TIC-TAC-DOUGH 1990 Pilot - RARE Patrick Wayne

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  • @rodney1279TheFlip
    @rodney1279TheFlip Місяць тому +7

    Thanks Wink for one of my favorite game show Tic-Tac-Dough. I love your version the best.

    • @jkaylin6
      @jkaylin6 Місяць тому

      Always liked Hollywood Squares more than Tic Tac Dough.

  • @raulp3943
    @raulp3943 9 днів тому

    I remember this version... all I'm gonna say is that you were a VERY tough act to follow, Wink...you're still Mr. TTD to us, Gen Xers. 💯🐲

  • @GameShowMike
    @GameShowMike Місяць тому +5

    This was the Tic Tac Dough that I grew up with watching in reruns on USA Network. It aired right after reruns of The Jokers Wild that I grew up with that was hosted by Pat Finn.

  • @spannmona
    @spannmona Місяць тому +9

    I honestly wish they kept that host entrance in for the actual show. It looked EPIC!

    • @ColdSnapVA
      @ColdSnapVA Місяць тому +4

      According to a comment on another upload of that intro, Patrick Wayne's shoes were locked into position for that.
      If he had lost his balance somehow, he could have broken his ankles.
      He was a bad host, yes, but he didn't deserve THAT. I agree it looks cool, but I understand why they got rid of it.

    • @NerdNest83
      @NerdNest83 Місяць тому

      In a moment...I'm going to go ass over tea kettle!

    • @benkizer9509
      @benkizer9509 Місяць тому +1

      It was kind of impractical, plus it would likely easily malfunction or make the announcer have to pause awkwardly to wait for it to arrive. I get why they scrapped it.

    • @marcpower4167
      @marcpower4167 Місяць тому

      ​@benkizer9509 exactly, looks really cool but wasn't necessary, didn't add to the game and such a potential liability issue if something went wrong.

  • @kaseydeady
    @kaseydeady Місяць тому

    I love watching you host Tic Tac Dough as I watch the episodes of your version on UA-cam. The bonus round where the contestant must avoid the dragon is my favourite part.

  • @georgef551
    @georgef551 Місяць тому +4

    ...more like Tic-Tac-D'OH!
    The idea of stopping the category shuffle actually was a good idea. I'm glad they ditched the bonus round used here. "Shuffle", more like time the X, or O you want. The later "Dragon Slayer" bonus round wasn't too good. Took a possible win away with unlinkable Xs, and Os, unless you got the slayer. The "Rappin' Dragon" early on was as cheezy as the tacky 90s computer graphics, and grating sounds (every game show at this point, outside of old classics).

  • @robertbishop308
    @robertbishop308 Місяць тому +1

    Hello Mr. Martindale, I've watched many episodes from shows you did, like Debt and Trivial Pursuit. You must had a grand time doing Tic Tac Dough, including seeing all of the champions for the tournament.

  • @4HBirtcher
    @4HBirtcher 20 днів тому

    Wink, I’m surprised you didn’t do this again in 1990!

  • @benkizer9509
    @benkizer9509 Місяць тому +3

    Patrick "You WIIIINNNN!!!" Wayne, the rapping dragon, divorced couples week... man this show was a bomb. Definitely not of the same standard of the Wink Martindale Tic-Tac-Dough.

  • @MyGuyJustinH
    @MyGuyJustinH Місяць тому +3

    I've been wanting to see a pilot of the 1990 version of Tic Tac Dough. I can't wait.

    • @geniusinmathhasreturned
      @geniusinmathhasreturned Місяць тому +3

      Ah me, too. It outta be interesting to see how it went. I have been waiting for a better part of 30 years.

  • @OnScreenThatStudios
    @OnScreenThatStudios Місяць тому +1

    Let's not forget the February 1978 Pilot of "Tic Tac Dough".

  • @PaulIorio-b5y
    @PaulIorio-b5y Місяць тому

    This pilot must have been taped in 1989 since it was copyrighted that year. Thanks for the upload.

