to see the video end so quickly. It would have been great to hear more about their experiences. This is the first time that I hear a first hand account of the Civil War.
Just be thankful that there is Any footage of these men at all. I'd certainly like to hear more of their memories of life in general but am glad to have been able to watch this snippet.
They are at an event. The music is not "added". It's the actual background music being played at the event during this interview. You can also hear the chatter of voices of the people near them.
@@commontater8630 . There are times when I'm wrong in making an observation, and generally I'm glad to be corrected as it means I'm now am better informed. By the tone and venom of your comment I can see that perhaps decades go by without you ever being wrong . I get the feeling that perhaps at times you call your wife/ partner or your kids a dope as well. I wonder what they call you when you err. Perhaps it begins with an A and ends with an E. Certainly you don't mind receiving a reply like this as you have a certain flair at being snotty when its not called for. Take note of the reply to me from destubaE below. He corrected my error with precision and grace, which from reading your reply would seem to be a concept your parents neglected to show you the value of.
It’s crazy to think that WW2 vets that are still alive today could have spoken to these Civil War vets, who in turn could have talked to Revolutionary War vets. It’s amazing how such major events in American and world history overlap with human generational lifespans. I wish we could go through time and hear all of these stories from these incredible individuals.
when ever I go to the va hospital for a appt, I make a point of striking up a friendship with a old soldier, the last time it was a korean war vet, I talked to him about a hr, he said I was the first person who ever showed any interest in talking to him, most walked by when they seen his hat said korean war vet, and wasnt interested in talking to a korean war vet, thats said they should all have people willing to talk to them if they are open to conversation, I always let them kinda led the conversation after I say hello tell them some about me, and that I was a Combat medic
@@hannahwalmer1124 Nah! Many men served in World War II who were born before 1921. Like 1910 or so as well. In fact, the oldest age you could be drafted in World War II was 44! And men were! But 35 was the standard cut off. In fact, prior to Pearl Harbor, which saw the draft age lowered from 21 (which was the legal age of adulthood then) to 18 the Selective Service Act mandated that during the draft, the OLDEST went first!
Love watching this. My dad's aunt just turned I think 106 and her sister is 101 I believe and both fairly sharp. It's amazing to think that none of us will ever experience the changes that they have. My grandfather was plowing fields with horses when he started farming and survived the battle of the bulge in ww2 he passed in 2010. He never did talk about what he witnessed in the war. It's crazy how much has technology happened in such a short amount of time.
The General Price they mention was a Confederate general. He was a traitor of both the United States and of humankind for wanting to keep the institution of slavery of black people. These people don't deserve an ounce of admiration.
This video should NOT disappear! We are currently seeing two civil war veterans having a conversation talking about the war! And to think this was over a 100+ years ago! Truly a fascinating piece of history where all newcomers should watch!
@@bonsummers2657 The Civil War was over 100 years ago. That's what they are referring to. Some children like to say it's "nearly 200 years ago" though.
I always love these historic recordings of people who tell their life story. It also makes me sad to know that many great stories and even just everyday life stories were never recorded and are now lost forever. That’s why I recently interviewed my grandparents (both born during WWII, now in their 80’s). I asked them many questions about their lives and the stories they remembered from their parents and grandparents. I now have something like 7 or 8 hours of voice recordings of them reminiscing together. I can recommend doing this to anyone!
@@shiverarts8284 they were courageous young men who were willing to die for a cause they believed in. I’d say that honorable commitment deserves respect. Such as many WW2 German soldiers were not aware of the concentration camps, many confederates were not fighting for slavery. Instead, many were simply fighting for their families and their individual states’ regiments with very little political or racial motive. For many (but not all) it was merely a sense of duty and service to their homeland, the south.
@@shiverarts8284 i think a lot of confederates believed the war would be over in that time. When their conscription was up lot of troops naturally wanted to return home. That wasn’t feasible so the confederacy changed to mandatory service. I dont think that makes them disgraceful, in fact there were many willing to fight until “the end of the war” and there some who held out for a little while after. Ultimately these men fought and died for something they believed in.
@@golfwangattack no it's still disgraceful. Fighting for Americas original sin, slavery. Everyone knew it, and im pretty sure they knew what they were fighting for. They were not complete idiots.
My dad was born in 1933. There’s a picture of him with two of his great grandfathers on the front porch of his grandparents house. Both were civil war veterans and both were in major engagements like Gettysburg. One was a drummer and the other was an infantryman.
I was 19 when my great grandmother died. She was 92 and still sharp as a tack until the end. Born in 1887 she saw 5 wars, the automobile and plane invented, a Great Depression and man walking on the moon. What a great life.
@@Mrtaco5202 Slavery was certainly wrong but the reason we perceive a right side in the conflict is because the north capitalized on the moral dilemma of emancipation as a strategy. If the war were to have happened 30 years later slavery might not have been an issue as the south may have had the opportunity to do away with slavery without federal intervention and our perceptions on the conflict would probably be very different. No doubt there would have still been a war!
This video is an absolute treasure. The fact that it survived during all this time and is now immortalized on the internet is nothing short of ordinary.
We’re not really *that* far removed though if you think about it A ‘normal’ human can easily live 90-100 years We’re less than two of that time span removed from the war, it’s a short enough time that there are some people alive today who have memories of interacting with people who fought in the war
I have the opposite feeling: it shows how short 100 years actually is. Once you've lived to hit your 70s, it hits you: I'm much closer to 100 than I was to when I was born. My mother once told me that she remembered when Edison died (1931) and the country, including her parents, turned their lights off for one minute in tribute to him. I was struck that I knew someone (Mom) who "knew" someone (Edison) who was a teen during the Civil War. Were she still alive, Mom would be 100 this year. To think I knew someone who could go back 100 years in time! That is exactly what this video was about, two old soldiers going back about 65 years in time, like it was yesterday. Amazing!
@@demef758 Yes. My grandmother told me many stories too. And, it's amazing that 2 men from opposing military groups, that mutilated each other during a war, can sit back and discuss it with each other years later. Same thing with WWI and II. Look at us being kind a friendly towards each other from over seas, doing business and so on, when we were mortal enemies (as it were) with Germany and others. And after these wars, nothing really changed. We became more civil and moral (mostly) and can discuss issues instead of nations leaders turning civilians into soldiers, sending them to fight and die for reasons that you don't go dying for. All those issues could have been avoided. They began, over small, person to person conflicts. Then, the conflicts escalated, bringing in others on both sides to fight for a cause that they couldn't even come to a conclusion of what the war started in the first place. Both WWI and II, as well as the civil war started that way.
When this was filmed in 1929, these two were 64 years past the end of the Civil War. Today, our surviving WW II veterans are already 76 years past the end of that war. We need to appreciate all the WW II veterans' stories as well, before they are lost as they pass away.
I find this incredible. This was recorded nearly 100 years ago, and these 2 gentlemen (who were elderly then), are sharing first hand Civil War experiences. I wish I could talk to them, continue the conversation and ask questions. Thanks for uploading this!
I wish video recording was invented much earlier so we could have seen what life was like for a revolutionary war veteran and we could also have heard about the life of a Hindu under the Mughal rule, more than 400 years ago
@@Onetruenugget Somebody 400 years from now will be like "I wish they hadn't invented video recording so early now we have to watch all these bad movies and twerking clips."
In college I once got to hear audio of an actual Confederate soldier belting out the rebel yell. He was 83, sitting beside his son at a Civil War veterans gathering as his son attempted to reenact the rebel yell. The attempt was okay, but the father, at 83, let loose with that honest to goodness rendition and it was among the most bone chilling sounds I've ever heard.
On December 16, 2020, Helen Viola Jackson died at age 101. She was the last widower who was collecting a pension check from her Civil War husband. At age 17 in 1936 she married 93 year old Civil War Veteran James Bolin. Direct connection to Civil War is not far off.
My grandfather was 37 when this was filmed..Talking with him was like talking to a history book...He recalled to me when the first model T rolled into town, backfired and horses ran in every direction...He lived into the late seventies and saw men plant Old Glory on the moon....Love you and miss you grandpa..❤
The "General Lyon" the one soldier is referring to is an interesting character. Nathaniel Lyon was a staunch unionist and abolitionist, who kicked the confederates out of Missouri almost single handily and chased the pro confederate governor out as well. He would disguise himself as an old lady and sneak into enemy camps to gain intel. Interestingly before he died in battle he reported to his superior officers that he had no confidence in giving a military position to a then obscure 39 year old former soldier. And that soldier was soon to be General Ulysses S. Grant.
Lyon never kicked anyone out of Missouri, was killed at Wilson's Creek, his forces defeted, then Gen. Price and the Missourians went north to Lexington and defeated the Yankees there also. Lyon was just another Northener who helped to invade an independent State to murder and plunder.
@@richty3845 The historical consensus is that Lyons actions effectively destroyed the Confederate's ability to occupy Missouri after Lyon defended St. Louis and beat the confederate sympathetic homeguard in Boonville, so I dont know what you're talking about how he "never kicked out anyone"
I’m within an hour’s drive of Wilson’s Creek Battlefield. I went to see it and walk it’s grounds a year or more ago. It made the hair stand up on my arms to see the gentleman in this clip telling about being in the battle there. I don’t think I had heard about General Lyon fighting with rocks before he was killed… I hate that interesting details like that have been lost to time. I’m glad I stumbled onto this video this morning..
In this great span of time, none of this was really that long ago. My Dad, who is doing great at the ripe ol' age of 107, remembers watching Civil War Veterans marching in 4th of July parades when he was a kid. Some he says also rode in open touring cars. He also saw Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, and Harvey Firestone. My Grand Father was born in 1878 and survived fighting in the front-line trenches of WW1 for 3 years. Of my 4 Great Grand Fathers, two fought in the Civil War. One was born in 1840, and fought in the Battle of Solferino, as a 2nd Lieutenant of Lancers in 1859. In 1863 he came to America and joined the 15th North Carolina Infantry, Co. L, CSA. He fought in the Battle of Kennesaw Mountain, and was later captured at Marietta, Georgia, spending the rest of the war as a prisoner at Camp Morton, Indianapolis, Indiana. Another Great Grand Father was a Captain of Red Shirt Volunteers under Gen. Garibaldi during the wars for Italian Unification. He also came to America and fought in the Civil War as an officer of the 39th U.S.C.T., and fought in the Battles of Petersburg, The Crater, and Ft. Fisher.
I remember my dad telling me a story his dad told him. When my grandfather was growing up in NYC he would occasionally watch parades. He told my father there would be Civil War and Spanish American War veterans marching or at least what was left of them. My grand father was born in 1923 so you could probably guess those men from both the USA and CSA were well on their way to naturally meeting God. But to know that my grandfather observed maybe a parade or two with men from so long ago participating is truly remarkable to me.
That is correct. My mom told me that the civil war vets were always marching in the back. I assume that's because they were old and could slow things down if they were up front. They were old men with white hair and long white beards. This was in the 1920's and some of the 1930's. My dad remembered civil war vets in front of stores, begging for money. These were the injured ones missing legs, or issues like that. There was no meaningful welfare back in those days.
I live 35 miles from where the battles took place. Stood on the battlefield and you can feel it. Went up to hill where general lyons was killed. You can feel history
Indeed. I stood on the same ground General Washington had his command post setup in Virginia, and drank from the same creek he drank from. It was a deeply emotional experience to say the least. I felt like he was standing right there.
