There are some that are making negative comments .The purpose of this was to show how the proses works without having to take the EGR valve out, and was taken out as an observation.I have a vehicle that requires the engine to be taken out to change the EGR valve so for me this video proved invaluable thanks for posting
I tried using Wynn's EGR cleaner. The add to fuel type and forget about. Next week I took my EGR off the car took it in my kitchen to clean properly using "elbow grease" from pound world (I've used every degreaser on the planet and this is the best). Anyway the EGR was a solid lump of sticky carbon inside. No way could the valve open or close.. Soaked it in elbow grease for half hour. Boiled kettle and poured it over. Result nice and clean. Valve moves nice and freely now..I've blanked the EGR now. 20% better fuel efficiency..the brim it drive for 400 miles and brim it again test..4 times I've done that now..amazed at the results. Engines like clean cool air not dirty warm air. .
I was contemplating these products but decided to have a go at cleaning the EGR on my 100K 2.0d X-Type myself. I sort of thought that if I struggled getting it off I could tighten everything back up and use the spray anyway. With some excellent, easy to find help on some of the Jag forums I found the valve much easier to remove than I expected using just a 1/4" ratchet with long & short extensions and 8/10mm sockets. The condition of the valve convinced me that manual cleaning (half an hour with a couple of litres of paraffin, some non-metallic scourers and a pound store washing up brush) was the only way to go. There is no solvent I know (certainly none that I'm prepared to unleash indiscriminately) which could have shifted the gunge and tar. Even if it did I cannot conceive of it passing harmlessly through the engine, turbo, cat and exhaust. The opening to the inlet manifold was also similarly treated. Total time two hours. Would have been less if I'd remembered to refit the bl@@dy EGR inlet gasket. In fact the job was so easy (plenty of PVC gloves needed though) that I decided against tinkering with the EGR system. I'll just repeat the process as and when necessary. Can't be bothered with engine management warnings and the like. I may consider using a spray to maintain the condition of the valve but I doubt it. They may have their place but I really would not feel comfortable relying on something which just moves the muck further along the system. Incidentally the cleanup completely cured my rough idle. Improved bottom end torque and made the driving experience much more pleasurable. No more Hail Marys prior to entering a busy roundabout with a full load.
Does your car live on one of the islands that does not have either an MOT test station or a fixed link to one that does ? Because if it does not a lit engine warning light is a problem. But you may have found that out by now.
My own car is a 16 year old Mercedes with a mileage of 170000 miles. I had been having a similar problem with no power so decided to buy a similar kit her in the Shetland Islands in the UK. Even though I used only half a can of aerosol I have had no more problems, back on full power once again. Many thanks for uploading this video.
A great, helpful video. You can certainly see the difference. I will try this twice before stripping down and cleaning the EGR valves…. Thanks for the video.
But it helps to the normal person without opening that because when egr valve stuck and become hard at that time its helpful .. mechanic knows very well where and how it is beneficial without other efforts
Many of you people are so deft. This guy went to a lot of trouble to show what happens when you use the products. Duh, that is why he did not clean it when it was off.. Make your own choices and keep your whining to yourself.
He removed the EGR to demonstrate the effectiveness of this product (if you can remove it then obviously soak it and scrub it clean). My EGR is a big job to get to it, some are very easily accessible. I used this method and cleared EGR fault. Cost me £20 and worked. Fixed for ever? No, but might see me through until I scrap my van. If you’re driving a motor with a lot of life left, do it properly, this will buy you a bit of time before it clogs up again, that’s it.
You know nothing clearly. This is to also clean the INTAKE PASSAGES so you don’t have to disassemble the intake as well. It’s not just to clean the valve.
I think most people in the comment section has missed the point of this video. It's a demonstration for how to use the cleaning kit, and a look at how effective it is..
Of course its better to take off the egr and clean it..... but for those people who are unable to do it then this is the next best thing! Also there's no harm in doing this every so often as MAINTENANCE and PREVENTATIVE matter
People are saying it doesnt work but its plain obvious it removed enough crap to make a difference. not as good as cleaning it yourself but it worked nevertheless.
Vauxhall charged me 132 pounds to replace my EGR valve some years back in my Corsa.1.4,two years later management light came on again,Vauxhall said it needed a new EGR valve again!!,I sprayed a tin of valve cleaner in the air filter box,management light went out,and it ran perfect next three years!!!
blade0954 You're lucky. I took mine to Vauxhall Zafira initially and they told me the whole engine needed replacing. After telling them what I thought of that idea I later found out it was just the egr valve.
Sure it isn't as efficient as a wall nut cleaning but...probably the best review of the product. Quick review, efficient and well explained. I still believe Revive can be better, but I can't find any about it... Anyone ??
Just take the egr valve out then spray it with throttle body cleaner. Reassemble. No Reving needed no additive needed. Also use 50mls per tank of 2 stroke oil Low ash. You'll be amazed at the difference.
you already had the egr removed why don`t you just clean it with a brush and throttle body spray ? it would be cheaper and the egr will be much cleaner than that spray crap , just a waste of time and money.
It's an obvious observation;the point of the video is a review on the product used to clean the egr. I would never buy an egr cleaner,I'd rather clean it the way you stated though.
+Hm HM (Mr.H) The removal of the EGR valve was done simply to show before and after. This is for those who have EGR valves located in horribly impractical places, where taking it off is too hard without removing a large amount of the contents in the engine room.
introducing all that "cleaner" into the engine will do damage by wiping the bearing surfaces. The part can be bought fairly cheaply. If you are going to the trouble of removing it either replace it or at least clean it manually.