  • @RussM90210
    @RussM90210 Місяць тому +11

    The pilot was reshot the next day with some changes, including, eliminating Patrick's ascension to the stage from on top of the "Big Sphere." Dan Enright was very strategic and at the same time quite accommodating to the changes suggested by the guests assembled for the taping.

    • @ryanstrnad8442
      @ryanstrnad8442 Місяць тому +1

      I saw the "over the top"(literally/figuratively) introduction once before, I never understood that.

    • @antonspivack3928
      @antonspivack3928 Місяць тому

      @@ryanstrnad8442 It did look impressive, but wasn't necessary.

  • @PJade
    @PJade Місяць тому +3

    Tony Reitano was on a ton of game show pilots, and even a contestant on a few games that made it to air. I remember him being on The Last Word, and I think he was also on Now You See It '89.

    • @yaphettvazquez9796
      @yaphettvazquez9796 Місяць тому +1

      Yep!!!!!!

    • @HunterDillon95
      @HunterDillon95 Місяць тому +1

      He also won $50,000 during a $50,000 Pyramid tournament in 1981. I believe he was the last tournament winner of that version.

    • @therealbrentrolland
      @therealbrentrolland Місяць тому +1

      You’re right-thank you! I was trying to think where I saw Tony.

    • @connarcowanakacliffordoneo9095
      @connarcowanakacliffordoneo9095 Місяць тому +1

      Wasnt Tony also on the pilot for gambit in 1990 with bob eubanks

    • @PJade
      @PJade Місяць тому

      @@connarcowanakacliffordoneo9095 Yes, I believe he was. I had forgotten about that pilot.

  • @brycelandon6387
    @brycelandon6387 Місяць тому +3

    I remember watching reruns of Patrick Wayne's TTD on USA Network with my great-grandma when I was a little kid. I loved it. I don't understand why everyone hated it or hated Wayne as host. Wink, how did you feel about this version of TTD after you hosted the best-known version of the show for seven years?

    • @jeromehoward1249
      @jeromehoward1249 Місяць тому +1

      TTD '90 had a fighting chance. Patrick Wayne was OK, but if that were Jim Caldwell hosting the show, it might have lasted at least one more year.

  • @ulknavcom054809
    @ulknavcom054809 Місяць тому +1

    Winkster, don't know how you do it, but I pray you don't stop!

  • @bmasters1981
    @bmasters1981 Місяць тому

    One thing I really would like to know about this pilot's bonus game: what if the player had had two unsuccessful spins in a row, landing opposite of the chosen symbol (no money in the pot), and was yet in jeopardy of losing?

  • @anniefinch6843
    @anniefinch6843 Місяць тому

    I remembered watching this game show on television.

  • @bmasters1981
    @bmasters1981 Місяць тому

    Having seen how this pilot's bonus game would have worked, I'd refer to a loss of it as (had this player lost) a "Tic-Tac-No" (because getting T-T-D of the other symbol from what the player was playing with was not what the player wanted).

  • @terryleemangrumii8566
    @terryleemangrumii8566 Місяць тому +1

    Wink, can you please upload the Tic Tac Dough 1980 "Classy Guys" celebrity tournament featuring Patrick Wayne (then of the "Monte Carlo Show") as one of the contestants?

  • @drummingdanny84
    @drummingdanny84 Місяць тому +4

    In a moment..."Yoooouuuuu Winnnnnnn!!: The All New Tic Tac Dough". Patrick Wayne did a great job hosting this pilot.

  • @friedchickenicedtea
    @friedchickenicedtea Місяць тому +9

    The bonus round they used made me glad they went back to avoiding the dragon.

    • @brycelandon6387
      @brycelandon6387 Місяць тому +4

      Actually, I like this bonus round a little better than the one on the actual show - mainly because it didn't include the dragon or dragon slayer doing cheesy raps. But I still prefer the classic "Beat The Dragon" bonus game from the Martindale-Caldwell version.

    • @yaphettvazquez9796
      @yaphettvazquez9796 Місяць тому

      Yep.

