This was one of the better summaries I've heard in under twenty-five minutes. I look forward to the rest. You may consider adding a video on the most common straw man attacks used against Calvinists, for example, "Calvinists don't evangelize", and the one you mentioned "God forces people to be saved against their will". Similar to that one is "Calvinists believe God denies people who want to be saved". Some other straw men as runners up: "Calvinists believe people are robots", "Calvinists believe God is the author of sin", and "Calvinists worship John Calvin". My sons were teens when we adopted the doctrines of grace (coming out of the IFB). So, I wrote them something to slip in their bible and study so they could learn how to answer these straw men. We had been closet Calvinists for a little while. Thanks again for the video! Good job.
My moniker is - 60 years a Wesleyan, now a Bible believing Baptist. In my small SBC church I’m known as the stealth Calvinist among my brothers. We love each other enough to simply rest in the tension of our various views. 🌹 The most beautiful flower in the garden of God. Blessings brother for another fine video!
Brother, I was just looking for this exact type of video yesterday! Praise the Lord you’re releasing a series at this Devine hour!!!!! As per your request, TULIP
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Enjoy your videos and the spirit in which they are done. Not 100% sure I would call myself a Calvinist but have been listening to reformed preaching for 6-7 mos and attending a reformed church for about 2 mos. Verse by verse teaching has been a game changer for me!
@@truthseeker5698 Calvinism doesn't harden. It breaks a man's pride completely, leaves him naked and open as a wicked sinner in the presence of a holy God. It softens the heart and causes the will to yield in submission to an omnipotent God. It does this and has done this very thing for thousands of years, even before Calvin was born, going back to Augustine's day. It did this to Spurgeon, John Gill, B.B. Warfield, Evangelist George Whitefield, all of the Puritans, Jonanthan Edwards, and the list of some of the most notable names among theological giants throughout church history who were used mightily to combat theological liberalism, used to usher in the 1st Great awakening and 2nd Great awakening (the overwhelming numbers of preachers during this time were reformed). It was the 1st Great awakening (The Reformation), i.e. reformers, that brought human history out of the dark ages of the apostasy of the Roman Catholic Church and established expository preaching as the norm, which ushered thousands upon thousands into the kingdom of Christ through mass conversions, many of whom were martyred for their refusal to deny Christ or His Gospel which they preached.
Heard someone say years ago that Calvinist are always talking about the grace, mercy and love of God while non Calvinist are always talking about Calvinist
Excellent! After the series on the atonement and Calvinism, I think you should do something on covenantal theology particularly as it relates to eschatology. Again, excellent job on this video.
I'm not Calvinist, but have noticed the Calvinist have the most dead on preaching. You guys preach the way that people need to hear. Voddie is definitely preaching what people do not want to hear but need to know. ❤
Yes Reformed preachers preach the whole counsel of God. They preach scripture as a whole not just a select part of Scripture. This is why expository preaching is so necessary in the church today. Topical sermons tend to leave out parts of scripture that people don't want to hear because it makes people uncomfortable or it's too complicated or it's too controversial.
I am a Calvinist, I am a sinful human,and I never would have believed on God on my own…I was dead in my trespasses and sin, my Lord took out my heart of stone,and gave me a heart of flesh….
@ this is your opinion. Calvinism doesn’t claim to be perfect(though a sectarian determinist minority does claim that). Just as Arminianism, and other systematic theologies do as well. From your comments I see dishonestly and saying things that Calvininism doesn’t even teach, but you repeat it do to your hate towards this. Be blessed my brother. I am not Calvinist at all. But try preach the same Jesus we believe in.
@@Jonathanhdz16 Calvinism is demonic. Inform yourself. A growing abundance of resources that refute and identify the Gnosticism roots are readily available. You impossible to coalesce Jesus The Messiah with the Christ of Calvinism.
Love you Pastor Burris. I am not a Calvinist nor will ever be one. I respect the thoughtful way you present your beliefs. I can assure you we agree alot more than we disagree! Blessings!
When my boys were younger, I taught them the doctrines of grace, but we simply called it "Theocentric soteriology". I wanted them to know how to defend Calvinism without really knowing the term. I mean, who would take issue with theology that is more God-centered!? Ha! Since we were IFB, this term enabled them to know how to defend the view without the title. I taught them that we believe in "Big-God-little-man" theology while some believe in "Big-Man-little-god" theology. Now that we're not in the IFB, we just use the term "Calvinistic" because it's easier, or simply the "Doctrines of Grace". It's nice to not need to hide it now.
@MisertheWizer Because the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are the sole initiators of salvation, they effectuate it, maintain it and end it. Salvation begins in God and ends in God. Romans 11:36. This is an amazing thing for those that the Lord has saved, because not only has the Lord saved us (which is not a insignificant thing) but He also grants us understanding of His salvation. And God is glorified in all of this. He is the center and focus of everything and He does as He pleases. Psalm 115:3
@truthseeker5698 Then we dont worship the same God nor do you understand the doctrines of grace that are rooted in the Lord. T = Mark 10: 18 U = Matthew 22: 14 L = Matthew 26: 28 I = John 6: 29,65 P = John 6: 44, 10: 27-30 You must be born again. Repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
@CoCo8102. I agree with you, but it's still nuanced when talking about salvation regarding our role in it, we do not save ourselves but part of our role is to put our faith in him and repent, he's still responsible for saving us by his work in us but we need to bend the knee
You don't have to agree with me, and that is perfectly fine. When we get to heaven, you will agree with me! 😂 One of the best parts of the video. This video was very educational, and in my opinion, personable. It was like sitting across from you at lunch after church or something. 😂 Well done! I'm looking forward to the upcoming videos. I'm actually new to this channel and will be subscribing! Soli Deo Gloria.
@TheRomans9Guy, please don’t troll. You are welcome and encouraged to make a cogent argument if you wish, but immature trolling will get you blocked. I really wish to interact with you, but you need to do better.
@@TheRomans9Guy you are creating a God in your own image. Imagine if you are wrong, you should not be judging God, however you think of his doctrines, do not judge God. Do not blaspheme! Who are we to answer back to God!
Looking forward to this series. As a non Calvinist I appreciate this broken down format to check my own understanding of Calvinism. I’m really not sure what all the eye rolling about provisionism is going to accomplish. It’s not an incredibly complicated system, it’s not that poorly defined (though it is a broad group). The only practical difference between Provisionism and Arminianism is the former doesn’t hold to Total Depravity. That’s just the classical syngerist view (John Cassian’s Conference 13 is basically just the provisionist view of grace and human responsibility). Calvinists tend to act like provisionism is some radical new idea dreamed up by Leighton, but it just seems to be a systemized version of what people like Adrian Rogers and Billy Graham were teaching (uncontroversially) in the 20th century. It would probably be more helpful to just treat it the same way you treat Calvinism and Arminianism, without the unnecessary hand waiving.
The sovereignty of God is such a comforting doctrine. I do not understand how anyone can deny the doctrine of election. Ephesians 1 is very clear, along with other passages.