@@jameslatimer1432 Some engines have a long pipe that goes inside the manifold. How do you clean that by reeving up the engine? I tell you, I just cleaned the EGR about 4 months ago by taking the EGR apart and cleaning up but I didn't cleaned the pipe so now I have the check engine light on again.
to avoid destroying ur air flow sensor , and having no engin check light on juste run a little hose inside your air flow sensor to sray behind the sensor and still have the air flow getting into it
Bent two piston rods with a similar spray. Manual clean is the only safe and working method. Don't be lazy, or you'll redo your engine, like me. Diesel engines have too high compression to manage with this sollutions. The explosions will do some damage, noticeable or not.
@@bookshulitza Nowadays there is a concept ongoing called decarbonisation , can we opt for that , they inject some liquid through a machine through air intake and revv the engine ua-cam.com/video/bByzIUFt8nA/v-deo.html
Dont know why everyone is butthurt.... hes making a baseline on before and after! and to the dippy that said to clean the EGR with petrol Tut tut clearly never seen what happens to early det lol. these methods are the best. our TDDI 1.8 van 62,000 miles just had a full service due to no service for 20,000 miles! limp mode & leak off tc put in similar stuff right after the service "Nearly empty tank", drove around til 50miles marker than refuled as soon as we refuel and allowed all the soak"engine off time" we gave it a little for 20min and now all faults are gone plus its running sweet again.
The EGR it route from the exhaust manifold, how is work when those spray mist burned before it exit to the exhaust and partially, minimal, recycle back (burned product) to the EGR ?
@@metzmatu8409 I don't use the product shown in the video because I can't find it in Australia. I use the technique shown. After watching other videos, the product I use are Oven Cleaner and Water. Same technique as in the video shown, warm the engine then squirt oven cleaner at a rate of a second a squirt until spray can is empty. Turn off engine for an hour to let oven cleaner do it's job. Turn engine on until to operating temperature, squirt water in slowly about 500mL was enough for my car. The water mist works as water get in there it will generate steam and the steam action clean out the carbon build up. I did that procedure twice although it was 2 months apart. Now, after 5 months, my VW Golf 2005 is revving nicely and no longer in "limp" mode.
Constantino BellaRomano an even worse idea at any rate. A/F ratios depend on the post cat data in junction with either a mass air flow or MAP sensor data. It will not make accurate adjustments if you remove the cat.
OK, You have shown us not to bother with it. Thank You. Worse case I would clean them is a can of Petrol if I had nothing else. Or looked on here to see how to clean them properly
So the EGR is clogged with carbon and these spray cleaners are meant to wash the carbon deposits away which will end up in the Cat and likely damaging it. I need to clean out the EGR on a VW CFWA engine but will be removing it to clean it out. Restricted gas flow because the EGR is clogged has lit the Engine Management on the dash.
We all know the best way is to remove it and do it manually, and we really want to remove it but some cars it's not easy to remove the EGR, especially if you are trying to avoid costs by taking it to a dealer. I want to clean for a Range Rover Sport and I wish I could remove it. But I can't, so I'm going the spray route.
Truth of the matter is even If your egr valve is "dirty" but functioning most likely, except for the sake of regular maintenance no need to Clean it. Case in point, i have a 1987 nissan truck with over 200,000 miles on it and since i have owned it for the last 12 years (and since i have owned it the egr valve has never been replaced) it has always pass egr/pcv smog check. Up to this point.
И нахрена так извращаться, если клапан EGR можно почистить вручную? Просто отвёрткой и тряпочкой счистить нагар, потом залить любой жидкостью для очистки карбюратора на несколько минут. В это время трубку от клапана прочистить стальным тросиком, залить на несколько минут жидкость, а потом в трубку просунуть обычную верёвку. На верёвке завязать несколько узелков и подёргать верёвку туда-сюда, чтобы узелки прочистили стенки трубки. Это надёжнее, чем покупать разные дорогие жидкости.
I do 10% regular petrol in diesel tank. 6 liter regular benzin 46 liter diesel.= total 52 feul . I do it when i go for long drive . I do it at least ones a year. It works ! And is cheap.
great video. in cars without maf sensor there are a map sensor to measure the air volume by measuring the air absolute pressure that get in the intake manifold to the engine . thanks .
did a 2.0 Astra pipe totally blocked and valve not seating the car would not rev passed 3000 rpm, stripped out the valve and pipe, one bottle of white spirit sorted the valve cleaned the pipe out and 150 bhp was resumed! cost £1 (for the sprit) about 45minues of time job done, the garage wanted £700!!!!!
Anyone know where the carbon gone 1, it goes to your piston and make a problem and if you get lucky your piston throw it on exhaust valve's and if you get more lucky then it will clog your dpf ,so don't be lazy and take it out and clean it with love .lol
as indicated by everyone else: Cleaning that way just wasted lots of time and money. Remove the valve and perform manual cleaning. Replace valve if not longer working
I don't believe that is effettive to clean the EGR valve because the exhaust gases comes from the exhaust pipe side and those are the responsible of the dirty in the EGR and not from air intake!
Think about it logically. The aerosol will got through the turbo, but the fuel additive will clean nothing more than the fuel lines & injectors. If it’s solvent based (they mostly are) it’ll get vaporised in the combustion of the engine
Place your valve into a 2L vat of gasoline to disolve the gunk built up in and around the valve. Wait for 30-something minutes. Clean the valve with a plastic tip small brush. Brake fluid to completely finish the job and thoroughly clean your EGR valve. That product you're using there is mighty useless. Thank me later.
