If Magpul made an A1 style and length stock that fit on a carbine length tube they would sell a million of them. All it would need is a locking tab and screw on the underside to lock into one of the adjustment notches in the buffer tube.
Just trying to cover the basics first, but don't worry...there's SO much more for us to cover as we build out the library. Glad to have you aboard early on! :)
@@At3tactical good to know! I have an A5 which is why I ask but got it based on recommendations from more experienced shooters than myself. It seems to work great overall, no issues. I just want to hear your take on it and any recommendations for owning one because you break things down really well!
Whaaaaat??? Just now finding me?! J/K.... glad to have you aboard with us. Funny enough, a lot more salty/shooting crossover than I would've thought! - Randy
I wish they still made the M93B Experimental, although the Ergo version was easier to install. The M93B definitely wasn't the most economical choice with a price of $175-$200 but it is the most robust collapsible stock I've ever used. I have 4 and I'm always on the lookout for more on the used market. Good video, useful information that was well presented.
@@At3tactical MagPul created the "M93B Experimental" collapsible stock, MSRP $250 +/-. It came with shims of various thickness to properly index the stock to your lower, a definite pita. MagPul discontinued that stock, probably due to it's complexity or maybe low sales IDK, but had some kind of deal with Ergo who made a slightly improved version, std plate and castle nut no shims, and sold it as the Ergo F93 (I’m pretty sure it's F93). My last Ergo 93 was $150-$200 I don't remember exactly. The last MagPul M93B Experimental I saw for sale was on GB, the seller was asking $450 and I'm almost certain that was used not NOS. There were 2 accessories available for the 93, a 1/4" thick rubber butt "pad" that is for no slip and a "strike plate". The strike plate fits on the toe of the butt, is aluminum and has "serrations". If you manage to find one it will probably have the butt pad but it's gonna be 50/50 at best on the strike plate being there. I've made several, I have a Bridgeport, so if you wind up needing one let me know. Edit Here's a link to a 13 year old UA-cam video, review of the MagPul M93B.
I love the look of the fixed carbine stock but it's just too short for me. Even with the thicker butt pad you can get for it, the length of pull never felt right for me and I'm like 5'9 on a good posture day.
I recently got the MOE® Fixed Carbine Stock - Mil-Spec and while a good stock, it shortens the LOP by about 1-1.5 inches. I needed a longer length of pull so, I did what any good American would do and got on you tube. Turns out the fix is relativity easy but requires drilling the tube. Mission is accomplished ( about 10 mins of your time) and length of pull is where it should be for me, for anyone else, maybe not.
I am confused by their website. I really like the look of the SL series, but on their website every SL series it says carbine stock. Does this mean I need to get a carbine sized buffer tube. Thanks
What kind of buffer tube do you have? The mil spec carbine size is very popular. If you are not suer watch this video ua-cam.com/video/RTKTj1Z9FtM/v-deo.html
grips next but not just magpul. all I have ever wanted out of a stock is lightweight ergonomic feel, A.L.P. needs to hide buffertube and caste nut, and be the same width and length of the rear of the receivers. giving it that look that it is made to the rear of the receivers, similar to a fixed stock or the magpul PRS. preferably less than $49. which in my opinion, is plenty for a well made stock of any brand. anything more is just highway robbery
The majority of fixed stock lengths you'll find these days are going to be that A2 length (~10"in). CMMG and a handful of other manufacturers do make A1 lengths as well (~9.75+"in).
