Outstanding! Thank you because This is critically important for our and future generations. So glad to see Astroscale doing this,nand lets hope it snowballs.
@captntorthenaer-do-wellcad3191 yup globe setting one trip at a time to report on things available on the internet. It is like Oneweb announced support for this in 2019 or something. 😂
@@captntorthenaer-do-wellcad3191 And just like "Jimmy" Cricket (Walt Disney is rolling in his grave right now) Jordan has no power to influence the space industry in the slightest. It's one of the hazards of journalism to get too big a head on your shoulders and imagine the tail wags the dog.
Your message implies, "forget about space until the oceans are cleaned!" Not only is this idealistic, it is unrealistic. There are enough humans to work on everything all at once. Your position is a thinly veiled attack of all things space. That's my suspiscion!
Great update Jordan! This makes me very happy! It has to start somewhere and your voice helps add weight to the call for more responsiobility from the big players and adding pressure on them to do so. So Great job!
One line in that whole report needs to stand up! All nations all companies need to invest in this technology! We absolutely must get that space debris deorbited!
Fyi: Starlink is in such a low orbit that a broken satellite will plunge into the atmosphere and burn up quite fast if no station-keeping can be done. I'm more concerned with satellites in higher orbit. A good initative to clean up. 👏
Excellent story! A vitally important subject. It's not only interesting because of the importance of avoiding a Kessler Syndrome situation but because it's the first example we have of the space economy expanding into orbital services aside from the trips to the ISS, which is a little different. With the ISS, it's commercial services supporting a governmental project. With this, it's a commercial service providing something necessary for other commercial services! The money isn't just being raised by taxation to fund projects; the commercial projects already earn money and now they're going to be spending some on these orbital services in order to avoid the Kessler Syndrome and to keep earning! That's a real economy! Very exciting!
The headline is deceptive. This is not about cleaning up space junk, it's about preventing it in the future. It's a great idea, just not as ambitious as the title suggests.
In Starlink's defence they are mostly orbiting so low that they will deorbit naturaly in a couple of years it's the junk that's orbiting over 700km that will take decades - never to deorbit that we really need to worry about
I have been mentioning an idea for a or some "space drones" for space junk removal by pushing or guiding with magnets, lasers, compressed air or gasses to the Earth's atmosphere to burn up & or collect the junk in orbiting space junk bins for possible recycling or reuse on Earth by a returning space vehicle thats done with it's mission to use its now empty cargo area to hold such bins, designed to fit most areas like the old shuttles or newer ships whichever is needed.
I certainly hope that this alliance has the foresight to charge the satellite launchers or builder an appropriate fee for their efforts to clean up the junk, including NASA.
1:20 Failing Starlink satellites are *not* an issue, they are flying low enough so that they will automatically re-enter the atmosphere within weeks, they requires propulsion to stay up. So their deorbiting requires no active, functioning component, earth's gravity pull and atmospheric drag are very reliable. The problem is with other objects on higher orbits. Even the ISS would come down to earth without any interaction, it's just more risky.
Hurray ! I've been waiting for this since the late 1970's when Skylab and a Russian satellite re-entered. Many people held skylab crash parties, because what else could we do.🍺🍺🍺
I'm worried that trying to de-orbit tumbling satellites with solar panels may just create more small pieces of space junk. I suppose they have thought of this.
It is better to try and fail than not try at all. Satellites start to break down in the harsh glare of the Ultra Violate sun and sometimes their fuel spontaneously explode.
After all the efforts to send those things up there.. seriously can't we start thinking to reuse or recycle at least the material if not also components in orbit? Same would apply for ISS
Maybe a real life Space Sweepers collect all the junk in one space in higher orbit for processing in the future. Maybe Elon could make sweeper satellites in his starlink factory to collect junk in orbit and bring to a high parking orbit for processing when the technology is avalable.
