Aha.. I have to replay a few times to make sure no missing of any words. Again, it is the most valuable Cantonese motor youtube channel I have ever experienced so far! Thank you Ling sir and Top Gear HK for the productions.
ACR30 Estima/Previa/Tarago uses independent (Macpherson) struts on the rear. The next generation GSR50 uses torsion beam. I have noticed GSR50 seems to have tighter cornering, especially at speed but also seems to have rougher ride. I thought the torsion beam design was just to save space to allow the seats to fold flat but now I know there was probably also a conscious trade-off between the toe-in/toe-out characteristics of the torsion beam rear to improve handling vs the ride comfort from the all independent rear suspension design on the earlier gen model. Thanks 龍Sir 😀 !!
Excellent episode !! Looking forward to more suspension geometry/kinematics episodes. This can be @EngineeringExplained in cantonese. Can I suggest you cover topics like wheel and tyre size choices, wheel (re-)alignment and perhaps corner weight balancing ?
絕對支持!龍 Sir 👍🏻😊 講 unsprung weight與Torsion Beam非常精彩,無記錯常年159 就靠Torsion Beam 技術,以頭轆車贏了3系,拎左某D雜誌car of the year. 由結構如:雙搖臂、麥花臣、多連竿,到彈弓 damper軟硬,車架與避震調較、sway bar軟硬,杯士、塔頂軟硬,camber正負角、toe in out等,避震太多野可以講,兩集可能唔夠😊
老實講句,香港其他汽車UA-camr.邊有龍sir講得咁深入,龍sir絕對係寶!實至名歸。
龍sir講機械好有吸引力 我做車房都忍唔住聽多啲
龍sir真係好叻好有料, 扭力樑附助轉向呢點真係接近無youtuber 講過, 多謝賜教。
真心學到野
因為扭力樑d車,通常係下價車,操控上係最差,無乜好講🤣
@@heikei1236 吓?扭力樑無操控?
你望吓Ford Fiesta, VW Polo, 第四代Mazda3先講。
@@jasonyu6649 咁係咪好得過獨立懸吊先?🤣🤣
@@heikei1236 咁啲辣嘅頭轆車用咩?
每次聽龍sir講學都長知識。多謝你
10:11 loop 咗幾次
龍sir Never gonna give you up
i like to move it move it~
好多人都冇講過原來Torsion Beam可以令尾轆Toe in/out嘅特性!!又學到嘢了
對torsion beam 改觀,加分加分
雖然以前都聽過這類題材,但龍 sir 講得深淺適中,圖像雖不算靚但勝在清楚易明,又有實際車例子,尤其是講到舊的士左右搖的經驗,真是直接引發兒時回憶,讚!
好深奧,要睇多幾次😂😂
BTW 第一次聽扭力樑可以幫助轉向,thank you 龍sir🙏
多謝龍 sir 嘅解釋
呢集真係學到好多嘢,期待下次嘅精彩內容
A lot of good information, and come with English subtitle . Well done👍👍👍
CD-ROM 都要留句comment先
多謝龍SIR 賜教
多謝龍sir, 終於搞清部雪鐵龍Ds5扭力梁點解咁神奇,尤其轉彎部車整體感非常好。
龙师傅讲解unsprung weight越轻越好。那是否换轻量化的轮胎会更好?
非常喜歡看龍sir,有關汽車的知識,每次也令我獲益良多,今次所講的懸掛系統,非常之清楚和扼要,令我能夠掌握基本的知識。期待有關麥花臣和雙懸肩的介紹。經常看汽車廣告,也提過這個名詞,根本不清楚是什麼。
Aha.. I have to replay a few times to make sure no missing of any words. Again, it is the most valuable Cantonese motor youtube channel I have ever experienced so far! Thank you Ling sir and Top Gear HK for the productions.
睇完今集,好期待下集的雙搖臂、麥花臣
正呀!期待咗呢個topic好耐!
深入淺出,我係外行嘅聽完有撥開雲霧嘅感覺。
多謝龍Sir and TopGear HK
好精彩,就算我一個唔識車嘅人都聽得明,龍sir真係好有料
謝謝!
