How to KNOW if it's: IN or OUT?
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- This is a constant source of debate in padel for social games and club tournaments, and something we are asked regularly!
In this video we explain how you can tell if the ball goes in or out...there are a few signs to look for.
You can use the trajectory and the spin to tell if the first contact was with the glass or the ground.
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Very nice video Sandy! This is very useful for a lot of players...
Thank you and I hope so!
Great Video Sandy! Congrats!
Mejora Tu Padel thanks Manu! Appreciate that very much 🙏🙏
Immaculate content as always Sandy, good info delivered clearly and concisely.
Thank you kindly!
Mate, it’s us viewers who should be doing the thanking 😉
Your channel is a proper treasure trove of content, may I say THE channel for tutorials and know-how for all of us non-spanish padel enthusiasts. Cudos!
This is one of the most important videos you have because lots of players fight for calling an out ball though it’s in ... thank you sandy 💪🏼
Glad to help!! :)
Good video! Every game on all levels has plenty of these IN/OUT situations and unfortunately many players take the opportunity to call it OUT and not even trying to continue the ball even if they can. Great pointers, hope you get a lot of views and that we can start to play more of these 50/50 balls instead of calling OUT.
Exactly! If in doubt give the benefit to the opponents and continue the point! :)
Great as always Sandy. 👍Vamos padel.
Thanks Joacim!! Vamos padel! :)
Hey Sandy,
This happened no less than 4 times over my weekends matches. I'm with you on making a call that is in line with good sportsmanship. Great content and really nice to see literally all aspects of padel being covered. You're really making The Padel School a "one stop shop".
Keep it up!
Phil
Thanks Phil, appreciate the support! Trying to cover as many bases as I can in the hope players get any advice they need :)
@@ThePadelSchool No worries! I'd like info on how to know when your racket is worn out. Doesn't seem to much info online and sometimes despite a racket looking fine, it can actually be no good. Something I had trouble with recently.
TY for a very interesting video, Sandy!
In our friendly games the 'referee' is the player who has the best angle of vision. In most instances of the game any player can call the shot, but it usually is one of the two players on the same side where the ball bounces. If anyone disagrees, the call is let and the point is repeated.
During the serve it is the non playing member of the couple returning, except for when the ball bounces very close to the central line (The couple serving has a better angle here)
And sometimes we agree to disagree ;^)...
That sounds a fair way to do it and if all the players are working towards a fair game then usually there aren't many disagreements! A 'let' is often the best way to go if players aren't sure :)
Hi Sandy, thank you for your great videos! I have a rules question and don`t know who to ask as I cannot find the answer in the Official Rules of Padel. If the opponents are hitting a ball to our side and I think it looks to be out. Am I allowed to call a the ball to my partner and shout “out”, when it turns out the ball actually bounces inside the court? I heard some say you must use other words? From tennis I believe you can call any ball on your side, even if it is wrong. Hope you can help, thank you. Best regards Henrik
Nice video!!Greetings from Spain!
Thank you very much! Happy to have people in Spain watching :)
Nice content! I believe that the situation where people don’t know whether it’s in or out is when the ball comes with aggressive backspin towards the back wall and bounces low even though it’s in. Would be nice if you covered that.
This generally reacts the same way with the spin you just have to be on an extra close lookout for it!
Great videos!
glad you enjoyed!
Very well described Sandy, with useful tips for the good sake of sportsmanship.. regarding your comment on 4:15 (egg ball), the Spanish translation comes from the French word “balle d’oeuf” and it’s called this way because of the sound it makes when the ball bounces exactly (more or less 😜) at the 45 degree angle - more likely to a “pooouuuufff” sound..
In our matches, as you said, we do our best to play it back and “game on”..
but you can choose to see the next bounce of the ball: if it spins, then you’re lucky and ball is called OUT - on the other hand, if it bounces with a slice effect then you’re unlucky and the ball was IN.. at this point, you are regretting why didn’t you kept playing - hehehehehehehe..
