New York Dumped More Than 2,500 Subway Cars Into the Ocean Then This Happens 20 Years Later
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They could not of recycled all that metal?
There not that intelligent
I agree since wouldn’t the metal will eventually deteriorate in the ocean…if those which is not very healthy long term?
They did. They are an artificial reef at low cost.
Tons of sea life are dependent on our vanishing coral reefs.
The order is reduce, reuse, recycle. If you can reuse what others see as waste, why recycle, using up more energy and other materials in the process?
NYC dumped subway cars into the ocean and this happened: 1. Homeless people sleeping in the ocean. 2. More fish performing in subway cars for donations.3. Crime is up. 4. Subway reefs are never on time. 5. No fish understands the MTA Train engineer on the load speaker. Reef platform is very dirty. 6. The last subway car is empty and stinks. 7. Fish at the subway reef stopped paying the fare. 8. Air conditioning is broken. 9. More fish are being pushed into the tracks at night. 10. MTA announced a fare increase before year’s end.
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I hear that grouper on grouper violence went up
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This shit is HILARIOUS!!! Thanks I needed a good laugh. I live in NYC 😂
Hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣LOL
Imagine you die on a subway car and haunt it then one day you’re a ghost underwater
Movies have been made on less of an idea. Good idea!
That sounds like a wacky comedy or a depressing tragedy
Sounds like ghost😂 under water, get off my train😂
Wouldn't the ghost dround
i am unda dee wada. pleas help mea
aren't we starting to have problems with too much heavy metals in the water?
Iron and steel are not "heavy" metals, they are non toxic and mostly inert. They will rust but it won't pollute the water as such. Heavy metals refers to things like cadmium, lead, uranium, mercury etc. The poisonous ones!
People in rural areas, like myself drink well water. Some wells have a high content of metals
@@yvonneconte3040 That is from other sources. Even prescription drugs people pee out.
@@randomnutcase8926even copper is a heavy metal.
@@beholdheiscomingonthecloud5526I hope no one's getting the well confused from the toilet...😂. Just kidding. When I was young, we had to water our vegetation with buckets of water. We poured that water out of the bucket from the old well into our buckets.
That's a lot of scrap metal worth a lot of money.
That's your first thought? lol
ikr- people are lazy. They didn't manage cars and then they dump it in the ocean.
They had asbestos, that's why they dumped them in the ocean. They don't dump subway cars in the water no more (NYC subway cars) they went back to scrapping.
Older subway cars that were dumped were made of carbon steel. The metal doesn't hold up well over time and the panel joints began to rust and became brittle. So they had no real scrap value. Dumping them and donating them became the best option. They went through asbestos abatement before being released. Subway cars currently are made of stainless steel and they have better scrap value so they are sold off at the end of life.
yea you really think they would share? Black or poor white folks do not matter! Babies and old people do not matter it's all about the super rich! If they love the good Lord they go missing or die in a strange way called suicide. Robin williams to name one! The wife of the guy lol
Forgot to say me wife
There are people converting busses and shipping containers into housing.
Cool! These are housing to marine life 😊
That a good way to start to move off grid. Someone bought a pretty large shack for 8k set up solar panel system with batteries also with a large water container for water with filtration. 7 chickens 7 rabbits and a garden. That’s what people should start doing.
Now you’re talking. That’s roof over somebody’s head….x 2500
Yeah, that's been a thing for like.. 20 years now. It's just more common now that everything costs 10 times what it's worth. XD
Land, land is the issue. Where do you think they’re going to put them?
Thats a lot metal money
sure is
@1:10 usually when government tries to play Mother Nature it doesn't end well. But as others have already said I could probably think of a thousand other things that those subway cars could have built and been more beneficial to society as a whole.
No you can't
@@Sacred_Silence melted down for the raw metal and recycled to make new cars or ANY of the other THOUSANDS of things reprocessed metal can be utilized for???????? You should have stayed sacredly silent.
