Yeah the “balance” is kinda weird. There’s more Pokémon that can utilize sunny day over electric terrain and there’s 2 Pokémon with drought and 2 legendaries with drought that can utilize it well. Plus it’s not that bad to go for a sunny day on a different Pokémon if needed. For electric terrain, there’s really only one Pokémon being Pinch. That’s probably why they made booster energy to proc the abilities for the Violet mons over the Scarlet ones
And take Rising Voltage away from Pincurchin even though it wasn't ever good. Meanwhile the historically excellent Torkoal gets to click its big stupid button all it wants...
I feel obligated to say that: Psyblade gets boosted by Sharpness, and since only one Pokemon gets access to the move, and said Pokemon can never have its ability changed, it's kinda pointless.
I mean it’s a slicing move because it’s a blade so it’s just common sense to boost it with sharpness. The entire swords of justice group including the future paradoxes really should all have sharpness though. Especially Keldeo since bro is not benefitting from justified
This video is like that spongebob meme where squidward show spongebob to people and they get excited. We didn't came to see iron leaves under terrain we came to see iron bundle under terrain
It’s weird that Iron Leaves has a signature move that is the shared type of its trio. Of both Paradox trios it’s the only one with that. In other words it should’ve gotten a grass type move that gets boosted on electric terrain.
If it got a reskinned leaf blade but it was higher base power and boosted by eletric terrain it would be have been really thematic. Name it something like "biotic blade".
I unironically rewatched this video while eating because I actually had no memory of watching it until the end. Which means that's how little of an impression Iron Leaves.
So glad I destroyed my mental health in Iron Leaves tera raids to learn that PINCURCHIN is just better...absolutely love that... Also, caught your Regigigas/Weezing stream, will we be getting a full vid on that? If so, when?
My theory is iron leaves is actually a a Chinese sweat factor product because they got nothing on no one. There original form is better because at least it has ACTUALLY strong stab moves. Like close combat and sacred sword. Drunk oak was the best buff iron leaves got lol
Me when the gimmick set with a gimmick setup requiring a gimmick mon doesnt work *suprised pikachu* (No offense but kind of a harsh judgement on a mon when using it on a pretty.... unconventional team)
why not use unovan samurott agaisnt rapidstrike urshifu?? Samurott's hidden ability Shell armor protects him from the crit extra damage effect, Due to his pure water typing, it resists surging strikes in half and it has a reasonable physical defense bulk (95 ho and 85 Def) Samurott can also make take advantage of rain set upf by now prominently used support Tornadus as well and hit back with air slash or aerial ace for suppereffective damage to Urshifu
Sad its not good at competitive. At least its pretty decent at raids where walking wake isnt particularly good at, i was surprised that it didn't have any sort of boosting moves for spatk, similar to iron moth. That one has at least fiery dance, but its luck based then.
I don't even care if Iron Leaves ain't good competitively, I still like it, always liked Virizion too, hell, I just like both of 'em, competitive viability be damned
You know it's bad when the Pinchurchin contributes more to the game than the Pokemon the videos based on. I still stand by the belief that all they'd need to do is change Psyblade to be Grass, at least then it'd be extemely niche as opposed to utterly useless. STILL utter codswallop that all the other Legendary Paradoxes got signature moves matching their unique type while this thing alone didn't. I guess at this point they've completely given up on both game balance and logic. Also just saying it's nice to see some Urshifu Single Strike, despite being Urshifu I find it underused, in comparison to the other one.
A sheer force DD user certainly could do something if you can manage to get a turn of set up I think. But unfortunately in terms of viability out of the gate it's really limited compared to the other 2 imo
Huh kinda expecting it would be ether sandy shocks iron thorns brute bonnet iron jugulis to be in the video but iron leaves? I did not know iron leaves was going to be one of the underated paradox pokemons
at least, out of these, jugulis won a regional lol but yeah, he probably hates leaves because he used a bad set and it couldn't deal damage with a speed boost on leaves he could have used thundurus prankster+manual electric terrain + life orb on leaves and probably have better results instead of using that trash can called pinchurchin with sucker punch to self trigger a weakness policy etc....