Why waste money on buying the kit? I remove the EGR by just bu taking out the top mounted intercooler and taking out 4 screws. Takes probably longer time to clean with this kit.
Could have just brushed that off and saved yourself money and time. Also, I'd not recommend this sort of solution as you're artificial increasing the pressures within the engine (revs increasing without acceleration) . I suspect this would have done more damage than good. But hey its a French car it's always going to be crap 😁
Start of the video you mentioned the vehicle is a Peugeot but when u test drive after cleaning the steering wheel seems like a Renault emblem.. hahahaha
Surely all the carbon that's been cleaned off the valve has now been deposited in the exhaust system and caused partial blockage? I have a VW TDI CR engine EGR valve to sort out but I'd rather remove it and manaully clean it out. The downside is its a 2011 Polo TDI and going to be damn fiddly job.
The EGR it route from the exhaust manifold, how is work when those spray mist burned before it exit to the exhaust and partially, minimal, recycle back (burned product) to the EGR ?
Certified 44 yrs here. No engine (as far as a passenger vehicle) should ever be reved past 1800 rpm. Even the 2500 rpm used for state inspections is too high. I would spend 100 dollars on parts for my vehicles before I would rev them that high. The german concept of engineering is to use gearing to make even a 4cyl engine never run at highway speed above 1500 rpm. Here in the US this concept was used from the late 60s through the 70s on American full sized vehicles and overdrive was used in the 80s because the engineering concept is to never go above 1500 rpm. The common motorist is not a race car driver
Earl Guyton Then why do car manufacturers make production engines with redlines as high as 7k-8k RPMS? And then you have sport bike engines that do 2x that.
Earl Guyton what in the hell are you talking about even automatic transmissions shift after 1800rpm. what are you going to do mod your ECU so that your transmission doesn't ever go past 1800 rpm? That makes no sense at all. It would be terribly boring to drive if everybody shifted so quickly and there would be almost no useable power unless you had a high torque motor which most dont. It would take forever to get up to speed. I have no idea why you would say this. Do you seriously shift before 2000 rpm every single time?
Earl Guyton So why does the turbo on my diesel not even kick in until around 1800RPM, you're talking out of your ass. It's not economical to be persistantly driving high up the rev range, but there is no issues driving at 2-3k rpm regularly. Redlining might fuck your engine up after a while but theres no damage caused by revving to 7k before changing up
+Earl Guyton On a healthy and properly maintained modern engine high reving of a warm engine won't cause any wear. Most wear in engines are from cold miles, cold oil lubricates much, much worse. So drive gently until the engine is warm. I have seen a lot of Ferrari's on the dyno (old (cheaper) Ferrari's that get prepared to become a enthousiast track car) and the best ones are the ones that always were driven fast...
Stop talking BS. Running engines that low in the rev range is a great way of building up carbon and have your trim come apart due to engine vibration. there is no way you can drive at highway speeds in that range. most diesels have their optimum operating point between 2.5 and 3k rpm
Do Diesel Egr valves get gummed up more than gasoline? I have a gasoline northstar cadillac that needs an egr cleaning every few years, my 2002 gasoline chevy venture with 140,000 never had anything cleaned, and runs great. My 2014 chevy cruse diesel is unknown with 30,000 miles
Seems like you should have left it off the engine the first time you removed it and just soaked it in the chemical provided and rinsed with the aerosol.
great vid/want to try this on a 307 hdi 110/but will it not fill the dpf with crap causing more headache/ps would a clogged egr cause hesitation to accelerate and lack of turbo.cheers for any help.
If fitted a starting motor to my peugeot 407 hdi 2.0 after doing this the car sound like it has no turbo now and runs very under powered. I thought it may be the air mass meter so I purchased a secondhand one, this didn't sort out the problem. Any advice.
Ok, I'm starting to believe that this engine had 'plenty' of other issues, besides just a clogged EGR valve. Did anyone else notice the fresh oil leaks all over the top side of this engine? Using this product on an engine in this condition, is about as useful as spraying fly spray on a pile of fresh cow shit.
Why didn't you just clean the EGR valve by hand, if it is so easy to remove? On my Volvo V50, the EGR was much more difficult to remove, but i'm glad I did. I got almost 0.75kg of carbon deposits out of it, and now, I just use fuel additives every other tank full to keep it clean.
would that get into the EGR ports as well? I don't understand how this would get to the EGR valve.. I thought the intake just goes into the fuel mixture directly before its burned, and the exaust gas enters this system through an entirely separate system.
Take it off get caustic soda boiling water dip the valve in the water watch the crap clean off and come out brand new job done only costs £2 ask any garage if your not sure
+Chris E I personally use Wynn’s Diesel EGR 3 for years. I can confirm that these product do work, I have verified that with an flexible telescopic camera. It cleans the internals until some degree. If the goal is to get shiny internals all of a sudden than this is indeed not the solution. Wynn’s Diesel EGR 3 is a great product as a preventive solution. Some may expect wonders from such a small and cheap bottle, those products do not exist... ;)
Can this be done on a non Diesel engine? My pontiac is reading P0401 and I have cleaned it twice. Hasn't seemed to help. I was thinking this would be a better option.
@@kingolf5270 if it's hidden under alot of stuff or very tight you may wanna take them off first to make space, it's worth it because you can clean very very well and make sure it's all cleaned up before you put it back.