You are one sweet person for sure God bless you and yours, The wife
waste disposal is not environmental restoration -- its waste disposal.
Yes one smart person is always in the crowd, much love and peace out
forgot to add the wife
People have a business/industry salvaging these freight accidents to scrap
do you think anybody cares who runs it all? Don't fool yourself! They never did and they sure don't now. God bless you! much love and peace out! The wife
Helping the ocean recover sounds good . The paper work to make them into reefs is probably way easier than making them into housing for the homeless were everyone wants credit no matter how long people have to wait.
dude no one understands what you said
@@billhartman5120 really? Thought it was easy to get lol
My God man or women or both open your eyes and see the beast at work! The wife
any city that NEEDS a subway is too big for me! we aren't supposed to be stacked on top of each other like that. bruh! hope ya hit a milli!
There are really small cities with subways too. Lausanne in Switzerland has only 146k inhabitants. Rennes in France has about 200k. There's also a mountain village in Austria called Serfaus (pop. 1k), where they got sick of tourist traffic during ski season so they built a 4 stop subway line that is free to use and pedestrianised the village.
@@lazrseagull54 cool. thank you for your input, it was informative!
I dunno about subways, but a town near me has a huge parking lot that they bus in tourists from'
free to the user.
traffic would be at a complete standstill otherwise
@@davidconner-shover51 hmmm, interesting. thanks for the input.
you need to see all the underground tunnels something living down there...the wife
The ship I was attached to in the Navy reserves became an artificial reef near Hawaii when it was decommissioned. The USS Harold E. Holt FF-1074.
more sad stuff ! more will be thrown into the sea most likely are heads and feet! OH! didn't they already, find feet with shoes still on them? yes i believe they did! the wife
My father used to repair subway trains. I still use old parts, screws, bolts, hose clamps, (you name it) to repair my tractor and I give parts to other farmers. Those old R-46 trains worked better than the cars they’re manufacturing NOW. A lot of that scrap had a lot of value.
Yup, Chinese made crap, at least the new ones in Massachusetts. Got them eight years ago, took them that long to change the gauge on them.
oh man you know it all that waste in the bottom of the ocean, sad stuff there! the wife
When metal dissolves in whater, planktons are eating those tiny things and then bigger fish eats them and then humans its fish with metal particles, and slowly we destroy our bodies with bad food because of ocean-poisoned fish :(
Steel isn't a heavy metal.
How do you accidentally misspell Water
yes
I love you channel!! Have you ever seen the videos on Tiny Homes? People get very creative building their home this way and I can see where these could be so useful for our homeless Americans and Veterans. I understand.... they may be good being used as artificial reefs, but wouldn't they be serving a better purpose as a home for our fellow Americans? Thanks for all you do!!
thank u
The structure provided from the coral build up should sustain itself by the time the metal erodes.
Is Guga moonlighting as a narrator 😂
Or the metal could've been recycled to make other subway cars and other things made of metal.
But yeah, making them into mobile home-like shelters is also a great idea.
you very kind and sweet much love and peace out The wife
I live in a moble home the Sub way cars look like the size of my single wide Tayler
Single Wide Tayler sounds like a dope name for a country singer 😂
yes a big single wide would of been soooo nice to live in...the wife
Those carts could have made some dope housing.
They aren't carts.
Where would they put them? Nah
@@technicaldifficulties368 Trippin! You know how big NY is?
There's plenty of open space there in the state of NY or in any other state.
@@cp368productions2 those arnt rail carts?cars....uhh....Ayy..ima chin check spell check
They made dope marine life housing instead 🙂
We should definitely reuse them as housing.GREAT IDEA BRO!
Nothing lasts forever in the ocean but steel would last longer than most things, especially if it is stainless or high carbon.
Sheet metal structure maybe; but the epic waste of iron in the subframe and wheels is off the chart.
could have been melted down and used to make new cars but no, we have to tailor towards seeming like we are doing a good thing when it's just lazy ass business men not wanting to deal with the logistics.
