I advised my sons to watch 2 Films on particular 'PINK' & 'THAPPAD', before they embarked on their College studies. Gender sensitive Films help us in sanitizing the Patriarchal & Misogynistic thoughts.
1. People who have not gone through this horror can only read statistics. I'd have loved to see these priviledged women talk about what they're doing about it. 2. How ironic that the defendant of the perpetrator of such heinouscrime is initiating this conversation. 3. In a country which has been going backwards for a decade, a large % of women hardly have the right to speak for themselves, leave alone educate their son. 4. I'm apalled with this doctor who says "the kind of people we have in India", they have to rely on collegues in hospital for protection. Are patients/ their attendants the perpetrators? Has he ever heard about RG Kar case? Why is she even a doctor? She has no empathy 5. They think working women are only in cities who will hire an uber driven by a woman driver to go home after work... ....such a waste of screen time!
Again, mothers have to teach the son. BUT the father continues to talk about and treat women, other and their own families in the worst possible way. It's the role of the father/man of the family here that determines what the boys learn.
I think it's an excellent topic but missing two critical elements. First and second, there should have been a criminal psychologist and a sociologist. I think that would have made this discussion deeper.
And ADVOCATE KAPIL SIBAL WAS LAUGHING WHEN DEFENDING THE STATE OF WB IN RG KAR CASE. ITS AN ADVOCATES JOB TO DEFEND HIS CLIENTS BUT TO LAUGH WHILE ARGUING SUCH A SENSITIVE AND SAD CASE IS DEPLORABLE.
In New Delhi rape case during Congress regime none lawyer stands by the rapist ie the staff of bus. We can't understand how you address in favour of the government protecting them and rackets are done the henious crime. All the state institutions are corrupted since 2014. 75 percent of collection goes to Kalighat, the HQ. Inhabitants of WB expectation was transparency. But it is reversed. So, common people including Doctors are on the street. They are calling you kapila and Chandrabora, a snake. No judgement on DA case, SSC , Abhaya and tarikh pe tarikh .
You are jumping the guns. If you don't know why is it happening then how are you going to stop it. Without understanding the reason and circumstance which led to an occurence, you are shooting in the blind to take corrective actions.
If these kinds of renowned lawyers will defend a criminal conspiracy by a sitting state government and hospital authority then the future of criminals are very bright in India 😢. Shameless fellow
The patriarchy is the root cause and I would say point blank with our Hindu (Sanathana) Religion, the culture based on our religion and our discriminatory caste system. Let the educated lot in the country think about casteless society and reforms required indeed in our religion. What are we doing? Who are we in the world of civilized people? Are we called modern India with civilised culture?
More privileged women should help the less privileged girls/women on education. One can always use online platforms for this. Thankfully the technology is available. Only the will is needed.
Correct,. When someone from abroad comes to know about such things, theyll say its an 'Indian' doing it. And they'll judge each & every one of us as such. To them we are all the same. And ultimately, every state has regions where crimes against women are rampant.
Yes sir, the hindu patriarchal society is the reason for the rate of 35% rapes. Per contra, the data from the free-world west show that pre-marital sex among the teens stands at more than 80%. This means that they complete sexual intercourse, whether or not they complete their graduation courses. Unless the hindu society adopts the western, christian free-sex society it can never bring down the hindu average of 35% rapes to Christian average of 27% rapes.
This episode was problematic on so many levels. First, the panel did not quite seem to know how to engage in a deeper conversation about crimes against women (except the young lawyer who was at least trying). I wonder who chose the panel. They don't seem like they had any real knowledge, insights, and value to add to the conversation. Infact, it looked like Kapil Sibal didn't want to have a real, thought provoking discussion about the issue and chose a light chatter where he came across as the most knowledgeable for which the panel was chosen accordingly. What's worse is that the entire onus of ensuring security for women was put on women themselves - the mother should teach the son, the woman should be more confident and assertive, there should be more schools so girls understand the value of an education. All completely ridiculous and naive comments to make. Not once was the issue of the responsibility and accountability of men raised. Even the fathers were spared from teaching gender equality to their sons! Needless to say, the conversation was misogynistic. The banker says you need a supportive husband while blaming patriarchy for crimes against women. The notion of the need for approval from the "husband" is patriarchal in itself. The dentist couldn't fathom why a pregnant woman should be assured job security once she is ready to return to work. And Kapil Sibal brushed off and even laughed at the idea that men should contribute to the household and cook. Not a very credible end to the show! And yes, of all the people, Kapil Sibal doing this show was hypocritical to say the least. Please spare us this kind of dumbed-down discourse in the future. There are so many women (and some men) who understand the real issues about crimes against women and they would've made this episode far more worth watching.