Well I'd like to see anyone try this on a modern diesel engine. Bloody thing will rev its nuts off putting a cleaner in the intake when its running. Putting a squirt of brake cleaner to start anything is scary enough. Well if it works for people. But does it clean the EGR cooler and DPF and catalytic converter and exhaust system as well at the same time. Because if it doesn't no point on just doing 1 thing. And all the shit you clean off ends up in the exhaust system anyway so i cant see the point of it myself.
I plugged in ny diagnosis tool because the engine light was on, and it says the problem with was insufficient flow in the egr, i removed it to clean it and erased the code the light went off like it should but came back on any ideas what i could do, its a vw golf mk4 i drive.
Simple water injection works far better than this ,fastly reduces intake temps increases mileage and you dont have to spend your weekend flogging the bollox off your motor... Good vid dont waste good money on snake oil kids....
I'll be pulling mine apart and cleaning the parts in a parts washer. I'd rather the carbon and crap was in the bottom of that than having passed through my cylinders.
i have recently purchased a VW polo 1.2 Tdi, used car driven 44000KMS approximately, i took a test drive before purchasing the car was going very had ie less pickup & noisy as well, assumed maybe servicing is required, took it go the VW workshop & checking the service record purchased the car immediately within 5 KMS the car emitting white smoke & taking jerks the car had to be toed to eorkshop they say it is Egr cooler need to replace, my query is can it go immediately or is it a preexisting problem, wants to return the car pls advise
Well, it kinda work, if you can access the EGR valve for removal, then better remove it and clean it or simply replace it. On some cars the access to the EGR valve is quite complicate, so i can see myself using it.
There are some that are making negative comments .The purpose of this was to show how the proses works without having to take the EGR valve out, and was taken out as an observation.I have a vehicle that requires the engine to be taken out to change the EGR valve so for me this video proved invaluable thanks for posting
yes by al lmeans do it with just going through the pipe or through the opening but get a much better product, this in the video was next to useless...
Than ur motor is scrap
@@Syxsss Then*
What negative comments?
I tried using Wynn's EGR cleaner. The add to fuel type and forget about. Next week I took my EGR off the car took it in my kitchen to clean properly using "elbow grease" from pound world (I've used every degreaser on the planet and this is the best). Anyway the EGR was a solid lump of sticky carbon inside. No way could the valve open or close.. Soaked it in elbow grease for half hour. Boiled kettle and poured it over. Result nice and clean. Valve moves nice and freely now..I've blanked the EGR now. 20% better fuel efficiency..the brim it drive for 400 miles and brim it again test..4 times I've done that now..amazed at the results. Engines like clean cool air not dirty warm air. .
I was contemplating these products but decided to have a go at cleaning the EGR on my 100K 2.0d X-Type myself. I sort of thought that if I struggled getting it off I could tighten everything back up and use the spray anyway. With some excellent, easy to find help on some of the Jag forums I found the valve much easier to remove than I expected using just a 1/4" ratchet with long & short extensions and 8/10mm sockets. The condition of the valve convinced me that manual cleaning (half an hour with a couple of litres of paraffin, some non-metallic scourers and a pound store washing up brush) was the only way to go. There is no solvent I know (certainly none that I'm prepared to unleash indiscriminately) which could have shifted the gunge and tar. Even if it did I cannot conceive of it passing harmlessly through the engine, turbo, cat and exhaust. The opening to the inlet manifold was also similarly treated. Total time two hours. Would have been less if I'd remembered to refit the bl@@dy EGR inlet gasket. In fact the job was so easy (plenty of PVC gloves needed though) that I decided against tinkering with the EGR system. I'll just repeat the process as and when necessary. Can't be bothered with engine management warnings and the like.
I may consider using a spray to maintain the condition of the valve but I doubt it. They may have their place but I really would not feel comfortable relying on something which just moves the muck further along the system.
Incidentally the cleanup completely cured my rough idle. Improved bottom end torque and made the driving experience much more pleasurable. No more Hail Marys prior to entering a busy roundabout with a full load.
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Does your car live on one of the islands that does not have either an MOT test station or a fixed link to one that does ? Because if it does not a lit engine warning light is a problem. But you may have found that out by now.
😅hail Mary’s before round abouts 😂
My own car is a 16 year old Mercedes with a mileage of 170000 miles. I had been having a similar problem with no power so decided to buy a similar kit her in the Shetland Islands in the UK. Even though I used only half a can of aerosol I have had no more problems, back on full power once again. Many thanks for uploading this video.
A great, helpful video. You can certainly see the difference. I will try this twice before stripping down and cleaning the EGR valves…. Thanks for the video.
Well, that proves manual cleaning is the best way to clean the EGR valve.
Agreed
But it helps to the normal person without opening that because when egr valve stuck and become hard at that time its helpful .. mechanic knows very well where and how it is beneficial without other efforts
Many of you people are so deft. This guy went to a lot of trouble to show what happens when you use the products. Duh, that is why he did not clean it when it was off.. Make your own choices and keep your whining to yourself.
Thanks that really helps but I not to put redex in before hand thankyou so much
What do you mean by deft😂
I cleaned mine with brush a carburetor cleaner, and now the engine really smooth . . Ten times cleaner than that valve . .