Amazing ! My great-grandfather was a child / slave of about 6 or 7 in 1861. My grandfather used to tell us what he heard from his father. Would be interesting to find former slaves speaking from their perspective about life as these two gentlemen do. The Smithsonian does have voice recollections of slaves. Another reason why we should make sure history is never "cancelled" because it hurts the feelings of others 100 years later. Let it speak for itself so generations later on can hear it from the mouth of those who were there. Thank God for this footage.
Look up Fountain Hughes o YT. There are other former slave interviews on YT as well. Just use the keyword former slave interview. The Fountain Hughes interview is quite interesting. He talks about in one interview ( depending which one you find) about how when the slaves were set free that the firmer owners gave them a choice to stay or go their own way. When they went their own way, they were given what was needed to survive with..... only to have the Union sodiers to dump the items in the river as they were not allowed to keep anything from their former owner....... go figure
ua-cam.com/video/fZfcc21c6Uo/v-deo.html Thank you for being so wise! History can't be cancelled, and shouldn't be re-written because it might offend someone who has no connection to said history! 🙄😐 We need to keep our history alive, whether it be good, bad or disgusting. It's the only way we learn and improve society for everyone. Lately, seems like a lot of people have forgotten. 🧐😔
I always think it's a great pity that the camera wasn't invented a good few thousand years earlier. Imagine watching similar interviews with, say, soldiers from the Roman legions.
They likely have had something like that. Dont take his story so seriously. You be surprised what we had over 100 years ago Electric cars. Electric scooters. Flying trash cans. Monowheel motorcycles. Hydrogen motors. Househeld Radiation heaters and electricity producers. Derigibles that could carry over 100's of people like small cities in the skys. What did we have 100 years before that? Theres technology's that we are rediscovering and using today. History is just that. The story of the victor. His story. Not ours. People get paid to play, you see it now. Its sad.
I grew up in Kansas and met a man named Wally Latimer. In 1984 when I met him, he was 101 years old. I was 13 at the time and listened to him go on about the old west and traveling by covered wagon. I was amazed at his tales and experiences. He drank a bottle of beer a day and was still getting around like a young man. Unbelievably He was still actively farming. He was on Johnny Carson a coupe times I believe. What an honor it was to learn about history directly from a person who lived it.
some people just dont die. there are people living perfectly healthy yet they die at a young age and then there are people drinking and smoking reaching 100+
25 years ago: Noted ‘Kansas philosopher’ dies at 107 NEWS FEB 11, 2014 - 12:00AM SARAH ST. JOHN From the Lawrence Daily Journal-World for Feb. 11, 1989: In Lyons, Kansas, noted Kansan Wally Lattimer died today at the age of 107. Lattimer had made appearances on “The Tonight Show” four times near his 97th, 98th, 99th, and 100th birthdays, but had begun turning down Johnny Carson’s requests after that. “It was an honor to start with,” Lattimer had said at the time. “But I just had enough of running out there. He’s a nice guy, but I can see why he’s been divorced so often. I wouldn’t want to live with him.” Lattimer had also appeared twice on the show “Hee Haw” to dispense his particular brand of humor and down-home advice. He was proud of his record of voting in presidential elections and said he hadn’t missed one since his first vote in 1904 for Teddy Roosevelt. About three years previously, he had offered some ideas about how to achieve the longevity he had attained. In addition to his advice never to snack between meals, never to sleep more than six hours a night, and to drink in moderation, he also recommended taking life one day at a time. “I very seldom get mad,” he added, “and when I do you wouldn’t know it. You just ruin your own self that way.”
Born and raised in Missouri I was taught on battle strategies of General Price growing up. How cool is it to be hearing these two men referring to him! History is truly worth preserving at all cost!
My paternal grandma once told me that as a child, she would wrap herself in her grandpa's army coat when she went on wintertime sleigh rides. That grandfather was a union army veteran, so the coat would have been a blue federal great coat. My mom told me that HER mom would sometimes sing "Marching Through Georgia," not because my grandma was some kind of Civil War or history buff but because it was a song she had heard sung by her grandpa, whose regiment served under Gen. William T. Sherman. The Civil War really wasn't that long ago.
It's hard for me to wrap my head around the men that actually fought in the Civil War still being around for a talking interview on film! Two completely different eras merged together in front of me! Really cool, thanks whoever you are
How about going from horses in the Civil War to Lindbergh's flight to Paris? They watched Civil War battle tactics and later could read about airplane battles in WWI.
Yeah.... How about this? They went from a time when there wasn't electricity, radio, telephones, automobiles, airplanes, fans, air conditioning, to a time when it all existed. Think about that for a moment.
One of my professors who taught me in seminary (I am still in school so this was not long ago) was a WWII veteran and told me stories about the times he met and spoke with Civil War veterans. It was so incredible to listen to his stories and him recall what they said about the battles, the people they met and fought with, and he saw their battle wounds. The last time my professor saw some of them, they actually got dressed in their Civil War uniforms and took their rifles and swords and marched in a parade when they were in their late 80's and early 90's. Then he told us about his time in WWII and being in Japan. The stories I heard in class a couple of years ago were incredible. I am going to use some of the stories as sermon illustrations when I get a church again.
I think it’s kinda cool hearing about brave men from both world wars looking up to the soldiers of older wars and how the veterans of older wars got to see the new wars and technology.(Even if it would be used to kill each other.)
@@stuartbear922 This applies for today too, since this was a civil war, not a regular war. Which means the outcome decides the course of the country, forever. You fight for the outcome you want, and you never stop fighting. Because the other outcome is complete annihilation of your way of life. For better or worse.
Age is a number, old is a mindset. You'd be surprised how spry and active people are into their 90's. As a nurse I've met some feisty and agile ninjas in their 90's that will knock you one, lol.
I was at the Wilson Creek Visitor Center last week and the staff did not know of this film clip. Their research said General Lyon was shot on his horse and fell into an aide's arms. This veteran says he was there and even names the soldier, John Morgan, who shot Lyon as well as the weapon, "an old fashioned horse pistol". He would have been 16 or 17 at the time. Send the staff this clip.
Last Civil War Veteran died in 1956, so yes my parents probably crossed paths with a Civil War vet at sometime or another. They were both born in 1932.
@@jogman262 1956? My goodness, what a ginormous jump forward he lived through in the modernization of society and the way wars are fought. I wonder how he must’ve felt hearing about the airborne troops parachuting into Normandy.
My dad was born in the early 1930s. There was a confederate veterans home in our town, and when he was little, he said he remembered the old confederate veterans, some missing limbs, smoking pipes and talking downtown. Of course, he remembered the limbless as a child standing out in his mind most. His great grandfathers (my great-greats) all fought for the Confederacy. That same veterans home was Jeff Davis’ last home and now a museum. My next door neighbor’s mom worked there, and as a kid, we got to play (handle and manipulate and even wear) actual weapons and gear behind the scenes and play on the grounds. There are several hundred confederate vets buried in the confederate cemetery there.
@@finchborat it’s changed over the decades. 40 years ago the grounds were filled with old buildings and quarters, carriage house and nothing modern. The hurricanes and time have changed its vibe some what. Most of the old buildings are gone. Now there’s a huge modern museum and bookstore/gift shop, etc. It’s a good thing, change. But also my youth there has been relegated to the pages of history like the old grounds themselves. That being said, it’s still very well done, outstanding staff, and dedicated to American historical preservation and I recommend. The old home, graveyard and library are still there. They saved/protected a lot and reconstructed what they couldn’t salvage from Katrina. Did a great job.
As a guy who lives in Springfield, Missouri and grew up in the area - it's an honor to hear this. That's an incredible eye-witness. A lot of ghosts still walk Wilson's Creek. Nathaniel Lyon, I had no idea he was such a badass - I'm glad I got to spend so much time walking the area.
My ggg grandfather was a Civil War veteran and was still living at the time this wonderful footage was taken. He was one of the last veterans known to have been living in Indiana when he died. He was an Englishmen who was the only one of his family who came to America. He fought in the Battle of the Wilderness and was taken prisoner. He was consequently one of the last people who personally experienced that horrible camp that died.
“We didn’t enlist for a month or a year, we enlisted for the War.” I don’t know if there’s anything more loyal and brave than that mindset but God rest their souls and may the World find true peace one day.
Just so you know, the confederate army literally made it impossible to not be enlisted for the duration. Even people who had 3 year service terms saw those get bumped to "indefinite", especially after Georgia determined it wasn't going to send its troops beyond its borders, and Tennessee started turning on the confederacy.
@@Trev0Rear Loyal to the Confederacy. Which, later on, forced all soldiers to have an "indefinite" enlistment, tuning three and one year enlistments into "indefinite" ones.
My parents were from south-central Missouri, born during the Great Depression. Mom's family came from Bavaria in the 1820's, settled in Vienna,, MO, and the family bloodline was still 100% German in the 1930's when she was born. My father was of English and Cherokee descent. Mom's family called him a "yankee, " and dad referred to my mom as a "stubborn Dutchman." It was fun for me to hear these old soldiers making "dutchman" references.
My great great grandmother had 2 older brothers that fought for the Union in the civil war from Cedar county Missouri, they were also Bavarian decent. There must have been alot of people of Bavarian decent in that particular part of Missouri at that time. One of 2x great grandmas brothers was a calvary rider who went out on patrol and got shot and killed somewhere on the Kansas border. The brother that was K.I.A. was mentioned in her obituary dated from the 1930's. One of my relatives has a letter she wrote sometime during the civil war also where she mentions somthing about soldiers coming through her family farm and butchering all their chickens and livestock but she doesn't specify if they were union or confederate. That guy in the video mentions killing Dutch but wonder if he meant "Deutsch" or the german word for german, alot people confuse that word thinking it means Dutch. Guess they were confederate since I think Missouri was a split state between the two. I think there was alot of settlers in Missouri from the slave states so guess the politics were fairly divided there.
@@lairbear6992 While officially a part of the Union, Missouri had its share of Confederate sympathizers; arguably more than Unionists. Go anywhere south of St. Louis today, and everyone speaks with a drawl. As for the "Deutch" of Missouri, there is a HUGE contingent of German descendants here. The region west of St. Louis that starts at the Missouri River and extends through mid-state is called the Missouri Weinstrasse, along Hwy 94. Many Germans grew grapes and its known as the 1st viticultural region in the nation. My maternal family line has names like Sandbothe, Redel, Kerner, Bauer.
@@lairbear6992 I think he means “German” when he says “Dutch” as the latter name would have been more commonly used at that time to denote the former. The Missouri Home Guards which were massacred at Cole Camp, MO were referred to as “Dutch” and this is who he mentions at first. It sounds as if he was one of them men involved in this massacre.
Im 70 watching from Australia. What i liked about watching these two great guys was the fact they did not live in a digital age . I liked it when things were simpler. But respect to there bravery .
My great grandmother was just 8 years old when this was filmed. Truly puts things into perspective, the same way you could hear stories of WW2 as a child from the elderly in this era you could just as well hear about the Civil War from the elderly
Shoot, my mom graduated college when this was filmed. You must be whippersnappers. 🤣 PS, I'm mid 60s. My WWII stories were from my parents, one North, one South, who met and married during the war.
Wow. I am speechless! I love reading about the Civil War but hearing voices and seeing men who actually fought in it? Totally different perspective! Thank you!
I love this, it makes me feel like they were talking yesterday it seemed so.... Present idk. Like the fact they're still so able minded and bodied is incredible. Either way, I feel as if I'll be at that stage of life soon enough. There lives flashed before there eyes with so much story, I feel like my life will be played out within a blink similarly. I'll be like them, sitting there recapping some of the best heroic stories from a past that will soon be a point in history. I just hope I am anything near as strong willed as these old boys. Lots of love and respect for this, thank you.