So refreshing to have some good news in a world crawling with bad news. Good job, bro!
Standard shipping containers are much better suited for housing. Easier to convert, to connect (being roughly square and made to be stacked on container ships), and easier to transport to wherever housing is needed (trailers are easily available).
I mean the homeless already live on public transit. Why not give them their own somewhere far away from public transportation hotspots. Give them solar panels for phone and light charging. No AC wall power for TVs to prevent encouraging TV theft
yea no money no place to live off with their heads! just saying whee need some air, the wife my rant!
How many cars do you want on your property? Oh, what’s that YOU say, NOT ON MY PROPERTY ON OTHER PERSONS PROPERTY.
I remember hearing about a little bit because of Ghostbusters 2 Ray mentions the early Pneumatic Transit. Which you can look at the info about the Beach Pneumatic Transit.
sounds a little pucky?
My man I can assure you that retrofitting these cars for housing (insulation, water, electricity,..) would be many times more expensive than just to build a wooden house. We have to learn to do the first thing efficiently and already know how to build cheap houses.
the structure is already done and will outlast wood.. the rest you mention needs done regardless of structural materials used..
@@SegoMan Okay, here is a couple of things to think about.
1. You are confined to the space you have. So all the appliances, all the furniture, all the standard sized materials you are bringing into the car have to be custom made or will need work-arounds.
2. The car is metal. Which means that winter proofing is a BIG issue. This is going to eat into your inside space. I'm assuming you do not want to insulate from the outside bc then you might as well make a structure from scratch.
3. You will need skilled metal workers and welders. Those ppl are expensive.
4. Just making sure the thing you end up with is according to code will be a nightmare.
That is just of the top of my head. No chance a conversion like this will be more cost effective than building a conventional house. Just not gonna happen. Talk to some guys that tried to build homes out of shipping containers. It's a waste of time and resources.
@@kodek1234
Y/t keeps deleting my comments I guess you win by default and the planet looses.....
not a bad Idea given that some homeless already sleep on the train. but I do think if they're decommissioning them they're not suitable to live in.
Before watching I'm guessing some sort of reef formed. I hope I'm right.
why do you hope your right? It's still a waste and pollution and more garbage we don't need! It is a crime on mother earth once again my friend the wife
They should have coordinated with Brandon and his railway across the Pacific.
you never know? Who is BRANDON? the wife
This could have been turned into make shift APARTMENTS for HOMELESS PEOPLE.
nice work . thank you .
I like that idea of housing homeless in the old rail cars, busses, school busses, airliners, and things. I guess then the problem becomes the availability of land near these cities. Its still going to take alot of money as well.
I know that in the Seattle area we have 100s of empty steel shipping containers that came in from China but we don't ship out even half the amount that comes in so the containers are stacked in lots or on floating barges. It would be easy to turn them into housing units.
The New York Subway was not opened only on 1904 the first Subway system actually opened in 1844 Atlantic avenue subway tunnel Everybody keeps saying oh the subway started in 1904 or 1960 and that's wrong it was 1844 That's when the first Subway system opened up
The first Ship that my son was on thay sunk it at sea
That's a good idea to repurpose the cars for the homeless. I have also thought of damaged shipping containers for this. Once the container is slightly tweaked or slightly dented they can't be used to ship items and could also be used to help house the homeless.
Well said MrLboyd🫵💯👍👏👏❤️
No. They don't hold heat and have to be heated and cooled. They would also have to be placed on land, which New York does not have. They should have been recycled and put back into the manufacturing industry.
New York has uninhabited islands, the islands that were supposed to be used as part of our immigration system as quarantine and other purposes like research. There isn't any heating or cooling out on the streets unless you are in the subway system. Im sure people would be happy with just a shelter. Maybe they could house the immigrants in the subway cars and put the NY homeless up in the hotels.