He removed the EGR to demonstrate the effectiveness of this product (if you can remove it then obviously soak it and scrub it clean). My EGR is a big job to get to it, some are very easily accessible. I used this method and cleared EGR fault. Cost me £20 and worked. Fixed for ever? No, but might see me through until I scrap my van. If you’re driving a motor with a lot of life left, do it properly, this will buy you a bit of time before it clogs up again, that’s it.
The results are not satisfied. Manual cleaning is best way to do it.
Gogu Last agree
And since it's already removed, why not just clean it? That would be a lot quicker, and cheaper
I agree...Nothing better than a good old wire brush..
@@spthompson6501 to test the product
You know nothing clearly. This is to also clean the INTAKE PASSAGES so you don’t have to disassemble the intake as well. It’s not just to clean the valve.
چقدر خوب بود کاری که استاد در حال انجام دادن است را مجهز به توضیحات به زبان فارسی می بود ( با تشگر ) 🌹
I think most people in the comment section has missed the point of this video. It's a demonstration for how to use the cleaning kit, and a look at how effective it is..
agree
Tell me about it. I have no idea why most people in the comment section are so oblivious to this.
Of course its better to take off the egr and clean it..... but for those people who are unable to do it then this is the next best thing! Also there's no harm in doing this every so often as MAINTENANCE and PREVENTATIVE matter
I see no particular effect. Remove your EGR to clean it properly!
Great illustration. Seems to be a lot easier taking the EGR Valve out and spray it with Carb-cleaner.
People are saying it doesnt work but its plain obvious it removed enough crap to make a difference. not as good as cleaning it yourself but it worked nevertheless.
Vauxhall charged me 132 pounds to replace my EGR valve some years back in my Corsa.1.4,two years later management light came on again,Vauxhall said it needed a new EGR valve again!!,I sprayed a tin of valve cleaner in the air filter box,management light went out,and it ran perfect next three years!!!
blade0954 You're lucky. I took mine to Vauxhall Zafira initially and they told me the whole engine needed replacing. After telling them what I thought of that idea I later found out it was just the egr valve.
Sure it isn't as efficient as a wall nut cleaning but...probably the best review of the product.
Quick review, efficient and well explained.
I still believe Revive can be better, but I can't find any about it...
Anyone ??
And, thank you for the review mate ;)
Just take the egr valve out then spray it with throttle body cleaner. Reassemble. No Reving needed no additive needed. Also use 50mls per tank of 2 stroke oil Low ash. You'll be amazed at the difference.
What does the oild do please?
@@jotk5978 add the oil to the fuel to lubricate the rings and piston and it reduces carbon sticking to the intake valves.
you already had the egr removed why don`t you just clean it with a brush and throttle body spray ? it would be cheaper and the egr will be much cleaner than that spray crap , just a waste of time and money.
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+Hm HM (Mr.H) i did this bud , it was crap .. a A A chap friend of mine said ///,, just what you have said ,,///// better job clean it your self
It's an obvious observation;the point of the video is a review on the product used to clean the egr. I would never buy an egr cleaner,I'd rather clean it the way you stated though.
+Hm HM (Mr.H) The removal of the EGR valve was done simply to show before and after. This is for those who have EGR valves located in horribly impractical places, where taking it off is too hard without removing a large amount of the contents in the engine room.
MIND TAKE IT OUT CLEAN JOB DONE
introducing all that "cleaner" into the engine will do damage by wiping the bearing surfaces. The part can be bought fairly
cheaply. If you are going to the trouble of removing it either replace it or at least clean it manually.
Worked a treat. At one moment a great cloud of black soot came out of the exhaust. Jammed open egr valve code was cleared and hasn't returned. Thanks.
Why not to take it apart deep it in petrol and wash it with brush?
not all egr is easy to get at
@@patrick9761 they are all easy to take of and clean just revving engine will clean it to a certain degree
@@jameslatimer1432 Some engines have a long pipe that goes inside the manifold. How do you clean that by reeving up the engine?
I tell you, I just cleaned the EGR about 4 months ago by taking the EGR apart and cleaning up but I didn't cleaned the pipe so now I have the check engine light on again.
@@jameslatimer1432 It is a nightmare on some Antaras and Captivas
To test the product... Daft
It would have been the same if you had just farted 10 times into the air intake.
to avoid destroying ur air flow sensor , and having no engin check light on juste run a little hose inside your air flow sensor to sray behind the sensor and still have the air flow getting into it
This can be a good idea. Thank you
Bent two piston rods with a similar spray. Manual clean is the only safe and working method. Don't be lazy, or you'll redo your engine, like me.
Diesel engines have too high compression to manage with this sollutions. The explosions will do some damage, noticeable or not.
I was also thinking of spraying Liqui Moly egr spray , so should I go for it or not ?
@@AS-pu7gj take off the EGR and clean it with spray or water pressure. Don't spray nothing into engine...
@@bookshulitza Nowadays there is a concept ongoing called decarbonisation , can we opt for that , they inject some liquid through a machine through air intake and revv the engine
ua-cam.com/video/bByzIUFt8nA/v-deo.html
Decarbonisation process ua-cam.com/video/p89TiHc8ono/v-deo.html
Here is another video from a very learned mechanic , he says never carbon clean your car engine ua-cam.com/video/BIycEyNci1o/v-deo.html
carb cleaner and a brass brush would be a lot easier and wont piss the neighbors off
Dont know why everyone is butthurt.... hes making a baseline on before and after! and to the dippy that said to clean the EGR with petrol Tut tut clearly never seen what happens to early det lol. these methods are the best. our TDDI 1.8 van 62,000 miles just had a full service due to no service for 20,000 miles! limp mode & leak off tc put in similar stuff right after the service "Nearly empty tank", drove around til 50miles marker than refuled as soon as we refuel and allowed all the soak"engine off time" we gave it a little for 20min and now all faults are gone plus its running sweet again.