If your Aero has the Aero AR308 Carbine Buffer Kit, then you certainly can use the Magpul CTR. The difference comes down to that buffer tube length. Many AR10s utilize a "Rifle Length" buffer tube, which is the same length as your A2 Fixed-Stock AR15 buffer tubes (really, almost all "Rifle Length" AR15 buffer tubes). That said, because the CTR is for a "Carbine Length" buffer tube (think of most collapsible stock AR15s out there), in order to use it for your standard AR10 with a "Rifle Length" buffer system... you would need to swap the buffer spring, buffer weight, and buffer tube. (Which is why Aero makes the AR308 Carbine Buffer Kit.) Hopefully that helps. Check out this full video we did on the in's/out's of all things buffer assemblies! Pretty good info and refresher. :) ua-cam.com/video/RTKTj1Z9FtM/v-deo.html
Sl-k, basically the same as SL version but more compact so faster shouldering and lock into shoulder. lighter and less stuff to snag on. quicker and less protrusive
I always go for the STR. I prefer the cheek weld. However I do have some advice for people who want the CTR with a riser. Buy the either the Larue riser that actually slides on guiderods and springs. Or get the Magpul riser and grab your professional gunsmithing dremel and cut off wheel. Cut it back to the first internal rib you can then use your charging handle and have a good riser For taller sights
I just don't like the fit and feel on the stock, stock on my m&p 15. It just doesn't feel right when I shoulder it. I would love to try one of the ones with the adjustable cheek well.
Haha! Well, now that it's looking like I'll need a new stock for my "ATF compliant" AR Pistol->SBR ... For that stubby 10.5" setup, I'm sold on that Magpul SL-M or SL-K. Just matches the mission set for that tiny pistol. For the bigger brother... (Shhh... It's a B5 Systems SOPMOD, because it's so nice 'gainst the cheeks. 😅)
I've got only Magpul stocks on my 6.5 Grendels and 6mmARCs, with two of them the PRS Lite. I like the look of the PRS Lite, but the cheek riser adjustment is kinda pointless on an AR, with its straightline stock-to-sights alignment. I like the "fat" cheekweld of their storage stocks, but replaced the ACS - cuz of their bulk and their little side storage compartments are useless - with the SL-S.
Thanks! Glad to help. Because the battery storage is more "tucked in" or slimmed on the SL-S, it's going to have slightly less surface area for your cheek weld. (Slightly... like ~0.2" difference from 2.4" - 2.6") For me, both have WAY better cheek space than the CTR (~1.7")...in which case the choice would be weighted more towards the type of storage I would prefer, assuming that is a feature you are looking for with these two options. In that department, the SL-S would be my personal choice. Hope that helps! -Randy
I recently bought a diamondback db15 300 blk and was looking to possibly change the stock I have the moe the basic one but was looking to see something that might help with recoil any thoughts?
Randy just started watching your videos very informative. Reference to Magpul slings and stocks there seems to be way too many choices. In the future could you please narrow those choices down to your top picks. Thanks so much keep up the good work
Thanks, Gary...! I can 100% put a bit more personal opinion in these videos. It's sometimes difficult to strike the balance between unbiased info and not seeming like a "shill". In this case, for me ...MS4 as a standard minimum, but adjust as mission necessary. (I.e. - MSR1 Padded w/sling swivels and "rifleman's loop" ready for longer range/heavier shooting.) 👍
@@grantgames4637 In that case, additional battery storage would definitely be top of mind for me. Knowing batteries fail at the most opportune times (let's be honest, I fail the batteries by leaving them on), automatically I want spares on hand. The CTR does not have that feature. Sure, batteries can go in the pistol grip...but depending on which laser or light you go with, at a minimum each will require at least one CR123 or similar sized battery. The STR holds 4 in total and it is has a FAR more reliable waterproofing seal than the ACSs of the world. Hope that helps!
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Perfect timing, Randy! I am looking to replace a pistol brace with a stock. I adding a 16-in barrel (in case big brother is watching).
If Magpul made an A1 style and length stock that fit on a carbine length tube they would sell a million of them.
All it would need is a locking tab and screw on the underside to lock into one of the adjustment notches in the buffer tube.
Hey Randy!!! Good to see you again.
Hey! I was wondering if I'd see your channel icon over here! Thanks for coming along. Hope you and the family are doing well! -Randy
Why don't you include A5 buffer tubes in your videos? I'd be interested in seeing them in your lineup!
