See How the F-15 Eagle II Can Outshoot ANY USAF Fighter!
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2022
- Let's take a look at how the F-15EX or Eagle II can shoot farther than any other USAF fighter.
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Thanks Ted!
Love the 5th Gen's, but gee the Eagle has proven to be a wonderful plane and successful platform for evolution.
This plane is 4 ++ gen. Only because it is built off the design of the original 15's. Oh, it is capable
Yep f-22 is essentially an eagle if you look at the designs lots of similarities enough differences though to give it the edge. F-35 gets a bad babe but great ideas were out into that design if it came down to a dogfight fourth gen wise the f-15 or fa-18 are so good on the one circle fights but bvr wise I’d hate being in the 18 doesn’t have the speed like the eagle
@@deadshot4245 Yep those 15's are Blazing Fast!!
We still use F-15s. Not enough F-35s to fill every role.
@@huntclanhunt9697 dedicated missile boats from hell
the f15ex combined with f35s would make an extremely deadly duo against any Air Force
Include the B-1 carrying hypersonic or cruise missiles and you have a devastating attack force.
F-22 better
i agree
a regular F 15 can engage that junk china's J 20
@@jacobeliante4640 F22 is for much different purpose than both f35 and f15, and it is also being retired due to its cost and maintenance
@@treycotter that's why the US just bought over a 100 of them right?
F-15, what a great plane. The only one that came back, minus a wing.
Exactly...
Israel pilot. Great pilot!
@@briancooper2112 more like Belkan Pilot
The pilot admitted later that if the escaping fuel vapors from his destroyed wing hadn't obscured his vision of how little he had on that side of the aircraft, he would have ejected.
Another scenario for the Eagle 2. F-35 strike aircraft go in 50 miles ahead of the Eagles to detect and intercept fighters sent out to knock down the more detectable Eagles, and/or knock out warning and tracking radars (SEAD). Eagle 2 weapon load of 12 ALRAAM (or AMRAAM-EX) while escorting B-1B, B-2 and B-52 bombers (the latter launching from well out of defensive missile range, or acting as diversion while showing up on EW radar much sooner than the B-1 and B2) equipped with hypersonic, cruise, and extended range anti-radiation missiles; the Eagles protecting against enemy aircraft attempting to down the bombers and AWACs with their own long-range AA missiles, if they get past the F35s AMRAAMs and the Eagle's directed ALRAAMs. F-16 SEAD and strike aircraft can then come in afterward to clean up once air dominance is assured. A very potent combination!
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You can also include ADM-160 MALD, carried by B52 or even A-10. The MALD can be programmed to send out a signature to look like any US fighter to enemy radar.
@@davidsonfitness318 Absolutely! Was just watching YT video about the TALD and MALD, both improvements on the old Quail system that was carried by the B-52 to aid in penetrating defenses by confusing radar operators.
Now, just imagine an MALD disguised as an F-15C as air superiority, but actually works as a HARM or possibly a Home-On-Jam anti-radiation missile! Don't need a ton of explosive to disable an antenna, power unit, or control van; I the MALD makes it through the defenses.
@@rpeltier2621 Yeah just use it as a kinetic energy weapon if it doesn't get shot down
@Kitty Cat I didn't say it would be easy.
Tog you’ve outdone yourself again, your videos get better with each one released. This beauty will be stand off deadly and being a missile truck for the F-35, in my opinion is probably its greatest asset.
Thank you Ted, and be sure to check the description- I gave you a shout out for the video idea. Cheers!
@@PilotPhotog Thanks! 🍻
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But f35 flying this low is just going to get spotted by observer.
Although it is stealth but it still going to make noice that could here as an airplane fly by and the cloud that give off
The F15EX Eagle 2 is still one of the Greatest Air to Air Superiority Fighter Aircraft and Ground Strike Aircraft I have ever seen.
In coordination with F22 Raptor and F35 Lightning Aircraft this Aircraft is capable of Defending Itself against 5Th Generation Fighter's thanks to New Construction Technology and Pilot Assist, New Weapons Systems, Advanced Cockpit As Avionics and New Radar this is a Formidable Aircraft.
We look also at that we have seen in theory of the 2021/2022 F14 Super Tomcat and with the Same Modified Systems and Build Structure is also a Formidable Aircraft.
It seems Evident that the 2022 Version of the F14 Tomcat has A Mix of F22 and F14 about it.
Makes one wonder if the Navy went with the Swing Wing F22 Raptor Single Seat just how Good this Aircraft could have Been.