Thanks for showing how the product perform, very useful information as my VW golf EGR is not easily accessible.
The EGR it route from the exhaust manifold, how is work when those spray mist burned before it exit to the exhaust and partially, minimal, recycle back (burned product) to the EGR ?
@@metzmatu8409 I don't use the product shown in the video because I can't find it in Australia. I use the technique shown. After watching other videos, the product I use are Oven Cleaner and Water. Same technique as in the video shown, warm the engine then squirt oven cleaner at a rate of a second a squirt until spray can is empty. Turn off engine for an hour to let oven cleaner do it's job. Turn engine on until to operating temperature, squirt water in slowly about 500mL was enough for my car.
The water mist works as water get in there it will generate steam and the steam action clean out the carbon build up.
I did that procedure twice although it was 2 months apart. Now, after 5 months, my VW Golf 2005 is revving nicely and no longer in "limp" mode.
All of the crap is now in the catalytic converter...
he removed the catalytic;-)
Constantino BellaRomano an even worse idea at any rate. A/F ratios depend on the post cat data in junction with either a mass air flow or MAP sensor data. It will not make accurate adjustments if you remove the cat.
in that case best time to do all that is if catalytic is old and needs replace.
Constantino BellaRomano hah yep. Just to make you really wish you took that damn egr valve off to clean it to begin with! lol
Mr S
Thanks for taking the time to make that video.
OK, You have shown us not to bother with it. Thank You. Worse case I would clean them is a can of Petrol if I had nothing else. Or looked on here to see how to clean them properly
So the EGR is clogged with carbon and these spray cleaners are meant to wash the carbon deposits away which will end up in the Cat and likely damaging it.
I need to clean out the EGR on a VW CFWA engine but will be removing it to clean it out. Restricted gas flow because the EGR is clogged has lit the Engine Management on the dash.
So it's cheaper, faster and better to clean it manually. Thanks for the video.
We all know the best way is to remove it and do it manually, and we really want to remove it but some cars it's not easy to remove the EGR, especially if you are trying to avoid costs by taking it to a dealer. I want to clean for a Range Rover Sport and I wish I could remove it. But I can't, so I'm going the spray route.
Truth of the matter is even If your egr valve is "dirty" but functioning most likely, except for the sake of regular maintenance no need to Clean it. Case in point, i have a 1987 nissan truck with over 200,000 miles on it and since i have owned it for the last 12 years (and since i have owned it the egr valve has never been replaced) it has always pass egr/pcv smog check. Up to this point.
И нахрена так извращаться, если клапан EGR можно почистить вручную? Просто отвёрткой и тряпочкой счистить нагар, потом залить любой жидкостью для очистки карбюратора на несколько минут. В это время трубку от клапана прочистить стальным тросиком, залить на несколько минут жидкость, а потом в трубку просунуть обычную верёвку. На верёвке завязать несколько узелков и подёргать верёвку туда-сюда, чтобы узелки прочистили стенки трубки.
Это надёжнее, чем покупать разные дорогие жидкости.
I do 10% regular petrol in diesel tank. 6 liter regular benzin 46 liter diesel.= total 52 feul . I do it when i go for long drive . I do it at least ones a year. It works ! And is cheap.
great video.
in cars without maf sensor there are a map sensor to measure the air volume by measuring the air absolute pressure that get in the intake manifold to the engine .
thanks .
Thanks for your video. Using what type of engine ?
did a 2.0 Astra pipe totally blocked and valve not seating the car would not rev passed 3000 rpm, stripped out the valve and pipe, one bottle of white spirit sorted the valve cleaned the pipe out and 150 bhp was resumed! cost £1 (for the sprit) about 45minues of time job done, the garage wanted £700!!!!!
Anyone know where the carbon gone
1, it goes to your piston and make a problem and if you get lucky your piston throw it on exhaust valve's and if you get more lucky then it will clog your dpf ,so don't be lazy and take it out and clean it with love .lol
as indicated by everyone else: Cleaning that way just wasted lots of time and money. Remove the valve and perform manual cleaning. Replace valve if not longer working
Personally brother I would use bottled water and spray into the air intake and it would cost nothing and do a much better job
Put a water injection system on any vehicle this is done to and it will stay clean.
Some modern cars have more than one egr valve and they take many hours to remove so this could save a huge amount of money.
Интересно, а куда пошла вся сажа и шлам???
Didn't look a lot of difference to me, better to take it off and clean it properly don't you think ?
I don't believe that is effettive to clean the EGR valve because the exhaust gases comes from the exhaust pipe side and those are the responsible of the dirty in the EGR and not from air intake!
Great video, does it not only clean the EGR but the turbo also ?
Think about it logically. The aerosol will got through the turbo, but the fuel additive will clean nothing more than the fuel lines & injectors. If it’s solvent based (they mostly are) it’ll get vaporised in the combustion of the engine
I prefer ultrasonic cleaner, you can save your catalitic converter.
Diesel don't have them dummy
@@travelinthru9519 ok, and what the fuck is the minon I have in the middle of the exhaust of my TDI engines??
if you look at egr body "before" and "after " -it's two different egr's :)
Плюс поставил за проведенную работу. Вывод не покупать такую хрень. :-)
Place your valve into a 2L vat of gasoline to disolve the gunk built up in and around the valve. Wait for 30-something minutes. Clean the valve with a plastic tip small brush. Brake fluid to completely finish the job and thoroughly clean your EGR valve.