@@truthseeker5698 Oh really? Let's examine the verdict of the Scriptures. Ephesians 1:4-6 -- "Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him in love, by predestining us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He graciously bestowed on us in the Beloved." Sounds like salvation to me. "Adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself" is a soteriological statement. Don't believe me, let's find another passage. Consider Romans 8:29-30 -- "Because those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers; and those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified; and those whom He justified, He also glorified." Romans chapters 9-11 also has various mention of divine election/predestination. It is a debated passage, but I do believe the context to be discussing the Jews in relation to God's redemptive plan, set in motion before the foundation of the world (John the Baptists' words, not mine). Still don't believe me? How about another, from the mouth of the Lord. Consider his words in John 6:44-45 -- "Jesus answered and said to them, 'Stop grumbling among yourselves. No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. It is written in the prophets, "AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT BY GOD." Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.'" Election is about salvation. When Peter addresses the believers he is talking to, he address them as the "elect." He is talking to those who have been saved. I have given you Scripture, so that is the end of this conversation. I will not be engaging in debate. The Bible says what it says, whether everyone likes it or not.
@@FaithFounders No, not so at all. Calvinism is a lie from the Satan. Condemned as heresy @Jerusalem council. Choose to follow Jesus The Messiah or Christ of Calvinism.
Great introduction to the Doctrines of Grace. One thing that can be said about Calvinism as a system is that there is NO OTHER theological system which seeks to strip man entirely of any glory whatsoever and instead seeks to seek ONLY the Glory of God for all of his work in redemption from beginning (before the foundation of the earth and universe) till his final triumph when Christ returns to gather all of his elect throughout history for the final battle and the final judgment of the wicked and their Father the devil. When speaking of Calvin, American theological powerhouse B.B. Warfield said of Calvin, and I paraphrase, "If there is one trait Calvin possessed which characterized his entire life it is this, he had a holy jealousy for the glory of God in all things".His teaching wasn't the only thing that reflected this character trait. His personal walk with Christ as a husband, father, and pastor also exhibited it in spades. The volume of theological written works he produced, almost seemingly impossible for one man, have influenced Christians, theologians, and pastors for hundreds of years long after his death and are still influencing those same groups of people today. One cannot look at the life of Calvin and read his works and come away believing anything other than that he was a man who was completely sold out to Christ, the building up of His church, and furthering of His kingdom.
No, Christ's death on the cross saves no one if no one has faith, it's a component to salvation not salvation itself, if Christ died for you but you never repented would you go to heaven or hell?
Stand firm on the word of God Pastor! People hate the truth, and they make a God in their own image. Nearly every page of the New Testament, and every chapter in the Old Testament affirms all 5 points of the Tulip and reformed theology. Once you see it, it can not be unseen. God is not evil! God is always good! God is just to do whatever he wills! He destroyed the world in a flood and chose only to save 8, and he was 10000% righteous in doing so! What people fail to realize is every Baptist affirmed the Tulip through their confessions 200 years ago. The whole IFB movement is re-hashing old fights from church history, that our church fathers figured out hundreds of years ago. God Bless you!
Thanks, brother. You're a smart guy, so the fact that you have been through a lot of teaching on provisionalism and still hold to Calvinism is intriguing to me. The main reason that I don't affirm Calvinism is that in my estimation, it seems to be built upon a lot of philosophical inference and logical extrapolations from ambiguous passages, in order to bring us to conclusions which contradict the plain sense of very clear passages. It's not that the logic behind Calvinist systematics or their use of scripture is impossible, it's just not sufficiently justified in scripture, in my estimation, to warrant adopting it in the face of so many competing passages and scriptural themes or the other problematic implications it creates. In other words, I will believe anything the Bible clearly and explicitly teaches, no matter how difficult it is for me to reconcile with my Notions of Justice or what a good God would/should do. But if I'm going to adopt a theological position that puts me in peculiar logical, moral, and philosophical quandaries, and which creates face value discrepancies with the rest of the Bible, I'm going to need to be dragged there kicking and screaming by inescapably clear and unavoidable statements in in the text... not complex and clever systematics on passages that can honestly and cohesesively be interpreted otherwise. I do agree that this is an in-house discussion, and I appreciate your approach to the topic, as always. Blessings to you.
It's interesting to me that Calvinists accuse Provisionists of being "haters" since Calvinists often argue against and belittle those of us who do not see the system of Calvinism in the scriptures. The snide remark about Leighton Flowers wasn't missed.
I just would say quite right brother. We are all sinners in need of grace and I’m sure we could all be kinder to each other with greater grace. However, don’t miss the forest for the trees. If a Calvinist or a provisionalist is mean, does that make their theological system any more or less correct? Scripture is scripture, and that should determine what you believe. Not how a particular Christian treats you. Leighton flowers and this individual would be the first to admit they are sinners. That doesn’t mean their individual theological perspective is wrong. Listen to both and search the scriptures 😊 God bless
I have questions in the area of determinism and its relationship to human responsibility, the Bible seems to clearly teach the latter, but doesn’t explicitly teach the former. There seem to be different interpretations of what God’s being “in control” means in the details…
If you get a chance, watch this video where I talk about Compatible Determinism -- how there is perfect harmony between the complete sovereignty of God and the choices of man. Perhaps it will help. Is Determinism Biblical? ua-cam.com/video/8YhtdAWCyfA/v-deo.html
I love that you have addressed. This neglected doctrine. Doctrine is the foundation On which to build your house. To Build on sound doctrine will save you from heretics. People will not stand for Is strong doctor. L o l, Once. Had s Lewis Johnson at our church.And you would think we invited a terrorist. This should. Never happen. I am a calvinist who goes to an Armenius church. I hope you do well on this series For it is highly needed.
@truthseeker5698 yea I didn't want to challenge anyone here but definitely, it creates a contradiction of God's will, he becomes schizophrenic in his determinations
🌷I am very interested in what is coming ahead. Not sure where I stand on this debate. One thing I do know that if it wasn’t for Grace I’d be dead. I’ve noticed that some hate Calvinists more than some fundamental hate Catholics.
@jimtobin3760, I will happily address your question regardless of your intentions. Give me a little time. It's a busy day, but I will not leave you hanging on this. I sincerely pray that you will be patient enough to consider my answer when I give it. @fruitsnacks155, I am genuinely curious how my response will be received when I provide an honest answer with the historical background. Stay tuned.
🌷I am very interested in what is coming ahead. Not sure where I stand on this debate. One thing I do know that if it wasn’t for Grace I’d be dead. I’ve noticed that some hate Calvinists more than some fundamentalist Baptist hate Catholics or KJVO people hate Westcott and Hort
Monergism seems to exclude human responsibility. It seems that if God chooses whom he does based on absolutely, tee-totally nothing foreseen or foreknown in the individual that differentiates them from another, then that choice seems inescapably to be textbook arbitrary.