Meanwhile, The Wire's columnist Jawahar Sircar had a belated realisation that far from being an intellectual giant that he wants to be, he had actually become a moral pygmy by taking up the lucre of RS seat from TMC. He has now resigned from the party.
Societal problems, specially lacking in moralistic values, needs correction through teachings of reasonings and logics; and this calls for action taking by all stakeholders. More particularly, the political parties, ruling as well as opposition, must acknowledge and take lead. Regards!
Kapil Sibal, who is defending a government in covering up a rape case is being called for a discussion on women's safety? Cummon Wire you have more responsibility than this. Don't be just like the other side of the same coin
This advocate is least bothered about women. That is why he is supporting Rahul and Congress. He is dead against Modiji and our government. We need CMs like Yogis in every state. So the raping will drastically reduced.
Kapil Sibal may be, inner of his heart, a staunch hindu. He wants every hindu to be strictly moral. He thinks he can't expect the same level of moral behaviors from free sex west and other violent religions.
Territorial establishment and alimony but regressive laws make us men tear by against men by women equal society not empower words power make wrong motion
Societal issue our society has lived for the last 2000 yrs yes near realative do the act mothers must teach sons to behave properly with women it starts with parents they listen to the society and abandon their daughters
35% of women and 70% men face societal norms n social problems also die due to of men disrespect n father getting taunt backlash from mother that you are not supportive to home then that's also vice versa karma n negative side consequences
Sare moorkh ek sath baith k charcha karte h or khud ko sabse jyada gyani smjhte h AC room mein baithkar badi badi baate karna bahut asaan h sahab ye bharat ha gareebo ka desh america nhi h
Government employee ki wife ko 10000 rs per month milta hai court se isko jyada karvaye Supreme Court me janhit yachika lagaye agar such me kuch krna hai to
The women have take care of their health and wealth. Unfortunately, most husbands have very low or almost no emotional intelligence. And women have to think of the worst case scenario and act accordingly. Do not wait for Prince Charming. What if the woman in the house gets sick later in life, who will be there for her?
It's not going to be easy to implement what's being talked about here. 1.4 billion people are not easy to manage. We don't know about China for obvious reasons. Even USA with 320 million population does not do very well in this index. But before conducting such a moral talk show, I wonder who Mr Sibal is defending with his 21 lawyers in the SC!
Ok build men commission if women can support men after preconceived notion in human society both humanitarian commission and without any individual people caste religion and system against gender biased morality equality and neutrality basic equivalent laws hona chahiye na ki gender moral, integral, n neutral n equal laws judiciary
This episode exposed the hollowness of the privileged women😂 It was funny to watch Kapil Sibal struggling to bring in some sense into the episode. 😂😂 What a waste of time and resources!
I used to be a regular viewer of the show, loved the enlightening discussion of Mr. Sibal with various dignitaries, people of high esteem, but not anymore, I am going to unsubscribe the channel, cannot follow show conducted by a (not so) gentleman, whose stand is not only against the doctors, but women as a whole, Mr. Sibal's fight for the Mamata (read Lady Modi) govt makes him at par, and similar to the "Advocates of Rape" we find today acrods WB, the only difference being they all have a TMC flag with them, which I won't be surprised to see Sibal holding in the near future, like Sagarika did, anyone with any connection with the TMChors is a thug, pro-rape, thief who are shameless to the core, no matter who they are
So kapil sibbal is definding the crimnal he also has a daughter if i am not wrong same happen with her daughter sister the also he will defend the crimnal.