    • @Gradyz033
      @Gradyz033 Місяць тому +1

      Actually I disagree with you. I say this bonus round is much better than the actual show. Also honestly I say this is much better than the bonus round from Wink Martindale's version [No disrespect]. I don't like ending the bonus game prematurely when a dragon is picked on the first go. It''s like spinning up a devil on the first spin when it's not your fault. The pilot's bonus round has the same luck based game. The only difference is this bonus game includes strategy, just like the opening slogan to the show. If a dragon is needed, I say replace Xs and Os with Dragon and Dragon Slayer, and play the same way as the pilot.

    • @GamingDelight
      @GamingDelight Місяць тому

      @@Gradyz033
      For my idea of a revival:
      Main game:
      $500 for the outer boxes, $1,000 for the center (as usual, the center box is two related questions, or a question requiring two answers). Like in the 1990s version, the contestants are allowed to stop the shuffle with their buzzers.
      Special categories in red:
      Double or Nothing: Answer one question, and either claim the box and add the value of the box to the pot, or pick another box and answer a question from that box's category. Succeed, and you claim both boxes, add the value of the boxes, then double the pot. Answer incorrectly, lose both boxes, and the pot is not increased.
      Jump-In Category: Either player can buzz in.
      Seesaw: As shown in this video.
      Auction: Both players bid against each other to see who answers the most correctly out of the maximum number. If claimed, each correct answer adds the value of the box to the pot. Complete your contract, claim the box. Fail to do so, the opponent will finish it to try to claim the box. Failing that, nothing is added to the pot.
      All that and more. Double or Nothing and Jump-In Category will be available in every game, with a different red category accompanying them.
      Tic-Tac-Dough, three in a row wins the entire pot. If a tie occurs, the board will be reset, and the pot carries over each game until someone wins it. The value of the boxes double with each tie. Each tie awards each player $500, win or lose.
      Bonus round:
      Three Xs, three Os, TIC, TAC, Dragon.
      Like in the 90s Tic Tac Dough, the contestant is allowed to stop the shuffle.
      Start the pot at $2,500 and double it each time an X or O is found. The TIC and TAC individually don't add to the pot. They both have to be found to double the pot. Find the one Tic-Tac-Dough on the board (Xs or Os) or the TIC and TAC to win the pot ($160,000 maximum) and the prize package. As usual, you have the option to stop at any time and keep whatever is in the pot, because if you find the dragon, he eats your money and ends the game.
      Returning champions (for a daily show):
      No limits whatsoever.

    • @tnawcwvictoria
      @tnawcwvictoria Місяць тому

      Same here, I ❤️ B&E Bonus Games where you avoid the bad guy
      0%, The Devil, The Dragon, The Lightning and The STOP Sign

  • @joshrebich1832
    @joshrebich1832 Місяць тому

    When they got to the bonus game, I was wondering if Patrick was gonna mention an extra prize for making Tic-Tac-Dough on the first 3 tries like either $10,000 or a new car. But he didn't.

  • @pem1974
    @pem1974 Місяць тому +1

    2:39 that first shuffle was a bit suspect. Herb Stempel might've agreed.
    EDIT: All the shuffles seem to be like that. The player hits the lockout, the categories stop...and then they change once more.

  • @PostMDRNfakery
    @PostMDRNfakery Місяць тому +1

    “In a moment…”

  • @Bowlymania
    @Bowlymania Місяць тому +1

    Just in case you didn’t want to rupture an ear drum, the last president was Calvin Coolidge.

  • @MyGuyJustinH
    @MyGuyJustinH Місяць тому

    If I'm not mistaken, I think I've seen Tony on the Gambit pilot with Bob Eubanks. I loved the bonus round on this pilot.

  • @terryleemangrumii8566
    @terryleemangrumii8566 Місяць тому

    I wonder what Patrick Wayne himself thought of Benny Hill's parody of him in the "Monte Carlo Show" parody "Monte Carbolic Show" on the Benny Hill Show....

  • @marinerman
    @marinerman Місяць тому +2

    Cyndi Seidelman just frothed at the mouth somewhere, and she doesn’t know why…

  • @nextbarker2702
    @nextbarker2702 Місяць тому +5

    What were your thoughts Wink, when Patrick hosted a revival of your VP show for 7yrs.