Just trying to cover the basics first, but don't worry...there's SO much more for us to cover as we build out the library. Glad to have you aboard early on! :)
@@At3tactical good to know! I have an A5 which is why I ask but got it based on recommendations from more experienced shooters than myself. It seems to work great overall, no issues. I just want to hear your take on it and any recommendations for owning one because you break things down really well!
My AR came with a B5 system stock and I replaced it with the Magpul STR. MUCH BETTER. I love the ergonomic butt pad.
Thanks for this detailed information! Learned alot!
Glad it was helpful!
Never saw this channel
before. I heard the voice and thought I clicked a BRS link instead? 😂
Whaaaaat??? Just now finding me?! J/K.... glad to have you aboard with us. Funny enough, a lot more salty/shooting crossover than I would've thought! - Randy
Cheek riser on the moe/ctr stocks? One word. Larue.
I wish they still made the M93B Experimental, although the Ergo version was easier to install. The M93B definitely wasn't the most economical choice with a price of $175-$200 but it is the most robust collapsible stock I've ever used. I have 4 and I'm always on the lookout for more on the used market.
Good video, useful information that was well presented.
Much appreciated! Interesting, I'll have to see if I can source one of those for myself and give it a try.- Randy
@@At3tactical MagPul created the "M93B Experimental" collapsible stock, MSRP $250 +/-. It came with shims of various thickness to properly index the stock to your lower, a definite pita. MagPul discontinued that stock, probably due to it's complexity or maybe low sales IDK, but had some kind of deal with Ergo who made a slightly improved version, std plate and castle nut no shims, and sold it as the Ergo F93 (I’m pretty sure it's F93).
My last Ergo 93 was $150-$200 I don't remember exactly. The last MagPul M93B Experimental I saw for sale was on GB, the seller was asking $450 and I'm almost certain that was used not NOS. There were 2 accessories available for the 93, a 1/4" thick rubber butt "pad" that is for no slip and a "strike plate". The strike plate fits on the toe of the butt, is aluminum and has "serrations".
If you manage to find one it will probably have the butt pad but it's gonna be 50/50 at best on the strike plate being there. I've made several, I have a Bridgeport, so if you wind up needing one let me know.
Edit
Here's a link to a 13 year old UA-cam video, review of the MagPul M93B.
I love the look of the fixed carbine stock but it's just too short for me. Even with the thicker butt pad you can get for it, the length of pull never felt right for me and I'm like 5'9 on a good posture day.
it's definitely short. helps to have a more vertical pistolgrip like a magpul k2, bcm mod 3, reptilia cqg, etc
Thank you! That's very informative on the Magpul STOCKS. Now I know how to make my selection.
Glad to help!
I recently got the MOE® Fixed Carbine Stock - Mil-Spec and while a good stock, it shortens the LOP by about 1-1.5 inches. I needed a longer length of pull so, I did what any good American would do and got on you tube. Turns out the fix is relativity easy but requires drilling the tube. Mission is accomplished ( about 10 mins of your time) and length of pull is where it should be for me, for anyone else, maybe not.
Wish yall would do a beard hair pull review! Btw the ACS is the worst!
🤣 Noted
I am confused by their website. I really like the look of the SL series, but on their website every SL series it says carbine stock. Does this mean I need to get a carbine sized buffer tube. Thanks
What kind of buffer tube do you have? The mil spec carbine size is very popular. If you are not suer watch this video ua-cam.com/video/RTKTj1Z9FtM/v-deo.html
@@At3tactical oh I didn’t know tjat most builds have carbines, thanxs
grips next but not just magpul. all I have ever wanted out of a stock is lightweight ergonomic feel, A.L.P. needs to hide buffertube and caste nut, and be the same width and length of the rear of the receivers. giving it that look that it is made to the rear of the receivers, similar to a fixed stock or the magpul PRS. preferably less than $49. which in my opinion, is plenty for a well made stock of any brand. anything more is just highway robbery
It's definitely on the video to-do list!
These fixed stocks. Are they A1 or A2 length?