The pendulum has swung the other way huh?! 😂 No judgement brother! If you seek God with a good heart, you’ll be called His child. I don’t know why Christians are so quick to condemn so often. We weren’t called to sit on the throne of judgement. It’s literally not our job. I’m glad you’re figuring yourself out. I don’t know what I believe aside from I believe in God Almighty, He sent His Son here to die for me, Jesus obeyed and died for me (I’m forever grateful) and I’m going through a sanctification process to shed chains of sin and live more like Him. Theologically speaking, I’m a baby. I’m still learning a lot of these words which didn’t even come around till the 16th/17th century. From what I’ve read, I may be an Armenianist but I’m sure someone more knowledgeable than I could ask me a question and me answer in a way that would disqualify me from that too.
FYI, I saw your comment about the other conversation you asked me about via email notification. I assure you that I did not delete his comment or that thread. I honestly didn’t see any need to. As much as we all know he can be rude, he actually wasn’t in any of his comments. I don’t know why he deleted it.
@@pastorburris I’m sure you know already, the allegations from his children. …He and his wife should be in jail. That’s why he deleted it. He cant bury the truth. The stones will cry out. Steven Anderson… I’ll let God be the judge of him. I only pray his children keep a relationship with Jesus after what he and his wife did.
I was a little worried about ya there for awhile. But now its going to be impossible for you to keep a job, because 96/100 don't want anything to do with Calvinism, and about half of em' think being against Calvin saves them.
Thanks for your video. I look forward to your further videos on this topic. If I may, I have a few observations. I appreciated your gentleness. The Church generally, and I personally have been blessed by people on both sides. There is no need to treat the other like the spawn of Satan. Definitions and how both sides are explained are important. For example, I have heard explanations of Calvinism that make it as enjoyable as lying on a cold marble slab. Yet I have heard other explanations that are as inviting as a soft donna on a freezing night. Regarding TULIP, I have heard other people argue that it is not a good approach to explain Calvinism. The acronym for example really only works in the English language. For me, I have not come to a firm decision of where I stand (or sit) on the 5 points. I think Calvin is more right than wrong, but I do feel that Arminius raised some reasonable objections.
Did you know that in the Old Testament, the Bible book of the Song of Solomon, verse 5, verse 16, mentions the name Muhammad? חִכּוֹ מַמְתַּקִּים וְכֻלּוֹ מַחֲמַדִּים זֶה דֹּודִי וְזֶה רֵעִי בְּנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִָם׃ Chikko mamtakkim v’khullo machamadim, zeh dodi v’zeh re’i, b’not Yerushalayim
Did you know you do not have a clue about what you are talking about? “מַחֲמַדִּים” is not Muhammad. Not even close. That name is not in the Hebrew Bible. Your assertion is total ignorance at best and a blatant lie at worst. I read and speak Hebrew. The word you falsely used means desirable. It is a masculine plural noun. It is not pronounced anything like Muhammad. Even your transliteration shows it. The Niqqud vowel pointing and the rules of Hebrew totally refute your assertion. Machmadim is a long way from Muhammad. Not only do I know Hebrew, but I am learning Arabic and I have read the Quran. Sura 22:30 condemns lying and falsehoods. Sura 25:72 warns against false witness. Sura 39:3 says Allah does not guide a liar. Do you think Allah is going to accept you as a liar? Sura 39:3 says definitely not. I sincerely hope your statement was out of ignorance and not a lie. I pray you come to faith in Christ.
I was born and sprinkled into Calvinism through the Dutch Reformed church, but I learned later that I was predestinated NOT to be a Calvinist. Hallelujah! I am not an Arminian either because I reject that limited system of my freewill. The Arminian fails to rightly divide the word of truth of the Holy Bible. The Calvinist assigns unscriptural definitions to elect, predestination, and a certain flower, the TULIP. Paul wisely warned, "I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."
One cannot be a (TRULY) born again believer and a believe in heresy. Just because you can’t agree with Calvinism it doesn’t make it a heresy. I don’t know why today anything that someone doesn’t agree with another is branded as heresy. We need to stop this. Calvinism is not a dogmatic belief system, but a interpretative theology that has been systematized. That’s why it’s called a Systematic Theology. Just as Arminianism, Provisionism, Molitists, etc. there are loopholes in all systems.(many will disagree there) Though I am currently very close to Wesleyan Arminianism, I still consider Calvinists brothers in Christ. There is so much all Christians actually agree with Calvinism. Where we disagree is mostly in the final conclusions of predestination and order of salvation. Even though we all still believe in predestination and that we can only be saved by Grace Through Faith. (I am not promoting relativism here, there is actually essential doctrines we all have to agree with to be considered Christians objectively) I am past this childish fight, I was very opposed to Calvinism, and branded it heresy, but I now realized that there is so much we agree, and that we all agree in the essential doctrines of Christianity. Pastor Burris is an amazing Pastor and represented his position very well and in good faith. Let’s respect that. God bless you all and
16:28 All of these are unscriptural. God doesn’t “save” anyone. Not in the sense that salvation is a one-step process, like it might be if someone fell overboard from a ship, or fell off a cliff. God forgave all men their sins so that now, anyone who surrenders to him, to them he will grant eternal life.
You made my point well. Your rejection of Calvinism is based on your rejection of Penal Substitutionary Atonement. Your view of the atonement affects your entire perspective. Please clearly define what view of the atonement you affirm. This will be fun.
God saves everyone who is saved with His son's Blood!, by his grace! God decides! We were dead before, we could do nothing! No one seeks after God. Jesus chose us, we didn't choose him until the Father drew us to him and his son! Romas 3:11, John 6:44,65 & 15:16 affirms this, as well as the rest of the Bible! All of Ephesians 1, Galatians, Romans 1,3, 8,9 ect
@@pastorburris I'm not at all interested in the various theories on how the atonement works. What is penal substitutionary atonement in your view? That the actual punishment for all sins was actually meted out onto Christ by God? I'll admit that explanation certainly would be repulsive. But I neither know nor care about what your idea of how the atonement works is. If I had to guess at what my stance on how the atonement works would be I would guess satisfaction. But it looks like there's problems there too. My rejection of Calvinism centers solely around its view of election. It's the doctrine of election that's awful and unbiblical. God did not predestine some to eternal life and others to eternal death. Or pass the others over, or however you want to state it. Everyone is elect because in most instances in scripture, the election is talking about God' invitation. There are a few times when election is being used to mean those who have perfected their election by surrendering to God, repenting and having faith, but you can tell those times from the context. But Calvinism's great (horrendous?) error is that it purports Paul and Jesus to be establishing the very doctrine that they both were demolishing. Because of a very distinct lack of understanding the 1st Century Jewish context, Augustine and the rest have cobbled together a theology based squarely on the foundation that Jesus and Paul were disavowing.
That's a false dichotomy. I hope you are better than that. Please be respectful in your comments and substantive in your arguments. You were neither in this comment.
@@pastorburris False dichotomy? Then cohere Jesus The Messiah with he christ of calvinism. A re you suggesting these two are one and the same? Impossible to align them. The leech has two daughter, give give they cry is in the proverbs. Leech is not disrespectful. C Calvinism is based in gnostic religion introduced through Augustine. Cults often take scripture and twist it into their desired meaning. This is calvinism in light of Jesus The Messiah. Be respectful and stop using Jesus} name as you're a purveyor of a false cult theology ie TULIP, calvinism.