That product you're using there is mighty useless.
Thank me later.
Nice video, but what would happen if you put the EGR into an ultrasonic bath with heated detergent? Would it yield any better results?
Good question , even I was thinking about that , ultrasonic bath would be the most effective way to Clean i guess
So does all the crap that's removed go in the intake manifold/cylinders?
Why waste money on buying the kit? I remove the EGR by just bu taking out the top mounted intercooler and taking out 4 screws. Takes probably longer time to clean with this kit.
Because like me, i cleaned the EGR but still had problems , because the intake manifold itself was dirty where the EGR valve connects too
Could have just brushed that off and saved yourself money and time.
Also, I'd not recommend this sort of solution as you're artificial increasing the pressures within the engine (revs increasing without acceleration) . I suspect this would have done more damage than good.
But hey its a French car it's always going to be crap 😁
I'm sure he was testing the product to see if it actually works
Not as good as if u cleaned urself. A big thank for that public test 😊
That looks like a different valve to me look at 6:37 maybe a Bardahl advertising ploy?
Nhaa think the left one looks more bright because the sun is out. And on the right he is in the shade.
Bruno Bruno I thought the same thing. One seemed to have a bit more surface rust then the other in the Before/After pics.
And a hairline crack just beginning...
I sprayed this on my cat! Now hes not talking to me.
Johnny Knoxville How does he smell? Terrible!
+Johnny Knoxville i am from the ,,,,rspca & pdsa not funny sick
+Johnny Knoxville I think you need to go to mental doctor if you talk with cat ;d
I think you need to learn English before you post comment!
Get a sense of humour added you breast feeder!
Looks pretty good. I bet itd look really good if done a time or two between oil changes.
Why is the EGR a different colour when he removes the second time for inspection?
Start of the video you mentioned the vehicle is a Peugeot but when u test drive after cleaning the steering wheel seems like a Renault emblem.. hahahaha
Surely all the carbon that's been cleaned off the valve has now been deposited in the exhaust system and caused partial blockage?
I have a VW TDI CR engine EGR valve to sort out but I'd rather remove it and manaully clean it out. The downside is its a 2011 Polo TDI and going to be damn fiddly job.
Will I improve the performance of the car when I clean the EGR?
Fuck ya are u kidding?
Put egr in clothed position from ecu
The egr puts unburned gasses back in to fire up and by doing this cools down the heat coming out better performance
The EGR it route from the exhaust manifold, how is work when those spray mist burned before it exit to the exhaust and partially, minimal, recycle back (burned product) to the EGR ?
What was da point of that its still dirty as hell
Seems more complex than taking it out and cleaning manually
Take it to pieces and clean with Mr Mussle oven cleaner, it works wonders !
Certified 44 yrs here. No engine (as far as a passenger vehicle) should ever be reved past 1800 rpm. Even the 2500 rpm used for state inspections is too high. I would spend 100 dollars on parts for my vehicles before I would rev them that high. The german concept of engineering is to use gearing to make even a 4cyl engine never run at highway speed above 1500 rpm. Here in the US this concept was used from the late 60s through the 70s on American full sized vehicles and overdrive was used in the 80s because the engineering concept is to never go above 1500 rpm. The common motorist is not a race car driver
Earl Guyton Then why do car manufacturers make production engines with redlines as high as 7k-8k RPMS? And then you have sport bike engines that do 2x that.
Earl Guyton what in the hell are you talking about even automatic transmissions shift after 1800rpm. what are you going to do mod your ECU so that your transmission doesn't ever go past 1800 rpm? That makes no sense at all. It would be terribly boring to drive if everybody shifted so quickly and there would be almost no useable power unless you had a high torque motor which most dont. It would take forever to get up to speed. I have no idea why you would say this. Do you seriously shift before 2000 rpm every single time?
Earl Guyton So why does the turbo on my diesel not even kick in until around 1800RPM, you're talking out of your ass. It's not economical to be persistantly driving high up the rev range, but there is no issues driving at 2-3k rpm regularly.
Redlining might fuck your engine up after a while but theres no damage caused by revving to 7k before changing up
+Earl Guyton On a healthy and properly maintained modern engine high reving of a warm engine won't cause any wear. Most wear in engines are from cold miles, cold oil lubricates much, much worse. So drive gently until the engine is warm.
I have seen a lot of Ferrari's on the dyno (old (cheaper) Ferrari's that get prepared to become a enthousiast track car) and the best ones are the ones that always were driven fast...
Stop talking BS. Running engines that low in the rev range is a great way of building up carbon and have your trim come apart due to engine vibration. there is no way you can drive at highway speeds in that range. most diesels have their optimum operating point between 2.5 and 3k rpm
Next do a video on how to clean the engine bay!!! I had some build up like that before.
Do Diesel Egr valves get gummed up more than gasoline? I have a gasoline northstar cadillac that needs an egr cleaning every few years, my 2002 gasoline chevy venture with 140,000 never had anything cleaned, and runs great. My 2014 chevy cruse diesel is unknown with 30,000 miles
yes it does
Seems like you should have left it off the engine the first time you removed it and just soaked it in the chemical provided and rinsed with the aerosol.
great vid/want to try this on a 307 hdi 110/but will it not fill the dpf with crap causing more headache/ps would a clogged egr cause hesitation to accelerate and lack of turbo.cheers for any help.
