Dabo Swinney Rethinks Approach At Clemson - Josh Pate Cut
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- Опубліковано 15 січ 2025
- Dabo Swinney and Clemson find themselves on the new horizon of College Football. With his new hires and Portal moves could we be seeing a rethinking of strategy at Clemson? On Josh Pate's College Football Show Ep 601 Josh Pate broke down the move to hire Tom Allen as DC and also the decision to delve into the Transfer Portal for several additions. Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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Coach Swinney is such a class act! I know he will a successful season in 2025.
Clemson hasn't needed portal kids because players don't leave Clemson the way other programs have them leave. It's simple math. Clemson had some available scholarships this season and Dabo filled those with three guys from the portal. It's like the obvious gets overlooked to fit the narrative. And Clemson just won another ACC Championship without the portal... against other programs that were filled with them.
Dawg you can’t say players don’t leave Clemson when we have like 7 decommits this season. This was a needed change and kinda overdue tbh
None of those really mattered though.
Those de commitment's opened up some space to use in the portal
@@Trey_Alexandernone at all it was players who knew they weren’t going to start
@@markhawkinson2737 oh yea Dabo lost 7 and got 3 more one Linebacker Jermiah alexander , Defensive end/ tight end weld heldt, last but not least a 6’5 Wide receiver Tristan smith
There has got to be a limit on the amount of portal entries a player can make during his college career. if not, I fear that the sport of college football that we all love will be damaged beyond repair.
Is it really some "radical" or "fundamental" change? He fired insiders and Clemson alum and brought in Riley and later Luke. So hiring Allen is hardly radical. He has one of the best player retentions in the P4. And has always said he will fill gaps WHEN he has the need = space. Now that he's allowed up to 105, that task is even easier. He's changing or adapting without a doubt. But this idea he was some resistant dinosaur to outside coaching and to a lesser degree the portal is more a media invention IMHO.
Clemson has the most talented roster in the league, 7 home games again, no bye-week opponents again, no ND, no Miami, no travel even outside of the time zone again (had the fewest travel miles in the sport this season) & consequently both using the portal & hiring Allen will likely be seen as an immediate, tremendous success, & will even be celebrated by Clemson nation without threats to fire him after one season outright. 💯
and will get bounced in the first round
@@GoatedAtNFS Highly unlikely. If they don't make adjustments to the playoff they will not be in 1st round. And even if they are I don't see someone upsetting 2025 Clemson which should be a contender (not the best, but a contender)
@@andrewroof8042 Exactly. I just can't find the losses or any legitimate reasons for them, notably as the non-ACC games essentially don't count for Clemson controlling its own destiny to the playoff outright. For better or worse, this hire & the portal use will be seen as a boon for Clemson outright.
@@andrewroof8042 and what makes you so sure they win the conference? heck SMU basically beat Clemson, they just lost to the best high school kicker ever. Georgia Tech, Louisville, let’s see what Boston College and UNC does, but the conference is very top heavy. you can have the most talent on the roster and still lose. ask Alabama-#1 composite roster and 9-3
@@GoatedAtNFS SMU basically beat clemson? They lost...comebacks that fall short do not count. And SMU came back due to Wes goodwin being a fool of a DC...oh look he was fired...i wonder why
UNC, and BC are not a threat (good but no threat)
GT, and Miami (yes they can challenge) but this is why I also made comment that even if Clemson plays first round they are likely to win. Clemson next year based on this year and what is coming in should be the lead favorite and that is all we can talk right now is favorites.
None sense. Chad Morris, Brent Venables and Garrett Riley were all outside hires
Matt Luke and Chris Rump were too!
@ everyone likes to hate on our Tigers! lol
None sense!!!
Also he clearly states after Brent venables but Clemson is 🌈
Get a clue. Dabo shunned outside hires for years until last year with Luke. Dabo's stubbornness and arrogance was wrecking the program he built..
As a Clemson fan I’ve been frustrated by the last few years until this one. We took several steps forward, and Swinney has started doing what all us fans were crying for. Use the portal to supplement talent but not overhaul talent, and get new ideas from the outside. I’m a big fan of what he’s been doing these past two offseason. I’d argue the changes started last year when he hired a new Defensive and Offensive line coach.
I despise Clemson fans who think they're smarter than Coach Swinney. If you were frustrated by "the last few years", then what were you between 1990 and 2009 - Apoplectic?