The majority of fixed stock lengths you'll find these days are going to be that A2 length (~10"in). CMMG and a handful of other manufacturers do make A1 lengths as well (~9.75+"in).
well done, no ums n ahhs or telln us your life story, just smooth good info! and a light! lol
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks!
Great walk through of the different stocks.
Glad you liked it!
I was looking for the CTR but I only see it advertised as AR-15 /M16 will that work for my Aero AR-10?
If your Aero has the Aero AR308 Carbine Buffer Kit, then you certainly can use the Magpul CTR. The difference comes down to that buffer tube length. Many AR10s utilize a "Rifle Length" buffer tube, which is the same length as your A2 Fixed-Stock AR15 buffer tubes (really, almost all "Rifle Length" AR15 buffer tubes).
That said, because the CTR is for a "Carbine Length" buffer tube (think of most collapsible stock AR15s out there), in order to use it for your standard AR10 with a "Rifle Length" buffer system... you would need to swap the buffer spring, buffer weight, and buffer tube. (Which is why Aero makes the AR308 Carbine Buffer Kit.)
Hopefully that helps. Check out this full video we did on the in's/out's of all things buffer assemblies! Pretty good info and refresher. :) ua-cam.com/video/RTKTj1Z9FtM/v-deo.html
@@At3tactical awesome thank you sooo much man!! I’ll be watching tonight!!!!
Can I get a Magpul adjustable cheek rest for an ar-pistol tho? Similar to the Thordsen Customs 😅
Sl-k, basically the same as SL version but more compact so faster shouldering and lock into shoulder. lighter and less stuff to snag on. quicker and less protrusive
i dont like the a2 buffer tube, but need a fixed stock ... I was hoping the "prs lite" fit a rifle length buffer tube but sounds like nope...
I always go for the STR. I prefer the cheek weld. However I do have some advice for people who want the CTR with a riser. Buy the either the Larue riser that actually slides on guiderods and springs. Or get the Magpul riser and grab your professional gunsmithing dremel and cut off wheel. Cut it back to the first internal rib you can then use your charging handle and have a good riser
For taller sights
^^^ Words from first hand experience, folks... These are the people to listen to!
Wtf? I've never heard anyone pronounce MOE as Moe. Always Em Oh Ee. 😂 Doesn't make any difference to me, but it would to many of my veteran friends.🤣
😂 Believe me, it hurts this old vet as well...but the younger community just loves shortening things!
-Randy
I just don't like the fit and feel on the stock, stock on my m&p 15. It just doesn't feel right when I shoulder it. I would love to try one of the ones with the adjustable cheek well.
moe sl on top
So your favorite is???? Thank you for your time and we love the videos.
Haha! Well, now that it's looking like I'll need a new stock for my "ATF compliant" AR Pistol->SBR ... For that stubby 10.5" setup, I'm sold on that Magpul SL-M or SL-K. Just matches the mission set for that tiny pistol. For the bigger brother... (Shhh... It's a B5 Systems SOPMOD, because it's so nice 'gainst the cheeks. 😅)
My man went from selling fish supplies to gats.
Bro... A lifetime of handling guns and 16yrs in the Army.... yeah, found a solid niche to spread knowledge nuggets to the masses! 😅
@@At3tactical love the content on both channels.
I just ordered an AR and it says it has a "mid-length" gas system...does that mean a carbine length? Or am I confusing two different things?
They are not the same. www.at3tactical.com/blogs/news/mid-length-vs-rifle-length-vs-carbine-length-gas-system-ar15-gas-systems
Em Oh Eee
You forgot that the PRS stock has an MLOK at the bottom
I've got only Magpul stocks on my 6.5 Grendels and 6mmARCs, with two of them the PRS Lite. I like the look of the PRS Lite, but the cheek riser adjustment is kinda pointless on an AR, with its straightline stock-to-sights alignment. I like the "fat" cheekweld of their storage stocks, but replaced the ACS - cuz of their bulk and their little side storage compartments are useless - with the SL-S.
