Pros & Cons of Daily Driving a 50 year old Classic Car in Los Angeles
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Here are some of my thoughts on driving and commuting in my 1969 Volvo 164, 2 to 4 hours every day in Los Angeles. I adjusted the carbs again as a break from work on the ever-demanding Italian cars in this garage. Save me…
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I've never been a fan keeping a car like a match box car that sits on a shelf and never gets played with. Enjoy your toys.
My daily is an 82 240 K-Jet. Approaching 517,000 miles. I love the 240 lifestyle but the community is something else.
Proof of safety of the 164. I am still here. Really bad highway accident in Gothenburg Sweden in the mid 70´s. Me and my family was completely ok.
But people were a lot smaller back then, now you have big fat people today. The car wouldn't do no good today. So yeah of course Swedish people are a lot smaller. In North America not so much.
@@Slacksfifth I´m almost 2 meters tall and around 130Kg´s. I was of course a child in the 70´s. But the good size runs in the family. Generally speaking, I don´t think we are known for being small in Sweden. I drive a 245 with modified seat to make my legs fit. The only cars i sit ok in is the W140 S-class and the Citroën DS & XM. I´m fortunate enough to have all of them. So there are of course better cars than the Volvo´s. But it´s hard ignoring a car that saved your life.
@@michaelheimbrand5424 sheesh, 120kg, your a big fella. I would like to get my hands on a Citroen XM. There aren't many of those around that has been imported to the U.S. Also not a fan of the w140. The MB W201 is a most favorite, followed by the W116.
I have a 1985 245 that I'm struggling with a bit, has a smattering of issues that are hard to pin down, and yes, leaks. I'm hoping to get on it this summer/spring, but yeah, driving cars this old with great frequency is a struggle. I'm 26, and I'm realizing a bit that it's a tough balance to gain mechanical aptitude and self reliance (which is why I jumped into old cars) while maintaining a normal life with a job and other passions. If can seriously devour time.
If you can use “aptitude” and “self reliance” correctly in a sentence you’re already doing really well! The good news is that the 240 started life as a pretty comfortable and easy machine, and little was changed from your model year through to 1993.
I really enjoy old cars, but believe me I’m not passionate about a career in automotive work. Hobby? Yes. The older I get, the more urgent my life goals feel. Having these toys take my time pulls me away from the dreams I would rather be chasing. It’s like a bad addiction at best, and financial necessity at worst. But I do have a sense of pride in my abilities and understanding of even their smallest mechanical intimacies. But so what? It’s better to chase dreams than vintage car parts.
Eew, a rant.
Best of luck to you. Remember to clean the ignition control module connector!
@@DavidBello i really feel that. i've definitely gotten sucked into spending lots of time and money on keeping two 30+ year old vehicles reliable for me. But I've got to say it does add substantial quality to day-to-day life to just always cruise around in something cool from a different time. I feel a little ashamed having gotten into cars in a lot of ways especially since it's a dying technology and ICE will soon be considered old man nonsense but sometimes you just gotta enjoy the things you enjoy
@@KABOBkabob True.
@@DavidBello I agree with this 100%. When everything is going well and nothing is leaking/broken it's like hell yea this is worth the 4 hours a day I spend after work keeping these old cars with 200,000 plus miles going. But then when you have one with 3 or 4 problems, then daily drive it and it turns into 6 or 7 problems, then your like Ok, this is a bad addiction lol
That Volvo was classed a big car in Britain in it's day , yet those new Volvo's on your drive today are like the size of trucks in comparison !
My thought also! Volvo 140 and 164 were large cars, yet they are small when compared to the most common vehicles they will share the road with today.
It's sad and wrong that SUVs are the default vehicle in "modern times."
David you must be a time traveller from an earlier age. Moderns don't want to know about how having to pay attention while driving makes you a better driver, they want self drive cars, just get me to my destination I don't care how. But there are enough oldies and youngies who do appreciate what you say to keep these old cars alive.
I used my 940 to tow a trailer with concrete pavers today. 4th keeps dropping back to 3rd (solenoid issue) but it was a joy. As you say classic cars are meant to be driven. Fender benders are a risk that must be taken. You of course will minimise the risk by careful driving. An old car, not driven, slowly dies in the garage then one day it's a non starter and it gets to be too much to fixed.
Plus while it has sat in the garage NO ONE has enjoyed driving it.
And I do agree, a daily driver needs to be reliable and comfortable and modern.
Have one of each.