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Add on to that the project to succeed the F-16 that is being called the "F-36 king snake" by the media, the B-21 raider and the NGAD and you have an even greater force to be reckoned with than before!
Hi Tog! Great Vid! FYI- Myself and wife both worked at Hughes Aircraft Company- who designed and built the avionics and weapon systems for the F14, F15, F16, F/A18, F18, B1 & B2 programs... as well as the "blackbird" aircraft as well (A1, SR71, FY12). My dad was the original engineer (and later one of the program managers) who designed the wings and control surfaces for the AIM 54A & C (Phoenix) Missiles. The Phoenix was originally based off the AIM 47 (Falcon) which had a 100-mile range, the AIM 54a was originally designed for our 1st supersonic high-altitude interceptor (flying at 80k feet at Mach 3+) and was initially flight tested in 1961, with an airborne speed of Mach 5+. By 1968, the avionics system (missile) was converted to high-speed digital electronics and as seen on the F14, was equipped with Fire & Forget, Quiet Radar, Reply or Die, Look-Down/Shoot Down and CMAS capabilities. In the mid 1980's HAC developed the AMRAAM and was airborne (flight tested) in the mid 80's. As wonderfully reference in your vid, was in essence, the next gen Phoenix but designed to be launched from internal bays with the next gen Tech!.... The mount system was the same system developed in 1960! Due to space constraints, the original AMRAAM had a "reach" limitation of 100 miles but as rocket engine and fuel tech developed, the long-range version was born- 200 miles matching that of the Phoenix.
Thanks for all the information,very interesting.
What's scary is that in a BVR situation, it wouldn't matter what plane you were flying against the F15, having a possible 12 missiles coming at you means at least one of them is going to hit. More than likely, several of the missiles will take out targets successfully.
As a former Crew Chief on the F-15 C/D and Strike Eagle for 6 years, hell yeah!!
Buying the F 15ex is like the most sensible decision taken by the Pentagon. The versatility and options it brings to the table is unparalleled..... It can also make stealth jets like the F 35 more effective....
Yep it sure is. The Pentagon keeps screwing up when it comes to procurement ever since the Cold War ended. In the last 20 years the military budget has been bigger and crazier than the ones during the Cold War yet...what is this getting?
The last thing I heard about this bird is USAF now only wants eighty of them. I would still pick the F-22 or F-35 over it. They are more capable and survivable.
@@Stinger522
Which I agree with you, highly capable and improved 4.5 generation craft (Or whatever they decide to call more advanced non stealth planes.) will have their place in the US arsenal.
@@Stinger522 In a Contested Airspace against an advanced adversary like China or Russia, I would bet my money on the F 22/35. But that kind of warfare is highly unlikely..... So the USAF would need a 4.5 generation jet that is more suitable for Air policing kind of missions.... And to also aid stealth jets as missile trucks.... The F 15 fits both roles beautifully.....
@@dreamhunter2973 basically the F-35 gets F-15 IIs as dedicated missile/bomb trucks to command and guide through contested peer level airspace, the F-35 having the EW and maneuverability superior to the F15 or F16 will allow the F-35 to perform the leader role while acting as a guide and guard dog against other fighters and SAMs, while the F-15s hauling the ordinance closely behind and acting as an extension of the situational awareness
Hell yah, new video, let's go f-15EX
50 years old and still kicking butt.
Actually, Eagle II comes with new AMBER weapons rack which will allow it to carry 22 AIM-120s and/or AIM-260's(Entered LRIP earlier this year, 2022!) which will cement that longest Air to Air missile shot...
Missile truck F-15 is pretty awesome. It will be interesting to see what happens once NGAD comes into service. Rumors seem to indicate that the Air Force wants NGAD to be able to carry more weapons than current 5th gen fighters.
@skubisan To counter Chinese long range stealth fighters? The J20 is not as stealth as the F35 or F22. The F22 is smaller and carries significantly less internal fuel but still has pretty comparable range with or without external drop tanks. The F22 has more space for missiles given it carry’s 8 internally compared to 6 by the J20. That extra internal weapons bay space only takes away from internal fuel capacity.
NGAD looks to be several different aircraft, including both manned and unmanned, working in tandem. This would be one way to deliver more ordnance or engage more targets as "loyal wingman" UCAVs could carry missiles/bombs for manned aircraft to launch.
However, due to being relatively expensive, it probably won't be produced in large numbers and also won't enter service until the 2030s, so both the Eagle 2 and Raptor will continue to have an important role to play until then and for sometime afterwards.