  • @VahanNisanian
    @VahanNisanian Місяць тому +9

    The biggest difference in this pilot: No Dragon.

  • @kingporter67
    @kingporter67 29 днів тому

    Excellent 1990 Tic Tac Dough Pilot, Patrick Wayne was great hosting this game show!!

  • @ColdSnapVA
    @ColdSnapVA Місяць тому +3

    If only someone had a clean copy of that theme song and the other music here. I've always had a soft spot for the main theme.
    Besides, it's HENRY MANCINI! All his music should be available!

  • @mabus42
    @mabus42 Місяць тому +1

    The sound effects, the set, the bonus game... it's like they took the 70s/80s version and asked "What made this show special?" and then got rid of it... what is left is an empty husk of a sad show. I love 70s/80s/90s game shows as much as anyone, but this was a BIG swing and a miss.

  • @jaredjenkins4272
    @jaredjenkins4272 Місяць тому

    There's another biggest difference in this pilot: No Dragon Slayer!

  • @jamesgibson5818
    @jamesgibson5818 Місяць тому

    I noticed that the bonus game they used in the pilot was a little different than the one that actually made it to air but if you ask me I think that one was slightly better than the one that made it to air

  • @brothergaryii
    @brothergaryii Місяць тому +4

    The announcer of the pilot was Art James, who filled-in for Gene Wood on both "Family Feud," for CBS and "Classic Concentration."

    • @ColdSnapVA
      @ColdSnapVA Місяць тому

      The same Art James who hosted The Magnificent Marble Machine?

    • @therealbrentrolland
      @therealbrentrolland Місяць тому

      And announced on TTD in the 80s as well!

    • @someguy23475
      @someguy23475 Місяць тому

      I don’t think it’s Art James. Sounds a bit high pitched.

  • @OhBear-j8l
    @OhBear-j8l Місяць тому +1

    So the bonus game is basically up to nine rounds of coin flipping? Rapping or not, glad they stuck with beating the dragon.

  • @KrakenMan5853
    @KrakenMan5853 Місяць тому

    I do prefer this bonus game than the one used in the series. But, in addition to the Xs and Os, I would add the Dragon and Dragonslayer to the shuffle😊. Also, no choice of X or O at the start. Let the fates decide. Also, make it a $5K bonus with prizes for stopping on the Dragonslayer on the first selected box.

  • @SP84Fanatic
    @SP84Fanatic Місяць тому +2

    Honestly, Patrick Wayne was pretty decent as a host in this pilot. Who gave him the advice to ham it up for the series?
    For the bonus game, not having the dragon takes a lot of the drama/excitement out of the game. Also, the locking in of an X or an O for a box doesn't have the same drama as finding out what a box has in the earlier eras of the show. It seems a skilled player could theoretically get a feel for the shuffle and timing to win the game quite easily.

    • @foxmccloud7055
      @foxmccloud7055 Місяць тому

      I believe that was Dan Enright because Dan wanted Patrick to be highly energetic, and instead of that, he came off as a phony.

  • @terryleemangrumii8566
    @terryleemangrumii8566 Місяць тому

    Who was the announcer in this? I think it's Art James.

  • @terryleemangrumii8566
    @terryleemangrumii8566 Місяць тому +1

    Heck, Patrick Wayne himself even COMPETED on the Wink Martindale version for charity during a "Classy Guys" celebrity tournament!

  • @michaelillingworth7476
    @michaelillingworth7476 Місяць тому

    T12 Honus Wagner cards have skyrocketed.

  • @Chainsawslots
    @Chainsawslots Місяць тому

    Lori had horrible tic tac toe strategy. Gave him 2 combos

  • @NerdNest83
    @NerdNest83 Місяць тому +2

    Is it just me or was Patrick Wayne slightly less annoying than he was on the actual show? If that's the case, why wasn't he like that when the show aired?

    • @marcpower4167
      @marcpower4167 Місяць тому

      I guess he took some bad advice from someone.

  • @thewhammy83
    @thewhammy83 Місяць тому +1

    Yet another game show in which the pilot uses the great Eggcrate, but uses straight Vane in the series.
    But that bonus round reminds me of the former 21 pilot and the later "Masters of the Maze" of chance zapping.