I was born in 1969 and definitely don't think of myself as "almost 60" :D Thanks for making me feel really old! :P
I have a 1973 volvo 144. Tad bit of rust on the sills but its daily driven. It has 62000 miles!
Been driving my -64 Amazon as a daily from May through October when the weather’s nice. Really makes you appreciate simplicity and the joy of actual driving.
Me too. Except mine is a 1967
The 164 brings back so many fine memories to me 🥲
I have a '91 240 as a daily driver. Bought 2 yrs ago. Had to catch up on neglected maintenance. (It sat for 10yrs) and it is a leaker so I keep up on the fluids. Lately I've had comments or " how much?" weekly. It's been a great car. Just have to pay attention to it.
91 240 daily driver also .. ac not working .. otherwise GREAT .
Sara’s 92 240 needs brakes but has working AC and has taken her 1,500 miles a month in this traffic without any break downs
@@DavidBello power steering rack next, working just gets noisy.
@@DavidBello Hi .. love your channel and Volvos natch. Belke ( German work for ceiling rafters ) needs AC fixed .. was quoted $2000.00 plus .. Florida demands it but ...
I LOVE IT!!!! THANKS FOR SHARING!!!!
Great video! I'm in the area in Pasadena and I'm a proud owner of a 1989 volvo 240 DL. In the past year that I've owned the car, its been the PERFECT daily driver and I've put 30,000 miles on my old reliable. I fell in love with my "Brick" because it was so obscure and niche to me but because of that very reason I find it to be a bit lonely being one of relatively few Volvo enthusiasts out here in SoCal. I work at an independent Volvo shop so that kind of helps with that situation but I hope I could run into you on the road some day! I've yet to see a Volvo 164 in person yet and as a diehard Volvo fanatic, I'd LOVE to change that! Again, beautiful story and I'd love to hear more about your journey with your MEGA COOL vintage Volvo.
That was Fabulous. Cheers from the U.K. David.
Advanced my timing to 32 degrees and runs terrific now. Wasn’t Weber problem after all that I had been chasing for two years. Will check fuel economy this month and start to play with jetting😎
Check your eyes top dead center 😂
I have been daily driving a 1986 740 for a decade now. Replaced a lot of parts to be sure it would be reliable, and thankfully it has been so far. A few months ago I ended up buying a 1958 Amazon because I wanted a simpler car with less requirements. Still keeping the 740 so that I have two cars in case one develops an issue and will be undrivable for more than a day. Hopefully both will not be out of commission at the same time!
I drive my 240 30,000 miles a year . It needs attention about once a month, but I don’t care I love drivin it
Thanks for the updates.
Thanks for watching, Cam
So far I'm still enjoying daily driving my 1975 Jaguar XJ6. Keeps up with traffic but like you said requires you to pay more attention
Hey man!, I'm a subscriber of your channel. You have a green xj-40 and a series 2 xj-6 right. 😁
Yes! P2R, let the fun begin!
The 164 is such a cool car. Much cooler than the EV next to it. So small next to those behemoths surrounding it - can you imagine how much carbon emissions go into manufacturing these moderns? Not that carbon is bad for the planet, that is what plants need to grow after all.
Feed the plants!
When i got my 850 t5 i noticed with the windows down and some hard driving id be left with my eyes almost watering from the fumes.. I found the vents in the boot/trunk wells of the cars had been broken and air was free to move in out as it pleased. With my windows open it dragged in the air from the rear of the car. Have a look around the trunk area for holes or gaps. Tape them up like i did and no more fumes in the cabin.
great video
Here is a Con for daily driving one of these... Went out to a classic car cruise. Stop 'n Go traffic. My '73 has the M410. The next day my left knee was hurting. Then I realized! That heavy clutch! Tomorrow I'm taking mine on the longest drive since I took over ownership from my parents in 2016. Going two hours away from home. It's driving well, so I'm not worried.
I only drive classics -- albeit not every day
i had a 1973 164 when i was 18 the swedish model b30 175 hk it was a fun car
3:47 Look how tiny it looks between those new cars. Back in the day this was considered a big family car.
Trying to get my 62’ chevy wagon as a daily driver. Having issues with my distributor/timing still. Ugh
It’s a lot of work driving it but love it. 3 on tree with overdrive with straight 6 😊😁love the video
Lovely car.