The Eagle 2 is also replacing the current F-15C/D, so even if/when it stops being used offensively, it will still be used by the ANG for homeland air defence.
@skubisan I was speaking relatively when I said the range is comparable. The J20 carry’s significantly more fuel and is larger than the F22. The AIM-260 will also be operational soon and out range the AIM-120 significantly as well(you nor I know the exact range and speculation is useless so you can’t say wether the PL whatever or AIM-260 will be better). The F22 can carry more missiles at the expense of range. The J20 doesn’t have that unless they’re willing to give up stealth characteristics on an already less capable stealth aircraft. It is a long range but I think the worst case scenario will be increased numbers of sorties to make up for less time on station. You know the F35 exists right? If the US can overwhelm the lackluster Chinese air defense with tons of subsonic cruise missiles then Chinese anti ship missiles won’t pose a threat thus carriers could operate as close as they need. That is just speculation about something very nuanced though.
@skubisan Read my comment again
@skubisanyou act like those anti ship missiles can’t be destroyed before the carriers get in range. You’re choosing to not understand my point. It makes sense and is a very simple concept. Anti ship missiles destroyed equals no anti ship missiles to threaten the carrier. Obviously that is easier said than done but that applies to anything we speculate about on here.
Thank you for an exceptional piece of work. For me, the Eagle 2 is a very viable option. Such a platform is vital, considering all the facts that you have given.
Thanks Tim, much appreciated!
Imagine including ADM-160 MALD's into the mix, one or 2 mixed in with the 120' could make the formation look 2 to 3 times bigger and intercept incoming missiles. They could also be a distraction for the F-35. Imagine launching a host of these from A-10's or B-52's just ahead or behind 5th Gens then follow up with the Eagles 2
So the F-15s are the missiles truck and the F-35s are the eyes and ears of the sky. Wonderful duo.
Great graphics and very well done researched and presented narrative. Super job Juan 👍
Good analysis! As usual.
This was a very impressive video, great job.
Thank you very much!
Hi/Low mix with F-15 EX & F-35-A is an awesome combo
Your Graphics, and content are as Superior as the 'Eagle 2'!! Again, Great narration as Always!!
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After being a member since nearly the inception of his channel, I’m stunned that it doesn’t get more traffic.
Thank you!
@@PilotPhotog DCS fan I see, I can smell DCS game footage from 100 miles away 🤣
@@saltyfloridaman7163 indeed, some clips are DCS (the F-14) and I do play when I can, the rest are rendered by be and my overworked GPU 😆Thanks for commenting!
@@PilotPhotog have you been wishing that they'd update the F-35 mod to more realistic standards? The F-35 mod in DCS went by pre 2017 data and as a result isn't as agile as new publicly available information shows. An amazing video was created by Hypohysterical's guide to the F-35, and I think you'd do an awesome take on it if you'd ever do a video about battling misconceptions with the truth of the F-35 and its program. I'm sure more people are interested in it now that so many countries have purchased them
Great clip mate. The F15 is an awesome piece of hardware
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I wonder what changed in the name scheme for the name of this plane because it's very unusual if they followed traditions you would think that it would just be called the F-15F Super Eagle. "Eagle 2" suggests it's a completely different aircraft that just shares the same. Is such as the A-10 thunderbolt 2 is not the P-47 thunderbolt. The F35 lightning 2 is not the same aircraft as the P38 lightning.
I think it has to do with the AESA radar, digital fly-by-wire flight control system, the F110-GE-129 engines, and the airframe being built for something like 20,000 flight hours instead of the usual 8,000 or so for most 4th-gen airframes (if the publicly available information is correct).
Same exterior as the original F-15s but a totally different beast on the inside with greater structural integrity.
The F-15-EX (aka Eagle II) is only has a superficial resemblance to the original Eagle as nearly all it's internal structure, electronics, fuel capacity and more has been changed so much it practically is a different aircraft.
Still, I somewhat agree in that they should have done a variant name, like they did with the F-16 Falcon variant now named the Viper. Perhaps Golden Eagle for the F-15-EX, or the Harpy Eagle. Both eagles are larger birds than your average eagle, especially the American Harpy.
I agree, Super Eagle would’ve been a cool name, however I agree with the Eagle II naming by the 🇺🇸 AF.
I could care less about the Super Eagle vs Eagle II debate, my question is why they haven't given it the F designation yet. EX worked as a prototype designation, but now that they've adopted it in full there's no excuse. The Super Hornet was a much bigger change to the airframe, but they still went to E/F for it!