He absolutely did NOT. His opening remarks clearly stated his underling/guest was so agitated by what happened and that is why she was requested to appear on this programme. Please look at the holistic topic instead of criticising for the sake of commenting and do not get personal.
Nothing wrong with a man talking of women's issues a false mindset that only women know women's problems. They talked about co-ed schools/being inclusive. Am a mother of 3 boys my sons should not defend women as they are not women themselves? Chose to live in the West after education in India. My Malaysian Hindu 4th generation was her Mother-in-laws carer who accused her of showing her boobs. I suggested no men here but told my friend it is ok for a 25 year old bride (HER) to change father-in-laws nappy/handle his genitals but wearing a low cut T shirt is Wrong.
If not him someone else will, irrespective of how much s/he is against rapes because the constitution of the country mandates a fair trial for all. If no one will take up defend the culprit, then the court will appoint one otherwise the trial cannot proceed and the victim will never get the justice. The issue is getting timely justice which doesn't happen, at least in our country.
Interestingly He is trying to Generaliise all incidents. Timing is Important. It is not that such Incidents suddenly happening during Aug Sep 24. Never before Mr. Sibal had tweeted to inspire us to find out the reason WHY? 😂 On contrary He had emphasized about Place. 😂 But WHY this time he is focusing upon the REASON because his hidden agenda is showing this as a social problem like the WB Govt trying hard in R G Kar issue. Mr. Sibal you have every right to defend your Client in Court but please don't try to influence us by taking brief of your Client i.e WB Govt in Social Media. Mr. Sibal R G Kar incident is not the same even not similar with other such incidents of WB. When do you feel that if RGKar incident is same with others then WHY Lakhs of COMMON people of WB continuosly Demanding Justice since last ONE MONTH and ralliyng whole night without exception? Come here and See the aggrived common peple on road on 8th Sep. WHERE is More important in RG Kar case because Govt Adminstration, Police, Top Level Beurocrats Healh Admin and Ministers are trying hard to cover up the culprit/s and waeken the case by burning the dead body without the consent of Guardians of the Victim. It is not a mere case of Rape and Murder only. You know better than me sir. 1 lakh Doctors and Medical Students suffered a lot, harrased, their prospects were doomed by the Racket of Medical Mafia since last 8 years or more. This Medical Mafia racket is responsible for the incident. That is why, WHERE IS MORE IMPORTANT here in RG Kar Care. You may try hard to Generalise this but people of WB know for whom you are fighting in Supreme Court. YOU MAY BE A RENOWNED very Sr. ADVOCATE but WE ARE NOT FOOL😂😂 😂😂😊
I advised my sons to watch 2 Films on particular 'PINK' & 'THAPPAD', before they embarked on their College studies. Gender sensitive Films help us in sanitizing the Patriarchal & Misogynistic thoughts.
Exactly Correct, Why it happened and how such heinous crimes can be prevented in the future 💯💯💯
1. People who have not gone through this horror can only read statistics. I'd have loved to see these priviledged women talk about what they're doing about it.
2. How ironic that the defendant of the perpetrator of such heinouscrime is initiating this conversation.
3. In a country which has been going backwards for a decade, a large % of women hardly have the right to speak for themselves, leave alone educate their son.
4. I'm apalled with this doctor who says "the kind of people we have in India", they have to rely on collegues in hospital for protection. Are patients/ their attendants the perpetrators? Has he ever heard about RG Kar case? Why is she even a doctor? She has no empathy
5. They think working women are only in cities who will hire an uber driven by a woman driver to go home after work...
....such a waste of screen time!
Again, mothers have to teach the son. BUT the father continues to talk about and treat women, other and their own families in the worst possible way. It's the role of the father/man of the family here that determines what the boys learn.
I think it's an excellent topic but missing two critical elements. First and second, there should have been a criminal psychologist and a sociologist. I think that would have made this discussion deeper.
Episode needs to be Shared with
Children.Also.!!👍
Why do you stand with the Govt of west bengal? Dubious, aren't?
Rapes are happening all over the country. Pointing out a single state is just hypocritical. 😅
please do this kind of show for common public in urdu or hindi so common person can understand.