Imagine going from horseback, candle light, and muskets, to Cars & planes, electric lights, and belt fed machine guns. That's one hell of a progression within one lifetime. These guys were already past 25 when the Indian wars raged out west, and lived to see the begining of the nazi Party's rise. Not to mention the Spanish American War and WW1 in between. It's amazing!!
they'll say the same about us. I'm not even 50 and get incredulous looks from kids when I say we used to have maps as there was no such thing as gps. my daughter can't grasp the idea of no mobile phones, no internet.
I was in the Army as a medic training to be an LPN at Ft Sam Houston, TX back in 1995. I took care of a lady who was in her mid 90s then. She told me that her father in law was a Colonel in the Civil War. She explained that she had married a veteran (the son) who had a pension who was in his late 60s and she was a young girl (I think she said 17). His father had served in the Union Army as a Colonel during the war! I was amazed given the war ended 130 years before.
My goodness, has school taught you anything? People have been able to live that long and longer for thousands of years, without modern medicine. It’s not nearly as crazy as you think
I'm near 60 years old and was recently looking at the skyline of a city I was familiar with when I was young. I mentioned the change of look of the place but my friend said it's 40 years so what do you expect? Then I got thinking that a person my age now back then would have the same feeling when remembering the city in WW2. Vividly like it wasn't really too long ago with the thoughts about it in your memory still feeling valid. But I would have been oblivious to their memories. Then I did a thought experiment by going back in 40 year leaps. Now - new tall modern commercial buildings in the formerly old looking city of Liverpool England. I worked in a couple of them. Times 2 - German planes raining death and destruction on that city Times 3 - 1901, no planes, radio and few cars. My country ruled half the world. Times 4 - the war these men in the video fought in. Times 5 - Beethoven giving a concert. Times 6 - The United States does not yet exist and the territory is ruled by my country.
When U write "My Country Ruled..." Only your Monarch & Family may make such a claim, All others were born under the Crown & thus Bend the Knee. Those Born under USA Flag & Outer Space Flag stand Free in Their Country.
Excellent thought exercise! Reflection is an important thing for a human being. I'm going to Germany next summer for a reunion of my US Army company from the 1980s. Back then, I met an older American gentleman who had fought through that town in 1945, helping take the bridge over the Danube River. He'd come back after 38-40 years to see what things looked like and revisit those dramatic times. Next year when I return, I'll be looking back at a town I first encountered in 1983, i.e. 39 years ago. The shoe is now on the other foot :-)) The world keeps on turning, doesn't it?
92 years now when this was filmed and here you are watching this. Imagining time traveling and telling them both that 92 years from now, people are still going to watch this. Mind blown.
What a treat! I remember spending time with my Great grandmother in the 1990s and she was born in 1907! She taught me card tricks but I wish I could go back and ask her a million questions. Before this was filmed she had already sailed from Ireland to Australia with her Elder brother, his wife, their children, her mother and her three older siblings. Her father (my Great-Great Grandfather) had died at sea at the ripe old age of 28 shortly after she was born.
Exactly, and what’s more, it is possible that some old man today had his grandfather born a slave… Born in 1860, fathered a child at 70 in 1930… Just unbelievable
Sadly an even worse form of slavery is going on today, it is called sex trafficking, and is being funded by wealthy powerful people in places of power in our own country even, but it is all covered up by the those in power as well.
@@CapitaineBleuten My grandpa's great-grandfather was a freed man in adulthood, but we don't know whether or not he was born enslaved or not. He was born almost exactly 100 years apart from my grandpa, who is sitting downstairs watching TV
I love this channel and the comments section. No jokers no nasty fights just like minded history buffs discussing these events. I swear I can count on one hand how many channels I go to are on this list. I just wanted to say I appreciate you all here.
The generation gaps between families are not very large. My grandparents were born in 1902. Their grand parents fought in the Civil War, and their grand parents fought in the war of 1812 and American Revolution.
@@kfrausto - Real History being spoken from those that were there to share and not from some moldy history book but from the real thing..like those telling us of WW1,WW2 and Korea..glad someone was able to film these men back then..
This right here is why the Civil War is one of my favorite times in history and one of the reasons why I became a history major in college. I truly hope everyone who reads this comment or watches this video, takes a minute to truly grasp how lucky we are to have a piece of this momentous time in history.
They weren’t civil war vets, but my memories of the old timers in my family who fought in WW1 and WW2 sounded just like those men. Steadfast and brave, and thankful for a good dinner when one came around. My hat is off to them.
I really hope people grasp how incredible and important this is. Literally watching and listening to two men who fought in the Civil War speak. Technology is an amazing thing.
Not too many, unfortunately. They are allowing statues of The Reconciliation to be torn down; the very thing that probably made these two ex-Confederates so amiable.
I had two gg-grandfathers who both served as confederate soldiers together from the same county in NC. Both were wounded at the battle of Gettysburg. One of them was taken prisoner by the Union army and released by prisoner exchange 2 years later. I obtained his military records from the Washington DC military archives. Such interesting history.
@@NiePieerdol Uh. Ok. I have a constant ringing in my ears, but don't lump us all in with mental problems, therapy, and PTSD. Although, this ringing is insufferable and I would not wish it on anybody.
@@NiePieerdol there were those in all wars who came back shattered men. Watch clips from WW1 shell shocked victims. No-one walks away unchanged from war.
It's great that they recorded this. How awesome would it have been to actually get to talk to an actual Civil War veteran? I used to work at the local National Guard armory in the mid-1980s and there was a group of World War I veterans that used to come there to meet a couple times a month. I wish I would have been able to sit with them and hear their stories. It would have been better than reading any history book or watching any documentary on TV.
Thats an old timey thing to put an "a" or "uh" sound on the end of an "i". Lots of old timers would call Cincinnati Cincinnatuh or Hawaii Hawaiuh. Very common here in the Midwest for those say...75 or older. Dont know why.
That's crazy, I live about 30 min from Warsaw and about 20 min from Cole Camp. Never knew there was such intense presence and fighting in this particular area.
They seen full auto as well. I mean they had the gatling gun back then but when WW1 game they had the Lewis Gun, MP sub machine gun. So yeah they witnessed guns evolving.
This is amazing historical footage. Thank you for sharing it. The ages of these men at the time of filming and how well they can speak and "have their mental faculty" is impressive. My Grandfather was in WW2, he never spoke to us children about it, and if a military movie was on the TV when he walked in you had to change the channel. Sad.
PL: Many of that generation were like that, they never talked about what they had to endure. They just came home and went to work, started families and kept the stories for their buddies down at the VFW.
My uncle whom was a WW2 vet said that he saw Vets from the civil war, when he was a kid marching during July 4th, probably Former Union Soldiers, then WW1 Vets, as the Civil War Vets passed. Just like us, Vietnam Vets are in their 70,s now.
I remember a letter in a magazine some decades ago from a man who recalled as a very young boy watching a veterans parade, when a very old man came over to him and asked to shake his hand. He did, and the man told him he was a Civil War vet who had seen a Revolutionary War veteran when he was a child and shook his hand. The Civil War vet told him not to forget he was only two handshakes away from the start of the country. I always wanted to shake that writer's hand. It's unbelievable to think even today, we could still be just three handshakes away from 1776.
Very interesting, thanks.
And to think we're already a dying empire.. Has to be the quickest rise and fall in history.
Capitalism had many benefits however the founding fathers should have insisted the people vote to overhaul and amend the top 10 functions of government they want to add or eliminate every 10 years! Imagine if the people had the power to remove lobbying and corporate bribery of election campaigns and eliminate medical bankruptcy!
Or demand 4 year elections of the Supreme Court justices..
It was a good Sprint we had 😉
@@rrpearsall DYING empire? When was the Empire of the United States of America BORN? lol. Who were our emperors?
@@shinobi-no-bueno Huh.. the British, Spanish Empire had a king and queen.. wasn't labelled as Emperor.. Are you the contrarian type to deny Tom Brady as a football player bc where's the Soccer Ball?
@@rrpearsall the first has to die to make ready for the second, this was only a test run
The “Dutch” to whom he refers were actually German-Americans.
They told Missourians that they were “Deutsch,” which was misunderstood as “Dutch.”
The vast majority of German immigrants in Missouri were pro-union, while quite a few of their neighbors were not.
Missouri had its own civil war within the civil war, kind of.
@@italia689 True.
@@italia689 May you please send me information where I can read more about this?
@@trackthompson My replies are erased.
There was a large Dutch (Netherlands) population in Michigan which fought in the the war, are you sure they weren’t talking about them?
Really makes you realize that the Civil War really wasn’t THAT long ago in the grand scheme of things
This was filmed in 1929 and that was 92 years ago. The Civil War had been over for 64 years at the time this was filmed.
There are people alive today with first person recollections of knowing civil war veterans- that is amazing
@John C. Haines A state's right to have people owned as slaves.
@@natedog1619 Hmm... never heard of anyone from the north refer to themselves as a "Yank". Remind me, where were you on January 6th, 2021?
@John C. Haines The secession declarations that various states published explicitly said it WAS about slavery.
93 years ago that guy was 94 meaning he was born 187 years ago in 1836 and we can hear him speak. He was born before photography had been invented and Napoleon was still alive on St. Helena. This is amazing.
Napoleon died in 1821 from stomach cancer. Not quite that old. He was however, born in time to witness Napoleonic/War of 1812 veterans, including the infamous Sir Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington.
An Napoleon was alive in 1837 but not Napoleon I
his parents made him banging in the fields
When he was 94 in 1929,then he was born in 1835.
94 years old in 1929 means you are born in 1835
When I was a stupid kid in the early 1960's, I would get bored to tears listening to my 95-year-old great grandmother going on and on about life in the 1800s. She was born 4 years after the end of the civil war. She was one of the less than 2% of women who attended university. She had a successful career as dramatic storyteller. Filling small theaters and sometimes even large venues. Before silent movies, dramatic readings were evidently as popular as films are today. Crazy. I wish someone had recorded her long-winded tales. I'm sure they would fascinate me today as an old geezer.
Nothing too crazy about that... think of how the myths and legends of old were handed down- mostly orally... epics, tales ect. Crazy that it was continued that recently though
Thanks for sharing this, Bobby! (I have to admit, I misread you name at first-I thought it said "Benny Hill" I was waiting for some kind of a joke! Thank you for giving this video the serious comment it deserves
And then there's your Dad, always going on an on about propane, I bet.
@@wzpu3283 dude you beat me to it!😂
@@wzpu3283 F#©k no. He was a Kingsford Charcoal Briquets man. Mom badgered him into using a gas grill because of "the environment!"
The older man was born in 1835. 186 years ago in 2021. He was an adult in the 1850s and a retiree at the turn of the century. The stuff he's seen and lived through is incredible. Interesting how he talks pretty much the same as any old guy today.
At first, I thought the younger man on the right fought for the Union. It puzzled me as to how he might have seen General Lyon killed because Lyon was surrounded at the moment of his death. I have been to the exact spot on the Wilson's Creek battlefield where Lyon fell. It was not in the open, like on the crest of a hill, but in a dense place, where thickets have since grown. Then, as I listened it became clear that both of these men fought against the Union and he had seen Lyon from the perspective of the enemy.
Amazing he is 94. He doesn’t look a day over 93.