@@pyronuke4768 Several points: 1) EX stands for Extended (as in Range, etc…), and eXperimental; though usually these are prefixes, not suffixes. Once the aircraft is officially redesigned, the EX should go away as it will no longer be experimental. 2) Super Hornet designation belongs to the US Navy, not US Air Force, and USN designates they see fit, especially with the word Super as the USN always considered itself Super(ior) to the other services (tongue in cheek humor). 3) There is already an F15-E model. The new model is a completely upgraded aircraft with new internal frame, electronics, flight systems, fuel capacity and much more. Only the outward appearance resembles the original F15 aircraft, thus I can understand giving it an Eagle II designation, though I would have preferred something more akin to the F16 Viper or F15 Strike Eagle, such as Golden Eagle or Harpy as I mentioned in a separate reply.
Correction-F-15EX can carry 22 air-to-air missiles, they added an extra pylon under each wing!
DAYUM the F-15 is almost as old as me and the F-15 II is awesome 👌 👏 😎
Agreed! F-35 and Eagle II make for a powerful duo, each enhancing the assets of the other, especially in range and armaments!
Amazing new stuff for the venerable F-15.
It should be mentioned how the Eagle 2 will be able to drop the ship hitting JDAMs. Thats a real gamechanger.
Great point!
I guess you need to get a video on the RAH66 Comanche ready... you're only 500 subscribers from 66K!
I like the way you think! Thanks for commenting
12 missiles is hardly a missile truck but if the US is serious about the missile truck concept they need to really develop a stealth bomber that can carry a massive amount of long range missiles.
At the end of the day, if you’re air dominance strategy is about BVR and not dogfighting then you need the equipment for long range engagements which usually boils down to the size of the platform and then it needs to be hidden it at least obscured from radar so enemy fighters can’t take it out and then it needs capacity.
In BVR whoever can fire first and then continue to fire usually wins.
This is why the Eagle 2 carries 12 AIM-120s.
That capacity means that it can keep multiple enemies defensive and if missiles are fired back and forth it will outlast anything.
Probably, they are using it for a limited missile truck role because that long range means they have first look, first kill capabilities and with the F-35 you can quite possibly hand control of those missiles over to it until they can get in close enough to activate their own radar.
The next step is to put AESA radar aboard the missiles like the Japanese do which means they can activate much quicker and are more sticky meaning harder to defeat
Hey Tog! Great to see you posting making so many videos lately. I do have a question. So with the F-15EX Eagle II coming into play, do you think other aircraft platforms will be getting more heavier modern refits? I heard such rumours like the A-10D Odin and how the F-22A Raptor's upgrades would make it a technical new variant. That being the F-22B Raptor II. I know they're just rumours, but with the recent advancements in weapons systems such as laser systems and new hypersonic missiles along with new sensors and radar equipment, paired with global tensions with many advisory countries... I see it as a very serious possibility that is appearing on the horizon.
The Raptor just received a service life extension, which wouldn't make sense unless they intend to follow this up with upgrades to keep it operational for longer.
These will supposedly be funded from the money saved by retiring the oldest ~30 Raptors (also announced recently) and repurposing the monies which would've been spent keeping them operational.
Very interesting
let’s goooo new f15 vid (and i’m early too!)
Yayyyyyy new vid !!!
Thank you 🙏 again for your EXCELLENT work 🙏
It's an amazing transition today that the mighty Eagle is the LOW component in the Hi-Low mix🤯😱
PS. Please refrain from addressing the Mighty F14 as just the F14, I mean we need to stick to STANDARDs
I'm kinda surprised the Air Force didn't go with the Silent Eagle version.
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Honestly the ultimate combo would be 35's down low and 22's up high with the eagle 2's. Not even many needed (maybe 1 per 4 Eagle 2's), they could fulfill the TWS guidance of the Eagle 2's missiles and leave the 35's to do their own thing and act as a backup to the 22's should they have to break.
The F-15EX is a great match with the F-35. Against all non-peer nations this airframe will destroys their air forces easily. Well done.
Absolutely a game changer. Love the new Eagle II. And I have hated on the F-35 but with the new block 4 upgrades coming the 2 of these planes are going to rule the skies for years to come.
What are the block 4 enhancements to the F-35 ? Do they apply to all versions, A, B, & C ?