Kapil sab aapka style bahot hi pyara hai, it’s too long but full episode dekhna padta hai .Keep it up Sir
And ADVOCATE KAPIL SIBAL WAS LAUGHING WHEN DEFENDING THE STATE OF WB IN RG KAR CASE. ITS AN ADVOCATES JOB TO DEFEND HIS CLIENTS BUT TO LAUGH WHILE ARGUING SUCH A SENSITIVE AND SAD CASE IS DEPLORABLE.
In New Delhi rape case during Congress regime none lawyer stands by the rapist ie the staff of bus. We can't understand how you address in favour of the government protecting them and rackets are done the henious crime. All the state institutions are corrupted since 2014. 75 percent of collection goes to Kalighat, the HQ. Inhabitants of WB expectation was transparency. But it is reversed. So, common people including Doctors are on the street. They are calling you kapila and Chandrabora, a snake. No judgement on DA case, SSC , Abhaya and tarikh pe tarikh .
Women in India are also responsible for patriatchal mindset .It starts from home. How do we bring up our sons?
Conversation should be on How to stop it.
You are jumping the guns. If you don't know why is it happening then how are you going to stop it. Without understanding the reason and circumstance which led to an occurence, you are shooting in the blind to take corrective actions.
If these kinds of renowned lawyers will defend a criminal conspiracy by a sitting state government and hospital authority then the future of criminals are very bright in India 😢. Shameless fellow
The patriarchy is the root cause and I would say point blank with our Hindu (Sanathana) Religion, the culture based on our religion and our discriminatory caste system.
Let the educated lot in the country think about casteless society and reforms required indeed in our religion. What are we doing? Who are we in the world of civilized people? Are we called modern India with civilised culture?
Why are they not talking about elephant in the room "capitalism"
More privileged women should help the less privileged girls/women on education. One can always use online platforms for this. Thankfully the technology is available. Only the will is needed.
Correct,. When someone from abroad comes to know about such things, theyll say its an 'Indian' doing it. And they'll judge each & every one of us as such. To them we are all the same. And ultimately, every state has regions where crimes against women are rampant.
Yes sir, the hindu patriarchal society is the reason for the rate of 35% rapes.
Per contra, the data from the free-world west show that pre-marital sex among the teens stands at more than 80%.
This means that they complete sexual intercourse, whether or not they complete their graduation courses.
Unless the hindu society adopts the western, christian free-sex society it can never bring down the hindu average of 35% rapes to Christian average of 27% rapes.
This episode was problematic on so many levels. First, the panel did not quite seem to know how to engage in a deeper conversation about crimes against women (except the young lawyer who was at least trying). I wonder who chose the panel. They don't seem like they had any real knowledge, insights, and value to add to the conversation. Infact, it looked like Kapil Sibal didn't want to have a real, thought provoking discussion about the issue and chose a light chatter where he came across as the most knowledgeable for which the panel was chosen accordingly.
What's worse is that the entire onus of ensuring security for women was put on women themselves - the mother should teach the son, the woman should be more confident and assertive, there should be more schools so girls understand the value of an education. All completely ridiculous and naive comments to make. Not once was the issue of the responsibility and accountability of men raised. Even the fathers were spared from teaching gender equality to their sons!
Needless to say, the conversation was misogynistic. The banker says you need a supportive husband while blaming patriarchy for crimes against women. The notion of the need for approval from the "husband" is patriarchal in itself. The dentist couldn't fathom why a pregnant woman should be assured job security once she is ready to return to work. And Kapil Sibal brushed off and even laughed at the idea that men should contribute to the household and cook. Not a very credible end to the show!
And yes, of all the people, Kapil Sibal doing this show was hypocritical to say the least.
Please spare us this kind of dumbed-down discourse in the future. There are so many women (and some men) who understand the real issues about crimes against women and they would've made this episode far more worth watching.
Meanwhile, The Wire's columnist Jawahar Sircar had a belated realisation that far from being an intellectual giant that he wants to be, he had actually become a moral pygmy by taking up the lucre of RS seat from TMC. He has now resigned from the party.
Societal problems, specially lacking in moralistic values, needs correction through teachings of reasonings and logics; and this calls for action taking by all stakeholders. More particularly, the political parties, ruling as well as opposition, must acknowledge and take lead. Regards!