Ho li chit. I literally just bought an 04 S60 R in silver. Nord k interior tho(which personally i like better than the orange). But hell yes. Looking forward to the journey togather
I expect eye rolls in every video now
@@DavidBello ask and ye shall receive
Dave, use the lightest key chain in the ignition lock. Also, come to a complete stop, press the clutch fully in, place the gear shift in third / fourth to stop the gear box shaft spin, and with fully pressed clutch pedal;, engage third. Should be no grind. Grind is bad. Also, when at a sustained stop, disengage the gear and release the clutch pedal. Pressing the clutch pedal at a RxR or or red light can cause faster clutch complement wear. Thank you.
]ove seeing this old girl still out and about on the road. It is so sad to see them fully restored and then parked up as a piece of garage jewellery
I could drive my ES everyday if it had A/C. Have you ever installed Vintage Air?
I've got a 76 245DL with 285k and no leaks (albeit with a complete engine rebuild at 215K). My uncle Stan's (RIP) baby he bought new at Volvo of Orange. Was my L.A. daily driver for two years - '05-'07 but alas I too could not handle no A/C.
My 1967 Amazon (in the UK) is my frequent (not quite daily) driver; requires no annual emissions test; is road tax exempt and full comprehensive insurance is only $150 a year. There is no lower cost vehicle on the roads. Oh, and did I mention that I get a crowd gather around it, wherever I go?
Iv just got myself a 1969 volvo 144 B20 i will not be driving it very much only on sundays i also have a 1983 toyota corolla ke70 which i drive 3 times a week but i daily drive a 2012 nissan march that me and my wife share but i will not let my wife drive my two classic cars there my babys my toys and most of all my pride and joy
The good thing about having a classic car, parts availability, easier to work on, not like the modern cars that have, sensors, or computerized equipment some insurance has a coverage por the 240 240, and further back which in comparison, is cheaper,
Yes that is a big bonus. I had fun doing a head gasket on a B20 recently, and it was beyond simple to finish in 7 hours. That’s coming up soon in another video. But I do like the certain models which have the right balance of electronic convenience and reliability. I guess that’s more Toyota, because all P2/3 Volvos want VIDA/DICE to tell you what the problem even is! Though many a pre-OBD (d-jet, k-jet, LH2.0) user is stumped by the difficulty of proper flow-chart diagnostics. I guess it depends on where/how you wish to become proficient.
@@DavidBello Hey! David, what is your opinion of the B21 motor, in the early 240's?
Hey Dave love the video but did I hear right that you are replacing the 164 daily with an s60R? I hope you have a scan tool.
Oh I’ll be schmoozing anyone with DICE near me
Dear David Bello.
👍👌👏 This is a well done resume.
So what is your life dream? Maybe becoming a well known and successful actor? At least in my opinion you have all the prerequisites for a career like that (for instance: I will never forget the extremely impressive performance you did with showing the wonderful Lexus). Or would you like to be a documentary maker? What is it, Mr. Bello? If it isn't too private or a secret, I would appreciate to know your plans for the future (besides the oldtimer/Volvo hobby). Will we viewers at least always have the pleasure to watch this channel with it's great content?
2) I simply don't know respectively I'm not able to understand why you are struggling around so much with carburetors instead of having a reliable fuel injection. What I do understand is, that when you park a car and only drive it once a year or even less, carburetors can be better respectively easier to maintain/repair.
3) Do you think that Volvo oldtimer cars are kind of leaky because of bigger tolerances?
4) Are you planning to kind of fix the gorgeous green paint on at least Ivy's trunk hood? Maybe a kind of patina repair = spraying new paint on and kind of roughing it afterwards so that it matches the surrounding old, original paint? I would definitely love to see something like that. Additionally I think that Ivy deserves to look a little bit better.
As always: Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards, luck and health to all of you.
1) definitely to be a working actor. Movies, TV, voice over, theatre, I’ll take any work where I can get it. I can’t seem to get away from old Volvos so the channel is at no risk of going stale.
2) I could turn Ivy to fuel injection, but it’s all a matter of resources/priorities. I like keeping a car stock whenever possible, and I made the road trip without the opportunity to rebuild the carbs. Afterwards, I had no money to do so.
Lately my xc90 has been in the shop, so my 164 has been the daily driver in 2022. Ergo, my thoughts here. The XC90 is also a bit too inefficient with fuel consumption for my long daily commutes to all the odd jobs I have to work to make these ends meet. In short, it’s the classic inverse relationship between wanting time to do things and having to work for the ability to have them.
3) it may be bigger tolerances, but definitely seal design and technology has improved with newer cars. Much of this could also just be user error when installing, or imperfections in the various brands of gaskets to imperfections in the mismatched pieces I installed from various old B30 engines. In the case of the rear main seal and transmission leak, it’s due to things that were beyond my immediate repair (groove in crank, clearance in tunnel) and I’ll have to remove the transmission to get a second attempt at sealing. That’s a big job for me to do without pay, and I instead top off fluids as necessary.