"Around here, you don't retire until you die."--Zebulon Walton
I think that's probably the result of Hollywood depicting Civil War veterans in film or cartoons as toothless, doddering old men, nearly deaf, blind and waving their canes threateningly at "sonny" and "young whippersnappers."
Imagine. They lived to see an airplane and ride in a car. Talk on a telephone and listen to the radio. What a great video.
Can you imagine these 2 old blokes fought in a war with horses,muskets,swords and muzzle loading canons and lived to see a war fought with airplanes,machine guns,poison gas and tanks!
The wars were not entirely different in the grand scheme of things. In fact, much of what happened in the Civil War (and Paraguayan War at the same time) foreshadowed WWI greatly because the methods of manufacturing weapons and technology in general that were used in WWI had just dawned at this time. The Civil War was the first truly devastating war which saw trench warfare, glider technology (apparently), and machine-type guns, or at least not your average guns. Paraguay was a complete genocide with the technology. The haughty Europeans noted this but thought it was typical of their ex-colonies or in backwater places not as civilized as them, which they considered to be the entire world. They never imagined it could come to their shores or that such a thing could be possible... but, WWI being 50 years after the Civil War, technology had become far more advanced and deadly and the stakes far greater. WWI was so horrific and unmatched that it made Europe question its own greatness/civilization and civilization in general.
@@Awakeningspirit20 In reference to your last point,maybe this is why Europe has lost the will to defend itself?A self loathing has enveloped Western Europa & pretty much the entire West.
@@Awakeningspirit20 I'm pretty big into military history (mostly WWII) and have never heard of trench warfare in the U.S. Civil War, I didn't believe you but after a cursory search there is indeed evidence of it (mostly during sieges). So thanks for that and the inevitable rabbit hole I'll be going down today! I've been so conditioned to seeing Civil War warfare as line battles in open fields that I didn't even consider that there were other tactics. It definitely makes sense for siegecraft.
Not exactly, many refer to the civil war as the first modern war. It changed warfare technology for the world. Steel, steam powered warships, hot air balloon recon, repeating rifles, even long range missiles
@@Noah-rc3ip and a submarine
My grandfather is a vet from three wars. WWII, Korean and Vietnam. He was a great role model and took crap from nobody. He figured, if the Japanese navy couldn't kill him, why would he let anyone push him around. Tough as nails but very friendly and down to earth. 🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇸
My father did also WW2 in Asiac Pacific theater
As one of South Korea citizen,
I want to say thank you to your grandfather for his service by fighting for our freedom.
God bless you all. 🇰🇷 ❤ 🇺🇲
@@rollingbear9789 God Bless you, love from Iran everyone deserves freedom from Tyrants. Whether our freedom from islam, or your freedom from Communism! Hopes and Prayers
Wouldn't fight the Jews though
@@timothymacpherson7452generations of human beings have been fooled by satanic forces, don't be so hard on them. For all you know both you and I are fooled just as much.
What stands out about this.
1. How good condition they are in at 94.
2. How the generals of old actually fought alongside their troops.
3. This dude not only knew the name of his general, but also the names of the two opposing soldiers who killed him.
That takes the civil war to a whole new level.
General Lyon was their enemy, they knew the names of the soldiers who killed him because those guys were part of their unit. These guys are Confederate veterans, not Union.
Generals usually don’t fight along side their troops anymore for obvious reasons with their be being getting bombed by a plane.
Yes, they’re in good shape at 94 and are most likely the outlier for their age group. Just like today.
My brigade commander used to go across the wire to put rounds down range a lot. He was a full bird. Close enough.
Literally could be fighting your brother if you don’t agree with each other
Probably a lot of people knew each other‘s names
@@isnotmaybe That's a pretty rare occurrence, these guys only know the names of the soldiers because they were part of the same unit who killed Lyon.
Does anyone realize how amazing this is? You are watching two Civil War soldiers alive and well having a conversation
Got a smart ass in the replies
their voices are dubbed
@@schmingusss Is it their actual voices though?
@@yearginclarke I doubt it. They may be mouthing the words but the voices seem dubbed or augmented. You shuld see what they've done with some old ww2 films. Really incredible stuff.
@@schmingusss I've had an interest in WW1 and WW2 for a very long time, and I have seen some of the dubbing before, don't know much detail about it though. Also have seen some of the colorized/remastered footage of both wars that is simply amazing, really brings out the reality factor far better than the old B&W grainy, jumpy footage ever could. I wish we could hear these Civil war guy's actual voices.
Old men with clear minds. Nice to see that.
They should show this to Joe Biden. 😄🧠
To survive into old age in the 1920s and 30s you would've had to be tough as hell because life would've been unimaginably hard in your earlier years.
Never heard of alzheimers until 40 yrs ago. A lot of modern diseases did not exist in high amounts back then
Old people look different these days
@@tonypittsburgh9 They called a a second childhood back then and it happened.
“We didn’t enlist for a month or a year. We enlisted for the WAR” that is the most patriotic statement I’ve ever heard….
That was the way it was in WW2, as well.
So patriotic that they were both pardoned for treason.
Other than them being traitors
@@ccsuny2000 why are they traitors? You’re the second person to say that I must be missing something…
@@whiltoecardhonian3054 they referred to fighting "the Dutch" the Dutchmen was in reference to the German Immigrants in the Union Army which means these men fought on the confederate side.
This is amazing. I'm an Aussie and was born in Melbourne Victoria. In 1835, the year the older boy in this video was born, Melbourne was established as just a gaggle of tents and campfires and a handful of people on the banks of the Yarra River. Same year, incredible. Today it's a city of over 5 million people. I'm 72 and I knew several old blokes from WW1 and a few Australia Light Horsemen from the Boer War in South Africa (1899 - 1902), but seeing quality footage of actual American Civil War veterans talking to each other is absolutely amazing.
Isn't it?? I'm an American, and it blows me away..seeing our current plight makes this especially haunting in a way. 6 years ago I would have laughed at the notion, now I am not so sure.
I've been to Melbourne 3 times and when you think of it and Sydney, as examples (and not the only ones) of global metropolises sprouting up in no time, you know why we have a climate and environmental crisis today.
In 2000 I had the honour to meet some Ozzie 2nd World War veterans going to Gallipoli to pay homage to fallen comrades in WW1, or the 'Great War' as some called it. I dont think anything about that war was great, but they were old and full of spirit and I feel privileged to have met them, especially for what they were doing. Amazing men.
@@funkmasterdub They certainly were amazing men, my father barely survived WW2. It took a terrible toll on him.
@@funkmasterdub do you mean Aussies?
Dad talked about seeing these guys when he was a kid. Stuff like this is the only chance I have to hear their accounts directly. I sure appreciate those who preserved this for posterity.
Just remember this: any video you take today will be "historic" when you replay it 50 years later when you are in your 70s!
What were their names?
@@demef758 ?? 120's
My dad did too! In parades, he said he saw them
Your father is a very blessed man to have been able to talk to those guys. I would have loved to call both men Uncle. I feel blessed that I got to know WWI Vets. I feel blessed that I had WWII aged grandparents. Both of my grandfathers fought in WWII.
The account of General Lyon's death is amazing. From what I read, he was shot off his horse and died. No mention about what this man actually saw, which was that he was pulled from his horse and started fighting to the end, with rocks. and was shot. He even mentions the names of the man Lyon hit, and the one who shot him. Amazing first hand account of a Historical event.
I understand that we'd all
like to believe the old fellow telling the story, but it simply isn't true. Lyon was shot while on horseback, with a musket ball passing through his upper ribcage while he was turning in the saddle to address his men. He was pulled from his horse by an aide, and died shortly after.
In fact, the story about "Cole Camp" and the "250 Dutchman killed" is also untrue. This old guy was spinning yarns.
@@herecomesaregular8418 There is also memories coming together that spin a different narrative, we all have that once, where we remember something so vividly, it started creating what you saw, as something different than what happened. He very likely was talking about Germans he fought.
@@herecomesaregular8418 Amazing....you were not even there, yet allege the old dude is lying. How does the work exactly?
@@stevenmeadows6917 First-hand accounts are often incomplete, mistaken, or flat out exaggerated, and that problem gets worse the further away in years you get from the event. He could easily be an old man misremembering something from nearly 70 years prior, or be repeating a tale passed around camp about something he didn't witness himself. The American Civil War is pretty well documented by letters, memoirs, and official records, so it's not hard to cross-check his version against other sources.
@@davidward2651 Yes, that's a possibility, and even correct. The old guy could be padding the story..........
“I’m 94, a pretty good age for a young man” 😆 legends
These kind of witty folksy wholesome idioms are soon to be extinct from this world in less than 20 years and all we will have is our dumbed down homogenized politically correct ambiguously pro nouned nonsense left.
@@makemoroccogreatagain8628 "We can't give ya much but we ca give ya all we got!"
Another great one.
Love the banter of these guys. It's so cool to see and hear people born in the early-mid 19th century riffing like that.
@@TheHamburgler123 oh yes ...!
@@makemoroccogreatagain8628 The Confederacy was a treasonous state that sought war with their own countrymen because they wanted to own human beings.
It really amazes me to see a 84 and 94 year old men that were soldiers in the civil war still active,alert, and healthy long before modern medicine.
There's always a few who manage to make it to around that age throughout time; even today I think the key is to avoid needing medicine in the first place! Then it doesn't matter how modern it is 😄😄
@@scottwatrous so if I had, I don't know, cancer, your solution to living a long life is to... not go to the hospital?
@@compa6251 No, absolutely modern medicine has helped many to live longer lives, and take what would be a death sentence or at least crippling disability and turn it into something survivable if not trivial.
The point is throughout history there are those who 'win the lottery' and manage to not suffer major injury, avoid critical illness and disease, not get cancer, have access to clean water and decent food, etc and thus live well though old age without needing significant medical intervention (At best they avoided the risks of going to a hospital where they might well become worse off.) Even without the advances of modern medicine there have been folks living into their 80's and 90's and beyond.
And another point, even today those who end up having injuries, diseases, cancers, etc may not always benefit much from modern medical practice, at least not much more than what was available in the 1800's. Some things haven't moved forward all that much.
To be fair as well, modern medicine really started in the 1800's or so, and what they had then isn't so far removed from what we practice today. Sure some stuff has been debunked or vastly improved on, but for common stuff what they were doing then was still pretty good.
That is when men were men.
Almost as if modern medicine.... Better not go there
My grandfather, a WWII veteran, had memories of seeing a handful of Civil War veterans in the 4th of July parades of his childhood. That has always made me think about just how much the world has changed in the past 150-200 years. The men in this video lived in a period when, for the first time in the thousands of years of human history, the fastest way to travel on land wasn't a horse, and the people of that era recognized this change for the amazing development that it was. And yet, people from that generation would live to see airplanes fighting over the skies of Europe, and their children weapons powerful enough to destroy all humanity.
@ Hatuletoh - Re: "My grandfather, a WWII veteran, had memories of seeing a handful of Civil War veterans in the 4th of July parades of his childhood. That has always made me think about just how much the world has changed in the past 150-200 years."
That's so true, your observation about the world changing. My paternal grandparents were born at the end of the 19th century (late 1890s, grandfather) and dawn of the new century (1900, grandmother). I can clearly remember talking with them as a small boy and them relating how they saw an airplane or a motor car for the first time in the small rural southern town they called home. As kids, it was still common in those days to see folks moving about on horses, as not everyone could afford a car when they were new. My grandmother told of the wonderment of seeing an airplane for the first time, just before WWI. Yet, by the time they were elderly people in the 1970s, cars were commonplace, and men had walked on the moon. Can you imagine living through such changes?