Only the remnant the lost sheep of the house of Israel was predestined for salvation from the foundation of the world in the first century AD no one today. All remnant Israel was saved via belief in Jesus by the time the fullness of the nations came in which was by 70 AD. The day of Pentecost was the way God saved the remnant, regathered the lost tribes, and restored the kingdom to Israel with the new covenant church- a holy nation a royal priesthood- being born in a day. Calvinism, and Zionism destroyed in a few sentences.
@@toddstevens9667 here is just one to save my time and yours. the owner of this channel loves your comment so he is ignorant too even though he provided no rebuttal, and you will, and can not either. Micah 5 But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans[b] of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.” 3 Therefore Israel will be abandoned until the time when she who is in labor bears a son, and the rest of his brothers return to join the Israelites. 4 He will stand and shepherd his flock in the strength of the Lord, in the majesty of the name of the Lord his God. And they will live securely, for then his greatness will reach to the ends of the earth. james 1 ◄ James 1:1 ► James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes scattered among the nations: Greetings. In 1 Ephesians it was "we who were the first to put our hope in Christ" aka the FIRST Christians which were some of the remnant OT Jews like when Jesus said drop your nets and follow me when the OT says I will make you fishers, and hunters of men. Those people were predestined for salvation.
@ I really don’t like to argue, but those quotes say nothing about what you said in your post. There’s nothing about 70AD, lost tribes, election of only Jews, dispensationalism, or Zionism. Obviously I recognize the Micah quote as a prophecy of the coming of the Messiah. And the reference to the brothers returning, I guess you think that is a reference to the “Lost Tribes.” But hopefully you understand that there weren’t any “lost tribes.” 2 Kings 17 tells us exactly what happened to them. Some were dispersed among the nations, and others stayed in the region. Their descendants became the Samaritans. But where do you get this 70AD thing? What do any of those verses have to do with election of Israel or remnants? What do any of those verses have to do with dispensationalism or Zionism? And what does Jesus making his disciples “fishers of men” have to do with the election only of Jews? I’m even more confused now than I was about your first comment. But if you think it’s too complicated to explain, you can just ignore me.
@@toddstevens9667 The lost tribes were regathered on the day of Pentecost, and 3000 converted fulfilling prophecies. Yes there were lost tribes in the OT not anymore. God preserves a remnant of Israelites up until Jesus for Davids / the . messiah sake. The kingdom of Israel was restored on the day of Pentecost not 1948 AD with the country "Israel". Christians are the Israel of God, and Jews Romans 2 28 29 Galatians 6 16. Jesus picking the fishmen fulfilled prophecies those men were predestined. No one today is predestined for salvation from the foundation of the world only the 12 apostles, and other first century people were. The remnant was the 144 000 in Rev 7. The Abrahamic / Mosaic covenants were based on physical circumcision not ancestry but God preserved a remnant based on ancestry - his election. Rev 1-12 happened 70 AD when Romans destroyed Jerusalem Rev 13-22 is future.
@@johnyork-fj4lo Well … at least we’re not being judgmental. But explain how Pastor Burris’ attitude in this video was similar to those of the KJVO attitude and practice. I think he was remarkably gracious in all of his comments. He accepted that there were differences of opinions, and that he was very willing to engage different opinions respectfully. He did not call Arminianism or provisionism trash. I think you’re being very unfair to Pastor Burris and what he said in the video.
@@toddstevens9667 Although it's strong language to be sure, Calvinism is pretty awful. Intellectually bankrupt. It's so odd how its followers can't at all conceive that the idea of teaching that God created all mankind to be sinners, destined for eternal death, but chose to give only some of them the ability to repent and have faith, and those ones always do, and he gives those ones all eternal life and just leaves the rest for how they were and that all of this is supposed to show God as glorious? If a man did this same thing, had 10 kids and preplanned to send 5 of them to an early death, through no reason of those 5, just by his own choosing, and then actually carried out that plan, we would call that man the most vile evil. We wouldn't glorify him. But they can't conceive of any of this.
I have questions in the area of determinism and its relationship to human responsibility, the Bible seems to clearly teach the latter, but doesn’t explicitly teach the former. There seem to be different interpretations of what God’s being “in control” means in the details…
This was one of the better summaries I've heard in under twenty-five minutes. I look forward to the rest. You may consider adding a video on the most common straw man attacks used against Calvinists, for example, "Calvinists don't evangelize", and the one you mentioned "God forces people to be saved against their will". Similar to that one is "Calvinists believe God denies people who want to be saved". Some other straw men as runners up: "Calvinists believe people are robots", "Calvinists believe God is the author of sin", and "Calvinists worship John Calvin". My sons were teens when we adopted the doctrines of grace (coming out of the IFB). So, I wrote them something to slip in their bible and study so they could learn how to answer these straw men. We had been closet Calvinists for a little while. Thanks again for the video! Good job.
Your cultist cubs will hopefully see the brainwashing / manipulation you’ve instilled!
I am really looking forward to the promised series. Pastor Jonathan has a gift to explain even complicated stuff.
My moniker is - 60 years a Wesleyan, now a Bible believing Baptist. In my small SBC church I’m known as the stealth Calvinist among my brothers. We love each other enough to simply rest in the tension of our various views.
🌹 The most beautiful flower in the garden of God. Blessings brother for another fine video!
Brother, I was just looking for this exact type of video yesterday! Praise the Lord you’re releasing a series at this Devine hour!!!!!
As per your request, TULIP
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Enjoy your videos and the spirit in which they are done. Not 100% sure I would call myself a Calvinist but have been listening to reformed preaching for 6-7 mos and attending a reformed church for about 2 mos. Verse by verse teaching has been a game changer for me!
Check out Dr Andy Woods before you’re too far gone / hardened by the reformed Calvinism.
@@truthseeker5698 Calvinism doesn't harden. It breaks a man's pride completely, leaves him naked and open as a wicked sinner in the presence of a holy God. It softens the heart and causes the will to yield in submission to an omnipotent God. It does this and has done this very thing for thousands of years, even before Calvin was born, going back to Augustine's day. It did this to Spurgeon, John Gill, B.B. Warfield, Evangelist George Whitefield, all of the Puritans, Jonanthan Edwards, and the list of some of the most notable names among theological giants throughout church history who were used mightily to combat theological liberalism, used to usher in the 1st Great awakening and 2nd Great awakening (the overwhelming numbers of preachers during this time were reformed). It was the 1st Great awakening (The Reformation), i.e. reformers, that brought human history out of the dark ages of the apostasy of the Roman Catholic Church and established expository preaching as the norm, which ushered thousands upon thousands into the kingdom of Christ through mass conversions, many of whom were martyred for their refusal to deny Christ or His Gospel which they preached.
Heard someone say years ago that Calvinist are always talking about the grace, mercy and love of God while non Calvinist are always talking about Calvinist
Until we have to constantly defend against all the strawmen.