Great intuitive video bro but they did get the dates wrong on when was the first Subway or tube railway in the world was in London as far as Wikipedia says. Keep up the good work buddy 👍🏽
You can have homes or rooms made out of steel its temperature sensitive. When it's cool out it's to cold inside. Too hot outside it's too hot inside. There's a reason why homes aren't build out of metal.
Omg. Ty never knew..
There are several problems with turning these into housing for the homeless.
1. where to put them: land is expensive in areas where there are services for homeless people and middle of nowhere has no resources to take care of them
2. utilities: There is no way to add plumbing, kitchen equipment or sufficient heating/cooling to these.
3. behavior: Let's face it, there is a strong correlation between homeless and crime/drugs/mental illness. Most homeless colonies aren't safe to live in.
The one’s with the boots on our throats are the biggest polluters
So sad 😢
Why sad to create new marine life ?
What is sad?
Have a look at what happened when they dumped a heap of old tires around 2 Million off the coast of America for the same reason & it didn't end well
The dimensions are similar to mobile homes. 1 car could hold 2 bathrooms a community bunk room and a decent kitchen
The gutted ships are ideal for artificial reefs due to the sheer weight and thick layers of steel that will last hundreds of years from now, enough time for a natural reef to grow in the location
littering a wrapper for an individual: $1000.00 fine.
when the government litters:
With the proper design these subway cars could have been repurposed into something that resembles a mobile home. The glass could be left in the cars and only removing the trucks from under the cars and the air lines and electrical. I think an entrepreneur could turn them into a nice mobile home or holiday trailer. Only the land is needed to a small neighbourhood could have been built. The reef is good too but maybe start with half.
You had a great idea, fir housing, the artificial reef is pretty cool. Also why aren't they scrapping the metal? Definitely should divide into all.. decades from now i hope it isn't regretted of doing this artificial reefs
Only issue in New York for using them as housing, is "where"? Not exactly a lot of open places to put a couple of thousand of those.
That what the navy do when they decomision vessels, they sink them to help the coral. Before they do that, they have to strip them from roxic materials.
I heard years ago that they have a sewer pipe 25 miles out into the ocean. Today it's a mountain.
Did it in San Fran too years ago.
The problem with steel structures is , they get extremely hot in the summer and extremely cold in the winter , I believe they could be used but not for housing
They absolutely could be used for housing. People already use shipping containers and turn them into tiny homes.
Search for an article titled
8 Ideas for Old Subway Cars: Proposals to Repurpose Retired BART Trains
Way to logical it will never work unless the big guy gets his 10% of coarse..
so, New York get to tout how environmentally friendly they are by creating artificial reefs and at the same tome get to spent more money on NEW subway cars and driving the price of said cars higher by NOT recycling the steel, aluminum, magnesium.
Its much easier and cheaper to just build a tiny house that can be insulated plumbed electrified than convert a rail car, and the big problem with homeless housing is Where to put it. You want to build a giant slum in your neighborhood?
You could rennovate an existing slum , and have roads ,sewers etc already in place.
"Lets stick all these bums in boxes" fixes nothing.
They dumped all that garbage in the ocean and make it look like it's good for the environment, making artificial reefs. They should of recycled all that metal but I guess it was to expensive. They just dumped all that garbage in the ocean. The idea you said about making homes with the old trains it's a good idea.
1:19 great did you double check the science behind that
I understand the use of boats and stuff like that for artificial reefs but at the same time those things could easily be recycled into the next train cars and ships instead of having to dig holes in the earth 3 - 5 miles deep to recover the same materials that they are going to needed
And that is Exactly why it’s always something wrong with the water systems all over the U.S. the Copper the LEAD
They are worth more money in scrap, but they are a great medium for reefs and future food source
Many many years from people will look at these ancient subway cars like the titanic and James Cameron son will make an epic movie about it and Leonardo DiCaprio son will star in it and become famous and Celine Dion daughter will have an epic soundtrack to the movie.