For the men of the WWII generation, the American Civil War (War Between the States) was about as far in the past - seventy-five years - as WWII is to the present day. Which means that for many of those young men, there would still have been very elderly survivors of that long-ago conflict still alive. It is especially true since in that war, the armed forces took boys into their ranks, in some cases as young as 10-12 years old if they looked older and could pass for a 15-16 year old.
I know. Now they call themselves "Marines" and fancy names like that, They attend dinner parties for the ladies and go to clubs. It is all about dressing up in uniform and rows of ribbons, boasting about "service".
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
@@peace-now I assume you're trolling. The US marines have been around since the late eighteenth century. There hasn't been a major war in seventy-five plus years, so I wouldn't expect most of "them" to be fighting like these men did. If you're talking about veterans, I don't see any reason to think they're more boastful than those of these men's generation.
@@samfann1768 Not intended as trolling. I have no idea what Marines do anyway. I was a soldier myself.
If you know a WW2 veteran, ask them to do an interview about their experiences on camera. Links to the past like this film are precious and few.
I did that with my grandpa, he died on 2021, served on the italian front, i didn't record it, but have plenty of pages about, one day i want to write about it.
I knew one who didn't see combat but actually got to do maintenance on the Enola Gay he gave me a picture of himself next to the plane before the bombs were dropped. He passed away in 2015 I believe. His neighbor was another WWII vet who I believe was more active in combat but in Europe, also passed.
My grandfather on my mothers side, who is passed now, could have told some stories if he would have. He must have really been in the shit, so to speak. He was in the Philippines and came home with 3 confimed kills. A Bronze Star and a Silver Star, among other decorations in his two boxes of medals, etc. Oh.... and malaria, too. Also reaching rank of Master Sargent during the span of the Pacific Conflict. Yet he would not talk about it...period. And I do know when I was born that he told some people that he wished I had been a girl so I would never see war(this was 1976 when women in military was fairly rare still). I do know that one of his kills was right in his camp one night after being out on watch he came in and was shaving in front of a makeshift sink and mirror when he caught a glimpse of a Japanese soldier in the little mirror, with a large knife in hand. Grandpa played it cool and continues the act of shaving, knowing his rifle is at arms length. He lets the Japanese soldier get about 4 or 5 feet from him where the length of the rifle is an advantage over the knife. Then he drops everything, grabs his rifle spins, and bayonets the Japanese soldier in the chest. There was almost no sound, and he was alone there with the first human being he killed. That's not a story I would enjoy telling either. My grandmother said that he told her that soon after coming home and never told anyone again. My dad said he told him of being pinned down in swamp and rice patty, by Japanese forces at a stalemate for 27 days. When they finally managed to get free, his boots had to be cut off and socks peeled from his feet with the skin. He developed cancer in 1998 and in his weakened state malaria returned to him from the 1940s Philippines, and that is what ultimately ended his life. It sickens me to think what so many Americans have gone through to build just so today's generation can be free to tear it all down.
I recorded sound interviews with Australian veterans of WWII who had fought in the middle east and the Pacific for the 2/14 Battalion Association and La Trobe University in Melbourne. Sadly they are all gone now but their words will live on.
I was saddened to see the video end so quickly. It would have been great to hear more about their experiences. This is the first time that I hear a first hand account of the Civil War.
Sound video in 1929 was a very expensive proposition.
There's longer versions available. The entire clip is over 20 mins long. The local Civil War museum plays it on a loop.
Just be thankful that there is Any footage of these men at all.
I'd certainly like to hear more of their memories of life in general but am glad to have been able to watch this snippet.
you notice how these men enlisted to fight for their country, and the northerners enlisted to fight to push their agenda on the south?
I'm surprised this video is allowed on youtube... All they want to do is remove history from existence... This video is nothing but History.
A real treasure piece of history, so fortunate to have it. Music is too loud though.
They are at an event. The music is not "added". It's the actual background music being played at the event during this interview. You can also hear the chatter of voices of the people near them.
@@jaydouglas5847 There are others talking, the lady behind the two men, etc. But that music is clearly a modern recording that was added.
@@jaydouglas5847 Yes it is, it's obviously mixed at a studio
@@destubae3271 Yes, I stand corrected. Thanks.
@@commontater8630 . There are times when I'm wrong in making an observation, and generally I'm glad to be corrected as it means I'm now am better informed. By the tone and venom of your comment I can see that perhaps decades go by without you ever being wrong . I get the feeling that perhaps at times you call your wife/ partner or your kids a dope as well. I wonder what they call you when you err. Perhaps it begins with an A and ends with an E. Certainly you don't mind receiving a reply like this as you have a certain flair at being snotty when its not called for. Take note of the reply to me from destubaE below. He corrected my error with precision and grace, which from reading your reply would seem to be a concept your parents neglected to show you the value of.
It’s crazy to think that WW2 vets that are still alive today could have spoken to these Civil War vets, who in turn could have talked to Revolutionary War vets. It’s amazing how such major events in American and world history overlap with human generational lifespans. I wish we could go through time and hear all of these stories from these incredible individuals.
WW2 vets would have had to have been very, very young to have talked to these specific gentlemen. (Like, born in 1921).
when ever I go to the va hospital for a appt, I make a point of striking up a friendship with a old soldier, the last time it was a korean war vet, I talked to him about a hr, he said I was the first person who ever showed any interest in talking to him, most walked by when they seen his hat said korean war vet, and wasnt interested in talking to a korean war vet, thats said they should all have people willing to talk to them if they are open to conversation, I always let them kinda led the conversation after I say hello tell them some about me, and that I was a Combat medic
@@hannahwalmer1124 Nah! Many men served in World War II who were born before 1921. Like 1910 or so as well. In fact, the oldest age you could be drafted in World War II was 44! And men were! But 35 was the standard cut off. In fact, prior to Pearl Harbor, which saw the draft age lowered from 21 (which was the legal age of adulthood then) to 18 the Selective Service Act mandated that during the draft, the OLDEST went first!
@@AmericanPatriot-cw9xe Why did people have an issue with him being a Korean War vet?
@@retroguy9494 You are not wrong, retro guy. However, if we specify vets who are still alive today, Ms. Walmer would be more likely to be correct.
Love watching this. My dad's aunt just turned I think 106 and her sister is 101 I believe and both fairly sharp. It's amazing to think that none of us will ever experience the changes that they have. My grandfather was plowing fields with horses when he started farming and survived the battle of the bulge in ww2 he passed in 2010. He never did talk about what he witnessed in the war. It's crazy how much has technology happened in such a short amount of time.
Oh yes, we are experiencing massive changes. We just aren't noticing.
Ever watch the movie Idioocracy? I think that's how it's spelled...
That's the way we're going to be in a while with how dumb kids are getting.
This might be the best comment section in all of UA-cam. It’s great to see so many people giving history the respect it deserves
Lol I see the opposite of respect in some of these comments 😂
The General Price they mention was a Confederate general. He was a traitor of both the United States and of humankind for wanting to keep the institution of slavery of black people. These people don't deserve an ounce of admiration.
Eddie Doyle You have GOT to be kidding. This is disgusting, this man talking about people murdering each other as if it´s all ok. It´s repulsive.
@@federicofabrizi7942 So what should we have done? Let Confederate States win?
@@julieneild4505 : The two interviewees were Confederate veterans from Missouri, a Union State that sent soldiers to both sides much like Kentucky.
They fought in a war that happened over 155 years ago and I'm sittin here listenin to them talk abt. Absolutely amazing.
That is cool tbh
Listening most likely on a smart phone with more computing power than all computers used for Apollo 11.
What a timeline!
@@Intrepid151 First manned flight and then the moon a little over 50 years later. Pretty Incredible.
This video should NOT disappear!
We are currently seeing two civil war veterans having a conversation talking about the war! And to think this was over a 100+ years ago! Truly a fascinating piece of history where all newcomers should watch!
The conversation was in 1929, less than a 100 years ago,… 93 years ago.
We see a couple of worthless traitors that fought for slavery.
It's on the internet now, it's safe
@@bonsummers2657 The Civil War was over 100 years ago. That's what they are referring to. Some children like to say it's "nearly 200 years ago" though.
@@SStupendousI figure they're referring to the conversation.
I always love these historic recordings of people who tell their life story. It also makes me sad to know that many great stories and even just everyday life stories were never recorded and are now lost forever. That’s why I recently interviewed my grandparents (both born during WWII, now in their 80’s). I asked them many questions about their lives and the stories they remembered from their parents and grandparents. I now have something like 7 or 8 hours of voice recordings of them reminiscing together. I can recommend doing this to anyone!
Yes! I did the same with my grandma, and I wouldn’t take ANYTHING for those recordings. Hearing her voice again brings me so much comfort.
We didn’t enlist for a month. We enlisted for the war. Powerful words.
I believe that holds a lot of significance since a lot of confederate troops only enlisted for a year
@@golfwangattack lmao, a year is not that long of fighting. These old confederates trying to get prideful, nothing but disgracful.
@@shiverarts8284 they were courageous young men who were willing to die for a cause they believed in. I’d say that honorable commitment deserves respect. Such as many WW2 German soldiers were not aware of the concentration camps, many confederates were not fighting for slavery. Instead, many were simply fighting for their families and their individual states’ regiments with very little political or racial motive. For many (but not all) it was merely a sense of duty and service to their homeland, the south.
@@shiverarts8284 i think a lot of confederates believed the war would be over in that time. When their conscription was up lot of troops naturally wanted to return home. That wasn’t feasible so the confederacy changed to mandatory service. I dont think that makes them disgraceful, in fact there were many willing to fight until “the end of the war” and there some who held out for a little while after. Ultimately these men fought and died for something they believed in.
@@golfwangattack no it's still disgraceful. Fighting for Americas original sin, slavery. Everyone knew it, and im pretty sure they knew what they were fighting for. They were not complete idiots.
My dad was born in 1933. There’s a picture of him with two of his great grandfathers on the front porch of his grandparents house. Both were civil war veterans and both were in major engagements like Gettysburg. One was a drummer and the other was an infantryman.
That blows my mind. Those people were walking talking history books.
Wow, that is incredible.
I was 19 when my great grandmother died. She was 92 and still sharp as a tack until the end. Born in 1887 she saw 5 wars, the automobile and plane invented, a Great Depression and man walking on the moon. What a great life.
Could you share it with us? Perhaps post it on a subreddit like r/OldSchoolCool?
@@jogman262 damn,that's bad ass. The shit she been through. Incredible
Though Union General Lyon was their enemy, these guys talk of him in high regard. That's classic honor there.
oh, so they were the baddies ?
@@Mah0urse Pretty much just your average southerners fighting a war of the rich. Best way to describe it is two good men fighting for the wrong side.
@@Mrtaco5202 you're right, I said it for the meme
@@Mrtaco5202 Slavery was certainly wrong but the reason we perceive a right side in the conflict is because the north capitalized on the moral dilemma of emancipation as a strategy. If the war were to have happened 30 years later slavery might not have been an issue as the south may have had the opportunity to do away with slavery without federal intervention and our perceptions on the conflict would probably be very different. No doubt there would have still been a war!
@@nuggert totally agree, there's so much nuance in our historical conflicts
Legend has it these two men are still having a good time, enjoying themselves very much, and telling stories of their Civil War escapades to this day.
Nah, they’re probably just on Facebook arguing with each other, just like everyone else.
i may have dug him up...was doing some gardening.....