  • @marcpower4167
    @marcpower4167 Місяць тому +2

    All i've seen so far is the intro with the ride Patrick came in on. (I have such a problem with heights I never would have been able to do it)

  • @JohnathanWilliamson849
    @JohnathanWilliamson849 Місяць тому

    The sound effects sound familiar.

  • @JZCRAZY
    @JZCRAZY Місяць тому

    Host makes intro standing on a small platform with no rails 25 feet in the air. I see absolutely no chance of an accident happening with that set up. Nope. None at all.

    • @marcpower4167
      @marcpower4167 Місяць тому

      He's definitely holding a rail but yes definitely no chance of an accident 🙄

  • @bruceburri9426
    @bruceburri9426 Місяць тому +1

    How did a pilot have a returning champion?

    • @bmasters1981
      @bmasters1981 Місяць тому +1

      Because pilots of games that are supposed to have returning champions (like Card Sharks, TTD, et al.) are shot with fake "returning champions" and fake winnings totals to show the networks or syndicators (NBC for Card Sharks, ITC for this Wayne TTD, et al.) how the game mechanics would have worked, and how the champions would have defended their titles, among other things.

    • @Tchelitchew.
      @Tchelitchew. Місяць тому +1

      @@bmasters1981 Thanks for the info. Did people actually win money on these pilots?

    • @marcpower4167
      @marcpower4167 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Tchelitchew.Depends, usually they hire actors who get paid for their appearance.

    • @foxmccloud7055
      @foxmccloud7055 Місяць тому +1

      ​@marcpower4167 Other times, real-life contestants are paid for their appearance and play the game as if it was a real episode.

  • @sha11235
    @sha11235 Місяць тому

    Your version was better, because the contestants couldn't stop the shuffling of the categories.

  • @paramountkid413
    @paramountkid413 Місяць тому +4

    Was this pilot better than the actual series that we got later in 1990?

    • @marcpower4167
      @marcpower4167 Місяць тому +2

      I prefer this bonus game vs. the series, Patrick was a little stiff here but that was sort of better than he was on the air where he was often too over the top. Beyond that not a whole lot changed.

  • @timglende8869
    @timglende8869 Місяць тому

    1:06 - Recognize Matt from Blockbusters in January 1982.

  • @jeprice08
    @jeprice08 Місяць тому

    I'll watch the rest of the pilot because I'm a sucker for game shows, but I'm going to say right now that I am not, I repeat, not a fan of game shows that are rigged/fixed. I don't care what the reason is. At least twice, they could've ended a part of the game quickly by going for the obvious. When she went for the 3, instead of the 4 or the 8 during the bonus game part, I yelled at the screen, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING!?" It was only when the first of the last two O's during the bonus game started to show up I knew this game was rigged. I knew it, I knew it, I knew it! I knew it!

    • @WinkMartindaleGames
      @WinkMartindaleGames  Місяць тому +8

      Just for the record, game shows are NOT fixed or rigged. Now you may be referring to a pilot. On a pilot producers can manufacture outcomes to show specific game scenarios. These pilots are not meant for air. Then and only then can producers script a game outcome. I can say for certain there are no game show currently being produced that are manipulated that way so we don't want to spread that rumor. Winker

    • @jeprice08
      @jeprice08 Місяць тому

      @@WinkMartindaleGames I meant only this pilot and pilots like it. I apologize for my outburst but that's how I felt. I still love you and your content.

    • @WinkMartindaleGames
      @WinkMartindaleGames  Місяць тому +3

      Totally understand. Just wanted to be clear. Also don't be too upset with producers. Again those shuffles did look suspect, but I'm sure they wanted the first game to be dramatic & down to the wire.

  • @cartoongameshowman
    @cartoongameshowman Місяць тому +1

    Lori's post-bonus game total winnings were displayed on the bottom of the screen in Helvetica Black font. A font used mostly on NBC game shows and some syndicated game shows too.

  • @johncraw8572
    @johncraw8572 Місяць тому

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  • @kelperdude
    @kelperdude Місяць тому

    The stop button seemed kind of glitchy.