God bless you Pastor Burris. I was really edified by this.
Excellent! After the series on the atonement and Calvinism, I think you should do something on covenantal theology particularly as it relates to eschatology. Again, excellent job on this video.
Calvinism is disgusting to Christians.
I'm not Calvinist, but have noticed the Calvinist have the most dead on preaching. You guys preach the way that people need to hear. Voddie is definitely preaching what people do not want to hear but need to know. ❤
Yes Reformed preachers preach the whole counsel of God. They preach scripture as a whole not just a select part of Scripture. This is why expository preaching is so necessary in the church today. Topical sermons tend to leave out parts of scripture that people don't want to hear because it makes people uncomfortable or it's too complicated or it's too controversial.
@4jchan amen
I’m Catholic and always enjoy watching Pastor Burris’ videos. Enlightening and educational!
I am a Calvinist, I am a sinful human,and I never would have believed on God on my own…I was dead in my trespasses and sin, my Lord took out my heart of stone,and gave me a heart of flesh….
How are you certain of this if you were dead?
@@truthseeker5698because he is now alive in Christ Jesus.
@@Jonathanhdz16 Calvinists have their own spirit, absolutely not Jesus The Messiah!
@ this is your opinion. Calvinism doesn’t claim to be perfect(though a sectarian determinist minority does claim that). Just as Arminianism, and other systematic theologies do as well. From your comments I see dishonestly and saying things that Calvininism doesn’t even teach, but you repeat it do to your hate towards this. Be blessed my brother. I am not Calvinist at all. But try preach the same Jesus we believe in.
@@Jonathanhdz16 Calvinism is demonic.
Inform yourself. A growing abundance of resources that refute and identify the Gnosticism roots are readily available.
You impossible to coalesce Jesus The Messiah with the Christ of Calvinism.
Good video overall. I have been Reformed for over 35 years. I look forward to your upcoming videos.
As a new Calvinist, I appreciate this.
Love you Pastor Burris. I am not a Calvinist nor will ever be one. I respect the thoughtful way you present your beliefs. I can assure you we agree alot more than we disagree! Blessings!
Every time I hear those who where elected where selected, I think of radio free Geneva and Ergun Caner and James white
When my boys were younger, I taught them the doctrines of grace, but we simply called it "Theocentric soteriology". I wanted them to know how to defend Calvinism without really knowing the term. I mean, who would take issue with theology that is more God-centered!? Ha! Since we were IFB, this term enabled them to know how to defend the view without the title. I taught them that we believe in "Big-God-little-man" theology while some believe in "Big-Man-little-god" theology. Now that we're not in the IFB, we just use the term "Calvinistic" because it's easier, or simply the "Doctrines of Grace". It's nice to not need to hide it now.
I love the doctrines of grace because it glorifies the Lord and it's a summary of what He says in His Word.
God IS love. Love is not self-seeking. The tulip deity is nothing like Jesus The Messiah.
How does it glorify God exactly?
@MisertheWizer Because the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are the sole initiators of salvation, they effectuate it, maintain it and end it. Salvation begins in God and ends in God. Romans 11:36. This is an amazing thing for those that the Lord has saved, because not only has the Lord saved us (which is not a insignificant thing) but He also grants us understanding of His salvation. And God is glorified in all of this. He is the center and focus of everything and He does as He pleases. Psalm 115:3
@truthseeker5698 Then we dont worship the same God nor do you understand the doctrines of grace that are rooted in the Lord.
T = Mark 10: 18
U = Matthew 22: 14
L = Matthew 26: 28
I = John 6: 29,65
P = John 6: 44, 10: 27-30
You must be born again. Repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
@CoCo8102. I agree with you, but it's still nuanced when talking about salvation regarding our role in it, we do not save ourselves but part of our role is to put our faith in him and repent, he's still responsible for saving us by his work in us but we need to bend the knee
Thanks Pastor J, I've been saved since 1988, embraced the doctrines of grace many years later.
Typical cult conversion account.
Calvinists recruit Christians.
You don't have to agree with me, and that is perfectly fine. When we get to heaven, you will agree with me! 😂 One of the best parts of the video. This video was very educational, and in my opinion, personable. It was like sitting across from you at lunch after church or something. 😂 Well done! I'm looking forward to the upcoming videos. I'm actually new to this channel and will be subscribing! Soli Deo Gloria.
Many Calvinists in particular will hear away from” away from me!”
I believe God. He is the Righteous Judge. His ways are past finding out. But, in Heaven, we will All be in agreement. ❤
I'm looking forward to this. I love theology 🌷🌷🌷
Never apologize for believing the Bible.
[edited this comment because in hindsight it was far too trollish]
@ yeah it’s so bad to believe that God is actually God and we aren’t
@TheRomans9Guy, please don’t troll. You are welcome and encouraged to make a cogent argument if you wish, but immature trolling will get you blocked. I really wish to interact with you, but you need to do better.
@@TheRomans9Guy you are creating a God in your own image. Imagine if you are wrong, you should not be judging God, however you think of his doctrines, do not judge God. Do not blaspheme! Who are we to answer back to God!
@@pastorburris Your comment was fair. This one you responded to of mine was far too trollish. I've recanted it.
Looking forward to this series. As a non Calvinist I appreciate this broken down format to check my own understanding of Calvinism.
I’m really not sure what all the eye rolling about provisionism is going to accomplish. It’s not an incredibly complicated system, it’s not that poorly defined (though it is a broad group). The only practical difference between Provisionism and Arminianism is the former doesn’t hold to Total Depravity. That’s just the classical syngerist view (John Cassian’s Conference 13 is basically just the provisionist view of grace and human responsibility). Calvinists tend to act like provisionism is some radical new idea dreamed up by Leighton, but it just seems to be a systemized version of what people like Adrian Rogers and Billy Graham were teaching (uncontroversially) in the 20th century. It would probably be more helpful to just treat it the same way you treat Calvinism and Arminianism, without the unnecessary hand waiving.
The sovereignty of God is such a comforting doctrine. I do not understand how anyone can deny the doctrine of election. Ephesians 1 is very clear, along with other passages.
Never is election about salvation.
@@truthseeker5698 Oh really? Let's examine the verdict of the Scriptures.
Ephesians 1:4-6 -- "Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him in love, by predestining us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He graciously bestowed on us in the Beloved."
Sounds like salvation to me. "Adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself" is a soteriological statement. Don't believe me, let's find another passage. Consider Romans 8:29-30 -- "Because those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers; and those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified; and those whom He justified, He also glorified." Romans chapters 9-11 also has various mention of divine election/predestination. It is a debated passage, but I do believe the context to be discussing the Jews in relation to God's redemptive plan, set in motion before the foundation of the world (John the Baptists' words, not mine).
Still don't believe me? How about another, from the mouth of the Lord. Consider his words in John 6:44-45 -- "Jesus answered and said to them, 'Stop grumbling among yourselves. No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. It is written in the prophets, "AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT BY GOD." Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.'"