@@tednguyen7258 tf
Legend is wrong, they’re both dead
@@willyharris4199 No shit
This video is an absolute treasure. The fact that it survived during all this time and is now immortalized on the internet is nothing short of ordinary.
extrordinary*
@@hoosier-daddy6807 Extraorororordairy*
@@sayedalazam4228 Manifiififificent!
Extraordinary!
Absolutely amazing. We are all soo far removed this historical event that it's weird to hear first hand accounts from the men who were there.
It's hard to think that today, you'd think the Civil War was fought for nothing. Look at the nation today!
We’re not really *that* far removed though if you think about it
A ‘normal’ human can easily live 90-100 years
We’re less than two of that time span removed from the war, it’s a short enough time that there are some people alive today who have memories of interacting with people who fought in the war
I have the opposite feeling: it shows how short 100 years actually is. Once you've lived to hit your 70s, it hits you: I'm much closer to 100 than I was to when I was born. My mother once told me that she remembered when Edison died (1931) and the country, including her parents, turned their lights off for one minute in tribute to him. I was struck that I knew someone (Mom) who "knew" someone (Edison) who was a teen during the Civil War. Were she still alive, Mom would be 100 this year. To think I knew someone who could go back 100 years in time! That is exactly what this video was about, two old soldiers going back about 65 years in time, like it was yesterday. Amazing!
@@demef758 Yes. My grandmother told me many stories too. And, it's amazing that 2 men from opposing military groups, that mutilated each other during a war, can sit back and discuss it with each other years later. Same thing with WWI and II. Look at us being kind a friendly towards each other from over seas, doing business and so on, when we were mortal enemies (as it were) with Germany and others. And after these wars, nothing really changed. We became more civil and moral (mostly) and can discuss issues instead of nations leaders turning civilians into soldiers, sending them to fight and die for reasons that you don't go dying for. All those issues could have been avoided. They began, over small, person to person conflicts. Then, the conflicts escalated, bringing in others on both sides to fight for a cause that they couldn't even come to a conclusion of what the war started in the first place. Both WWI and II, as well as the civil war started that way.
When this was filmed in 1929, these two were 64 years past the end of the Civil War. Today, our surviving WW II veterans are already 76 years past the end of that war. We need to appreciate all the WW II veterans' stories as well, before they are lost as they pass away.
I find this incredible. This was recorded nearly 100 years ago, and these 2 gentlemen (who were elderly then), are sharing first hand Civil War experiences. I wish I could talk to them, continue the conversation and ask questions. Thanks for uploading this!
You would say that because you love the confederate soldiers who fought to keep slavery… sick humans
If only more people read and studied history
I wish video recording was invented much earlier so we could have seen what life was like for a revolutionary war veteran and we could also have heard about the life of a Hindu under the Mughal rule, more than 400 years ago
@@Onetruenugget Somebody 400 years from now will be like "I wish they hadn't invented video recording so early now we have to watch all these bad movies and twerking clips."
In college I once got to hear audio of an actual Confederate soldier belting out the rebel yell. He was 83, sitting beside his son at a Civil War veterans gathering as his son attempted to reenact the rebel yell. The attempt was okay, but the father, at 83, let loose with that honest to goodness rendition and it was among the most bone chilling sounds I've ever heard.
Do you know if this recording is available online somewhere?
how old are you? jesus.
the sound of traitors is NEVER bone chilling.
@@SasquatchLovesMeare you an American? If so you’re a traitor to the British Empire.
@@SasquatchLovesMe Cringe.
On December 16, 2020, Helen Viola Jackson died at age 101. She was the last widower who was collecting a pension check from her Civil War husband. At age 17 in 1936 she married 93 year old Civil War Veteran James Bolin. Direct connection to Civil War is not far off.
Dude what
@@SoldierForChrist221 true story.
I wonder how much a civil war pension check was?
Hold up
Somethings not right here
My grandfather was 37 when this was filmed..Talking with him was like talking to a history book...He recalled to me when the first model T rolled into town, backfired and horses ran in every direction...He lived into the late seventies and saw men plant Old Glory on the moon....Love you and miss you grandpa..❤
Thanks for sharing and don’t forget to share with your kids and grandkids! Just like you… they’ll never forget!
The "General Lyon" the one soldier is referring to is an interesting character. Nathaniel Lyon was a staunch unionist and abolitionist, who kicked the confederates out of Missouri almost single handily and chased the pro confederate governor out as well. He would disguise himself as an old lady and sneak into enemy camps to gain intel. Interestingly before he died in battle he reported to his superior officers that he had no confidence in giving a military position to a then obscure 39 year old former soldier. And that soldier was soon to be General Ulysses S. Grant.
Lyon never kicked anyone out of Missouri, was killed at Wilson's Creek, his forces defeted, then Gen. Price and the Missourians went north to Lexington and defeated the Yankees there
also. Lyon was just another Northener who helped to invade an independent State to murder and plunder.
@@richty3845 Ooh a lost causer. Was wondering when one of you would show up.
@@richty3845 The historical consensus is that Lyons actions effectively destroyed the Confederate's ability to occupy Missouri after Lyon defended St. Louis and beat the confederate sympathetic homeguard in Boonville, so I dont know what you're talking about how he "never kicked out anyone"
@@richty3845 looks like somebody’s still mad there Klan lost, you oK Kruger?
@@richty3845 looking for a sale on white sheets?
These two old boys looked well and happy, didn't they? I really enjoyed hearing them. Shame there wasn't more of it.
I’m within an hour’s drive of Wilson’s Creek Battlefield. I went to see it and walk it’s grounds a year or more ago. It made the hair stand up on my arms to see the gentleman in this clip telling about being in the battle there. I don’t think I had heard about General Lyon fighting with rocks before he was killed… I hate that interesting details like that have been lost to time. I’m glad I stumbled onto this video this morning..
That's an interesting story you shared......possibly worthy of a video?
Hell yea. Great share. :)
Very good points,I can't imagine how you felt,great post!!!
I drove by it today and I had the same reaction when he said where and what battles.
Very likely an embellishment by a soldier who needed to glorify the struggle and the pointless loss of life.
In this great span of time, none of this was really that long ago. My Dad, who is doing great at the ripe ol' age of 107, remembers watching Civil War Veterans marching in 4th of July parades when he was a kid. Some he says also rode in open touring cars. He also saw Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, and Harvey Firestone. My Grand Father was born in 1878 and survived fighting in the front-line trenches of WW1 for 3 years. Of my 4 Great Grand Fathers, two fought in the Civil War. One was born in 1840, and fought in the Battle of Solferino, as a 2nd Lieutenant of Lancers in 1859. In 1863 he came to America and joined the 15th North Carolina Infantry, Co. L, CSA. He fought in the Battle of Kennesaw Mountain, and was later captured at Marietta, Georgia, spending the rest of the war as a prisoner at Camp Morton, Indianapolis, Indiana. Another Great Grand Father was a Captain of Red Shirt Volunteers under Gen. Garibaldi during the wars for Italian Unification. He also came to America and fought in the Civil War as an officer of the 39th U.S.C.T., and fought in the Battles of Petersburg, The Crater, and Ft. Fisher.
If you can interview him and get it on tape, think what a great treasure your dad's stores will be for your children and grandchildren.
thank you for these stories!
Wow 107, my grandad is 106 and suffers badly with dementia, he can still walk around fine though.
What army was your grandfather in to fight in the First World War for 3 years?
@@Neil-jm6om probably Italy, I guess
I remember my dad telling me a story his dad told him. When my grandfather was growing up in NYC he would occasionally watch parades. He told my father there would be Civil War and Spanish American War veterans marching or at least what was left of them. My grand father was born in 1923 so you could probably guess those men from both the USA and CSA were well on their way to naturally meeting God. But to know that my grandfather observed maybe a parade or two with men from so long ago participating is truly remarkable to me.
That is correct. My mom told me that the civil war vets were always marching in the back. I assume that's because they were old and could slow things down if they were up front. They were old men with white hair and long white beards. This was in the 1920's and some of the 1930's.
My dad remembered civil war vets in front of stores, begging for money. These were the injured ones missing legs, or issues like that. There was no meaningful welfare back in those days.
I live 35 miles from where the battles took place. Stood on the battlefield and you can feel it. Went up to hill where general lyons was killed. You can feel history
I agree with you. I have had the same experience in the past at Gettysburg. It says if the spirits of these fellows have never left.
lol..... ZERO chance you can "feel" anything by going there bud......
Indeed. I stood on the same ground General Washington had his command post setup in Virginia, and drank from the same creek he drank from. It was a deeply emotional experience to say the least. I felt like he was standing right there.
@@Emperor_Shao_Kahn
The way this comment was typed gives off so much millennial vibes fr fr
@@Emperor_Shao_KahnShut up you husk.
Amazing ! My great-grandfather was a child / slave of about 6 or 7 in 1861. My grandfather used to tell us what he heard from his father. Would be interesting to find former slaves speaking from their perspective about life as these two gentlemen do. The Smithsonian does have voice recollections of slaves. Another reason why we should make sure history is never "cancelled" because it hurts the feelings of others 100 years later. Let it speak for itself so generations later on can hear it from the mouth of those who were there. Thank God for this footage.
Look up Fountain Hughes o YT. There are other former slave interviews on YT as well. Just use the keyword former slave interview.
The Fountain Hughes interview is quite interesting. He talks about in one interview ( depending which one you find) about how when the slaves were set free that the firmer owners gave them a choice to stay or go their own way. When they went their own way, they were given what was needed to survive with..... only to have the Union sodiers to dump the items in the river as they were not allowed to keep anything from their former owner....... go figure
@@nazfan01 Great ! Thanks for the info. Will follow up.
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Thank you for being so wise! History can't be cancelled, and shouldn't be re-written because it might offend someone who has no connection to said history! 🙄😐
We need to keep our history alive, whether it be good, bad or disgusting. It's the only way we learn and improve society for everyone. Lately, seems like a lot of people have forgotten. 🧐😔
"Child/Slave" he was a slave??
@@nazfan01 Why?
I always think it's a great pity that the camera wasn't invented a good few thousand years earlier. Imagine watching similar interviews with, say, soldiers from the Roman legions.
Facts
Stupid comments. Also a shame the nuke wasn’t around then? No, just stfu
They likely have had something like that. Dont take his story so seriously. You be surprised what we had over 100 years ago Electric cars. Electric scooters. Flying trash cans. Monowheel motorcycles. Hydrogen motors. Househeld Radiation heaters and electricity producers. Derigibles that could carry over 100's of people like small cities in the skys. What did we have 100 years before that? Theres technology's that we are rediscovering and using today. History is just that. The story of the victor. His story. Not ours. People get paid to play, you see it now. Its sad.
@@JD-re3cj 😂😂😂😂😂 dang Bro, whew that was just perfect
"Yep, and then we put our knives into Caesar's body. All 40 of us did. Yes, sir."
I grew up in Kansas and met a man named Wally Latimer. In 1984 when I met him, he was 101 years old. I was 13 at the time and listened to him go on about the old west and traveling by covered wagon. I was amazed at his tales and experiences. He drank a bottle of beer a day and was still getting around like a young man. Unbelievably He was still actively farming. He was on Johnny Carson a coupe times I believe. What an honor it was to learn about history directly from a person who lived it.