I didn't get who will pay for this service? If it is not mandatory (worldwide of course...), nobody will ask for this in the case of a malfunctioning satellite that can't deorbit itself. not to mention that countries like China don't even bother with the idea of deorbiting stuff... this is a very good and absolutely needed project, but we need to enforce this, with a mandatory insurance. and again, worldwide.
imagine if elon launched a buttload of cube sats with electric drives that were piloted by people to push space junk out of orbit, maybe some disposable but others reusable for many pieces of junk, some with electric drives and others with chemical thrustors i am thinking of the smaller stuff.
Now they need to get SpaceX on board to contribute Falcon 9s and be all righteous about tidying up defective Starlinks. ULA also had a space tug design that congress nixed. Bringing them on board would be great. The UK should take the lead and organize something that works like Artemis: a multinational commitment to fix the mess in space. With the UK in the lead role.
@@frjoethesecond That's about right. For SpaceX it would just be an extension of their already in force "no explosive bolts, no extra debris in orbit" campaign. Being in the forefront of the cleanup effort of space debris would be good for SpaceX.
@@RockinRobbins13 That's a good point. The optics would be worth a lot and I guess cleaning the junk in higher orbits would also be good for their launch customers. Well said.
@@frjoethesecond And don't for a second dismiss optics as frivolous. They're vitally important. All great ideas have to be SOLD. The best way to sell is to demonstrate moral integrity and live the way you talk.
I have a question about space junk, J. Do you think it's possible that some of the materials we may or may not relating to UAPs have come from non-terrestrial space junk? I have to imagine a more intelligent race than our own would have a smaller carbon (or silicon, or whatever) footprint, but there has to be some instances where they don't realize they lose it and it floats off into space. Could this be one of many reasons behind the creation of this alliance? One species' trash is another one's treasure.
Just like with climate, this requires investment of serious money. Unfortunately, to do this, you have to not only have that money, which clearly there is no shortage of that around the planet, but be able to see past the end of your own nose to understand the gravity of those problems. So the main problem is that people who have the money usually have either a very long nose, or very bad eyesight, or both.
So a group of companies that doesn’t have reusable rockets 🚀♻️ is going to clean up space, it kinda reminds me of people who wants to burn fossil fuel so that they can capture carbon and store it.
A VERY powerful electro magnet can potentially stop an out of control de-orbiting space structure. Forces contrary to the spiraling can reign in the structure back into a controlled de-orbiting. This, imho, is brilliant!
Outstanding! Thank you because This is critically important for our and future generations. So glad to see Astroscale doing this,nand lets hope it snowballs.
And I hope the UK continues to head the effort. It's a natural fit for them and it's an essential project.
Jordan is like Jimny Cricket! ....continuing to put pressure on the greatyer space industry.
@captntorthenaer-do-wellcad3191 yup globe setting one trip at a time to report on things available on the internet. It is like Oneweb announced support for this in 2019 or something. 😂
@@captntorthenaer-do-wellcad3191 And just like "Jimmy" Cricket (Walt Disney is rolling in his grave right now) Jordan has no power to influence the space industry in the slightest. It's one of the hazards of journalism to get too big a head on your shoulders and imagine the tail wags the dog.
Good! Now, let's get the oceans cleaned up, as well. Priorities people!!🌐
There are already several companies working on that.
Your message implies, "forget about space until the oceans are cleaned!" Not only is this idealistic, it is unrealistic. There are enough humans to work on everything all at once. Your position is a thinly veiled attack of all things space. That's my suspiscion!
@@captntorthenaer-do-wellcad3191 "as well" implies both. Easy boy.
@@arxmechanica-robotics right? Anything to disagree with someone
You would be amazed how much space junk is in the ocean. If we can clean that up, we can limit the amount of satellites and junk in our water.
Good luck to them I hope they get the funding and partners they need and do this thing!
Very interesting development. Hope it jumpstarts the bigger nations towards something similar.
This is great!
I hope many satellite operators choose to use such a service.
Great update Jordan! This makes me very happy! It has to start somewhere and your voice helps add weight to the call for more responsiobility from the big players and adding pressure on them to do so. So Great job!