I wonder how many people realize that these reefs disrupt other things, like fisheries, which existed long before the need for new "reefs". Wow, the picture of the car at 4:53 has an invasive species front and center.
Penny wise and pound foolish. These should have been used for OUR #1 priority, people. America last (even the fish out rank us in our polition's eyes).
Good idea to make T-R-A-C-K homes out of old subway cars .😊
Did video say "tires"? I believe they found out that heavily pollutes the water.
Better than the idea that used millions of tires.
You can't just build housing, the cost of foundations, water, electric, waste, maintenance, security makes it unsustainable. And the bad behavior doesn't change.
And Congress. Blames the Earth on the people.😮
I was thinking why didn’t they dismantle them and sell the scrap metal? Ridiculous.
Yeah upstate New York or some state in the USA that is not so populated. Canada with its northern territories has lots of places that the homeless could live if we could get trains up there, provide electricity, food, water and internet.
They could also sell them to Hong Kong for the poor who are literally living in cages!!😢😢
A great way to build an eco-system
Future reefs for divers and coral.?
MTA should have recycled the metal and utilized it, in it production to New trains.
Or sell off the metal scaps and utilize the sale of the scrap onto the bill of the New train cars.
Reducing the transportation fare price on the pockets of Newyorkers.
What a horrible idea dumping these into the ocean. I like your idea way better. Make them into homes for people. I like it.
A few reefs will not replace the ones that are destroyed constantly. Could have recycled the metal for something else. But, then again. I guess it would have be sold for pennies to the other country to sell back to us for 100 times the price.
You are right homes for homeless people is a good idea 😀💡
There's so much stuff we can use for housing, that's not the issue. Just think shipping containers etc. The problem is where to put all these housing projects. Most land is owned by either private owners or the state and I've yet to see someone invite a bunch of strangers in subway cars to come live on their property. Also, we as humans have destroyed so much of the worlds ecosystem, it's about time we at least try to give something back lol.
When government does this it’s great, meanwhile farmers fertilizing their fields is bad.
“Chain them up & dump them off the ship.” - Kunta ‘Toby’ Kinte.
Each one of those could be someone’s tiny house. People already use shipping containers and turn them into a tiny house. It’s absolutely disgusting that they keep polluting our oceans, but wouldn’t shut up about climate change
Before I watched this when I saw the thumbnail i new it was a great idea there going to be ecosystems and we need coral reefs
Coral reefs were i huge problem when we attached Japan because of just that
This could become city apartments you could stack them ect
Yea, I agree. These subway cars could have been converted into shelter for homeless.
Got a better idea? We hustle and bustle to go to space, but slow to the point of ignoring what to do with retired subway trains! Did we find this metal in the Ocean to begin only to 😢dump it in water. What about the futuristic retired subway trains where are they going to put them? This is a serious topic thanks for the info.
Humans cannot replace Mother Nature.
They would be a death trap in the event of a fire and you would have to find land to put them on.
I think the reef idea is best.
Gee - you better tell the millions of commuters that use them to stay away, then.
@@Jonas-lj8ul Maybe a few years ago but now there are no longer millions commuting and thats why they are discarding the subway cars..
Then 250 years later, they are found by archeologists and the History channel talks about lost civilizations.
But will our fancy "Brita" home water filters handle subway cars ???
Would not be suitable as housing because you would still need land to put them on. Something New York City doesn’t have in abundance.
Should probably just not have a city like New York if you’re not going to have politicians that know how to actually govern. That’s New Yorks issue, they have plenty of money, they just spend it in dumb ass ways
sorry to say even if that was a thing, its new york city. they would still charge the same rate a single bedroom apartment. nothing would change
I just got an idea of how NYC can take care of the deportation problem with all those violent gang members that have been sneaking in getting arrested and just set free again. (subway cars, bottom of the ocean, hmm?)
Can't be use as housing, the amount of windous make it flemsy and are to narow. A container is more suitable as a home.