It's insane to see how much changed in that mans lifetime.
some people just dont die. there are people living perfectly healthy yet they die at a young age and then there are people drinking and smoking reaching 100+
@@lennartsix6102 yeah life just be like that sometimes
25 years ago: Noted ‘Kansas philosopher’ dies at 107
NEWS
FEB 11, 2014 - 12:00AM
SARAH ST. JOHN
From the Lawrence Daily Journal-World for Feb. 11, 1989:
In Lyons, Kansas, noted Kansan Wally Lattimer died today at the age of 107. Lattimer had made appearances on “The Tonight Show” four times near his 97th, 98th, 99th, and 100th birthdays, but had begun turning down Johnny Carson’s requests after that. “It was an honor to start with,” Lattimer had said at the time. “But I just had enough of running out there. He’s a nice guy, but I can see why he’s been divorced so often. I wouldn’t want to live with him.” Lattimer had also appeared twice on the show “Hee Haw” to dispense his particular brand of humor and down-home advice. He was proud of his record of voting in presidential elections and said he hadn’t missed one since his first vote in 1904 for Teddy Roosevelt. About three years previously, he had offered some ideas about how to achieve the longevity he had attained. In addition to his advice never to snack between meals, never to sleep more than six hours a night, and to drink in moderation, he also recommended taking life one day at a time. “I very seldom get mad,” he added, “and when I do you wouldn’t know it. You just ruin your own self that way.”
One beer/day isn’t much.
Born and raised in Missouri I was taught on battle strategies of General Price growing up. How cool is it to be hearing these two men referring to him! History is truly worth preserving at all cost!
yeah for sure!!!
It truly astonishes you to put into perspective, at the time it was current reality.
Well I'm born and raised in Springfield Missouri and I had many field trips to Wilson's Creek when I was a kid.
General lyon was a badass!
My paternal grandma once told me that as a child, she would wrap herself in her grandpa's army coat when she went on wintertime sleigh rides. That grandfather was a union army veteran, so the coat would have been a blue federal great coat. My mom told me that HER mom would sometimes sing "Marching Through Georgia," not because my grandma was some kind of Civil War or history buff but because it was a song she had heard sung by her grandpa, whose regiment served under Gen. William T. Sherman. The Civil War really wasn't that long ago.
It's hard for me to wrap my head around the men that actually fought in the Civil War still being around for a talking interview on film! Two completely different eras merged together in front of me! Really cool, thanks whoever you are
Confederate soldiers
They lived enough to see Abraham Lincoln and Babe Ruth.
How about going from horses in the Civil War to Lindbergh's flight to Paris? They watched Civil War battle tactics and later could read about airplane battles in WWI.
Babe Ruth was my favorite president.
They also go through the dreadful first world war and the misery of the great depression. A lot of stories they got to tell.
Abraham Lincoln was a pos that turned the military on civilians.
Yeah.... How about this? They went from a time when there wasn't electricity, radio, telephones, automobiles, airplanes, fans, air conditioning, to a time when it all existed. Think about that for a moment.
One of my professors who taught me in seminary (I am still in school so this was not long ago) was a WWII veteran and told me stories about the times he met and spoke with Civil War veterans. It was so incredible to listen to his stories and him recall what they said about the battles, the people they met and fought with, and he saw their battle wounds. The last time my professor saw some of them, they actually got dressed in their Civil War uniforms and took their rifles and swords and marched in a parade when they were in their late 80's and early 90's. Then he told us about his time in WWII and being in Japan. The stories I heard in class a couple of years ago were incredible. I am going to use some of the stories as sermon illustrations when I get a church again.
I think it’s kinda cool hearing about brave men from both world wars looking up to the soldiers of older wars and how the veterans of older wars got to see the new wars and technology.(Even if it would be used to kill each other.)
I could just sit and listen to them talk all day they remind me of my grandpa. ❤ 😊
Just rewatched. The man on the left said “As long as we lived, as long as the war lasted”. Perfect quote for us all to start the week.
Back then there wasn't no quitten'. You fought until one of you gave up.
"John Morgan" I think I know what Rockstar's getting their character names from.
@@stuartbear922 This applies for today too, since this was a civil war, not a regular war. Which means the outcome decides the course of the country, forever. You fight for the outcome you want, and you never stop fighting. Because the other outcome is complete annihilation of your way of life. For better or worse.
@@SStupendous tru
@@cortster12 That way of life being Slavers you mean.
"94, pretty good age for a young man" that's pretty funny. Both of these guys do not look their age or sound like it either
We're lucky to have this piece of history
Agreed, both men look far younger.
Age is a number, old is a mindset. You'd be surprised how spry and active people are into their 90's. As a nurse I've met some feisty and agile ninjas in their 90's that will knock you one, lol.
@@jeremylobos8636 I want to be the old codger sitting around, drinking coffee, giving people a hard time
@Sven Nordqvist If they had fought in the civil war, early 80s would have been the youngest age in 1929.
Recorded in the year my mother was born and she’s 93 now.Crazy to think of what changes they’ve lived through .
I was at the Wilson Creek Visitor Center last week and the staff did not know of this film clip. Their research said General Lyon was shot on his horse and fell into an aide's arms. This veteran says he was there and even names the soldier, John Morgan, who shot Lyon as well as the weapon, "an old fashioned horse pistol". He would have been 16 or 17 at the time. Send the staff this clip.
I think that much of the documented history does not square up with the actual events in many cases I have personally experienced this myself
There are people alive today with first person recollections of knowing civil war soldiers - that is amazing
Makes time seem a lot shorter, doesn't it?
Last Civil War Veteran died in 1956, so yes my parents probably crossed paths with a Civil War vet at sometime or another. They were both born in 1932.
@@jogman262 1956? My goodness, what a ginormous jump forward he lived through in the modernization of society and the way wars are fought. I wonder how he must’ve felt hearing about the airborne troops parachuting into Normandy.
My dad was born in the early 1930s. There was a confederate veterans home in our town, and when he was little, he said he remembered the old confederate veterans, some missing limbs, smoking pipes and talking downtown. Of course, he remembered the limbless as a child standing out in his mind most. His great grandfathers (my great-greats) all fought for the Confederacy.
That same veterans home was Jeff Davis’ last home and now a museum. My next door neighbor’s mom worked there, and as a kid, we got to play (handle and manipulate and even wear) actual weapons and gear behind the scenes and play on the grounds. There are several hundred confederate vets buried in the confederate cemetery there.
I doubt you can find a story much more Southern than that
I've been to the Jefferson Davis Library (Beauvior). Next summer will be the 20th anniversary of the visit.
@@finchborat is the Jefferson Davis Library still open if it is I'm going to go
@@finchborat it’s changed over the decades. 40 years ago the grounds were filled with old buildings and quarters, carriage house and nothing modern. The hurricanes and time have changed its vibe some what. Most of the old buildings are gone. Now there’s a huge modern museum and bookstore/gift shop, etc.
It’s a good thing, change. But also my youth there has been relegated to the pages of history like the old grounds themselves.
That being said, it’s still very well done, outstanding staff, and dedicated to American historical preservation and I recommend.
The old home, graveyard and library are still there. They saved/protected a lot and reconstructed what they couldn’t salvage from Katrina. Did a great job.
@@justcause3254 I was amazed the home itself survived Katrina.
As a guy who lives in Springfield, Missouri and grew up in the area - it's an honor to hear this. That's an incredible eye-witness. A lot of ghosts still walk Wilson's Creek. Nathaniel Lyon, I had no idea he was such a badass - I'm glad I got to spend so much time walking the area.
My ggg grandfather was a Civil War veteran and was still living at the time this wonderful footage was taken. He was one of the last veterans known to have been living in Indiana when he died. He was an Englishmen who was the only one of his family who came to America. He fought in the Battle of the Wilderness and was taken prisoner. He was consequently one of the last people who personally experienced that horrible camp that died.
The quality of this 1929 footage is better than a lot of the footage uploaded today
“We didn’t enlist for a month or a year, we enlisted for the War.” I don’t know if there’s anything more loyal and brave than that mindset but God rest their souls and may the World find true peace one day.
lol
LoL
"Loyal"
Bruh they fought for the confederates
Just so you know, the confederate army literally made it impossible to not be enlisted for the duration. Even people who had 3 year service terms saw those get bumped to "indefinite", especially after Georgia determined it wasn't going to send its troops beyond its borders, and Tennessee started turning on the confederacy.
@@Trev0Rear Loyal to the Confederacy.
Which, later on, forced all soldiers to have an "indefinite" enlistment, tuning three and one year enlistments into "indefinite" ones.
My parents were from south-central Missouri, born during the Great Depression. Mom's family came from Bavaria in the 1820's, settled in Vienna,, MO, and the family bloodline was still 100% German in the 1930's when she was born. My father was of English and Cherokee descent. Mom's family called him a "yankee, " and dad referred to my mom as a "stubborn Dutchman." It was fun for me to hear these old soldiers making "dutchman" references.
Funny especially because she was a woman!
My great great grandmother had 2 older brothers that fought for the Union in the civil war from Cedar county Missouri, they were also Bavarian decent. There must have been alot of people of Bavarian decent in that particular part of Missouri at that time. One of 2x great grandmas brothers was a calvary rider who went out on patrol and got shot and killed somewhere on the Kansas border. The brother that was K.I.A. was mentioned in her obituary dated from the 1930's. One of my relatives has a letter she wrote sometime during the civil war also where she mentions somthing about soldiers coming through her family farm and butchering all their chickens and livestock but she doesn't specify if they were union or confederate. That guy in the video mentions killing Dutch but wonder if he meant "Deutsch" or the german word for german, alot people confuse that word thinking it means Dutch. Guess they were confederate since I think Missouri was a split state between the two. I think there was alot of settlers in Missouri from the slave states so guess the politics were fairly divided there.
@@lairbear6992 While officially a part of the Union, Missouri had its share of Confederate sympathizers; arguably more than Unionists. Go anywhere south of St. Louis today, and everyone speaks with a drawl. As for the "Deutch" of Missouri, there is a HUGE contingent of German descendants here. The region west of St. Louis that starts at the Missouri River and extends through mid-state is called the Missouri Weinstrasse, along Hwy 94. Many Germans grew grapes and its known as the 1st viticultural region in the nation. My maternal family line has names like Sandbothe, Redel, Kerner, Bauer.
The German triangle from St. Louis to Cincinnati to Milwaukee.
@@lairbear6992 I think he means “German” when he says “Dutch” as the latter name would have been more commonly used at that time to denote the former. The Missouri Home Guards which were massacred at Cole Camp, MO were referred to as “Dutch” and this is who he mentions at first. It sounds as if he was one of them men involved in this massacre.
I’m surprised he can remember the war like it was yesterday at age 84. It’s amazing.
You remember a war your whole life. Doesnt matter how old you become, you will have your memories about that until your death.
He's probably been telling those stories his whole life, and who knows how true they even are after all these years?
not doped up on big pharma and sugar so his brain works
I can assure you they are most probably true. They lived it, went through it and suffered through it, no reason to lie.@@JohnnyRelentless
He probably got ptsd who knows
Im 70 watching from Australia. What i liked about watching these two great guys was the fact they did not live in a digital age . I liked it when things were simpler. But respect to there bravery .
My great grandmother was just 8 years old when this was filmed. Truly puts things into perspective, the same way you could hear stories of WW2 as a child from the elderly in this era you could just as well hear about the Civil War from the elderly
My grandma was 8 when this was filmed, And her grandma was born a slave in Georgia. I'm only 25, slavery really wasn't that long ago
Shoot, my mom graduated college when this was filmed. You must be whippersnappers. 🤣 PS, I'm mid 60s. My WWII stories were from my parents, one North, one South, who met and married during the war.