One line in that whole report needs to stand up! All nations all companies need to invest in this technology! We absolutely must get that space debris deorbited!
"...once and for all!" ?!? So after this you don't have to clean up anymore?!?
I like good news. Thanks 👍
Congrats on such a notable first.
Fyi: Starlink is in such a low orbit that a broken satellite will plunge into the atmosphere and burn up quite fast if no station-keeping can be done. I'm more concerned with satellites in higher orbit.
A good initative to clean up. 👏
Excellent story! A vitally important subject. It's not only interesting because of the importance of avoiding a Kessler Syndrome situation but because it's the first example we have of the space economy expanding into orbital services aside from the trips to the ISS, which is a little different. With the ISS, it's commercial services supporting a governmental project. With this, it's a commercial service providing something necessary for other commercial services! The money isn't just being raised by taxation to fund projects; the commercial projects already earn money and now they're going to be spending some on these orbital services in order to avoid the Kessler Syndrome and to keep earning! That's a real economy! Very exciting!
Congradulations on the exculsive first anouncement.
If we had a team of Gundam fighting robots they could use space junk as free target practice....oh well. 🤷♂️
I say we send Digimon.
The Rubble Alliance
I got contacted yesterday, (the afternoon of the 15th) to support a Japanese company in this endeavor.
Looks like a clever idea. Good luck to Astroscale and their efforts.👍
Well, as they say, 'better late than never'. 😎🖖
The headline is deceptive. This is not about cleaning up space junk, it's about preventing it in the future. It's a great idea, just not as ambitious as the title suggests.
In Starlink's defence they are mostly orbiting so low that they will deorbit naturaly in a couple of years it's the junk that's orbiting over 700km that will take decades - never to deorbit that we really need to worry about
I have been mentioning an idea for a or some "space drones" for space junk removal by pushing or guiding with magnets, lasers, compressed air or gasses to the Earth's atmosphere to burn up & or collect the junk in orbiting space junk bins for possible recycling or reuse on Earth by a returning space vehicle thats done with it's mission to use its now empty cargo area to hold such bins, designed to fit most areas like the old shuttles or newer ships whichever is needed.
bout time too. now make em clean the oceans too
This is as ludicrous as trying to clean the planet- while China nd India continue not giving a shit.
We shouldn’t make satellites out of wood. Magnetic plates won’t capture those guys.
Space termites will eventually eat them.
@@MrHugemoth Space termites are immune to fire.
I certainly hope that this alliance has the foresight to charge the satellite launchers or builder an appropriate fee for their efforts to clean up the junk, including NASA.
Right on!!
The evergrowing space junk.
Do the deorbiters deorbit themselves when done deorbiting or stay in orbit with the rest of the junk?
Great!
1:20 Failing Starlink satellites are *not* an issue, they are flying low enough so that they will automatically re-enter the atmosphere within weeks, they requires propulsion to stay up. So their deorbiting requires no active, functioning component, earth's gravity pull and atmospheric drag are very reliable. The problem is with other objects on higher orbits. Even the ISS would come down to earth without any interaction, it's just more risky.
You should have met with me in Milan at the IAC, Jordan. There is more going on than what you covered.
Continue?
Hurray ! I've been waiting for this since the late 1970's when Skylab and a Russian satellite re-entered. Many people held skylab crash parties, because what else could we do.🍺🍺🍺
What is the environmental impact of burning so much stuff up in the upper atmosphere? Am I the only one to ever ask this question?
No. It is a concern.
Remember that hole in the ozone?
I would love to work for a near Earth orbit clean up crew.
You can watch the excellent anime called planetES. a little old, but made with the help of NASA for accuracy. to me it is a masterpiece.
@Benn25 Thanks. Going to watch it. 👍😃
I'm worried that trying to de-orbit tumbling satellites with solar panels may just create more small pieces of space junk. I suppose they have thought of this.
It is better to try and fail than not try at all. Satellites start to break down in the harsh glare of the Ultra Violate sun and sometimes their fuel spontaneously explode.