  • @willmack5909
    @willmack5909 Місяць тому +2

    I disliked this show. I disliked Patrick "YOU WIN!!!!!" Wayne's hosting style, hated the "rappin'" dragon and dragon slayer nonsense, had great disdain for the pot resetting to $0 after every tie game! WTH!!! The OCD in me disliked it when a bonus round win was something like $4,080...I prefer payouts in $50 increments or at least $25 increments anyway. I did like the bonus game well enough before the rapping dragon nonsense. I did very much like how the contestants were able to stop the board from shuffling, giving them a tiny bit more control, rather than being 100 percent at the mercy of the computer randomizing the categories. The set was barren looking too, like they KNEW they were not going to last. Sadly this version aired originally at like 2 in the blessed morning in 1990 when it first came back.

  • @terryleemangrumii8566
    @terryleemangrumii8566 Місяць тому

    There were, I think, other pilots for this, each with a different host.
    Will the 1977 Tic Tac Dough pilot, photos seen in some places and the internet, plus on the box art for the 1978 New Tic Tac Dough board game, be uploaded?

  • @nextbarker2702
    @nextbarker2702 Місяць тому

    Wink, did you watch Patrick's version of your show?

  • @andrewtheandrew705
    @andrewtheandrew705 Місяць тому +1

    I’ve always wondered, are game show pilots “real”? Like were those legitimate contestants playing a legitimate game or were they actors. Did Lori really win $11,100?

    • @benkizer9509
      @benkizer9509 Місяць тому

      Actors. They are demonstrations of the game that producers show to networks in order to get picked up.

    • @WinkMartindaleGames
      @WinkMartindaleGames  Місяць тому +2

      Not all the time. Some shows produce what's called "aired pilots". In that case, it's all on the up and up. And usually NOT actors, usually previous contestants.

  • @mshroye2
    @mshroye2 Місяць тому

    The bonus round has diddly to do with the original. Not a big fan

  • @NEPatriot
    @NEPatriot Місяць тому

    The TTD bonus round sans the dragon?! UNCALLED FOR...and perhaps too easy to win. Then again this was the pilot.

    • @tnawcwvictoria
      @tnawcwvictoria Місяць тому

      No offense, but I ❤️ B&E Bonus Games where you avoid the likes of the 0%, The Devil, Dragon and Lightning
      It makes it fun

  • @BadIdeaSociety
    @BadIdeaSociety Місяць тому

    The greatest flaw in this remake is that the set looks smaller than life.

  • @jonathanmyers2867
    @jonathanmyers2867 Місяць тому

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  • @amywilson3593
    @amywilson3593 Місяць тому

    gerry wilson agree matthew but i miss the dragon

  • @calcio23
    @calcio23 Місяць тому

    Awful version with an oddly exuberant host. None of it was good.

  • @matthewbaduria
    @matthewbaduria Місяць тому +2

    This revival never caught on, after one season. But this pilot is worth watching.

    • @DLCOrganization
      @DLCOrganization Місяць тому

      Too far departed from the spirit of the Wink Martindale-era classic "TTD",
      especially where the music and audio cues are concerned.

  • @nguyenphambaohuan662
    @nguyenphambaohuan662 Місяць тому

    Fun fact: Before Jimmy Caldwell and Patrick Wayne hosted the show, "Tic Tac Dough" used to be hosted by you from 1978 to 1985, Mr. Wink Martindale. Tom Bergeron later hosted the 2021 pilot of your show and it was yet to be picked up as the reboot.
    I hope if it is, you'll host it
    Update: "Tic Tac Dough" will return to TV on Game Show Network in the 1st month of the New Year 2025 (January), but Brooke Burns hosts it this time. Too bad it's not your job anymore, but I hope she does what you did very well.

  • @anthonybirkholz6104
    @anthonybirkholz6104 4 дні тому

    this version sucks

  • @wschmrdr
    @wschmrdr Місяць тому +1

    21:30 Not quite as "meme-ific", but if you're only watching this for one reason, there it is.

  • @briancurry6602
    @briancurry6602 Місяць тому

    dragon slayer