@@mlee-w664 thank you!!! These soldiers people are praising were confederates who fought to keep slavery and break away from the USA, unlike the Union
Mine was 11 years old when this was filmed. She's still alive
Wow. I am speechless! I love reading about the Civil War but hearing voices and seeing men who actually fought in it? Totally different perspective! Thank you!
Man I just can't get enough of the relic videos of civil war veterans. So amazing!!
What a treasure this is. So glad that it was caught on camera. When we make videos we always wish we could get the subjects version.
And 2 years after "talkies" were invented. Previously films were silent with captions interspersed between frames.
I love this, it makes me feel like they were talking yesterday it seemed so.... Present idk. Like the fact they're still so able minded and bodied is incredible. Either way, I feel as if I'll be at that stage of life soon enough. There lives flashed before there eyes with so much story, I feel like my life will be played out within a blink similarly. I'll be like them, sitting there recapping some of the best heroic stories from a past that will soon be a point in history. I just hope I am anything near as strong willed as these old boys. Lots of love and respect for this, thank you.
Imagine going from horseback, candle light, and muskets, to Cars & planes, electric lights, and belt fed machine guns. That's one hell of a progression within one lifetime. These guys were already past 25 when the Indian wars raged out west, and lived to see the begining of the nazi Party's rise. Not to mention the Spanish American War and WW1 in between. It's amazing!!
And lucky for them they missed the internet and QAnon.
@@truantray Lucky for them they missed the internet and Democrat insanity
they'll say the same about us. I'm not even 50 and get incredulous looks from kids when I say we used to have maps as there was no such thing as gps. my daughter can't grasp the idea of no mobile phones, no internet.
@@user-yb9hi3us4p maybe go for a trek or to an island without phones (just emergency gps and maps)
your daughter will appreciate the nature
@@karantikoo9302 we don't have mobile coverage at our place. Kids still know phones exist 🤦♂️
I was in the Army as a medic training to be an LPN at Ft Sam Houston, TX back in 1995. I took care of a lady who was in her mid 90s then. She told me that her father in law was a Colonel in the Civil War. She explained that she had married a veteran (the son) who had a pension who was in his late 60s and she was a young girl (I think she said 17). His father had served in the Union Army as a Colonel during the war! I was amazed given the war ended 130 years before.
It's amazing seeing a 94 year old man living back then. Can't imagine how rare that must have been
Still ain’t half bad these days either
John Adams lived to be 90 and he died before these guys were born.
Not really
My goodness, has school taught you anything? People have been able to live that long and longer for thousands of years, without modern medicine. It’s not nearly as crazy as you think
@@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro Yeah clearly its wasnt impossible bro
I'm near 60 years old and was recently looking at the skyline of a city I was familiar with when I was young. I mentioned the change of look of the place but my friend said it's 40 years so what do you expect? Then I got thinking that a person my age now back then would have the same feeling when remembering the city in WW2. Vividly like it wasn't really too long ago with the thoughts about it in your memory still feeling valid. But I would have been oblivious to their memories. Then I did a thought experiment by going back in 40 year leaps.
Now - new tall modern commercial buildings in the formerly old looking city of Liverpool England. I worked in a couple of them.
Times 2 - German planes raining death and destruction on that city
Times 3 - 1901, no planes, radio and few cars. My country ruled half the world.
Times 4 - the war these men in the video fought in.
Times 5 - Beethoven giving a concert.
Times 6 - The United States does not yet exist and the territory is ruled by my country.
When my mom passed in 2011 at 92 I commented that someone 92 at the time of her birth would have been born during Andrew Jackson presidency
@@roadtrip2943 Makes the birth of Christ seem not so long ago. Your mom's age only 22 times.
When U write "My Country Ruled..." Only your Monarch & Family may make such a claim, All others were born under the Crown & thus Bend the Knee. Those Born under USA Flag & Outer Space Flag stand Free in Their Country.
Nice
Excellent thought exercise! Reflection is an important thing for a human being. I'm going to Germany next summer for a reunion of my US Army company from the 1980s. Back then, I met an older American gentleman who had fought through that town in 1945, helping take the bridge over the Danube River. He'd come back after 38-40 years to see what things looked like and revisit those dramatic times. Next year when I return, I'll be looking back at a town I first encountered in 1983, i.e. 39 years ago. The shoe is now on the other foot :-)) The world keeps on turning, doesn't it?
92 years now when this was filmed and here you are watching this.
Imagining time traveling and telling them both that 92 years from now, people are still going to watch this.
Mind blown.
On a cross between a telephone and a television. The television was 1 year old at the time of this recording
My God! As amazing as it is to be able to see someone from such a distant past, it's equally haunting and beautiful at the same time.
What a treat!
I remember spending time with my Great grandmother in the 1990s and she was born in 1907! She taught me card tricks but I wish I could go back and ask her a million questions. Before this was filmed she had already sailed from Ireland to Australia with her Elder brother, his wife, their children, her mother and her three older siblings. Her father (my Great-Great Grandfather) had died at sea at the ripe old age of 28 shortly after she was born.
They both looked good for their age ranges.
Indeed. That's something to ponder. What IS modern medicine doing to humanity?
@@rockybernard2997 saving peoples lives... you realize these people are a rare case
@@rockybernard2997 DESTROYING IT!
@@Frozo-nt2ky have you ever VISITED an old cemetery? Indeed, Not so rare! but you'd need to have done that research to reach such a conclusion.
All that marching and short rations in youth made em healthy at the start.
The fact that there were men in the 20s that witnessed slavery firsthand is really trippy. When you learn it in history the 1860s feels ancient…
Exactly, and what’s more, it is possible that some old man today had his grandfather born a slave…
Born in 1860, fathered a child at 70 in 1930…
Just unbelievable
It is ancient
Sadly an even worse form of slavery is going on today, it is called sex trafficking, and is being funded by wealthy powerful people in places of power in our own country even, but it is all covered up by the those in power as well.
@@CapitaineBleuten My grandpa's great-grandfather was a freed man in adulthood, but we don't know whether or not he was born enslaved or not. He was born almost exactly 100 years apart from my grandpa, who is sitting downstairs watching TV
If he was freed as an adult then he was born a slave. No questions about it. @@aboutashow
My granddad was born in 1917. To think he could have sat down as teenager and talked to these guys about the war. Crazy.
Absolutely amazing! Mind blowing to be genuinely transported back in time. This footage is such a treasure!!
I love this channel and the comments section. No jokers no nasty fights just like minded history buffs discussing these events. I swear I can count on one hand how many channels I go to are on this list. I just wanted to say I appreciate you all here.
Filmed in 1929, and their Grandfathers would have probably seen the revolution of 1776 culminating in 1783.
If not their fathers
The generation gaps between families are not very large. My grandparents were born in 1902. Their grand parents fought in the Civil War, and their grand parents fought in the war of 1812 and American Revolution.
@@elmerkilred159 - Same here..
Just amazing pondering this.
@@kfrausto - Real History being spoken from those that were there to share and not from some moldy history book but from the real thing..like those telling us of WW1,WW2 and Korea..glad someone was able to film these men back then..
This right here is why the Civil War is one of my favorite times in history and one of the reasons why I became a history major in college. I truly hope everyone who reads this comment or watches this video, takes a minute to truly grasp how lucky we are to have a piece of this momentous time in history.
They weren’t civil war vets, but my memories of the old timers in my family who fought in WW1 and WW2 sounded just like those men. Steadfast and brave, and thankful for a good dinner when one came around. My hat is off to them.
I really hope people grasp how incredible and important this is. Literally watching and listening to two men who fought in the Civil War speak. Technology is an amazing thing.
Not too many, unfortunately. They are allowing statues of The Reconciliation to be torn down; the very thing that probably made these two ex-Confederates so amiable.
I had two gg-grandfathers who both served as confederate soldiers together from the same county in NC. Both were wounded at the battle of Gettysburg. One of them was taken prisoner by the Union army and released by prisoner exchange 2 years later. I obtained his military records from the Washington DC military archives. Such interesting history.
God bless them, and you. Deo Vindice!
you gggranfathers were traitors lol
@@AngeloComedyimagine being so numb
@@AisarShamsul said the nazi
What an absolute treat it is to be able to hear these men talk about their experiences in the civil war. Thank you for posting it!
Bro this doesn't feel any different than talking with modern veterans. I love it
Or even standard current old men.
The eras are not too far from each other.
Yes, only the faces change.
And this conversation may had been occured even during the Roman empire era.
Naah modern veterans all have PTSD and other mental problems and are all in therapy. Here we have two real soldiers.
@@NiePieerdol Uh. Ok. I have a constant ringing in my ears, but don't lump us all in with mental problems, therapy, and PTSD. Although, this ringing is insufferable and I would not wish it on anybody.
@@NiePieerdol there were those in all wars who came back shattered men. Watch clips from WW1 shell shocked victims. No-one walks away unchanged from war.
Absolutely fascinating video. Thanks for posting
It's great that they recorded this. How awesome would it have been to actually get to talk to an actual Civil War veteran? I used to work at the local National Guard armory in the mid-1980s and there was a group of World War I veterans that used to come there to meet a couple times a month. I wish I would have been able to sit with them and hear their stories. It would have been better than reading any history book or watching any documentary on TV.
Wow what the heck, this is amazing stuff. Listening to those men just makes me feel like there is something missing in this world today.
English is not my first language, but I can understand clearly each word of these fine gentlemen. Fantastic video.
He pronounced it "Missoura" just like my grandmother and great uncle did.
Thats an old timey thing to put an "a" or "uh" sound on the end of an "i". Lots of old timers would call Cincinnati Cincinnatuh or Hawaii Hawaiuh. Very common here in the Midwest for those say...75 or older. Dont know why.
same thing my grandparents did. They were from Gerald, Missouri.
I had a friend in high school that pronounced Ohio more as Ohi-uh.
It’s still pronounced that way.
I'm from East Tennessee and many here pronounce it Missoura, and Ohi-uh, yella, winda, tomorra, tomata, potata, oil is uhl.
I just realized that today is Veteran's Day. How appropriate to be watching these war videos.
Maybe that's why they popped up on UA-cam today.
That's crazy, I live about 30 min from Warsaw and about 20 min from Cole Camp. Never knew there was such intense presence and fighting in this particular area.
These men witnessed muskets and cap and ball revolvers turn into bolt actions, semi automatics and cars.
@@aduantas I know right? Technology is weird.
They seen full auto as well. I mean they had the gatling gun back then but when WW1 game they had the Lewis Gun, MP sub machine gun. So yeah they witnessed guns evolving.
@@RebelGaming4U they did indeed. this was the time when john mosses browning was inventing.
This is amazing historical footage. Thank you for sharing it. The ages of these men at the time of filming and how well they can speak and "have their mental faculty" is impressive. My Grandfather was in WW2, he never spoke to us children about it, and if a military movie was on the TV when he walked in you had to change the channel. Sad.
PL: Many of that generation were like that, they never talked about what they had to endure. They just came home and went to work, started families and kept the stories for their buddies down at the VFW.
My uncle whom was a WW2 vet said that he saw Vets from the civil war, when he was a kid marching during July 4th, probably Former Union Soldiers, then WW1 Vets, as the Civil War Vets passed. Just like us, Vietnam Vets are in their 70,s now.
I remember when the grey haired old vets were from WW1. Now I am the grey haired old vet. LOL
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My lord. My grandpa and his buddies always talked like this! Some things never change.