揸完部氣擔旅遊巴,轉咗揸部5擔貨艇,個人隨時彈咗上天花板……
ACR30 Estima/Previa/Tarago uses independent (Macpherson) struts on the rear. The next generation GSR50 uses torsion beam. I have noticed GSR50 seems to have tighter cornering, especially at speed but also seems to have rougher ride. I thought the torsion beam design was just to save space to allow the seats to fold flat but now I know there was probably also a conscious trade-off between the toe-in/toe-out characteristics of the torsion beam rear to improve handling vs the ride comfort from the all independent rear suspension design on the earlier gen model. Thanks 龍Sir 😀 !!
謝謝!
great I have never heard of this in any other channels
今集好正👍
等待你講下一集,非常有幫助明白更多知識。
best 13 minutes ever spent on youtube!! thank you.
唔知點解,聽龍Sir講野好舒服,好專心!
絕對唔會錯過,
實在精彩
龍sir絕對係坚!
龍Sir嘅影片真係好有用,新手睇完可以增進知識,老手又可以溫故知新,更可以改進自以為啱嘅錯誤,獲益良多,多謝指點👍
謝謝!
學到好多嘢, 多謝龍sir
多謝龍sir, 之前響其他英文channel上過堂, 始終都冇廣東話咁親切!
我份人好簡單 有龍sir就like咗先睇
謝謝你龍sir
Perfect explanation. Simple and easy to understand.
多謝龍Sir,
深入淺出,謝謝
年輕時在汽車零件行專負責鎖售及處理吸震筒彈簧之類零件. 當時冇人教我都是要睇書自學~~ 如果當時已經有"龍Sir教室". 我就行少好多冤枉路啦~~
龍Sir 解釋軸套清晰,不落俗套。
食字真係玩得好😁👍
@@sir167 客氣,龍Sir 才是真功夫
我一直認為懸掛系統第一個功能是保證四個輪胎都同時接觸地面有traction 抓地力才有操控。比方三輪車可以沒有懸掛系統,但四輪車必需。因三點會同時接觸一個平面,而四點必有一點懸空。
懸掛係咁多集入面最好睇
龍Sir集集都係好野! 要學到野都快D睇龍Sir教室.
睇龍Sir片又學到野👍🏻
獲益匪淺,多謝龍Sir
龍Sir 講説一定要聽,一定學到嘢👍🏼🙏🏻
謝謝龍Sir既詳細解釋,呢個令我諗起spoon出GK5避震時,特別出左塊adjustment plate,話因為後面既扭力樑low低左會toe in,所以要調整,應該就係龍sir講個個原因。
Btw,唔知有冇理解錯,Nurburgring最快既FF車,Trophy R都係用扭力樑?如果係既話,當啲車廠肯花資源去研究點set好支扭力樑,都值得欣賞呀
非常精彩!龍 SIR 係信心保證!
👍正!龍SIR好專業教材!
長知識🙏🙏👍👍👍👍👍
龍sir真係好正,每次睇片都獲益良多
龍Sir 有料,學到野
痴撚線我一字不漏重複睇左四次,如果我中學物理科阿Sir係龍Sir,我一定全部考試100分
Excellent episode !! Looking forward to more suspension geometry/kinematics episodes. This can be @EngineeringExplained in cantonese. Can I suggest you cover topics like wheel and tyre size choices, wheel (re-)alignment and perhaps corner weight balancing ?
等到龍sir講學啦
多謝指教, 龍Sir
龍sir,是我最佩服的前輩!
Torsion beam 一流,好玩又容易維修零件又平,所以我部細車揸極都唔換就係呢個道理,哈哈!
細車架弱,加會好揸D。
多謝龍sir一直耐心的講解
Useful information
多謝 龍sir 講解🙏👍👍❤️
獲益良多
多謝🙏🈯️教!
獲益良多!
👍🏼 學到嘢,龍sir好嘢!
謝謝老師
精彩,期待下一集!👍
多謝龍Sir,深入淺出講解。
長知識了,多謝龍 Sir
龍SIR條蛇腰好靈活。
完全明白了。謝謝龍Sir👏👏👏👏
講得好好👍
learn a lot from you THANKS
謝謝!
thank you ^^
龙sir靓仔
多謝
全部都係like !勁呀! 好野!
非常期待下集!
龍sir 可唔可以拍一集講下啲輔助系統呀?