Congratulations!! 🎉🎉🎉
Thanks for the explanation! Yes, exactly, better to show good sportsmanship! The spin and bounce of the ball is more proof to explain the call you've already made! haha
Can you teach that slide move you do at 0:31? Love the editing.
Ty
Nice explicative video! If i'd have to make a request, it would be to make an indepth take on how to judge those balls that hit right in the corner. We thought it was a niche case, but in reality it happens waaay more often than we predicted and it's quite confusing
thanks for the feedback, we will take this on board for future videos👍
Nice content man!
Glad you liked it!
I didnt know that spencer fc started playing padel, good channel btw
Not quite sure who that is haha
Thank you, an excellent explanation, as always.
Thanks! And thanks for watching them all!
I have only one problem and it is when the ball hits exactly the 2 surfaces in the same time. I know you would say how often that happens, well I play only since October and it happened to me already 3 times. So may I ask what rules say there. What we did twice we replayed the poind and once we played it as out. But really how the rules treat that kind of balls?
thx
Any advice on distinguishing glass Vs fence on serves? I've had quite a few instances where the ball has hit the juncture between the two and struggled to make the call
Normally the sound and the rebound can tell you! If it is an odd bounce or the rattle of the fence...
As a former hockey goalie and a football player I think it is fun that it isn't said anything about sound. In what order does the sound happen. Ground or glass? At times you are able to point to sound as a source also.
Yes, sound is an indicator for sure, but can often be difficult to describe. It also can be affected by the balls, conditions of the glass and grass etc. So even though often you do hear the sound of the thud on glass first, it is more difficult to illustrate to your opponents...
@@ThePadelSchool So true. Kind of hard explaining it to someone who doesn't use their ears or are familiar using sound as a compliment to the visual.
I think the most difficult situations to judge are when the opponent hits the ball when it's very close to their own side glass / fence and down the line. From a recipient's perspective it's so hard to know if the ball touched the side glas on your side of the court before it hit the ground. Of course the opponent have an eaasier time to see what happened. Any tips on judgeing those calls?
I would say that if the ball rebounds in a regular way that the point can be continued it is probably in and if it bounces out of the normal line it is most likely out...
2 points where i feel unconfortable: the metal connection in the floor where it holds the glass. And the edge on the side that splits fence and glass. Any pointers there? We usually call a let whenever there is an unusual trajectory. I'm not sure how this is called in a tournament.
Well, really the metal connection holding the glass should be so small it should make much difference (it is why most courts do not build them like that anymore) - nothing to do there, just call it as you see it! For the "pico" (edge of the fence/glass) usually judge by sound and rebound. If the rebound goes towards the returner like a normal bounce it would be considered in...if it doesn't then out. That's how it would be called in a tournament. But in a friendly game if you aren't sure then a let is always a fair call :)
A good executed víbora can often bounce very low and far less than 45 degrees. Or a high ball that slightly touches thale glass before can go in an upward direction. After the floor. These are the most discussed balls in my games. Visual should always be the first, right. And if you can’t see, then go for the signs?
Yes, exactly. And the examples you mention is why we talk about the angle of entry/exit...because sometimes it’s more or less than 45 degrees...
What happens if it hits the nick perfectly (50:50 glass/floor)? Is it in or out?
In terms of point, do you continue play if it rebounds off the side fence ?
Not for the serve, yes on any other circumstance... a nasty shot to play as the ball will come off the fence a bit wild and unplayable for your opponent.
All in all, I'd say padel is a fair sport, if there is any sort of discussion we usually play the let. The angle in wich you are observing the ball makes a big difference in the perception of the shot. We usually follow the player who has the best view point on the ball, but that is obviously in a friendly game.
This sounds like a very civilized game! One I would be happy to join! :)
@@ThePadelSchool Great ! How about next tuesday ! ;)
Hi - is it not simpler, just to hear if the ball hits the glass, or not? Keep on the good work!
It does make a different sound. But would it be easier to say to your opponents you heard the sound or you can point to the rebound?