Election is about salvation. When Peter addresses the believers he is talking to, he address them as the "elect." He is talking to those who have been saved. I have given you Scripture, so that is the end of this conversation. I will not be engaging in debate. The Bible says what it says, whether everyone likes it or not.
Ephesians 1 is specifically about salvation.
@@FaithFounders No, not so at all.
Calvinism is a lie from the Satan.
Condemned as heresy @Jerusalem council.
Choose to follow Jesus The Messiah or Christ of Calvinism.
Great introduction to the Doctrines of Grace. One thing that can be said about Calvinism as a system is that there is NO OTHER theological system which seeks to strip man entirely of any glory whatsoever and instead seeks to seek ONLY the Glory of God for all of his work in redemption from beginning (before the foundation of the earth and universe) till his final triumph when Christ returns to gather all of his elect throughout history for the final battle and the final judgment of the wicked and their Father the devil.
When speaking of Calvin, American theological powerhouse B.B. Warfield said of Calvin, and I paraphrase, "If there is one trait Calvin possessed which characterized his entire life it is this, he had a holy jealousy for the glory of God in all things".His teaching wasn't the only thing that reflected this character trait. His personal walk with Christ as a husband, father, and pastor also exhibited it in spades. The volume of theological written works he produced, almost seemingly impossible for one man, have influenced Christians, theologians, and pastors for hundreds of years long after his death and are still influencing those same groups of people today. One cannot look at the life of Calvin and read his works and come away believing anything other than that he was a man who was completely sold out to Christ, the building up of His church, and furthering of His kingdom.
And makes God the author of all sin.
@@AJTramberg No it doesn't.
Where do Calvinists typically fall in the whole rapture debate? I don't hold to a pre trib rapture, but I'm not Calvinist either. Just wondering 😊
All believers believe in limited atonement whether they know it or not. They either limit the atonement in its scope or in its efficacy.🙏❤️
No, Christ's death on the cross saves no one if no one has faith, it's a component to salvation not salvation itself, if Christ died for you but you never repented would you go to heaven or hell?
Stand firm on the word of God Pastor! People hate the truth, and they make a God in their own image. Nearly every page of the New Testament, and every chapter in the Old Testament affirms all 5 points of the Tulip and reformed theology. Once you see it, it can not be unseen. God is not evil! God is always good! God is just to do whatever he wills! He destroyed the world in a flood and chose only to save 8, and he was 10000% righteous in doing so!
What people fail to realize is every Baptist affirmed the Tulip through their confessions 200 years ago. The whole IFB movement is re-hashing old fights from church history, that our church fathers figured out hundreds of years ago.
God Bless you!
You’ve definitely been given over to blindness and hardness of your supposen chosen cult!
Jesus The Messiah will welcome you if you’ll turn to Him.
Thanks, brother. You're a smart guy, so the fact that you have been through a lot of teaching on provisionalism and still hold to Calvinism is intriguing to me.
The main reason that I don't affirm Calvinism is that in my estimation, it seems to be built upon a lot of philosophical inference and logical extrapolations from ambiguous passages, in order to bring us to conclusions which contradict the plain sense of very clear passages.
It's not that the logic behind Calvinist systematics or their use of scripture is impossible, it's just not sufficiently justified in scripture, in my estimation, to warrant adopting it in the face of so many competing passages and scriptural themes or the other problematic implications it creates.
In other words, I will believe anything the Bible clearly and explicitly teaches, no matter how difficult it is for me to reconcile with my Notions of Justice or what a good God would/should do. But if I'm going to adopt a theological position that puts me in peculiar logical, moral, and philosophical quandaries, and which creates face value discrepancies with the rest of the Bible, I'm going to need to be dragged there kicking and screaming by inescapably clear and unavoidable statements in in the text... not complex and clever systematics on passages that can honestly and cohesesively be interpreted otherwise.
I do agree that this is an in-house discussion, and I appreciate your approach to the topic, as always.
Blessings to you.
Thanks for being kind even in disagreement.
It's interesting to me that Calvinists accuse Provisionists of being "haters" since Calvinists often argue against and belittle those of us who do not see the system of Calvinism in the scriptures. The snide remark about Leighton Flowers wasn't missed.
I just would say quite right brother. We are all sinners in need of grace and I’m sure we could all be kinder to each other with greater grace. However, don’t miss the forest for the trees. If a Calvinist or a provisionalist is mean, does that make their theological system any more or less correct? Scripture is scripture, and that should determine what you believe. Not how a particular Christian treats you. Leighton flowers and this individual would be the first to admit they are sinners. That doesn’t mean their individual theological perspective is wrong. Listen to both and search the scriptures 😊 God bless
Well flowers is a heretic.
I have questions in the area of determinism and its relationship to human responsibility, the Bible seems to clearly teach the latter, but doesn’t explicitly teach the former. There seem to be different interpretations of what God’s being “in control” means in the details…
If you get a chance, watch this video where I talk about Compatible Determinism -- how there is perfect harmony between the complete sovereignty of God and the choices of man. Perhaps it will help.
Is Determinism Biblical?
ua-cam.com/video/8YhtdAWCyfA/v-deo.html
Thanks brother!
I love that you have addressed.
This neglected doctrine. Doctrine is the foundation On which to build your house. To Build on sound doctrine will save you from heretics. People will not stand for Is strong doctor. L o l, Once.
Had s Lewis Johnson at our church.And you would think we invited a terrorist. This should.
Never happen. I am a calvinist who goes to an Armenius church. I hope you do well on this series For it is highly needed.
Armenianism you have to believe in Jesus to be saved.
Calvinism you have to be saved to believe in Jesus.
The Christ of Calvinism is impossible to cohere with Jesus The Messiah.
@truthseeker5698 yea I didn't want to challenge anyone here but definitely, it creates a contradiction of God's will, he becomes schizophrenic in his determinations
@@truthseeker5698
Like the old saying goes, "you don't come to a Armenian position from to much Bible".
Keep reading your Bible.
You'll get there.👍
@@philipmorgan5500 Trite, shallow . chaff comment Phillip.
🌷I am very interested in what is coming ahead. Not sure where I stand on this debate. One thing I do know that if it wasn’t for Grace I’d be dead. I’ve noticed that some hate Calvinists more than some fundamental hate Catholics.
Can you explain what Calvin thought and did with the Anabaptist?
are you asking genuinely or are you being snarky?
@jimtobin3760, I will happily address your question regardless of your intentions. Give me a little time. It's a busy day, but I will not leave you hanging on this. I sincerely pray that you will be patient enough to consider my answer when I give it. @fruitsnacks155, I am genuinely curious how my response will be received when I provide an honest answer with the historical background. Stay tuned.
@@pastorburris i agree. I look forward to it!
Are you talking about Michael servetus?
🌷I am very interested in what is coming ahead. Not sure where I stand on this debate. One thing I do know that if it wasn’t for Grace I’d be dead. I’ve noticed that some hate Calvinists more than some fundamentalist Baptist hate Catholics or KJVO people hate Westcott and Hort
I would say reformed believers tend to over emphasize God's sovereignty to the neglect of human freedom and responsibility.