例如 電子手制, Auto Start/Stop, Cruise Control, Emergency Braking
好深下,睇多幾次要
學到好多嘢
精準
謝謝龍sir..👍🏻
Thank you, 要不停翻聽同埋寫notes 先睇得明
Thank you 💓 helpful information
龍sir下次可唔可以開一個系列 分析下一啲常見/隱性既汽車維修問題?等大家唔洗google估估下😂
e.g. 引撆滲油, 行車聽到奇怪雜聲, 引撆抖動之類😌🙏🏼
懸掛學問好大,甚至可以話咁多集裡面日複雜。騰原文太Set 部86 set幾個月,最簡單目標就係盡量讓車軚於行車期間,最大範圍接觸地面,但又要舒服,又要唔好過份傾側。
下一集我們會講這方面原理,請勿錯過。
絕對支持!龍 Sir 👍🏻😊
講 unsprung weight與Torsion Beam非常精彩,無記錯常年159 就靠Torsion Beam 技術,以頭轆車贏了3系,拎左某D雜誌car of the year.
由結構如:雙搖臂、麥花臣、多連竿,到彈弓 damper軟硬,車架與避震調較、sway bar軟硬,杯士、塔頂軟硬,camber正負角、toe in out等,避震太多野可以講,兩集可能唔夠😊
期待下一集!感謝龍sir教學
深入淺出
期待第二集!
10:11龍Sir好得意😆
@wai tai cheng Don't know what 7 you said
Torsen beam 講得最正,原來有咁㗎功用!龍sir勁!
聽下好喇🤣扭力樑用係下價車,你覺得有無咁犀利識幫手轉灣?🤣
扭力樑設計係有輕微變形特性,但賣點唔係幫手轉灣,只係車廠降成本先造依樣野出嚟。
難道Magane Trophy R為了慳皮而用Torsion beam嗎? 簡單、便宜、耐用的確是torsion beam的優點,但不是唯一優點,它可以按需要設定出被動轉向功能,同時它是非獨立,camber不會因高度而改變,很適合後軸負荷變化大的MPV,當然論舒適它不及獨立式,所以Alphard用獨立而Estima用torsion beam, 你看日本暴起族有冇人玩Alphard? 他們都愛Estima,因為torsion beam可以飛山路。
@@sir167 要講飛車講操控,雙A臂同MultiLink表現點都在扭力樑之上。扭力樑當中以法國車調較最出色,能夠做到最快頭驅車固然係法國車廠同專業車手嘅功勞。但望返民用下價車嘅扭力樑,重中之中仍主要只在減成本,佢地嘅設計只在於行得走得,舒適同操控放在成本之後。
係民用車之中,所謂高檔品牌同中價以上車,都全面用獨立懸吊,依個係最好證明扭力樑由操控去到乘坐舒適質感,都比唔上雙A臂及Multilink,只係為降成本而大量用於下價車之上。
@@heikei1236 如果單是為了降成本理應回不了頭的,過去一些用torsion beam的車轉回用獨立豈不是在成本控制上走回頭路?其實前驅剛開始大家都愛用後獨立的,像看那些六七十年代的法國車就知,後來發覺torsion beam更好彎,九十年代中型以下車型大量採用,日本人跟進遲了十年,近年能開始轉回獨立,原因是現電子ESP和torque vectoring 成熟了,四驅也愈來愈流行,這無疑是一種進步,但並不能否定torsion beam這簡練而聰明的設計在過去幾十年汽車業所佔的篇章,汽車工藝的發展一環扣一環,有歷史背景和進程,才發展到今天,宏觀讀懂汽車技術和駕駛文化是本頻道一直推廣的事情,希望你會欣賞。
喺囉,汽車應該一早棄用汽油引擎,應該一早用電摩打,高檔嘛!但唔知㸃解D車廠仲出D汽油車,由其是RR車廠仲出D咁大cc汽油引擎,好cheap!🤣🤣🤣
每集都like
漲知識,謝謝~
好有營養 支持
Torsion Beam應該係因為好多車將H型改成U型先操控差,好在裡面條bar可以改
深入淺出!好野!應該要交學費
龍sir,講下車軚壽命😆
講過啦,睇返舊片吧。
學到野
好犀利
真係教咗好多嘢