Do I get a point to hit the ball outside the door with a bounce inside the court first? I just haven't seen any player attempt it in championship matches and Google is also not helping with this question, tried it many ways :D Thanks in advance
If play outside is allowed a player can run out and hit that ball...
In the serve if the ball bounces and then hits the metal upright at the edge of the grid, is the ball in or out?
That would be out! If it touches the metal.
Thx Sandy ! Question, what is the theory if the serve hit the border between the fence/glass ? sometimes difficult to judge ......
I saw on some blog post that, if it bounce backwards it is a bad serve, but if with any forward angle then it is okey. ~90° might be hard to judge but might be superrare. Don't know how valid this is though.
A bit like the decision with the corner rebound. If if responds in a normal way (without the sound of the fence), then usually it is fine. If there is an unusual bounce it usually means it has hit the fence and is therefore out.
@@ThePadelSchool From Jean Galea blog post: Padel Points FAQ - Was it a Valid Point or Not?
"Case 2 - We serve and the ball bounces on the ground and then rebounds off the part between the mesh and the side wall, called pico in Spanish, and border in English.
If the ball rebounds in the direction of the receiver, then it’s a valid serve, if not it is a bad serve. This is a rule that is very often confused at beginner level, and it is commonly given as a let. This is incorrect, and the rule just described should apply instead. It has to be either a good or bad serve, and never a let."
He has an image showing it as well.
I guess he can be wrong.
MonnizProductions I think we are talking along the same lines. That if it rebounds like a normal bounce off the wall it is considered good. If it’s an unusual rebound that bounces at an angle that’s considered a fault.
@@ThePadelSchool Maybe. But his image shows the angle of 85 from the receivers' end, which is a weird and unusual angle.
My group usually do what you are saying however. If it is a bit weird angle and it makes fence sounds then it is out. Just curious how they do in tournaments. Thanks for everything!
How do they do it in Tournaments like world tour padel?
They have a referee and video playback if there are any disputes! Nice, right?!
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Thanks for the support!
What happens when is a lob as the ball always go high above the ankle?
this might help pulse.ly/jsc6mxc71f
What about in the knick? Thats where i have a question.....
What happens if it completely rolls?
You mean after the bounce? Most likely it is out. Theoretically if there is a ton of slice and it hits perfectly on the ground first it could come out very low...but the type of spin would be an indicator too...
had an egg the other day and we called it in. Way to cool a shot to be called out.
Something not mentioned in this video is that an "egg" ("huevo") is considered fair ball in the rules and you should play on.
Yes, assuming the "huevo" bounces up...good point
Ìß this squash I thought with tennis it was all to do with chalk dust line
Not sure I understand you question but this is neither squash nor tennis. It's the game of padel.
A useful video, Sandy, but there is no convincing some opponents, especially when you play what you believe is a perfect huevo! The one that really irritates (it shouldn’t, I know, tranquillo!), is when you serve and get the leading edge of the glass. It’s known as ‘pico’, and if the ball goes toward the receiver it’s good, toward the server it’s a fault, but all you get regardless of direction is “out/fuera”! Grrrrr!
Haha I understand those frustrations! Often called before players have even barely seen the rebound...deep breaths and prepare for the next point ;) haha
"Play a let", is that the same is flipping a coin, when in doubt about a point?
It means replay the point
@@ThePadelSchool sorry. Thank you!
@@dvdv8197 don’t be sorry, that’s what we are here for 👍
Look at the way the ball is spinning coming out of the corner:
Spinning towards the wall = in, spinning away from the wall = out....saved you 4 minutes.
Do more advanced analysis
There will be more analysis coming up!
I don't even play this sport. The UA-cam algorithm just brought me here. Is this the same as squash?
The algorithm is suggesting you give it a go! Many squash players come to padel. It is a combination of tennis and squash! Very enjoyable and tactical...
Much more fun than squash
Did someone actually need a video about this kindergarden level stuff?
If you’ve never had a debate about whether it is in or out you must be very new to padel 👍