Mr. Kapil Sibal, you should not speak on this issue, you, in the Supreme Court defend a most corrupt Govt.
Can we have similar discussion with only male participants ? What they think about how to end the menace?
Company manager owner are responsible on women's safety working place
This has been insightful
जय-जय सविंधान जय-जय कांग्रेस
Please do not 'respect'. Treat us like a fellow citizen. Females have equal rights as males
Kapil Sibal, who is defending a government in covering up a rape case is being called for a discussion on women's safety? Cummon Wire you have more responsibility than this. Don't be just like the other side of the same coin
This advocate is least bothered about women. That is why he is supporting Rahul and Congress. He is dead against Modiji and our government. We need CMs like Yogis in every state. So the raping will drastically reduced.
Wherever there is any criminal activity that involves a non BJP government, kapil sibal will be there to support the criminality
Kapil Sibal may be, inner of his heart, a staunch hindu. He wants every hindu to be strictly moral. He thinks he can't expect the same level of moral behaviors from free sex west and other violent religions.
Why the latest video was removed?????
Make women education compulsory by law
make it be free
So many children killed by their mothers, women. Teach women not to kill children. Yeah.
अच्छी चर्चा है।
This is socioeconomic-relogous and lack of proper education
Exclusivity creates separation of gender morality individual equality and neutrality
Moral financial equal education and system equality not integrity
All IPS officers know
they do not apply where they work
The reason it happens is the patriarchy is striking back, the independence is not acceptable to man
Territorial establishment and alimony but regressive laws make us men tear by against men by women equal society not empower words power make wrong motion
Societal issue
our society has lived for the last 2000 yrs
yes near realative do the act
mothers must teach sons to behave properly with women
it starts with parents
they listen to the society
and abandon their daughters
can we stop interrupting women and let them speak please?
People prone to criminality enjoy illgoten money and easy acces to powers that be is one of the causes.
35% of women and 70% men face societal norms n social problems also die due to of men disrespect n father getting taunt backlash from mother that you are not supportive to home then that's also vice versa karma n negative side consequences
Sare moorkh ek sath baith k charcha karte h or khud ko sabse jyada gyani smjhte h AC room mein baithkar badi badi baate karna bahut asaan h sahab ye bharat ha gareebo ka desh america nhi h
Aapka current video ko private aap kyon kiye
why to spin ? temporary solution is as important as permanent solution.
Government employee ki wife ko 10000 rs per month milta hai court se isko jyada karvaye
Supreme Court me janhit yachika lagaye agar such me kuch krna hai to
The women have take care of their health and wealth. Unfortunately, most husbands have very low or almost no emotional intelligence. And women have to think of the worst case scenario and act accordingly. Do not wait for Prince Charming. What if the woman in the house gets sick later in life, who will be there for her?
This day kapil sibbal is being used as an 'galli 'here in bengal 😂😂😂...and she is talking about women safety 😂😂😂😂
Instead of ladies discussion should have been with Gents.
Rajasthan ke kitne hi school college me girls toilet nhi hain
University women gold medalsit
are married it is the fault of parents and society
when they build medical school
they must ensure rest room for women
If not politics then why bring caste into 😢😅
It's not going to be easy to implement what's being talked about here. 1.4 billion people are not easy to manage. We don't know about China for obvious reasons. Even USA with 320 million population does not do very well in this index.
But before conducting such a moral talk show, I wonder who Mr Sibal is defending with his 21 lawyers in the SC!
MR KAPIL YOU ARE A MONEY SHARK
Ok build men commission if women can support men after preconceived notion in human society both humanitarian commission and without any individual people caste religion and system against gender biased morality equality and neutrality basic equivalent laws hona chahiye na ki gender moral, integral, n neutral n equal laws judiciary
Above all other reasons George sorros investment in various media is also reason to destabilise the nation😊
This episode exposed the hollowness of the privileged women😂
It was funny to watch Kapil Sibal struggling to bring in some sense into the episode. 😂😂
What a waste of time and resources!
But, why did you fight the case in favour of Mamata. in the rape case, Kapil Sibal?