Y'all didn't play nobody and basically luck your was in not a acc championship and playoff bid 😂
@@marleybarz1645what? Trying to read this gave me a stroke
@@marleybarz1645 Try writing in English son
@marleybarz1645 we won the games that got us in and Miami lost... cut and dry. We scored more points than smu...cut and dry. You're Just hating
Josh, the way U phrased things, seems you forgot about GARRETT RILEY(OC 2023), MATT LUKE (OL 2023), and CHRIS RUMPH (DE 2023). I like you, but very surprised you felt you had to frame it like that. Oh, well. GO TIGERS '25.
These guys get paid to stir up the hornet nest. I agree with you, but Riley was the 22 offseason. If you’re going use date of hire, Luke & Rumph would be 24 & Allen would be 25.
Going outside to get an OC wasn't "fundamental change"? How about last year going outside to get two great position coaches in Rumph and Luke? Dabo makes choices for his team. Sometimes they work out. Sometimes they don't. He's got more national championships in the last ten years than all but a couple of teams out there, and since 2011, he's won at least 10 games except for 2019 where he only won 9. The talking heads always make the conversation sound like if every decision a head coach makes isn't perfect, they aren't a good coach. I guess nitpicking his every decision gives sports talk guys something to talk about.
You're saying he's inaccurate to say hiring Allen & using the portal is a good thing for Clemson?
Why, though? Sincere question.
and didn't Swinney go and find Venables at Oklahoma in 2012. So going outside isn't anything new or groundbreaking. But let the heads talk, that's what they do
Exactly. I manage a team of 7 people and hired most of them. Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't with hiring. Nothing unique about this, it is literally a normal process anyone in a leadership process goes through.
@@davejackson1970 Exactly. Yes Dabo made some internal hires but he realized it wasn't working and quickly made changes. I always think it is better to stay in house if you have faith in someone. The key is to move on when things go south
@@andrewroof8042he also had huge success promoting from within. He’s tried everything, these narratives are ridiculous
special season loading----- Clemson will win kickoff against LSU, will win the ACC, Will make the CFP semifinals and end up a top-4 team in the country come seasons end, stay tuned folks!!
Undefeated next year
Sounds like a Great Cartoon 🤣
Stay Tuned Folks 😊
Clemy still wanton out of the ACC???
If they had of gotten out it would have been more like…
That’s All Folks 🤣🤣🤣
That was real talk on the death valley commentary. LSU acknowledged ours (Clemson's) came first (via an AD of theirs at some point) and is therefore the real one. But no matter what side of the fence you are on for that topic, it will be way too present in the broadcast.
You know, a month later from now ever calendar year, Mobile, Alabama starts huffing and puffing about how they’re the home of Mardi Gras because it happened there first. But then every year, the amount of people that travel on down to see the sights of Carnival New Orleans streets shuts them up. There are parallels to Columbia, SC, and Mobile, AL to New Orleans and Bagon Rouge, LA, respectively.
@@CB-ny8zg
Clemson's stadium is in fact in a valley, not a swamp. Been called death valley since the 1940s. LSU was "deaf valley" but the fans are too dumb to get it right.
It’s clemPson sir. Love the videos
I don't think this is a fundamental change for Dabo in coaching hiring. Dabo has only promoted 2.5 coordinators from within (Elliot/Scott, Elliott, and Goodwin) during Dabo's tenure there. He has hired many, many more coaches from outside the program than that. And you could cay the Elliott/Scott combo was a spectacular success as they coached 2 national championship winning offenses, and 2 more that made the playoffs. So 1/3 on the promoting from within (Elliott alone never had the same success after Scott left, and Scott flubbed at USF). So you could even say 1/2 if you wanted to stretch it.
All this is to say, Dabo has looked within more than once to see if anyone deserves a shot, but decided it wouldn't be the right call this time. This is not a fundamental change. The portal grabs ARE a fundamental change. It is the first time he has gotten someone from the portal that he didn't already recruit out of high school or was a former Clemson player.
He only hired Scott & Elliott after they worked on the staff for several years with Chad Morris. People talking about Dabo "hiring from within" are FOS.
I agree, but you forgot Brandon Streeter
His bosses told him get with the program or retire.
Josh needs to check his history on Dabo Swinney. Dabo has made several outside coordinator hires throughout his tenure and he’s proven the ability to make a change when needed. Josh is so freaking smug when it comes to Clemson I can’t stand it.
Finally, with clemson still having a team ranked in the top 5 in the talent composite ranking, it's no excuse for clemson to be losing that many games the last 4 years!!!