@@CharlesFosterMalloy 0rignaly it was reported the the biggest upgrade would be the Adaptive Cycle Engine for the A and C variants..but now GE has got if adapted for the B model. I don't know if the I model for Israel is getting it. There are electronic upgrades and network upgrades.
@@Matterian Is the new engine ready for mass production and installation now ?
@@CharlesFosterMalloy That I do not know.
@Matterian I web searched it and found this:
"What is the decision on the F-35 engine?"
"The Air Force is ditching its plans to develop a new engine for its F-35 fleet and will instead upgrade the existing Pratt & Whitney engines so the planes have enough power to use future weapons.Mar 13, 2023"
[I wonder if that includes lasers and directed energy weapons ?]
It's really the F-1 5EX Eagle, and everybody knows it.
Long Live Eagle!!
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Looking forward to hearing "Let's take a look at this militarized crop duster" next
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I've always been a proponent of modernizing the F15 and F16 that we already have since they're amazing planes. Looks like I got my wish !!!
I think the reverse makes more sense. Instead of just a missile truck, the more advanced fighters plow ahead and take out targets that can be a threat to the f-15 flight. This would break apart the networked defenses allowing the f-15 into the area to bomb and send long-range air-to-air missiles deeper into enemy territory. Being a twin seat makes the Eagle prime for loyal wingman and drone control as well. Imagine not even needing an f-35. The f-15 gets linked to a couple of LO drones that fly ahead, and ID targets await orders from the f-15 WIZO to execute. I would really like to see an f-15 with the next-generation jamming pods. With those, they'd be able to keep the enemy from locking on long enough to prosecute the target, just like the EA-18 growler but with way more range, speed, and payload.
Nice!
They should have updated the F-14 Tomcat with new engines, avionics ( fly by wire ), aesa radar, and electronic warfare suite.
I have a feeling with the F-15's successful combat history, it's going to be around a while longer with the up grade improvements as time goes on. This Jet's going to be
around well into the 21st century.
History will prove the Eagle the best plane ever made. I think its biggest advantage will be with launching hypersonic missiles very long range. I'd love to see it get upgraded and go even faster possibly with next gen adaptive cycle engines which might get it over mach 3 so it can match or beat the Mig 31 Foxhounds 2.83. I know the Eagles is more versatile already and more maneuverable anyway. I know it is unlikely given the NGAD program but its possible depending on what this program look like - Eagles can still be a use full support well into the future.
Regarding the aircraft the only metrics that determine missile performance is aircraft speed and altitude. The higher and faster the host aircraft the further the missile will go.
Such a beautiful fighter jet.
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A mixture of F 15 II along with F 35 plus drones would definitely be unrivaled but a formidable force.
Good to be deployed in Alaska among other places and carriers..
Hmmmm, putting upgraded avionics on a proven platform makes sense to me. I remember the episode of dogfights of the future where they had the B-1R as an "off platform weapons carrier". The smaller more agile F-15 makes more sense for that role to me.
so it's not that the AIM-120 has longer range when launched from an F-15, but rather when launched from high altitude and velocity (in direction of target). And it makes sense to have the F-15 launch, then hand off to F35.
If we are going for extreme range, then flight profile is a big factor. If the F-15 launch aircraft is at 50,000 ft, I would think launch at an upward angle and having the missile reach 100,000 ft to cruise towards the target. this is the flight profile of Standard
I would say the F15 EX is exactly what you would need to take out waves of drones.
Wow, a remarkable aircraft indeed. I just love the teen series. But that hi-lo mix statement got me thinking... Wasn't the F-16XL Kingsnake a competitor to this? What if the Kingsnake got produced as well? With its impressive 21 hardpoints I wonder if it could carry even more of these AIM-120s and still cost less in flight hours than any of the hi-mix F-15s
The F-15EX would have been a great choice for the RCAF's Arctic patrol mission
Unfortunately, Canada doesn't have a good record in deciding on the advanced technologies they need. Canada is a NATO country and as such needs to be prepared to send its forces that are not only NATO compatible but comparable to NATO technology.
Not too long ago, Canada was considering "upgrading" its fighters with used older models F-18's from Australia and eliminated the F-35 from as an option. Later Canada eventually decided for a competition between the F-35 and the Swedish Gripen. I think after Finland decided to buy the F-35, Canada was leaning toward the F-35. Canada doesn't have a large defense budget nor does it have sufficient cargo aircraft, refueler, and shipping to move major forces to Europe.
In other words, Canada has lulled itself into thinking that it a self-defense force for Canada which doesn't really have any major threats or does it believe it will commit major Canadian forces to a major war. Instead, Canada needs to have a military that can provide significant capability to NATO in the shortest time possible.