It is people having money and power and Muslim dare to do such things and with power purchase services of lawyers and get Scot free.
As if Hindus are Paragon of Virtues, particularly those who belong to the so called high castes
I used to be a regular viewer of the show, loved the enlightening discussion of Mr. Sibal with various dignitaries, people of high esteem, but not anymore, I am going to unsubscribe the channel, cannot follow show conducted by a (not so) gentleman, whose stand is not only against the doctors, but women as a whole, Mr. Sibal's fight for the Mamata (read Lady Modi) govt makes him at par, and similar to the "Advocates of Rape" we find today acrods WB, the only difference being they all have a TMC flag with them, which I won't be surprised to see Sibal holding in the near future, like Sagarika did, anyone with any connection with the TMChors is a thug, pro-rape, thief who are shameless to the core, no matter who they are
Please try to ban all porn videos and sources of it
The wire is still calling the criminal supporter Kapil Sibbal. Are you dead from inside?
So kapil sibbal is definding the crimnal he also has a daughter if i am not wrong same happen with her daughter sister the also he will defend the crimnal.
He absolutely did NOT. His opening remarks clearly stated his underling/guest was so agitated by what happened and that is why she was requested to appear on this programme. Please look at the holistic topic instead of criticising for the sake of commenting and do not get personal.
Ab kya aapko bhi dar lagta hai sacchai dikhane ke liye
Shame on u kapil sibbal bengal mein tum mamta sarkar ki taraf se jis ladki ka rape hua uske against case lad rahe ho
Is this a joke? Kapil Sibal talking about crimes against women? For a start he can try NOT defending people who commit crimes against women.
Nothing wrong with a man talking of women's issues a false mindset that only women know women's problems. They talked about co-ed schools/being inclusive. Am a mother of 3 boys my sons should not defend women as they are not women themselves? Chose to live in the West after education in India. My Malaysian Hindu 4th generation was her Mother-in-laws carer who accused her of showing her boobs. I suggested no men here but told my friend it is ok for a 25 year old bride (HER) to change father-in-laws nappy/handle his genitals but wearing a low cut T shirt is Wrong.
Why are you defending the WEST BENGAL govt ? Hypocrite
If not him someone else will, irrespective of how much s/he is against rapes because the constitution of the country mandates a fair trial for all. If no one will take up defend the culprit, then the court will appoint one otherwise the trial cannot proceed and the victim will never get the justice. The issue is getting timely justice which doesn't happen, at least in our country.
Mission of gajwa a hind plus lifted
Interestingly He is trying to Generaliise all incidents. Timing is Important. It is not that such Incidents suddenly happening during Aug Sep 24. Never before Mr. Sibal had tweeted to inspire us to find out the reason WHY? 😂 On contrary He had emphasized about Place. 😂 But WHY this time he is focusing upon the REASON because his hidden agenda is showing this as a social problem like the WB Govt trying hard in R G Kar issue. Mr. Sibal you have every right to defend your Client in Court but please don't try to influence us by taking brief of your Client i.e WB Govt in Social Media. Mr. Sibal R G Kar incident is not the same even not similar with other such incidents of WB. When do you feel that if RGKar incident is same with others then WHY Lakhs of COMMON people of WB continuosly Demanding Justice since last ONE MONTH and ralliyng whole night without exception? Come here and See the aggrived common peple on road on 8th Sep. WHERE is More important in RG Kar case because Govt Adminstration, Police, Top Level Beurocrats Healh Admin and Ministers are trying hard to cover up the culprit/s and waeken the case by burning the dead body without the consent of Guardians of the Victim. It is not a mere case of Rape and Murder only. You know better than me sir. 1 lakh Doctors and Medical Students suffered a lot, harrased, their prospects were doomed by the Racket of Medical Mafia since last 8 years or more. This Medical Mafia racket is responsible for the incident. That is why, WHERE IS MORE IMPORTANT here in RG Kar Care. You may try hard to Generalise this but people of WB know for whom you are fighting in Supreme Court. YOU MAY BE A RENOWNED very Sr. ADVOCATE but WE ARE NOT FOOL😂😂 😂😂😊