We want to focus Jesus more and not ourselves.
Monergism seems to exclude human responsibility. It seems that if God chooses whom he does based on absolutely, tee-totally nothing foreseen or foreknown in the individual that differentiates them from another, then that choice seems inescapably to be textbook arbitrary.
We are focused on Christ which reflects our responsibility. Scripture should dictate our view which is Christ words and that brings us to Christ.
Total depravity, that' righteousness has to be imputed to us from outside of of ourselves 😊
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since St. Paul was a calvinist, who am i to argue :)
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Thanks for this. I enjoyed it and agree completely. And I’m looking forward to the rest of the videos 😁🌷
The pendulum has swung the other way huh?! 😂 No judgement brother! If you seek God with a good heart, you’ll be called His child. I don’t know why Christians are so quick to condemn so often. We weren’t called to sit on the throne of judgement. It’s literally not our job. I’m glad you’re figuring yourself out. I don’t know what I believe aside from I believe in God Almighty, He sent His Son here to die for me, Jesus obeyed and died for me (I’m forever grateful) and I’m going through a sanctification process to shed chains of sin and live more like Him. Theologically speaking, I’m a baby. I’m still learning a lot of these words which didn’t even come around till the 16th/17th century. From what I’ve read, I may be an Armenianist but I’m sure someone more knowledgeable than I could ask me a question and me answer in a way that would disqualify me from that too.
FYI, I saw your comment about the other conversation you asked me about via email notification. I assure you that I did not delete his comment or that thread. I honestly didn’t see any need to. As much as we all know he can be rude, he actually wasn’t in any of his comments. I don’t know why he deleted it.
Thank you so much for hanging around and not discarding me when we disagree. Blessings!
@@pastorburris I’m sure you know already, the allegations from his children. …He and his wife should be in jail. That’s why he deleted it. He cant bury the truth. The stones will cry out. Steven Anderson… I’ll let God be the judge of him. I only pray his children keep a relationship with Jesus after what he and his wife did.
I was a little worried about ya there for awhile. But now its going to be impossible for you to keep a job, because 96/100 don't want anything to do with Calvinism, and about half of em' think being against Calvin saves them.
True. My friend had a hard time finding a church to pastor.
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TULIP!!
very good. looking forward to hearing more.
TULIP.🙏❤️
Thoughtfully said, thanks for the video!🌷
Thanks for your video. I look forward to your further videos on this topic. If I may, I have a few observations.
I appreciated your gentleness. The Church generally, and I personally have been blessed by people on both sides. There is no need to treat the other like the spawn of Satan.
Definitions and how both sides are explained are important. For example, I have heard explanations of Calvinism that make it as enjoyable as lying on a cold marble slab. Yet I have heard other explanations that are as inviting as a soft donna on a freezing night.
Regarding TULIP, I have heard other people argue that it is not a good approach to explain Calvinism. The acronym for example really only works in the English language.
For me, I have not come to a firm decision of where I stand (or sit) on the 5 points. I think Calvin is more right than wrong, but I do feel that Arminius raised some reasonable objections.
Thank you so much for your reasonable and cordial response. Blessings!
If you believe Salvation is of the Lord, you're a Calvinist. Because He doesn't leave His work unfinished,
Did you know that in the Old Testament, the Bible book of the Song of Solomon, verse 5, verse 16, mentions the name Muhammad?
חִכּוֹ מַמְתַּקִּים וְכֻלּוֹ מַחֲמַדִּים זֶה דֹּודִי וְזֶה רֵעִי בְּנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִָם׃
Chikko mamtakkim v’khullo machamadim, zeh dodi v’zeh re’i, b’not Yerushalayim
Did you know you do not have a clue about what you are talking about?
“מַחֲמַדִּים” is not Muhammad. Not even close. That name is not in the Hebrew Bible. Your assertion is total ignorance at best and a blatant lie at worst. I read and speak Hebrew. The word you falsely used means desirable. It is a masculine plural noun. It is not pronounced anything like Muhammad. Even your transliteration shows it. The Niqqud vowel pointing and the rules of Hebrew totally refute your assertion. Machmadim is a long way from Muhammad.
Not only do I know Hebrew, but I am learning Arabic and I have read the Quran. Sura 22:30 condemns lying and falsehoods. Sura 25:72 warns against false witness. Sura 39:3 says Allah does not guide a liar. Do you think Allah is going to accept you as a liar? Sura 39:3 says definitely not. I sincerely hope your statement was out of ignorance and not a lie. I pray you come to faith in Christ.
I was born and sprinkled into Calvinism through the Dutch Reformed church, but I learned later that I was predestinated NOT to be a Calvinist. Hallelujah! I am not an Arminian either because I reject that limited system of my freewill. The Arminian fails to rightly divide the word of truth of the Holy Bible. The Calvinist assigns unscriptural definitions to elect, predestination, and a certain flower, the TULIP. Paul wisely warned, "I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."
KJVonlyism . . . now Calvinism? Any other bridges you want to burn? 🤣🤣
Brother I love your videos and believe you're a saved born-again Christian however I pray the Lord open your eyes to the heresy of Calvinism
Brother, while I disagree with you on this issue, I am very thankful that we can agree to disagree on this issue. Thank you so much.
One cannot be a (TRULY) born again believer and a believe in heresy. Just because you can’t agree with Calvinism it doesn’t make it a heresy. I don’t know why today anything that someone doesn’t agree with another is branded as heresy. We need to stop this. Calvinism is not a dogmatic belief system, but a interpretative theology that has been systematized. That’s why it’s called a Systematic Theology. Just as Arminianism, Provisionism, Molitists, etc. there are loopholes in all systems.(many will disagree there) Though I am currently very close to Wesleyan Arminianism, I still consider Calvinists brothers in Christ. There is so much all Christians actually agree with Calvinism. Where we disagree is mostly in the final conclusions of predestination and order of salvation. Even though we all still believe in predestination and that we can only be saved by Grace Through Faith. (I am not promoting relativism here, there is actually essential doctrines we all have to agree with to be considered Christians objectively)
I am past this childish fight, I was very opposed to Calvinism, and branded it heresy, but I now realized that there is so much we agree, and that we all agree in the essential doctrines of Christianity. Pastor Burris is an amazing Pastor and represented his position very well and in good faith. Let’s respect that.
God bless you all and
You shouldn’t affirm Calvinism. It’s awful and unbiblical.
This is not a refutation. At the end of the video, I asked you to do better than this when you start commenting.
@@pastorburrisyour Calvinism deity decreed him to respond this way. No mystery here!
16:28 All of these are unscriptural. God doesn’t “save” anyone. Not in the sense that salvation is a one-step process, like it might be if someone fell overboard from a ship, or fell off a cliff. God forgave all men their sins so that now, anyone who surrenders to him, to them he will grant eternal life.
You made my point well. Your rejection of Calvinism is based on your rejection of Penal Substitutionary Atonement. Your view of the atonement affects your entire perspective. Please clearly define what view of the atonement you affirm. This will be fun.