Currently, the RCAF only has 80 CF-18 Hornets and 18 F/A 18 Hornets and 5 C-117's and 5 aerial tankers.
As a NATO member, Canada is obligated to spend a minimum of 2% of GDP on defense. However, Canada only spends 1.39% of GDP which is less than Greece, the US, ?Croatia, UK, Estonia, Latvia, Poland, Lithuania, Romania, and France to name a few. Not only that by Canada has included spending in Veterans Affairs, Public Works, and the Treasury Board in calculating its NATO defense spending obligations which is still only 1.39% of its 2% real obligation. So what contribution to defense does VA, Public Works, and the Treasury Board have to NATO defense obligations?
When I search for "Canadian Armed Forces" I get returns on compassion, inclusivity, humanitarian missions, Habitant for Humanity, and other woke ads. The primary mission of any country's military is to overwhelm and defeat its enemies as quickly as possible to break their will to fight.
Canada sometimes participates in the US RIMPAC exercise in Hawaii, but I don't see any Canadian ships participating in Freedom of Seas patrols with the US, Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, UK, Germany, France, India, and the Philippines in the western Pacific. Why? Because Canada only operates 12 frigates, 4 submarines, 2 Arctic patrol ships, 12 costal-defense vessels, and 8 unarmed patrol/training vessels. Wow! that has everyone shaking in their boots.
Look, I get it. Canada is not the US. But Canada should be shamed and embarrassed that Latvia spends more of it's GDP for NATO defense than Canada.
I served 21 years in the US Marine Corps as an infantry officer with 3 years in combat. I trained with very small Canadian units on exercises. They were OK but in my opinion would not bring much to the fight. Canada sends a couple of F-18's to exercises in Europe, but they contribute almost nothing against a tier one enemy.
I've also trained with the UK Marines and the Australians. These are first class fighters.
The unfortunate fact is that Canada's military is pretty much a joke except for certain specialized units who are very good.
Not sure when Canada is going to wake up to understand that we are in very dangerous environment and get serious about a professional military that can provide significant capability to the fight. Or maybe like Trudeau Canada has just gone 100% woke and gives a rat's flying potato about its obligations to NATO and helping to secure the western Pacific.
I used to live in Canada. Great people, beautiful country, but a bat shit woke California-like government that is destroying your country as California is destroying itself and my country.
I think the F15 is a great fighter and will do well in this role.
I think the US made a major strategic mistake by not producing ASF version of the F14 Tomcat. I believe this would have given the NAVY an viable option that would have allowed extended range protection, and unmatched flexibility in all other missions.
A question for PilotPhotog.
With the increasing capabilites and technologies of 4th, 4+, 4.5 gen fighters, is it possible that newer and more advanced craft will be reclassified or put in separate generations?
Look into the Silent Eagle program, it sounds like exactly what you want. Every new variant is re classified and once replaced or no longer deemed critical to operation it can be declassified. Moving from 4th to 5th seems almost impossible considering the massive changes to the entire aircraft, but 5th to 6th does seem realistic, though we don’t know enough about 6th gens to really say for sure. Normally though aircraft move within their own generation without moving up
Now pair this with the replacement for the AIM-120 the AIM-260 with a 200KM range and Mach 5 speed.
US has AIM-260 JATM with same range of 200km+ of PL-15 or Meteor but may also have a passive seeker similar to AIM-120D3. JATM enters initial operational capability IOC this year. Their is also LREW comparable to PL-21 for taking out enemy AWACS. Also the new Peregrine missile that may replace AIM-9X in the future. It has more range like AIM-120C but only half the size also with thrust vectoring and tri mode seeker, i.e. it has active radar homing, passive radar homing, and infrared homing.
Still not integrated. And giving problems it seems. There is at least 5 years before AIM 260 is combat ready. Today the MRCA meteor is the top long range weapon on any air force. Russian missiles have the range but lack maneuverability and like most Russian things, reliability. The aim 120 has good maneuverability but not enough range.
@@EduSanjuan777 I'd still go with AIM-120D3 as it has a passive seeker. With this even enemy stealth is useless. Meteor don't have this. AIM-260 is new of course it may have problems but until then AIM-120D3 it is.