Just made a team and can confirm this thing works much better as a support mon. Coaching, helping hand, taunt, leaf blade. Put it on a team with kommo-o, rillaboom, banded H-Arcanine, bundle, flutter. Coaching works very nicely with kommo-o, rillaboom, and arcanine because it makes them tanks that hit like trucks. Helping Hand is nice for fluttermane, taunt shuts amoonguss down. Kommo-o is honestly the star on the team though Tera steel and clangorous soul is very good against this meta, just need a good lando counter, which bundle does great. Went something like 7-1 on low ladder. Definitely a good bo1 team no idea about bo3 but I don't do tournaments anyway just here for fun.
@@somebodyuknow2507 nah not really, it's just never getting the KOs you need, can't really outspeed important things without help, but I'll say it does have fantastic coverage and support moves..... It can be made to work, just kinda sub par
Very excited to watch iron leaves get outshined by a pincurchin
SO REAL
PINCURCHIN SWEEP BAYBEEE
PINCUSHION STRONK
Iron leaves is my dad and honestly I’m glad he left seeing this
This is the most original so far and im proud
“you can still win using your favourite pokemon” still applies here bc no one’s favourite pokemon is iron leaves
pincurchin is so small on the battlefield bro was NOT built for this
pincurchin is built like a friend, not a foe.
@@VoermanIdiot real
Pincurchin deserves a trip to a chiropractor to fix his back. It must hurt so bad after carrying iron leaves this whole video
Ironically he doesn't have a spine
@@azzix45nah he got plenty of spines
But he does have spines!! @@azzix45
Game Freak: Let's make a group of Pokémon that get powered up in Electric Terrain
Also Game Freak: Let's not put Tapu Koko in the game
I mean there is Miraidon, though he won't be legal for a long while still
Yeah the “balance” is kinda weird. There’s more Pokémon that can utilize sunny day over electric terrain and there’s 2 Pokémon with drought and 2 legendaries with drought that can utilize it well. Plus it’s not that bad to go for a sunny day on a different Pokémon if needed. For electric terrain, there’s really only one Pokémon being Pinch. That’s probably why they made booster energy to proc the abilities for the Violet mons over the Scarlet ones
@@King_Kitsune meanwhile, Past Paradox got Koraidon and Torkoal at the start of the gen and Ninetails with the dlc....
@@jo-ri-oh8950 we need more terrain setter options in general tbh
And take Rising Voltage away from Pincurchin even though it wasn't ever good. Meanwhile the historically excellent Torkoal gets to click its big stupid button all it wants...
No wonder Iron Leaves, i too would leave if i was getting upstaged by Pincurchin
As the worlds number one Lurantis Lunatic I take massive offense in that intro.
I, random viewer number 4344 expect a formal apology by tomorrow
I feel obligated to say that:
Psyblade gets boosted by Sharpness, and since only one Pokemon gets access to the move, and said Pokemon can never have its ability changed, it's kinda pointless.
next gen, gallade is definitely getting psyblade
rest in piss iron leaves
@@timob1681it's will probably become every Pokemon's go to psychic move
I mean it’s a slicing move because it’s a blade so it’s just common sense to boost it with sharpness.
The entire swords of justice group including the future paradoxes really should all have sharpness though. Especially Keldeo since bro is not benefitting from justified
I wish paradox pokemon had hidden abilities, would make them much more variable
"It doesn't matter, we have a pincurchin" is not the kind of sentence I'm used to listen to
This belongs in the hall of fame next to the Wrydeer Showdown live.
Iron Leaves feels like a sad case of "just barely not enough" in every single aspect
The "prank em John" made my day xD
The one time Moxie doesn’t hype up the the main pokemon in the thumbnail
Should’ve been a Pinchurchin vid
New title: PINCURCHIN CARRIES WORST PARADOX and the thumbnail is a really buff pincurchin carrying iron leaves like atlus carries the globe
This video is like that spongebob meme where squidward show spongebob to people and they get excited. We didn't came to see iron leaves under terrain we came to see iron bundle under terrain
Iron leaves more like Iron never was here in the first place
my wife asked me if I cleaned the dishes, and I said Iron Leave. She knew in that moment they were washed ❤
Great Pincurchin video, can't wait for the next one
Pincurchin is small enough to sneak in as a seventh Pokémon onto any team
Video starts at 0:00
Thank you very much
so true
The Fraud of Justice
It’s weird that Iron Leaves has a signature move that is the shared type of its trio. Of both Paradox trios it’s the only one with that. In other words it should’ve gotten a grass type move that gets boosted on electric terrain.
If it got a reskinned leaf blade but it was higher base power and boosted by eletric terrain it would be have been really thematic.
Name it something like "biotic blade".