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Is it possible to just remove the cheek riser off the PRS Lite stock?
@@Shark_Theory It would be mostly pointless cuz it's only about 1/8" thick.
If these tubes are for batteries WERE DO I PUT MY BEEFJERKY LOL
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks you made me feel better about my STR purchase.
Awesome! Exactly what we were hoping for.
Great Magpul stock review! Thank you!
No problem! Glad to help out.
Great video thank you!! I’m leaning towards the str/sl-s. Which one has more width or check space.
Thanks! Glad to help. Because the battery storage is more "tucked in" or slimmed on the SL-S, it's going to have slightly less surface area for your cheek weld. (Slightly... like ~0.2" difference from 2.4" - 2.6") For me, both have WAY better cheek space than the CTR (~1.7")...in which case the choice would be weighted more towards the type of storage I would prefer, assuming that is a feature you are looking for with these two options. In that department, the SL-S would be my personal choice. Hope that helps! -Randy
Im stuck between the b5 systems and hogue overmould stocks
Ubr Stock needs more love just for the fact it does not try to pull your beard out. I use it on all 5.56 rifles.
Us bearded beauties sure have it rough! 🤣
I did NOT expect to see Randy from BRS doing pew pew stuff, but nice surprise! 🤣
SURPRISE! 😅 Funny how many crossover hobbyists we have, not surprising given the complication and our desire to spend money! Glad to have you aboard.
@AT3 Tactical it goes through phases from spending money on guns, then 300 gallon reef, then house, then camping and then starts again.
Calling it Moe….I always thought it was M.O.E? Which is it?
Tomatoe, Tomahtoe... I think either way you put it, we all know what stock it is. 😅
Wanted a folding stock setup for my CMMG Mkgs 9mm banshee. What setup are you folks using out there?
I love all stock M4
I recently bought a diamondback db15 300 blk and was looking to possibly change the stock I have the moe the basic one but was looking to see something that might help with recoil any thoughts?
Thoughts on the Ubr gen 2 after using it?
Great video! Thanks!
Glad you liked it! Thanks. :)
The prs gen 3 is right up my alley. Id love to give that a try. And the light version looks good too.
What’s it going on?
Great wrap up on the Magpul choices, thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!
Randy just started watching your videos very informative. Reference to Magpul slings and stocks there seems to be way too many choices. In the future could you please narrow those choices down to your top picks. Thanks so much keep up the good work
Thanks, Gary...! I can 100% put a bit more personal opinion in these videos. It's sometimes difficult to strike the balance between unbiased info and not seeming like a "shill".
In this case, for me ...MS4 as a standard minimum, but adjust as mission necessary. (I.e. - MSR1 Padded w/sling swivels and "rifleman's loop" ready for longer range/heavier shooting.) 👍
Thank you!
ctr or STR?
For me, Randy, STR out of the two...but those two serve a couple different purposes.
@@At3tactical what about it makes it more worth it? I’m thinking of getting a flashlight and laser
@@grantgames4637 In that case, additional battery storage would definitely be top of mind for me. Knowing batteries fail at the most opportune times (let's be honest, I fail the batteries by leaving them on), automatically I want spares on hand. The CTR does not have that feature. Sure, batteries can go in the pistol grip...but depending on which laser or light you go with, at a minimum each will require at least one CR123 or similar sized battery. The STR holds 4 in total and it is has a FAR more reliable waterproofing seal than the ACSs of the world. Hope that helps!
STR all day long
Original stock is best
I know i will probably never own an ar-15. but i love watching your videos talking about these things!
Great bunch of tips. Helped a lot. Thank you and Hi from Ukraine! 🇺🇦
Glad to help! Thanks for watching. Stay safe out there!
@@At3tactical 🙏
Jeez can you put it on the damn gun
You can still run a cheek riser, just cut off the front end off at the little seam and boom…
I just got the urge to buy some reefkeeping products!
😅 But, But, AR-15 parts.....🤣😉
More Tapco Tacticool.