I just got a used 2000 Honda Odyssey it has 231,663 miles on it and EGR Light came on can it be cleaned or do I need a new one.Thank you for Your help
They are expensive!!!! Just clean it using his chemicals.
I got a new EGR Valve at that much,but check engine light keeps coming on AutoZone said something about a code,I have old one yet!
will it clean the turbo too? or is there a similar product for turbos
If fitted a starting motor to my peugeot 407 hdi 2.0 after doing this the car sound like it has no turbo now and runs very under powered. I thought it may be the air mass meter so I purchased a secondhand one, this didn't sort out the problem. Any advice.
Ok, I'm starting to believe that this engine had 'plenty' of other issues, besides just a clogged EGR valve. Did anyone else notice the fresh oil leaks all over the top side of this engine? Using this product on an engine in this condition, is about as useful as spraying fly spray on a pile of fresh cow shit.
لطفا کنید توضیحات راجب اینکه این استاد مکانیگ مشغول انجام چه کاری میباشد را به زبان فارسی پخش بفرمائین ( با احترام و تشگر )
Why didn't you just clean the EGR valve by hand, if it is so easy to remove?
On my Volvo V50, the EGR was much more difficult to remove, but i'm glad I did. I got almost 0.75kg of carbon deposits out of it, and now, I just use fuel additives every other tank full to keep it clean.
would that get into the EGR ports as well? I don't understand how this would get to the EGR valve.. I thought the intake just goes into the fuel mixture directly before its burned, and the exaust gas enters this system through an entirely separate system.
Take it off get caustic soda boiling water dip the valve in the water watch the crap clean off and come out brand new job done only costs £2 ask any garage if your not sure
Can I use the same product to clean my dirty Sox?
I blanked my egr off. No more cleaning .
Engine picks up a lot faster and smoother
The inlet manifold can end up just as bad, cleaning that will allow better airflow and performance.
I used EGR3 by Wynn's & I must say what a load of crap that was.
I'm going to remove the inlet manifold & do the job properly now.
+Chris E I personally use Wynn’s Diesel EGR 3 for years. I can confirm that these product do work, I have verified that with an flexible telescopic camera. It cleans the internals until some degree. If the goal is to get shiny internals all of a sudden than this is indeed not the solution.
Wynn’s Diesel EGR 3 is a great product as a preventive solution. Some may expect wonders from such a small and cheap bottle, those products do not exist... ;)
Can this be done on a non Diesel engine? My pontiac is reading P0401 and I have cleaned it twice. Hasn't seemed to help. I was thinking this would be a better option.
on your can take a piece of speedo cable ot some sort or hard wire and shove it down the EGR passage into the intake its plugged up
Just remoove it, best cleaning option :)
true
Some cars it's not easy to remove. I want to clean for a Range Rover Sport and I wish I could remove it. But I can't, so il have to go with spray.
@@kingolf5270 if it's hidden under alot of stuff or very tight you may wanna take them off first to make space, it's worth it because you can clean very very well and make sure it's all cleaned up before you put it back.
Is that a lose hose clamp in between his hand and the oil cap @ 3:41 maybe that's the problem
Well I'd like to see anyone try this on a modern diesel engine.
Bloody thing will rev its nuts off putting a cleaner in the intake when its running.
Putting a squirt of brake cleaner to start anything is scary enough.
Well if it works for people.
But does it clean the EGR cooler and DPF and catalytic converter and exhaust system as well at the same time.
Because if it doesn't no point on just doing 1 thing.
And all the shit you clean off ends up in the exhaust system anyway so i cant see the point of it myself.
I plugged in ny diagnosis tool because the engine light was on, and it says the problem with was insufficient flow in the egr, i removed it to clean it and erased the code the light went off like it should but came back on any ideas what i could do, its a vw golf mk4 i drive.
Its also a petrol car
Simple water injection works far better than this ,fastly reduces intake temps increases mileage and you dont have to spend your weekend flogging the bollox off your motor...
Good vid dont waste good money on snake oil kids....
I'll be pulling mine apart and cleaning the parts in a parts washer. I'd rather the carbon and crap was in the bottom of that than having passed through my cylinders.
I wish egr was accessible on ford galaxy. I have to remove turbo (at back of engine) first. Huge job!
Woo. How much did that cost you ?
@@arktunes6202 Mechanic said may as well sell the car
I've used a spray cleaner on my EGR without dismantling and now have engine 'clatter' . Need to now clean injectors or replace them!
+sircraigery run it on the highway and try higher rpm it works
Thanks . I had the notion that might blow out a few cob webs
Great video! Wonderful effort, thank you.
I thought the EGR was exhaust but it appears you are cleaning the inlet throttle body?
Skoda rapid 1.6 MPI AT ME CNG SUCCESS HAI KYA NAHI ?
i have recently purchased a VW polo 1.2 Tdi, used car driven 44000KMS approximately, i took a test drive before purchasing the car was going very had ie less pickup & noisy as well, assumed maybe servicing is required, took it go the VW workshop & checking the service record purchased the car immediately within 5 KMS the car emitting white smoke & taking jerks the car had to be toed to eorkshop they say it is Egr cooler need to replace,
my query is can it go immediately or is it a preexisting problem,
wants to return the car
pls advise
Well, it kinda work, if you can access the EGR valve for removal, then better remove it and clean it or simply replace it.
On some cars the access to the EGR valve is quite complicate, so i can see myself using it.