@@pastorburris the Leighton Flowers method of “analegesis” is strong on this one.
@@brothermike434 😁
God saves everyone who is saved with His son's Blood!, by his grace! God decides! We were dead before, we could do nothing! No one seeks after God. Jesus chose us, we didn't choose him until the Father drew us to him and his son! Romas 3:11, John 6:44,65 & 15:16 affirms this, as well as the rest of the Bible! All of Ephesians 1, Galatians, Romans 1,3, 8,9 ect
@@pastorburris I'm not at all interested in the various theories on how the atonement works. What is penal substitutionary atonement in your view? That the actual punishment for all sins was actually meted out onto Christ by God? I'll admit that explanation certainly would be repulsive. But I neither know nor care about what your idea of how the atonement works is. If I had to guess at what my stance on how the atonement works would be I would guess satisfaction. But it looks like there's problems there too.
My rejection of Calvinism centers solely around its view of election. It's the doctrine of election that's awful and unbiblical. God did not predestine some to eternal life and others to eternal death. Or pass the others over, or however you want to state it. Everyone is elect because in most instances in scripture, the election is talking about God' invitation.
There are a few times when election is being used to mean those who have perfected their election by surrendering to God, repenting and having faith, but you can tell those times from the context.
But Calvinism's great (horrendous?) error is that it purports Paul and Jesus to be establishing the very doctrine that they both were demolishing. Because of a very distinct lack of understanding the 1st Century Jewish context, Augustine and the rest have cobbled together a theology based squarely on the foundation that Jesus and Paul were disavowing.
Calvinism is a leech theology with disgusting conclusions attributed to God of The Bible.
Christ of Calvinism or Jesus The Messiah.
Choose well!
That's a false dichotomy. I hope you are better than that. Please be respectful in your comments and substantive in your arguments. You were neither in this comment.
@@pastorburris False dichotomy? Then cohere Jesus The Messiah with he christ of calvinism. A re you suggesting these two are one and the same? Impossible to align them.
The leech has two daughter, give give they cry is in the proverbs. Leech is not disrespectful. C
Calvinism is based in gnostic religion introduced through Augustine.
Cults often take scripture and twist it into their desired meaning.
This is calvinism in light of Jesus The Messiah.
Be respectful and stop using Jesus} name as you're a purveyor of a false cult theology ie TULIP, calvinism.
@@truthseeker5698Calvinism has nothing to do with Gnosticism
Only the remnant the lost sheep of the house of Israel was predestined for salvation from the foundation of the world in the first century AD no one today. All remnant Israel was saved via belief in Jesus by the time the fullness of the nations came in which was by 70 AD. The day of Pentecost was the way God saved the remnant, regathered the lost tribes, and restored the kingdom to Israel with the new covenant church- a holy nation a royal priesthood- being born in a day. Calvinism, and Zionism destroyed in a few sentences.
Do you have any evidence for any of these assertions? Or are they just your opinions? I suspect the latter
@@toddstevens9667 here is just one to save my time and yours. the owner of this channel loves your comment so he is ignorant too even though he provided no rebuttal, and you will, and can not either.
Micah 5 But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans[b] of Judah,
out of you will come for me
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
from ancient times.”
3 Therefore Israel will be abandoned
until the time when she who is in labor bears a son,
and the rest of his brothers return
to join the Israelites.
4 He will stand and shepherd his flock
in the strength of the Lord,
in the majesty of the name of the Lord his God.
And they will live securely, for then his greatness
will reach to the ends of the earth.
james 1 ◄ James 1:1 ►
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes scattered among the nations: Greetings.
In 1 Ephesians it was "we who were the first to put our hope in Christ" aka the FIRST Christians which were some of the remnant OT Jews like when Jesus said drop your nets and follow me when the OT says I will make you fishers, and hunters of men. Those people were predestined for salvation.
@ I really don’t like to argue, but those quotes say nothing about what you said in your post. There’s nothing about 70AD, lost tribes, election of only Jews, dispensationalism, or Zionism. Obviously I recognize the Micah quote as a prophecy of the coming of the Messiah. And the reference to the brothers returning, I guess you think that is a reference to the “Lost Tribes.” But hopefully you understand that there weren’t any “lost tribes.” 2 Kings 17 tells us exactly what happened to them. Some were dispersed among the nations, and others stayed in the region. Their descendants became the Samaritans. But where do you get this 70AD thing? What do any of those verses have to do with election of Israel or remnants? What do any of those verses have to do with dispensationalism or Zionism? And what does Jesus making his disciples “fishers of men” have to do with the election only of Jews? I’m even more confused now than I was about your first comment.
But if you think it’s too complicated to explain, you can just ignore me.
@@toddstevens9667 The lost tribes were regathered on the day of Pentecost, and 3000 converted fulfilling prophecies. Yes there were lost tribes in the OT not anymore. God preserves a remnant of Israelites up until Jesus for Davids / the . messiah sake. The kingdom of Israel was restored on the day of Pentecost not 1948 AD with the country "Israel". Christians are the Israel of God, and Jews Romans 2 28 29 Galatians 6 16. Jesus picking the fishmen fulfilled prophecies those men were predestined.
No one today is predestined for salvation from the foundation of the world only the 12 apostles, and other first century people were. The remnant was the 144 000 in Rev 7. The Abrahamic / Mosaic covenants were based on physical circumcision not ancestry but God preserved a remnant based on ancestry - his election. Rev 1-12 happened 70 AD when Romans destroyed Jerusalem Rev 13-22 is future.
Calvinism is trash. And, oddly enough, very similar to KJVOism in attitude and practice.
@@johnyork-fj4lo Well … at least we’re not being judgmental. But explain how Pastor Burris’ attitude in this video was similar to those of the KJVO attitude and practice. I think he was remarkably gracious in all of his comments. He accepted that there were differences of opinions, and that he was very willing to engage different opinions respectfully. He did not call Arminianism or provisionism trash. I think you’re being very unfair to Pastor Burris and what he said in the video.
@@toddstevens9667 Although it's strong language to be sure, Calvinism is pretty awful. Intellectually bankrupt. It's so odd how its followers can't at all conceive that the idea of teaching that God created all mankind to be sinners, destined for eternal death, but chose to give only some of them the ability to repent and have faith, and those ones always do, and he gives those ones all eternal life and just leaves the rest for how they were and that all of this is supposed to show God as glorious? If a man did this same thing, had 10 kids and preplanned to send 5 of them to an early death, through no reason of those 5, just by his own choosing, and then actually carried out that plan, we would call that man the most vile evil. We wouldn't glorify him. But they can't conceive of any of this.
@@FaithFounders I have no idea what you are talking about. In what way was I unfair? How did I misrepresent anyone?
@@FaithFounders I think you responded to the wrong comment.
@@toddstevens9667 My reply was not supposed to be to you but to johnyork
I have questions in the area of determinism and its relationship to human responsibility, the Bible seems to clearly teach the latter, but doesn’t explicitly teach the former. There seem to be different interpretations of what God’s being “in control” means in the details…
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