I've seen many proposals to deorbit defunct satellites. What i haven't seen is a solution for small or untrackable debri removal.
Russia blowing up a defunk satillite with an intergalactic missle didnt help anything !
After all the efforts to send those things up there.. seriously can't we start thinking to reuse or recycle at least the material if not also components in orbit? Same would apply for ISS
Maybe a real life Space Sweepers collect all the junk in one space in higher orbit for processing in the future. Maybe Elon could make sweeper satellites in his starlink factory to collect junk in orbit and bring to a high parking orbit for processing when the technology is avalable.
I didn't get who will pay for this service? If it is not mandatory (worldwide of course...), nobody will ask for this in the case of a malfunctioning satellite that can't deorbit itself.
not to mention that countries like China don't even bother with the idea of deorbiting stuff...
this is a very good and absolutely needed project, but we need to enforce this, with a mandatory insurance. and again, worldwide.
imagine if elon launched a buttload of cube sats with electric drives that were piloted by people to push space junk out of orbit, maybe some disposable but others reusable for many pieces of junk, some with electric drives and others with chemical thrustors i am thinking of the smaller stuff.
Now they need to get SpaceX on board to contribute Falcon 9s and be all righteous about tidying up defective Starlinks. ULA also had a space tug design that congress nixed. Bringing them on board would be great. The UK should take the lead and organize something that works like Artemis: a multinational commitment to fix the mess in space. With the UK in the lead role.
Don't Starlink orbits already decay very quickly when the boosters fail? Like it takes several months to a year for them to burn up?
@@frjoethesecond That's about right. For SpaceX it would just be an extension of their already in force "no explosive bolts, no extra debris in orbit" campaign. Being in the forefront of the cleanup effort of space debris would be good for SpaceX.
@@RockinRobbins13 That's a good point. The optics would be worth a lot and I guess cleaning the junk in higher orbits would also be good for their launch customers. Well said.
@@frjoethesecond And don't for a second dismiss optics as frivolous. They're vitally important. All great ideas have to be SOLD. The best way to sell is to demonstrate moral integrity and live the way you talk.
I have a question about space junk, J. Do you think it's possible that some of the materials we may or may not relating to UAPs have come from non-terrestrial space junk? I have to imagine a more intelligent race than our own would have a smaller carbon (or silicon, or whatever) footprint, but there has to be some instances where they don't realize they lose it and it floats off into space. Could this be one of many reasons behind the creation of this alliance? One species' trash is another one's treasure.
china and sustainability in the same sentence is a nonsense
sadly you can say the same of most countries
Nonsensical sentences...still nonsensical...still sentences lol
@@jonathonpotts5666 China is responsible for like 95% of global emissions at this point. So, no, you really can't.
Didn't they get in trouble a while back for crashing their satellites into a single part of the ocean?
usa and sustainability in the same sentence is a nonsense
Just like with climate, this requires investment of serious money. Unfortunately, to do this, you have to not only have that money, which clearly there is no shortage of that around the planet, but be able to see past the end of your own nose to understand the gravity of those problems. So the main problem is that people who have the money usually have either a very long nose, or very bad eyesight, or both.
So a group of companies that doesn’t have reusable rockets 🚀♻️ is going to clean up space, it kinda reminds me of people who wants to burn fossil fuel so that they can capture carbon and store it.
RECYCLE THE SATELLITES IN SPACE.
Russia and America should be taking the lead here, as they have been the most prolific in launches.
America already requires all its LEO sats to be deorbited within 5 years of end of life.
No doubt the west would also get technology insight of eastern satellites and how accurate the intelligence data is 😅
nice animation eh just burns up ... gone eh
kessler syndrom is a very low risk at the moment and not something you should be fear mongering over.
A VERY powerful electro magnet can potentially stop an out of control de-orbiting space structure. Forces contrary to the spiraling can reign in the structure back into a controlled de-orbiting. This, imho, is brilliant!