@@johnsilver9338 when a missile comes at you at mach 5 like the Meteor does, it doesn't matter much if you see it coming. Also the meteor has its own guidance for the final phase which means it can adapt for enemy maneuverability. I honestly think the passive seeker is irrelevant. Also stealth matters when you are launching from afar aka locking with the plane radar. Again if you mean you can lock an amraam without giving your position I get that but that has to do more with the plane than the missile. For me the Meteor is superior to the amraam on every way.
@@EduSanjuan777 You have missed the point of a passive seeker. A missile with a passive seeker will home-in on enemy's radar emissions regardless if its stealth or not. It's an anti-radiation missile. This means 4th gen can target 5th gen as well.
@@EduSanjuan777 AIM-260 may even take it further. It may have infrared homing besides active and passive radar homing. Meaning it can either target the enemy's radar cross-section RCS, or its radar emissions, or its thermal signature. Infrared homing has only ever been used on short range AAM. AIM-260 will be the first BVRAAM to use it.
Stealth may become less of an issue with the new plans for lasers as a missile defense
Canada should cancel the F-35 and get Eagle 2’s. It’s perfect. 😂
good to hear US finally pairing great airplanes F-15 eagles with vastly improved missle weaponry. Range, speed, better sensors we can do right now to maintain peace. And be able to afford it. I hope they are thinking about upgrading the F-2 with the upcoming adaptive engine (super cruise) technology.
When they still called it the F-15 EX they said it could carry 20 Amraams.
I believe the metor is better than AIM 120
On another video an F-15E back seater said that the two fairings by the canopy on U.S. F-15EX have nothing in them. It was an option on exported variants.
The F15 wasn't going anywhere, so going to digital is going to make maintaining these plane's much easier and cost effective, i'm sure we'll end up with more than 80 (what is that, 6 squadron's?) ... Also since they're now fly-by-wire, it's a shame they didn't go side-stick like the f16/22/35
The F-15 Eagle 2 with EPAWS and Advanced AMRAM 120 bring the aircraft out of the 20th century but its integration into our future (soon) war with China is a TBD. What should have been added was the stealth features of the F-15 Silent Eagle to minimize its detection range and the addition of a multicycle engine (being tested now).
“Long Range Strategic Strike” Asset. Where have I heard that saying before, especially around F-15s? 🤔 😛
A lot of your points weren't necessarily accurate, the F-35 still has the world's most advanced and capable Radar and EW suite and has the furthest range of detection, the F-15 II instead has the most advanced radar suite of any 4th gen aircraft, and 2nd just behind the Growler in 4th gen EW. The F-15 II was developed to complement F-35's in SEAD or Air dominance missions as a missile truck for the F-35 to command and improve situational awareness. The Block 4 upgrade to the F-35 will allow 8 Aim 9x internally, or 6 Aim 120Ds and advancements to the Radar and processors on top of a missile countermeasure which is a mini missile that uses kinetic force to destroy incoming missiles, which allow the F-35 to act as the guard of the F-15 missile/bomb trucks and guiding them through contested airspace by jamming enemy forces and destroying any Airborne threats such as fighters or missiles that threaten the group. It's an incredible feat of combined arms that is unmatched by any other nation
This only levels the playing field in the sense that if anything was on the field, its been leveled lol
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The problem is that the F-15EX radar and capabilities are limited by its AIM-120. I'm hoping that the farther range and faster missile be in service as soon as possible and that is the AIM-260, a two-stage Mach 5 Active-radar homing missile.
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Can the USAF get their naming consistent; chose either "Super Eagle", or "Hornet II".
USAF does not fly the Hornet. US Navy and Marines fly the Hornet and they choose the official names for their aircraft while the pilots of all services provide unofficial names, like Warthog!
@@rpeltier2621 Thanks. That explains everything! 🙂
I could care less what they name it as long as they keep the official designation consistent; we all know it's the F-15F, why they insist on calling it F-15 Eagle II is beyond me.
@@pyronuke4768 Situation with initial F-5 being named "Freedom Fighter" and F-5E appeared to be "Tiger II" - is even more confusing.
Well, 101 miles, but that was probably fired from high altitude supersonic to low altitude, against a non-maneuvering target drone.
I suspect the EX will really hit it's stride with the AIM-260. The radar on the F-15 would have no problem targeting without a forward spotter with AIM-120's. AIM-260's though...
It also can do deep strike. Obviously it's vulnerable to good air defense, but the sheer range forces the adversary to spread their air defense out over a much larger area. So even without actually 'doing' the deep strike, just the capability can force a foe to spread their AD out with much lower density.
Also, in ground attack, it's (post SEAD) price per pound of ordinance + mile of range, is unparalleled unless you reach for something like a B-52.