All this video did was convince me that Pincurchin is underrated lmao
(It's not)
Awaking III Leaves, goated nicknames ngl
The devils palm was pretty clever too
I unironically rewatched this video while eating because I actually had no memory of watching it until the end. Which means that's how little of an impression Iron Leaves.
I thank you for your magical upload schedule as your videos are one of the only things that help me through closing chores at work
So glad I destroyed my mental health in Iron Leaves tera raids to learn that PINCURCHIN is just better...absolutely love that...
Also, caught your Regigigas/Weezing stream, will we be getting a full vid on that? If so, when?
We just need a decent electric surge mon.
Leaf my boy alone he's doing his best
Holy crap I didn't realize Moxie Marcos was a stand user
Tbh I’m not even surprised pincurchin got a ko as easy or easier than leaves
Moxie you are the funniest and best VGC youtuber in my opinion, keep up the good and entertaining work👍
Love the Jojolion references you named your Pokemon with!
I hated the Swords of Justice other than Terrakion (Keldeo gets a pass), so Leaves being trash and Crown being lame checks for me
My theory is iron leaves is actually a a Chinese sweat factor product because they got nothing on no one. There original form is better because at least it has ACTUALLY strong stab moves. Like close combat and sacred sword. Drunk oak was the best buff iron leaves got lol
Me when the gimmick set with a gimmick setup requiring a gimmick mon doesnt work *suprised pikachu*
(No offense but kind of a harsh judgement on a mon when using it on a pretty.... unconventional team)
Thumbnail made me sad 😭
why not use unovan samurott agaisnt rapidstrike urshifu??
Samurott's hidden ability Shell armor protects him from the crit extra damage effect,
Due to his pure water typing, it resists surging strikes in half and it has a reasonable physical defense bulk (95 ho and 85 Def)
Samurott can also make take advantage of rain set upf by now prominently used support Tornadus as well and hit back with air slash or aerial ace for suppereffective damage to Urshifu
I'm 26 minutes into watching and I only now just realised that all of the names of this team are fucking Jojos part 8 references(except devils palm)
Glad you made another video on this beauty because the first one had me dieing laughing haha
Sad its not good at competitive. At least its pretty decent at raids where walking wake isnt particularly good at, i was surprised that it didn't have any sort of boosting moves for spatk, similar to iron moth. That one has at least fiery dance, but its luck based then.
This video made me do the biggest sin of all; think that iron leaves was slept on.
I don't even care if Iron Leaves ain't good competitively, I still like it, always liked Virizion too, hell, I just like both of 'em, competitive viability be damned
Yeahhhhhh I’m just waiting to see psyblade on every psychic type/sword pokemon next gen
I hope Iron Leaves is at least viable now with miraidon as an Ally in regulation g
U got flamed on James Baek's iron leaves video bruh 😂
GG Moxie! Glad to see my Regidrago featured.
awaking III iron leaves
How many KO's did Iron leaves get?
And how many did pincurchin? There you go
Why did the edit at 22:04 make me laugh so hard? 😂
Slither wing vs iron leaves who wins the title of worse paradox
Iron thorns
It's brute bonnet @@Rarest26
@@nightriva1992In VGC? Nah, it still has spore and rage powder. Even if it’s mostly worse Amoonguss, that’s still not that bad.
@@Rarest26oh right were talking about vgc yeah it's definitely not brute bonnet but in singles it's probably the worst paradox even leaves is UU
Pincurchin is the Chad vs virgin Iron Leaves
I'm curious on what you think could be done with Delphox? It getting expanding forve is great for it and it has a pretty good move pool to use
Iron leaves was so bad @MoxieBoosted didn’t even bother uploading the pokepaste
Congrats, you're famous now. You have a recently added famous birthdays page lol
You know it's bad when the Pinchurchin contributes more to the game than the Pokemon the videos based on.
I still stand by the belief that all they'd need to do is change Psyblade to be Grass, at least then it'd be extemely niche as opposed to utterly useless. STILL utter codswallop that all the other Legendary Paradoxes got signature moves matching their unique type while this thing alone didn't. I guess at this point they've completely given up on both game balance and logic.
Also just saying it's nice to see some Urshifu Single Strike, despite being Urshifu I find it underused, in comparison to the other one.
I think he will be more relevant when miraidon release
can we get a second pincurchin dedicated vid!