4) that idea has been in my head a lot lately. Matching the paint is the big trouble. I would love a “cheap” factory green paint job, but I’ll need the time to put the car away and have other drivers. Plus the more I think about it, the more it’s worth it to get past “cheap” and give Ivy a quality paint job. Since that would make the seats stick out like a sore thumb, the budget snowballs a bit, and I end up doing nothing. Your idea for the coverage and weathering of at least the rusted/faded portions is the best next step.
The big next step for my household this year is moving to a place with a garage and space for me to work from home. I have a customer car that I want to fix up for a good amount of money for my time, and I won’t have to commute 2-4 hours every day. Wish me luck. Thanks for your comments :)
Have you made a comparison of the older volvos and the one*s that have yo be charged up,
The best thing in a vintage car built before 1975, they have no catalytic converter to steal.
I wonder where my Prius cats are today, and if they think of me too once in a while…
Dieseling is usually caused by incorrect ignition timing.
Yup and I had to retard to 5° to minimise pinging. Just need to rebuild the carbs and decarbonise the engine and we should be right as rain.
@@DavidBello Using the highest octane gas you can get helps.
It would be cheaper to insure under Hagerty. I pay $200 a year for my 2 classic cars.
They won’t cover me unless I can fully cover the cars in an enclosed garage. Underground shared parking isn’t enough for them
Debating on saving a 67 amazon 122s but its an automatic just dont know where in la county to take it to get it back on the road
How’s the XC90 V8 these days?
I pick it up in a few days from the shop with a fresh new valve body 🤑
I love these old Volvos. As you probably know, I had a 87 242 turbo. My best car I ever owned. Hate to tell you that gas will be 25 dollars a gal. soon in California. Get the hell out of there before shit hits the fan David.
Does that mean it will be $24 everywhere else?
Nope, just in Cali. I just filled up in Ohio, it was 3 bucks a gal. You go.
Praying 🙏 the hydrocarbons didn't damage your eyelashes....those pre catalytic cars are death traps...
Are you healthy enough to make it to the country club?
I'm a concerned viewer
s60r eh,
I feel sorry for the poster.....How can you afford it all?
The oldness on the 126 is a PRO not a con when it comes to an accident.... The 126 is STEEL where as BOTH those new cars are 90% plastic, take your steel hammer and whack one of those new cars PLASTIC bumper and then take your plastic hammer and hit the STELL bumper on that 126 and see which one takes more damage...... IF you got into a wreck with them both your not only going to walk away in that in 126 your PROBALLY going to DRIVE away, that Volvo weighs 2736 lbs of STEEL, that 2022 is 3200 ish of plastic, Also that 126 is an absolute BLAST to drive as compared to either of those newer car your just a lemming following everyone off the cliff because that 126 has SOUL and the 2022 is a soulless hunk of plastic.... I've daily driven a 1977 Buick Skylark for the last 15 years and have 5k, MAYBE into it, and that includes the $800 I paid for it. Over that 15 years my brother has bought 4 new cars and made payments on each one of those and then he wonders why I have money to travel and go on vacation..... it's because I drive a NICE older car that will literally last me forever and he's making payment after payment after payment for a car he has to throw away in 200,000 miles because that's all it's built to last for. and when i rebuild my classic engine engine and trans I can do it over a 3 day weekend with my buddy and a case of beer, it takes a team of techs and engineers 6 weeks worth of planning and work just to change your oil in the new cars. Give me my classic with natural soul any day over these newer soul less hunks of plastic.
looks a lot like Orange County
Why do you have two new xc90s…
Not mine. I don’t even have a driveway of my own
😄 same. Hey Los Angeles Volvo owner here, '90 240DL. Love this car. Bought for my son, now we work on it together :) Have replaced tail light assemblies, brake light switch, of course tune ups and just recently, brake junction block. Some things coming up next week. It's a juggling act- work for what you really want and time for that. Just keep on keeping on. Sometimes, you gotta put one thing down for awhile, but that's okay, you get back to it. Just keep up with all your interests as you can. And sometimes, bust ass make some dough to put into your passions. Driving a classic in L.A...watch out for potholes, leave an hour early, ignore the drivers tailgating. Ha I was in my old 73 Beetle on the freeway and got tailgated by an idiot in a Lamborghini 😆 Rock on
Almost 60?
Damn those volovs are ugly af without r design