Oh and it can carry a heck of a lot more AIM-120's than 12. But 12 is a decent number to fly a sortie with if you're balancing against extreme range & loiter.
No matter what the AF tries to name it, I'm sure it will be known as the F-1sex, kinda like the Bone.
lets not forget that there is aim260 which is apparently beiing tested with the F-22 Green bats.
Awesome we need 200 of these and the new f16v b70/72
All those hard points would be useful for air to ground missions.
Ok looking at other Aircraft Aside from my Previous Text The F35 Lightning 2 has a Place of it's own and is worthy of that place.
The Rumours about Using this Aircraft in both the Fighter Role as well as A Predominantly Ground Strike Version, Yes ok but really would it be that Great.
Going back to when The United states and Australia had the F111 in service it was one of the Greatest Strike Aircraft I have ever seen.
The killer of this Aircraft was it was getting older and top heavy Maintenance wise but was it Premature not to Think About a New Version as they Once Did so I was told.
Interesting isn't it, I wonder what our Two Countries would say to an Enhanced version of the F111 Aardvark, Seems to me Quite simple, Bring i On.
John Woodall
Queensland Australia.
The F-15EX Eagle II is not 4th gen its 4+ generation... ;)
Is the F-15EX capable of carrying decoy drones? If so, imagine seeing four of these things on your radar suddenly becoming 20... and since they're both made by Boeing, it shouldn't be that hard to incorporate some of the EF-18's electronic attack pods as well. These things may very well become the F-35 and F-22's best friends.
The AIM 260 will be the true game changer in the air, and it's capabilities will be the edge needed in the coming air superiority war.
F-35's guiding F-15EX's with 12 AIM-260's on each plane is literally unbeatable. And the US is leapfrogging themselves with the NGAD fighter that will be even more advanced than the F-35.
EPAWSS and all the extra computer processing power confers organic SEAD/DEAD and ISR capabilities as well. Advanced weapons carrying racks (like AMBER) could bring the AAM/ARM max count to over 20.
Love the F15. One of the greatest fighters ever!
Looks good to me
I’m sorry but the C3 are not the newest AMRAAMs, the C8s are which is the same as the D
Love this, how can we make it better, add MORE WEAPONS
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A missle truck, good idea
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What if the Darkstar from the Movie Top Gun (Maverick) was to come about in reality and into Service with it's Hypersonic Engines Etc.
It would be One Hell of an Aircraft and Very Suitable as an ICBM Look Down, Shoot Down Interceptor flying at SR71 type Altitude, Maybe even Higher with Pressurised Cockpit Area Though, As a Tactical Fighter size would not be a Concern if the Concept Aircraft in it's Current Form is anything to Go By.
The Potential is Absolutely Positive and in Retrospect Entirely Possible in the not to Distant Future.
Also the Lockheed Martin F22N Naval Swing Wing Version of the Raptor is it was an Interesting Concept as well.
Single Seat, Thrust Vectoring and all the Technicality that we now know if built in again it's not meant to be Stealthy in it's Format compared to the Land Based F22 Raptor.
The Swing Wing definitely makes her a Bigger Aircraft but Capability Wise I would be inclined to say Very Much an Aircraft Not To Be Messed With.
Her Stand Off Long Range Missiles would be Advantageous and Those for close in Air to Air Superiority Quite capable as well as Retractable Multi Barrel Canon with even Possibly Two under Structural Area of Main Fuselage Frame to Swing Wing Access Internal Pivotal area would be a Killer if it were Possible.
The B21 Raider offers Much just like the B2 Spirit, I hope Their Right about this Bomber but we will get to see her Performance at Various Air Show's Etc.
In terms of That said about the Darkstar ICBM Interceptor concept, In tune with Modernised Patriot Missile Batteries would Present a Deterrent in many ways but also what if that Surrounding EMP (Electo Magnetic Pulse) War Head ICBM's as a Choice of Weapon to that of all out Nuclear Warheads.
An Electronic and all Electrical Melting EMP Weapon would certainly bring Parties Opposed to Us to the Talks Table Very Quickly I think.
John Woodall
Queensland Australia.
It's A "Missile Truck" longest range targeting should be expected as is "Data Link Targeting", otherwise known as launching A missile at A target someone else is "Painting".
Why not just add a booster stage to old AMRAAMs? The extra size wouldn't matter much for external carriage.
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when is extrended range AMRAM coming into service? US should have bought meteors also
The Eagles' claws just got a lot sharper...