You focus on the play style of items more than the actual pokemon themselves 😂😂😂
The jojo names go H A R D
Iron leaves goes flaccid tho
You know why they call it Psyblade? Because Iron Leaves is Psybad
(Just like this joke)
the jojo's names are so awesome
Could you use prankster thundorus with elec terrain? Run it with T wave and taunt
Awesome pincurchin showcase 🔥
Sad Iron Leaves isn't that good. I kind of like it myself.
I did a double take seeing all of the mons given JoJo Stand names
Man, I would love to play Pokémon with you
Does anyone think Feraligatr has any kind of niche, or is it thoroughly outclassed by Gyarados and Urshifu, like usual?
A sheer force DD user certainly could do something if you can manage to get a turn of set up I think. But unfortunately in terms of viability out of the gate it's really limited compared to the other 2 imo
Huh kinda expecting it would be ether sandy shocks iron thorns brute bonnet iron jugulis to be in the video but iron leaves? I did not know iron leaves was going to be one of the underated paradox pokemons
No, that would be sandy shocks
at least, out of these, jugulis won a regional lol
but yeah, he probably hates leaves because he used a bad set and it couldn't deal damage with a speed boost on leaves
he could have used thundurus prankster+manual electric terrain + life orb on leaves and probably have better results instead of using that trash can called pinchurchin with sucker punch to self trigger a weakness policy etc....
I saw a mudsdale meganium team yesterday yall would love.
Magearna isn't legal in reg F
@@itztaytay2 lol I meant meganium
Love the part 8 jojo nicknames :]
love the Jojo nicknames lol
Iron leaves?
Where did it go?!
Wait this isnt the iron throns video
I'm somewhat glad I read Jojolion before watching this video.
13:00 what does terra ground do with explosion ? He loses steel type for the resist.
Galvanize makes Explosion electric type so it become immune
@@MoxieBoosted thx I always forget that there are still non mega pokemon with these abilitys.
Incredible thumbnail
Omg Jojolion reference
I genuinely feel kinda bad for it.
It's essentially a legendary, and it's just... bad
I actually thought Iron Thorns is the worst one...
BRAAAUUUURRRRR or bro
Thats crazy that isnt Iron Thorns. The truly worst paradox mon
Least thorns has a banger shiny
@@King_Kitsuneleaves has too and it fits insanely well with iron valiant. Imagine a fusion between the two
Mr. Moxie can we get a paste pretty please I wanna use the team on showdown
Why not the support option (?
Why are the tapus not in s/v
Hmmmm. Rillaboom better teammate. 30% boosted leaf blades. Booster speed + bulk. Run coaching, helping hand(?), leaf blade, taunt. With a good offensive rillaboom (miracle seed?) Dangerous pairing I think might have to tera leaves alot though. Maybe I'm cooking though.
Terrains give 30% boost since gen 8, not 50%. Why? Tapus being broken.
@@Rarest26you right.
Just made a team and can confirm this thing works much better as a support mon. Coaching, helping hand, taunt, leaf blade. Put it on a team with kommo-o, rillaboom, banded H-Arcanine, bundle, flutter. Coaching works very nicely with kommo-o, rillaboom, and arcanine because it makes them tanks that hit like trucks. Helping Hand is nice for fluttermane, taunt shuts amoonguss down. Kommo-o is honestly the star on the team though Tera steel and clangorous soul is very good against this meta, just need a good lando counter, which bundle does great. Went something like 7-1 on low ladder. Definitely a good bo1 team no idea about bo3 but I don't do tournaments anyway just here for fun.
PINCURCHIN Vid when?
Bizarre team
jojo nicks are crazy
Such a shame, Virizion is my favourite of the original group 😔
It's still way better than Virizion
Yoooo w jojo references
IRON LEAVES RAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Pincurchin is by far the worst paradox pokemon
Use bastiodon 🙏
i love all the jojo part 8 nicknames for the pokemon!!!
gaming?
Your team makes want crave some Rokakaka.
I personally think he's one of the best with muscle band and electric terrain but noone else likes iron leaves 🙀
Title: we used the worst paradox Pokemon (feat iron leaves)
Iron valiant: *am i a joke to you?*
Ival is excellent it’s just completely outclassed by flutter mane
@@somebodyuknow2507 nah not really, it's just never getting the KOs you need, can't really outspeed important things without help, but I'll say it does have fantastic coverage and support moves..... It can be made to work, just kinda sub par
Bro forgot that iron threads exist
Slither wing:.......
iron valiant TEARS up singles
Ngl Im supprised the Iron Leaves isn’t named Verizon