When your QB is the worst player on the team, the rest of the team's talent is far less impactful. Grow up.
Now, what were those Big Ten people saying about Southern schools having no money?
COMMON, WHO DIDN'T SEE THIS COMING ?
Dabo brought in 2 blood on the o side of the ball 2 years ago and Goodwin was doing well at the time. WTH are you talking about.
Portal and NIL makes average teams and coaches look better but it’s lightning in a bottle ie LSU winning a Natty out of nowhere and then dropping off cliff next year. Dani’s resistance or whatever you call it is based on knowing I’m looking for a quick fix every year. It’s about developing to a run every 3-4 years
“Out of nowhere” they started the season top 10 returning a ton of starters, including a senior QB, and a NY6 bowl game win. That’s not “out of nowhere.”
Tom Alan left because his family is from that area and he's at the point in his career where a job is a job. As a Penn State fan I was not really impressed with him… The defense this year was so stacked that a high school defensive coordinator probably could've made them still look good.
Agreed.. I loved Manny Diaz with the blitz strategy. Out defense plans looked bland but with several NFL picks.
By the way it's Clempson, not Clemzon.
@@Jeff-ef1xj Clem-son
Josh statement is wildly inaccurate! “No portal” and pretty sure he hired outside before 3 times before.
It’s about time Dabs started playing the Head Coach Role Again 🙄
News Flash:
He’s Not Going Anywhere Without The Portal!!!
Newspaper Headlines:
Clemy Head Coach Dabs Has Let His Hard Head Destroy The Clemy Football Program!!!😊
I do wish people would learn to say Clem-son instead of Clem-zon!!!
That tattoo remark about Dabo is like a tramp getting a tramp stamp saying she's not a tramp. It makes no sense.
Dabo wasn't a tramp, but he wasn't willing to deal with the reality of the kaos of today's NCAA football.
I think the NCAA likes the kaos so they can ride to the rescue and "save" cfb. And of course keep their power and millions coming uninterrupted.
Clemsons defense will be wrecking shop in the ACC and it will start in 2025
CLEM SON, not CLEMZON, NOT CLEMPSON, CLEM SON, CLEMSON
Can you like, not?
Making changes just to make changes portends outcomes that could be even worse for Clemson......
The real Death Valley is the stadium the Tigers play in and is one of the top 15 stadiums in the country by seating capacity.
Who is this ?
You're just wrong dude.
As a Penn state fan I’m thrilled to see Allen’s bum ass go. Nobody could have done less with what they had. Giving up points like nothing only to make adjustments and start playing the way you should have from the beginning somehow earns him praise. Happy he’s gone. However as a Clemson fan I’m devastated. Hopefully he isn’t a massive fraud with an ACC schedule.
😂😂😂😂
The ACC is a tough conference. Don't listen to ESPN. 13 bowl teams. Yeah, a lot of losses, but a lot of opt-outs as well.
@@leeption1able Perhaps, but now Allen is going to Clemson with the most talented roster in the league, 7 home games again, no bye-week opponents again, no ND, no Miami, no travel even outside of the time zone again (they had the fewest travel miles in the sport this season) & will consequently likely be seen as an immediate, tremendous success.
Then why are you butt 🤕 if you are happy he is gone?
@@leeption1able No reason to even mention the bowl losses. ESPN is acting like bowl results still matter. The teams that play in 90% of bowl games are not the same team that played regular season. It basically turns in to a scrimage to determine next years starters and who else will transfer
Clemson with a weak ass acc schedule the second year in a row in go figure lol
@@marleybarz1645 who had a strong schedule in any other conference? All were weak
Who you say had a strong schedule?
Little bit late to the Party there Dabs 🤣🤣🤣
Clemy will only make the playoffs if they Win the Weak Conference they Play In!!!
As far Down as He has let them Fall BEFORE Making Much Needed Changes…
Dabs is just Late to the Party 😊
Wasn’t that a 27th place Recruiting Ranking Class i just Saw 😳🙈🤔
Sorry Clemy Fans!!!
Well…
Not Really 🤔😊🤣
3 portal players. LOL
Puts us at -4, which if you don’t know is #1 in the country for retention.
@@mbailey1023
Ain’t gonna help Your Team Win when other Teams are Gettin Better Talent Through this Portal Than Clemy is Retaining 🙄🙈🤣🤣🤣
Clemson propaganda